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November 14, 2017, 05:21:36 PM

I am witnessing this censorship.

As much as I disagree with them, deleting posts is cowardly and shameful.

Let us confront their ideas in a free and open forum, selective deletion only strengthens their claims, a corollary of the Streisand effect, foolish and counterproductive.
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November 14, 2017, 05:29:42 PM

I don't understand.
They deleted Peter R. answer to my question about the relationship between the nodes and the consensus rules (I suppose that for being "off topic"), but they did not erase all other comments from other users on the same subject.

Yes. Moderation getting very partisan. And veering far from stated policies.


Here is what I wrote, that was deleted by the mods:


Nodes can influence the rule set and its enforcement in proportion to their share of the network hash power.  This is Bitcoin's direct governance mechanism.

Market participants can influence the rule set and its enforcement in proportion to their economic power.  This is Bitcoin's indirect governance mechanism.

A non-mining node by itself has no influence.  This is easy to prove: if you run 100 raspberry-pi nodes, do you have more influence over the rule set and its enforcement than if you unplugged 99 of them?  Of course not, because only the people behind those (non-mining) nodes matter, not the nodes themselves.



Thats an oversimplification, if everyone were to run a node which differed from the consensus rules that all the miners ran, then someone is gonna change.
Probably, the miners will change to the rules of the nodes as they have more pressing bills to pay, this is of course the basis for UASF.
Collectively nodes indirectly dictate the rules.




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November 14, 2017, 05:32:11 PM

wheres that smellly troll lauda.....
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November 14, 2017, 05:38:52 PM

I don't understand.
They deleted Peter R. answer to my question about the relationship between the nodes and the consensus rules (I suppose that for being "off topic"), but they did not erase all other comments from other users on the same subject.

Yes. Moderation getting very partisan. And veering far from stated policies.


Here is what I wrote, that was deleted by the mods:


Nodes can influence the rule set and its enforcement in proportion to their share of the network hash power.  This is Bitcoin's direct governance mechanism.

Market participants can influence the rule set and its enforcement in proportion to their economic power.  This is Bitcoin's indirect governance mechanism.

A non-mining node by itself has no influence.  This is easy to prove: if you run 100 raspberry-pi nodes, do you have more influence over the rule set and its enforcement than if you unplugged 99 of them?  Of course not, because only the people behind those (non-mining) nodes matter, not the nodes themselves.



Thats an oversimplification, if everyone were to run a node which differed from the consensus rules that all the miners ran, then someone is gonna change.
Probably, the miners will change to the rules of the nodes as they have more pressing bills to pay, this is of course the basis for UASF.
Collectively nodes indirectly dictate the rules.


I think what you mean is that the people indirectly dictate the rules, including of course the people who run nodes.  Which is exactly what I said.  

The point I'm making is that the influence of a non-mining node by itself is zero.  Consider:

A. You have 100 mining nodes.  If you unplug 99 of them, you objectively have less ability to influence / enforce the rule set.

B. You have 100 raspberry-pi (non mining) nodes.  If you unplug 99 of them, your ability to influence / enforce the rule set is unchanged.  

If you understand PoW, the truth of this should be very obvious.
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November 14, 2017, 05:39:25 PM

wheres that smellly troll lauda.....
nice friendly comment. take your battle elsewhere .we don't want to hear your BitCHing here
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wheres that smellly troll lauda.....
nice friendly comment. take your battle elsewhere .we don't want to hear your BitCHing here
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hahah  lucky i dont trade here....bitcoin is getting dumped guys, run while you can....ITS GOING UNDER $5K VERY SOON
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November 14, 2017, 05:58:17 PM

wheres that smellly troll lauda.....
nice friendly comment. take your battle elsewhere .we don't want to hear your BitCHing here
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hahah  lucky i dont trade here....bitcoin is getting dumped guys, run while you can....ITS GOING UNDER $5K VERY SOON
grow up
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grow up?

why because im telling the truth and not a perma bull lols


BTC/SEGWIT is gona dump, no one wants to pay such high prices for a coin that doesnt perform
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November 14, 2017, 06:00:53 PM

grow up?

why because im telling the truth and not a perma bull lols


BTC/SEGWIT is gona dump, no one wants to pay such high prices for a coin that doesnt perform

just stop your nonsense!~ BCH is trollfest and we are here to make money and spread LOVE! :-D ===>"OG" BTC FTW!!!
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November 14, 2017, 06:01:38 PM

wheres that smellly troll lauda.....
nice friendly comment. take your battle elsewhere .we don't want to hear your BitCHing here
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hahah  lucky i dont trade here....bitcoin is getting dumped guys, run while you can....ITS GOING UNDER $5K VERY SOON

Et alors?
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grow up?

why because im telling the truth and not a perma bull lols


BTC/SEGWIT is gona dump, no one wants to pay such high prices for a coin that doesnt perform

just stop your nonsense!~ BCH is trollfest and we are here to make money and spread LOVE! :-D ===>BTC FTW!!!

who said anything about the real bitcoin bch ?

im just saying i heard big players are gonna dump btc tonight under $5k
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grow up?

why because im telling the truth and not a perma bull lols


BTC/SEGWIT is gona dump, no one wants to pay such high prices for a coin that doesnt perform

just stop your nonsense!~ BCH is trollfest and we are here to make money and spread LOVE! :-D ===>BTC FTW!!!

who said anything about the real bitcoin bch ?

im just saying i heard big players are gonna dump btc tonight under $5k

the real bitcoin is umm you guessed it BTC :-D we may have to reset the SegWit thingy back to normal someday but ehh who cares ..lol
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grow up?

why because im telling the truth and not a perma bull lols


BTC/SEGWIT is gona dump, no one wants to pay such high prices for a coin that doesnt perform
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grow up?

why because im telling the truth and not a perma bull lols


BTC/SEGWIT is gona dump, no one wants to pay such high prices for a coin that doesnt perform

just stop your nonsense!~ BCH is trollfest and we are here to make money and spread LOVE! :-D ===>BTC FTW!!!

who said anything about the real bitcoin bch ?

im just saying i heard big players are gonna dump btc tonight under $5k

the real bitcoin is umm you guessed it BTC :-D we may have to reset the SegWit thingy back to normal someday but ehh who cares ..lol
you stupid NOOB, i told you earlier you cant remove segshit lols
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November 14, 2017, 06:07:19 PM

You heard it here first folks, BTC under $5K tonight!

Have your fiat ready. lol
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November 14, 2017, 06:07:40 PM

im just saying i heard big players are gonna dump btc tonight under $5k
Gotta call Jimbo quick! Be kind.
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November 14, 2017, 06:09:53 PM

grow up?

why because im telling the truth and not a perma bull lols


BTC/SEGWIT is gona dump, no one wants to pay such high prices for a coin that doesnt perform

just stop your nonsense!~ BCH is trollfest and we are here to make money and spread LOVE! :-D ===>BTC FTW!!!

who said anything about the real bitcoin bch ?

im just saying i heard big players are gonna dump btc tonight under $5k

the real bitcoin is umm you guessed it BTC :-D we may have to reset the SegWit thingy back to normal someday but ehh who cares ..lol
you stupid NOOB, i told you earlier you cant remove segshit lols

i will make it happen if you like :-D ~you even code brah?
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grow up?

why because im telling the truth and not a perma bull lols


BTC/SEGWIT is gona dump, no one wants to pay such high prices for a coin that doesnt perform

just stop your nonsense!~ BCH is trollfest and we are here to make money and spread LOVE! :-D ===>BTC FTW!!!

who said anything about the real bitcoin bch ?

im just saying i heard big players are gonna dump btc tonight under $5k

the real bitcoin is umm you guessed it BTC :-D we may have to reset the SegWit thingy back to normal someday but ehh who cares ..lol
you stupid NOOB, i told you earlier you cant remove segshit lols

i will make it happen if you like :-D ~you even code brah?
do it then lols..
never forget....

https://www.segwetters.org/
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why because im telling the truth and not a perma bull lols
BTC/SEGWIT is gona dump, no one wants to pay such high prices for a coin that doesnt perform

You have no idea what's coming. Do you ?

You think Roger and Jihan can do battle with Wall Street ? Win ?


what blockstream has done is drive away big money...watch and see
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why because im telling the truth and not a perma bull lols
BTC/SEGWIT is gona dump, no one wants to pay such high prices for a coin that doesnt perform

You have no idea what's coming. Do you ?

You think Roger and Jihan can do battle with Wall Street ? Win ?



you need kneecaps broken in NYC i can accommodate Wink  ha
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