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November 12, 2017, 09:48:12 PM

How Many btc could they stil have to dump  Huh  Huh

Only the first 10,000 of the 160,000 stuck transactions went through.  There are many people who've been trying to sell BTC for over 1 day now, but have had their coins stuck in mempool:

As the remaining 150,000 stuck transactions get processed, we could see continued dumping.  

I think we'll see BTC fall to a low between $3,000 to $4,500 over the next few weeks, before the BCH FOMO wears off for this wave and we get a significant rebound.


How do you know they are sell orders? I tried to buy and failed (or at least, haven't seen any yet)

They aren't all sell orders.  Only some of them are.  The exact % is speculation.
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November 12, 2017, 09:50:47 PM
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Please, i can´t read all that was written in Wallobserver in a timely manner.
What was the gist of it ?
Can somebody help me out, thanks.



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November 12, 2017, 09:51:04 PM


they're neither. they're transactions waiting to be processed.

edit try https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/books/USD
or
http://bitcoin-analytics.com/
for buys vs sells
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November 12, 2017, 09:51:27 PM

I appreciate this kind of comments. Your work and research will benefit us all, thank you very much.

One shill kissing another shill's ass. How cute.
Can you two guys take your lovefest elsewhere, like the big blocker shill forum?
We need more throughput. Segwit is not nearly enough. I hope we can agree that far at least?
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November 12, 2017, 09:53:11 PM

I appreciate this kind of comments. Your work and research will benefit us all, thank you very much.

One shill kissing another shill's ass. How cute.
Can you two guys take your lovefest elsewhere, like the big blocker shill forum?

Sorry for not thanking your theories about conspiracies, empty phrases and personal desacretitaciones.
Also, have not you ignored me? Do it again please.
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November 12, 2017, 09:55:01 PM

Also, if those points that you say have already been dictated and are sufficiently clear, I do not understand why still the differences of opinion between miners, developers, users, etc.
Miners and users have different goals. Miners want to make as much profit as possible. We want to keep our money in our pockets.

That aside, there are a growing number of people who want to see bitcoin fail. Some people just want to drag others down. And of course, most people, regardless of faction, are emotionally invested in their personal narrative. Beware of anyone using emotional terms like "bigblocktards" and the like. Arguments matter people, not emotional outbursts.
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November 12, 2017, 09:56:22 PM

you were lied to in expecting that btc (core) is "bitcoin"
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November 12, 2017, 09:56:33 PM

We need more throughput. Segwit is not nearly enough. I hope we can agree that far at least?

Ibian, there was never a time when Bitcoin users or even the Core developers, denied that more throughput or lower fees were needed.

BUT... it is completely disingenuous to bring up "more throughput needed" EVERY TIME that the network gets spammed by bad actors and create a massive backlog, but never bring it up when the network is operating normally and the mempool is nearly empty (which is like 95% of the entire year!).

Can we at least agree on that?
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November 12, 2017, 09:57:03 PM


gravity has to/is clearly works near instantly through the galaxy, otherwise it would fall apart.

Recent reception of gravitation waves simultaneously to light signals from a distant galaxy's dramatic dwarf stars collapsing one into another prove that wrong.

And quantum entanglement cannot be used to send information.

By definition, quantum entanglement IS information exchange in zero time regardless of distance. Changing the state of 'A' instantly changes the state of 'B', and any binary state system can be used for information exchange.

On gravity waves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFJjrD5pq_I
If you really are interested, you should check out alternate explanations as well.
Standard physics explanation on gravity is a logical fallacy resulting from circular argument:

Mass of particles generates a gravity field in the 3d spatial space (whatever that is, it is undefined in material terms), and particles have mass because the gravity field of other particles "pulls" on them in the 3d spatial space.

It is a circular argument, a closed loophole of thought. Does not explain the origin of mass in matter (no, Higgs-bozons are a hoax, which assumes the 3d spatial space has magical abilities, non measurable ofc).
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November 12, 2017, 09:58:33 PM

Found these questions popping up, interesting.


1) What is segwit?

2) Who is behind segwit?

3) Who is Blockstream?

4) Is bitcoin broken?

5) Why is it not?

6) Why do they say it is?

7) How long has block size debate being going on?

8 ) What are side chains?

9) How do side chains solve blocksize debate?

10) How does network, storage and cpu upgrades help blocksize?

11) Why is bitcoin unique to other coins?

12) Who would want bitcoin broken?

13) Why does bitcoin lag in software development?

14) What is unique about the bitcoin software environment?

15) Why is trust and transparency important?

 
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November 12, 2017, 09:59:12 PM

We need more throughput. Segwit is not nearly enough. I hope we can agree that far at least?

Ibian, there was never a time when Bitcoin users or even the Core developers, denied that more throughput or lower fees were needed.

BUT... it is completely disingenuous to bring up "more throughput needed" EVERY TIME that the network gets spammed by bad actors and create a massive backlog, but never bring it up when the network is operating normally and the mempool is nearly empty (which is like 95% of the entire year!).

Can we at least agree on that?
I bring it up every time we have this discussion. Fees should be low enough to be meaningless for the average paycheck-to-paycheck worker bee. It isn't and hasn't been for a while.
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November 12, 2017, 10:00:02 PM

Please, i can´t read all that was written in Wallobserver in a timely manner.
What was the gist of it ?
Can somebody help me out, thanks.

Like my wife says: Explain the Internet, but in five minutes . . .

So what's happening today. Anything interesting?

not really, little flash crash to mid channel

seems to be a lot of chatter about alt coins but meh
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November 12, 2017, 10:02:42 PM

We need more throughput. Segwit is not nearly enough. I hope we can agree that far at least?

Ibian, there was never a time when Bitcoin users or even the Core developers, denied that more throughput or lower fees were needed.

BUT... it is completely disingenuous to bring up "more throughput needed" EVERY TIME that the network gets spammed by bad actors and create a massive backlog, but never bring it up when the network is operating normally and the mempool is nearly empty (which is like 95% of the entire year!).

Can we at least agree on that?
I bring it up every time we have this discussion. Fees should be low enough to be meaningless for the average paycheck-to-paycheck worker bee. It isn't and hasn't been for a while.

And... You hit the nail on the head!!! That's what it's all about

Give us super fast service with low transaction fees
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November 12, 2017, 10:05:06 PM

We need more throughput. Segwit is not nearly enough. I hope we can agree that far at least?

Ibian, there was never a time when Bitcoin users or even the Core developers, denied that more throughput or lower fees were needed.

BUT... it is completely disingenuous to bring up "more throughput needed" EVERY TIME that the network gets spammed by bad actors and create a massive backlog, but never bring it up when the network is operating normally and the mempool is nearly empty (which is like 95% of the entire year!).

Can we at least agree on that?
I bring it up every time we have this discussion. Fees should be low enough to be meaningless for the average paycheck-to-paycheck worker bee. It isn't and hasn't been for a while.

And... You hit the nail on the head!!! That's what it's all about
It should be, but it really isn't. Just look at how he dodged the question.
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November 12, 2017, 10:05:38 PM

oh ok, thank you
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November 12, 2017, 10:06:34 PM

Found these questions popping up, interesting.


1) What is segwit?

2) Who is behind segwit?

3) Who is Blockstream?

4) Is bitcoin broken?

5) Why is it not?

6) Why do they say it is?

7) How long has block size debate being going on?

8 ) What are side chains?

9) How do side chains solve blocksize debate?

10) How does network, storage and cpu upgrades help blocksize?

11) Why is bitcoin unique to other coins?

12) Who would want bitcoin broken?

13) Why does bitcoin lag in software development?

14) What is unique about the bitcoin software environment?

15) Why is trust and transparency important?

 


There is one very simple answer. Segwit makes bitcoin sidechains possible. Only sidechains can solve the scaling problem. There won't be one solution for the scaling problem. There will be many sidechains. Because different people have different ideas about money. Competition between bitcoin sidechains will show us the way.
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November 12, 2017, 10:06:49 PM

Bitcoin gold is now alive.

https://bitcoingold.org/bitcoin-gold-live/
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November 12, 2017, 10:08:57 PM


By definition, quantum entanglement IS information exchange in zero time regardless of distance. Changing the state of 'A' instantly changes the state of 'B', and any binary state system can be used for information exchange.

On gravity waves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFJjrD5pq_I
If you really are interested, you should check out alternate explanations as well.
Standard physics explanation on gravity is a logical fallacy resulting from circular argument:

Mass of particles generates a gravity field in the 3d spatial space (whatever that is, it is undefined in material terms), and particles have mass because the gravity field of other particles "pulls" on them in the 3d spatial space.

It is a circular argument, a closed loophole of thought. Does not explain the origin of mass in matter (no, Higgs-bozons are a hoax, which assumes the 3d spatial space has magical abilities, non measurable ofc).

Of course I disagree, but we are in the wrong forum for this. If you're are looking for some credible faster-than-light information transport schemes, I suggest you check the work of Guenter Nimtz with the tunnel effect ... for example http://startrek.ehabich.info/ftl.htm
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November 12, 2017, 10:10:12 PM

We need more throughput. Segwit is not nearly enough. I hope we can agree that far at least?

Ibian, there was never a time when Bitcoin users or even the Core developers, denied that more throughput or lower fees were needed.

BUT... it is completely disingenuous to bring up "more throughput needed" EVERY TIME that the network gets spammed by bad actors and create a massive backlog, but never bring it up when the network is operating normally and the mempool is nearly empty (which is like 95% of the entire year!).

Can we at least agree on that?
I bring it up every time we have this discussion. Fees should be low enough to be meaningless for the average paycheck-to-paycheck worker bee. It isn't and hasn't been for a while.

And... You hit the nail on the head!!! That's what it's all about
It should be, but it really isn't. Just look at how he dodged the question.
Who dodged what?
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November 12, 2017, 10:10:28 PM

Guys bitcoin cash is Just a pump dump this Morning iT was $2484 now its lower then $1500
Highest And biggest shit coin ever.

For the real coin the one And Only
This is Just a correction pure nature reaction
The last time that the price was going Fast upwards we had a correction
Like this And the "ban of China for btc" iT was going realy Fast downwards
But then again iT recovered like a train

Take a popcorn, take a seat, watch the price that Will go up.
What goes down comes up And what goes up comes down But bitcoin gets every time stronger And a higher valeu.

Enjoy it.
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