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[Ibian]

I would even go so far to say that for some of the bad actors involved, it's not even about control. If they are secretly being state-sponsored, then it's about bringing down Bitcoin entirely. Or at least dividing it, diluting it, and undermining it so much that it gets completely marginalized in the public eye, forever seen as a chaotic niche geek thing and not seen as the serious financial game changer that it is.

It's almost like their game plan is "Well if we can't centralize control of Bitcoin, then we'll continue to try and undermine it."

Still relevant.

The naysayers switching the narrative from first BitcoinXT, to Bitcoin Classic, then to BU, then to BCH, then to 2X, then from the failed 2X attempt back to BCH is proof positive. They literally could give a shit about the underlying coin and technology platform, hence the constant switching. Because for them it's all about gaining control, and attacking if they don't get what they want.

Agreed. I'm still in a good position but nowhere near being where I want to be. For those with hundreds of coins, I'd say now is the time to sell enough to live the rest of your life with your current (or if wealthy enough, your preferred) lifestyle.

As for me, I'm in the process of dumping my clonecoins. In the unlikely event that they end up taking over then the experiment has failed and this is as good as it gets. In the more likely event that things proceed as usual, I will be buying them back at a quarter the price - and then selling them again at the next unprecedented pump. Milk this thing for all it's worth.

[barota]

128204 unconfirmed transactions . i think bitcoin can fall under 6000 usd  after maximum 12 hours

dump is too large And increases

[EtihadBitcoin]

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc180/G-boy45/RickJames2.gif

 

Looks like Gavin Andersen after his last statement on where he sees bitcoin after bitcoin cash takes it's place coming towards the new fork in two days from now.

https://www.bitsonline.com/gavin-andresen-endorses-bitcoin-cash

Truly scary times after the second in command of Satoshi's army says this.

[bones261]

I think bitcoin will recover after 13th november (BCH hard fork) and the price will go past 7000 again. What do you guys think?

It depends on how many suckas decide to margin short so the whales can squeeze the crap out of them.

[EtihadBitcoin]

I would even go so far to say that for some of the bad actors involved, it's not even about control. If they are secretly being state-sponsored, then it's about bringing down Bitcoin entirely. Or at least dividing it, diluting it, and undermining it so much that it gets completely marginalized in the public eye, forever seen as a chaotic niche geek thing and not seen as the serious financial game changer that it is.

It's almost like their game plan is "Well if we can't centralize control of Bitcoin, then we'll continue to try and undermine it."

Still relevant.

The naysayers switching the narrative from first BitcoinXT, to Bitcoin Classic, then to BU, then to BCH, then to 2X, then from the failed 2X attempt back to BCH is proof positive. They literally could give a shit about the underlying coin and technology platform, hence the constant switching. Because for them it's all about gaining control, and attacking if they don't get what they want.

So says Andresen: https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/929377620000681984
That is his tweet bitsonline's article is referring to is it not?

Source Bitsonline: Gavin Andresen Drops - Bitcoin Cash is the Real BTC.
 

[jackfruit]

Although the the price is still one of the highest range in history, i think these are the darkest times for Bitcoin. As it is mentioned above, it is becoming about power and control rather than supporting the idea of libertarians. I am personally not brave enough to keep any of these Bitcoins. I will wait until the dust settles and we know more about the future and "real" Bitcoin.

[El duderino_]

I say let us Just go 1 way and 1 way only UP  ending This year @10k+ and then a fresh year to make a 15-20k guess

[gentlemand]

I don't know where to look.

Has your mind undergone some oxygen starvation recently?

Not being rude, just curious.

[Rosewater Foundation]

this is a pr disaster. some kids on reddit heard BCH is the real BTC and lost all their cash coins in a Bitcoin address.

[Last of the V8s]

this is a pr disaster. some kids on reddit heard BCH is the real BTC and lost all their cash coins in a Bitcoin address.

but which will be the real fake bitcoin?

@JihanWu
20m20 minutes ago

There is more and more threatening that BCH's hard fork upgrade will have spin-off(s) by some parties. It is said that they will creat "BCH Classic". I think exchanges should be prepared and not losing spin-off coins. Your customers may want to sell it(them) to have more BCH.
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[Rosewater Foundation]

@JihanWu
20m20 minutes ago

There is more and more threatening that BCH's hard fork upgrade will have spin-off(s) by some parties. It is said that they will creat "BCH Classic". I think exchanges should be prepared and not losing spin-off coins. Your customers may want to sell it(them) to have more BCH.
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good. bloody forkers

[bones261]

this is a pr disaster. some kids on reddit heard BCH is the real BTC and lost all their cash coins in a Bitcoin address.

Do any exchanges have a heart? It should be indeed possible for them to recover coins lost that way. I guess it is a big hassle since it compromises private keys. However, exchanges have compromised their private keys in many more ways for years, and the community has had to live with the consequences.  

[itod]

@JihanWu
20m20 minutes ago

There is more and more threatening that BCH's hard fork upgrade will have spin-off(s) by some parties. It is said that they will creat "BCH Classic". I think exchanges should be prepared and not losing spin-off coins. Your customers may want to sell it(them) to have more BCH.
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good. bloody forkers

What's good about it? It's a narrative: You have to have BCH, not BTC if you want more "free money" from forks. I wonder who comes with all these manipulative ideas in BCH camp?

[Rosewater Foundation]

@JihanWu
20m20 minutes ago

There is more and more threatening that BCH's hard fork upgrade will have spin-off(s) by some parties. It is said that they will creat "BCH Classic". I think exchanges should be prepared and not losing spin-off coins. Your customers may want to sell it(them) to have more BCH.
41 replies 32 retweets 71 likes

good. bloody forkers

What's good about it? It's a narrative: You have to have BCH, not BTC if you want more "free money" from forks. I wonder who comes with all these manipulative ideas in BCH camp?

yeah. its worth the comedy tho

[gembitz]

this is a pr disaster. some kids on reddit heard BCH is the real BTC and lost all their cash coins in a Bitcoin address.

but which will be the real fake bitcoin?

@JihanWu
20m20 minutes ago

There is more and more threatening that BCH's hard fork upgrade will have spin-off(s) by some parties. It is said that they will creat "BCH Classic". I think exchanges should be prepared and not losing spin-off coins. Your customers may want to sell it(them) to have more BCH.
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ForkClassic this is great weee

[gentlemand]

^^^ THIS ^^^

Agreed, but I think they can get it considerably further up to a briefly flabbergasting price. I think they're going to aim for over 0.5 if they can. This is the push of pushes and it won't be half arsed.

[Rosewater Foundation]

^^^ THIS ^^^

Agreed, but I think they can get it considerably further up to a briefly flabbergasting price. I think they're going to aim for over 0.5 if they can. This is the push of pushes and it won't be half arsed.

yep. i should have seen this coming. everything looks so obvious in hindsight.

[Ludwig Von]

this is a pr disaster. some kids on reddit heard BCH is the real BTC and lost all their cash coins in a Bitcoin address.

Do any exchanges have a heart? It should be indeed possible for them to recover coins lost that way. I guess it is a big hassle since it compromises private keys. However, exchanges have compromised their private keys in many more ways for years, and the community has had to live with the consequences.  

Would or should a BTC address not be invalid for BCH?

[gentlemand]

Would or should a BTC address not be invalid for BCH?

They're totally identical, it's just a question of which network you're talking to the address with.

[bones261]

this is a pr disaster. some kids on reddit heard BCH is the real BTC and lost all their cash coins in a Bitcoin address.

but which will be the real fake bitcoin?

@JihanWu
20m20 minutes ago

There is more and more threatening that BCH's hard fork upgrade will have spin-off(s) by some parties. It is said that they will creat "BCH Classic". I think exchanges should be prepared and not losing spin-off coins. Your customers may want to sell it(them) to have more BCH.
41 replies 32 retweets 71 likes

ForkClassic this is great weee

Good God! Are they going to give birth to a new coin every time they want to do a software upgrade? What's next? Monetizing testnet coins too?