Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Gab0]

I was reading this article, about the technological advances that we will see in bitcoin in 2018, and there is something that caught my attention.
"Keep an Eye Out for These Bitcoin Tech Trends in 2018"
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/keep-eye-out-these-bitcoins-tech-trends-2018/

I know it's a subject that may have been discussed in the past, but I would like to know what you think about this:

Sidechains are alternative blockchains but with coins pegged one-to-one to specific bitcoins. This allows users to effectively “move” bitcoins to chains that operate under entirely different rules and means that Bitcoin and all its sidechains only use the “original” 21 million coins embedded in the Bitcoin protocol. A sidechain could then, for example, allow for faster confirmations, or more privacy, or extended smart contract capabilities, or just about anything else that altcoins are used for today.

The concept was first proposed by Blockstream CEO Dr. Adam Back and others back in 2014; it formed the basis around which Blockstream was first founded.

I want to clarify that I am not against the side chains, I am even very enthusiastic about the possibilities of use that they can offer us ... but, is not there the possibility that there could be a conflict of real interest?
I ask because the bitcoiners of yesteryear, was very insightful, eceptic and distrustful, but it seems to me that this is not a point to which attention is paid; and I would like to know why (assuming I've been late for this discussion). There are reasons to trust that the intentions of Adam Back and G. Maxwell are totally transparent and there is no cognitive bias related to their interests?

On the other hand, what role does Adam Back fulfill in Bitcoin Core? Could someone point me out where to read about how to organize and take decisions in Bitcoin Core?


Please, I do not want it to be misunderstood, it is not my intention to trolling.

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[Gab0]

quotes with lots of idiots and stupid

This list could easily be extended a couple of pages.

lol... nice compilation  there bud

and while you're at it, you could do the same with a certain frequent poster in here.
just use "centralized craptocurrrency", "pms", "jews and cuckolds" for search words,
the resulting list would extend thousands of pages....

 I'm sure of that 

[alexeft]

What we are witnessing right now are the last weeks of bitcoin being the dominant cryptocurrency. Ripple and Ethereum are both going to fly past it in the near term. I think that the total collapse might be just a few days away before the masses understand that there are no longer gains to be made in bitcoin and start evacuating their assets to these two more modern cryptocurrencies.

More modern cryptocurrencies? Some are not even cryptocurrencies (like ripple)! Some others don't even work, yet they have a price that goes up and down (like Uno)!!!!! Get real!

As for modernity, you can try the bitcoin lightning network here!!! https://htlc.me/
Of course, it's on testnet.

The Lightning Addresses seem kinda long. Please send me 20 cents. 

lntb13370n1pdyuj2qpp504kf7ht2q70mu9c7w5y2yz3sh540rzet0mmqmpjyzrh2wl274p3sdz80v3 xjg36yg6rzefexf3n2v3dxsmkgvpdx3jrswfd8psnwvpdx93njcesxs6rjdp5xs6zylgcqzys6yyxjg dx5pp54pdam2duxvyvta63mh675lspjav0500ds5a6htyydd46y8tjqy4unkwtj52w2pmt2fwhqn4xw mu33jcqq55uxcfc35cqmjvg6k

Go to the above address, generate an invoice on the "Receive" tab, then paste me the id of the invoice. You can also do it yourself. Just use different browsers for sending and receiving.

[alexeft]

Back at 15k

A year ago nobody believed it could get to 15k by 2018. That's an amazing price to stabilize at.

Indeed! 

[HairyMaclairy]

I did wonder whether that 600 coin dump 12 hours ago was the peak of the attack.  I think far too early to call it over.

[mymenace]

I was reading this article, about the technological advances that we will see in bitcoin in 2018, and there is something that caught my attention.
"Keep an Eye Out for These Bitcoin Tech Trends in 2018"
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/keep-eye-out-these-bitcoins-tech-trends-2018/

I know it's a subject that may have been discussed in the past, but I would like to know what you think about this:

Sidechains are alternative blockchains but with coins pegged one-to-one to specific bitcoins. This allows users to effectively “move” bitcoins to chains that operate under entirely different rules and means that Bitcoin and all its sidechains only use the “original” 21 million coins embedded in the Bitcoin protocol. A sidechain could then, for example, allow for faster confirmations, or more privacy, or extended smart contract capabilities, or just about anything else that altcoins are used for today.

The concept was first proposed by Blockstream CEO Dr. Adam Back and others back in 2014; it formed the basis around which Blockstream was first founded.

I want to clarify that I am not against the side chains, I am even very enthusiastic about the possibilities of use that they can offer us ... but, is not there the possibility that there could be a conflict of real interest?
I ask because the bitcoiners of yesteryear, was very insightful, eceptic and distrustful, but it seems to me that this is not a point to which attention is paid; and I would like to know why (assuming I've been late for this discussion). There are reasons to trust that the intentions of Adam Back and G. Maxwell are totally transparent and there is no cognitive bias related to their interests?

On the other hand, what role does Adam Back fulfill in Bitcoin Core? Could someone point me out where to read about how to organize and take decisions in Bitcoin Core?


Please, I do not want it to be misunderstood, it is not my intention to trolling.

To me this is a no brainer

bitcoin is built, basically complete and tested. All it needs to do now is evolve

1) smart contracts on the blockchain
2) specifically desinged POS payment system for retail with its own tokens pegged to bitcoin
etc etc etc

take a look at rsk.co
smart contracts


the trust is in bitcoin, the trusted blockchain, unhackable for years

then pegging your side-chain to it makes it completely transparent

as long as you have a token with real world value and transparency (amazon coin, nursing coin, disability coin, coal coin, solar coin, etc etc)

it can be trusted

[conspirosphere.tk]

meme of the day:

[somac.]

Well just woke up and have seen that there is a small dip on ripple and bitcoin is back at 15k. I hope this madness is now over and btc is about to extend its gains.... massively

[gentlemand]

meme of the day:

Presumably if you were a whale you could play this for real with the BTC market.

[HairyMaclairy]

Well just woke up and have seen that there is a small dip on ripple and bitcoin is back at 15k. I hope this madness is now over and btc is about to extend its gains.... massively

My base line is that we are still under attack until we get through this weekend and see huge green candles on badger next week. 

[somac.]

Well just woke up and have seen that there is a small dip on ripple and bitcoin is back at 15k. I hope this madness is now over and btc is about to extend its gains.... massively

My base line is that we are still under attack until we get through this weekend and see huge green candles on badger next week. 

now looks like it is going back up, so maybe you're right.

[txtravwill]

Well just woke up and have seen that there is a small dip on ripple and bitcoin is back at 15k. I hope this madness is now over and btc is about to extend its gains.... massively

My base line is that we are still under attack until we get through this weekend and see huge green candles on badger next week. 

now looks like it is going back up, so maybe you're right.

We've been in this cycle of slowly ticking up to 15K, OR even almost 16K over hours and days - but then dropping back down to 14K/15K or lower in just minutes... then repeating.  Yawn.   Meanwhile those crazy alts are just shooting up under speculation.  On twitter they read like crazy immature millennial investors in a market cap race mainly.  Very odd to see this.

[sirazimuth]

just a shout out for new season of Black Mirror.
didnt think it could get better, but it did. eye guzzzled all six ...frikkin epic show.
woulda been even more epic if one of those dementedly awesome writers was into bitcoin and
somehow weaved it into a storyline as it wouldnt be out of place what with all the future computer tech and all.
oh well maybe next season....

and this ripple shit is getting irritating cuz i sold all mine like 2 months ago....

[HairyMaclairy]

Well just woke up and have seen that there is a small dip on ripple and bitcoin is back at 15k. I hope this madness is now over and btc is about to extend its gains.... massively

My base line is that we are still under attack until we get through this weekend and see huge green candles on badger next week.  

now looks like it is going back up, so maybe you're right.

I think the Ripple whales are just shaking out the traders’ stop losses. I tried that game a couple times with my trading account and decided it was not for me.

[xhomerx10]

Looks like Yobit has these so far:

SBTC
B2X
GOD
ATOM

Could be worth a few Satoshis. If you have the energy.

Whats important is when you can deposit, not just trade.
Yobit doesn't allow deposits in any of these coins.

Currently:
  Bitcoin Diamond, sell on gate.io
  SuperBitcoin sell on okex.com

You can download clients from github and import you priv. keys.
Prices are slowly declining..

 Thanks for the tip!  Converted my SuperBitcoin gift to original Bitcoin... still trying to figure out the Bitcoin Diamond though.

[El duderino_]

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UPDATE     AND GOOD LUCK

[Heater]

Can the next poll be 'what is the most annoying shitcoin'?

I'm curious if Ripple has overtaken bcash.

[RoomBot]

I have looked at ZEC before.  The main thing that held me back is that it is still very early in its mining cycle - only something like 15% mined. Monero is comparatively much more mature.  And of course the questions around it’s ability to be unlocked.  But you make good points.

Tron making top 10 off the back of a McAfee tweet is particularly sad.

What's REALLY sad is that his account was hacked! McAfee claims he never promotes #coinoftheday

People are following the TA of a hacker.  

[TERA2]

Were all traders here though.

I'm not sure you can even consider this market "trading", more like attempting to analyze which way the scam is going:

Yup. You've got an everage fluctuation of btc around the double digit. And that's just the bitcoin, most alts can get a +/- 30% in a matter of hours.
Anyone saying they trade on a market like that is just fooling themselves.
Which doesn't mean they can't make profit of course, but just that they aren't really in control.

I read this without knowing it was from roach and guessed it was from roach.

[Heater]

Dear Travis J. Iles, Securities Commissioner, Texas State Securities Board -  can you please send one of these nice letters to Roger Ver, owner of bitcoin.com and promoter of Bitcoin Cash? Extra points if you refer to Bitcoin Cash as Bcash. Thanks in advance.

https://www.ssb.texas.gov/sites/default/files/BitConnect_ENF-18-CDO-1754.pdf