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Author Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion  (Read 26403157 times)
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May 06, 2013, 09:47:16 PM
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Everybody is hoping for cheap coins but this is very bad for Bitcoin with the price moving like this. We'll see if the people in China that downloaded the client are willing to buy in a declining market.

Exactly. I don't get it how they act like it's a party when the price drops. It's bad.
You can buy a few coins 20 bucks cheaper. Really, that's worth potentially killing the coin?
Don't you think you'll make more if we actually let this coin grow to 300 dollars and then slowly sell them if you're so desperate for money.
There is nothing good about seeing it crash over and over again. Really nothing.


Agreed, the wild  fluctuations gives btc less credibility to the masses. And continued volatility can only end up going down, never up.
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May 06, 2013, 09:47:29 PM
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Everybody is hoping for cheap coins but this is very bad for Bitcoin with the price moving like this. We'll see if the people in China that downloaded the client are willing to buy in a declining market.

Exactly. I don't get it how keep act like it's a party when the price drops. It's bad.
You can buy a few coins 20 bucks cheaper. Really, that's worth potentially killing the coin?
Don't you think you'll make more if we actually let this coin grow to 300 dollars and then slowly sell them if you're so desperate for money.
There is nothing good about seeing it crash over and over again. Really nothing.


Unfortunately the majority of the people in Bitcoin don't care about Bitcoin. They just want to make quick money. Preferably by sitting on the ass, holding coins and wait for others to make developments so they can become more valuable.

Bitcoin isn't volatile because of speculators, it's volatile because there isn't enough financial instruments built to stabilize it AND because the market cap is still very, very, VERY small.

People buying bitcoins are also giving the capital required to build more infrastructure for it.

And personally, I accept bitcoins in my business since 2012. What are you doing for Bitcoin?

Thanks.

People complaining about the effects of speculation on, wait for it, the speculation forum. Seriously.
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May 06, 2013, 09:50:09 PM
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Everybody is hoping for cheap coins but this is very bad for Bitcoin with the price moving like this. We'll see if the people in China that downloaded the client are willing to buy in a declining market.

Exactly. I don't get it how keep act like it's a party when the price drops. It's bad.
You can buy a few coins 20 bucks cheaper. Really, that's worth potentially killing the coin?
Don't you think you'll make more if we actually let this coin grow to 300 dollars and then slowly sell them if you're so desperate for money.
There is nothing good about seeing it crash over and over again. Really nothing.


Unfortunately the majority of the people in Bitcoin don't care about Bitcoin. They just want to make quick money. Preferably by sitting on the ass, holding coins and wait for others to make developments so they can become more valuable.

Bitcoin isn't volatile because of speculators, it's volatile because there isn't enough financial instruments built to stabilize it AND because the market cap is still very, very, VERY small.

People buying bitcoins are also giving the capital required to build more infrastructure for it.

And personally, I accept bitcoins in my business since 2012. What are you doing for Bitcoin?

Haha why so personal? I too do business with BTC, that's how i learned about it in the first place. And i also speculate but what i was saying is that it's not a good thing for Bitcoin to behave like this when the whole world is watching.
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May 06, 2013, 09:50:43 PM
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Interesting choice... dumping just before the end of the longest bank holiday of the year.

For the Orient to buy cheap coins for breakfast?

It'll take new players longer to get set up (2 weeks to over a month).  But existing players may be inspired to prepare by buying capacity to move into BTCChina.  More importantly, even if net money flow is moving out of bitcoin, that's NET.  If there's one day the money flow will temporarily reverse, tomorrow is that day.  The only issue is we've sort of already rallied (from 80) up to where we should be tomorrow...

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May 06, 2013, 09:50:51 PM
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Looks like 106 withstood a second assault. Can we push through? (yes)
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May 06, 2013, 09:55:04 PM
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Everybody is hoping for cheap coins but this is very bad for Bitcoin with the price moving like this. We'll see if the people in China that downloaded the client are willing to buy in a declining market.

Exactly. I don't get it how keep act like it's a party when the price drops. It's bad.
You can buy a few coins 20 bucks cheaper. Really, that's worth potentially killing the coin?
Don't you think you'll make more if we actually let this coin grow to 300 dollars and then slowly sell them if you're so desperate for money.
There is nothing good about seeing it crash over and over again. Really nothing.


Unfortunately the majority of the people in Bitcoin don't care about Bitcoin. They just want to make quick money. Preferably by sitting on the ass, holding coins and wait for others to make developments so they can become more valuable.

Bitcoin isn't volatile because of speculators, it's volatile because there isn't enough financial instruments built to stabilize it AND because the market cap is still very, very, VERY small.

People buying bitcoins are also giving the capital required to build more infrastructure for it.

And personally, I accept bitcoins in my business since 2012. What are you doing for Bitcoin?

Thanks.

People complaining about the effects of speculation on, wait for it, the speculation forum. Seriously.

Why are you being a smartass? I speculate too otherwise i wouldn't be here on this subforum. My speculation was that it's bad for Bitcoin to behave like this when the whole world is watching and it might scare investors away. For my other reply: I made an explanation to the guy quoting me. And for your knowledge, speculators help stabilize the price by buying at bottoms and selling at tops.
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May 06, 2013, 09:58:24 PM
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cmon guys take it to the PMs.
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May 06, 2013, 09:58:59 PM
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We will visit sub $100 soon enough Wink
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May 06, 2013, 10:00:04 PM
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China to the rescue!
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May 06, 2013, 10:01:33 PM
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I don't see this stabilizing soon, day traders should be having a field day today. Tongue
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May 06, 2013, 10:01:54 PM
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China to the rescue!

How does that saying go about ... something about bulls and china shops ... doesn't end well  Tongue
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May 06, 2013, 10:02:51 PM
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We will visit sub $100 soon enough Wink

Rampion sold  Grin
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May 06, 2013, 10:03:34 PM
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Given this stop at $106, could be a triangle developing centered on $108 ?
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May 06, 2013, 10:04:04 PM
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Everybody is hoping for cheap coins but this is very bad for Bitcoin with the price moving like this. We'll see if the people in China that downloaded the client are willing to buy in a declining market.

Exactly. I don't get it how keep act like it's a party when the price drops. It's bad.
You can buy a few coins 20 bucks cheaper. Really, that's worth potentially killing the coin?
Don't you think you'll make more if we actually let this coin grow to 300 dollars and then slowly sell them if you're so desperate for money.
There is nothing good about seeing it crash over and over again. Really nothing.


Unfortunately the majority of the people in Bitcoin don't care about Bitcoin. They just want to make quick money. Preferably by sitting on the ass, holding coins and wait for others to make developments so they can become more valuable.

Bitcoin isn't volatile because of speculators, it's volatile because there isn't enough financial instruments built to stabilize it AND because the market cap is still very, very, VERY small.

People buying bitcoins are also giving the capital required to build more infrastructure for it.

And personally, I accept bitcoins in my business since 2012. What are you doing for Bitcoin?

Thanks.

People complaining about the effects of speculation on, wait for it, the speculation forum. Seriously.

Why are you being a smartass? I speculate too otherwise i wouldn't be here on this subforum. My speculation was that it's bad for Bitcoin to behave like this when the whole world is watching and it might scare investors away. For my other reply: I made an explanation to the guy quoting me. And for your knowledge, speculators help stabilize the price by buying at bottoms and selling at tops.

Alright. I see you're being serious, and not trying to troll, so I'm getting out of smartass mode as well:

what you describe ("speculators help stabilize the price by buying at bottoms and selling at tops.") is not speculation, at least not in any established sense of the word. You describe something that could perhaps be called semi-altruistic market participation. There can be no such thing in a (so far) tiny market like bitcoin: if we want to make it big, we have to play by the rules of a real market situation. And the only motive for trading in such a market is, well, self interest. (I'm not using the rather dumb "greed is good" meme here because in many cases, greed actually loses you money).

Anyway, my point is pretty simple: you can be enthusiastic about bitcoin and wish for it to be adopted widely in the future and trade out of no other motive than maximizing your own profits. And in that case, riding every wave (up or down) that promises easy money is simply a given.
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May 06, 2013, 10:05:12 PM
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Everybody is hoping for cheap coins but this is very bad for Bitcoin with the price moving like this. We'll see if the people in China that downloaded the client are willing to buy in a declining market.

Exactly. I don't get it how keep act like it's a party when the price drops. It's bad.
You can buy a few coins 20 bucks cheaper. Really, that's worth potentially killing the coin?
Don't you think you'll make more if we actually let this coin grow to 300 dollars and then slowly sell them if you're so desperate for money.
There is nothing good about seeing it crash over and over again. Really nothing.


Unfortunately the majority of the people in Bitcoin don't care about Bitcoin. They just want to make quick money. Preferably by sitting on the ass, holding coins and wait for others to make developments so they can become more valuable.

Bitcoin isn't volatile because of speculators, it's volatile because there isn't enough financial instruments built to stabilize it AND because the market cap is still very, very, VERY small.

People buying bitcoins are also giving the capital required to build more infrastructure for it.

And personally, I accept bitcoins in my business since 2012. What are you doing for Bitcoin?

Thanks.

People complaining about the effects of speculation on, wait for it, the speculation forum. Seriously.

Bitcoin is and it will always be volatile.
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May 06, 2013, 10:06:31 PM
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Given this stop at $106, could be a triangle developing centered on $108 ?

If so I say triangle is bear
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May 06, 2013, 10:07:03 PM
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May 06, 2013, 10:13:15 PM
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 If there's one day the money flow will temporarily reverse, tomorrow is that day.  The only issue is we've sort of already rallied (from 80) up to where we should be tomorrow...

I got my money into Gox today, 4:28 GMT+1, so I would expect the rest of europe to have received there funds.
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May 06, 2013, 10:17:16 PM
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It seems this downward plunge is losing steam rapidly now.
I doubt we will see the 106 wall threatened any time soon - unless someone with plenty of BTC wants to prove me wrong Wink

I expect 110 to be the new level ground for a while. Maybe it's worth buying in now.
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May 06, 2013, 10:19:24 PM
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It seems this downward plunge is losing steam rapidly now.
I doubt we will see the 106 wall threatened any time soon - unless someone with plenty of BTC wants to prove me wrong Wink

I expect 110 to be the new level ground for a while. Maybe it's worth buying in now.

The only thing that's lost steam is this upswing
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