Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Robin,Hood]

So far this has been the longest downward period

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

So far this has been the longest downward period

look one year ago where we were... they just tried to push it super high, to then demoralize us...

without usd fiat the american oligarchy collapse in rampage from inner cities, and their mcmansion will burn with them inside.

[JayJuanGee]

Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion is not the true vision of infofront.

infofront's true vision wouldn't let trolls to hijack this thread so easily. If this shit keeps happening, I'll have no choice but to fork this thread and start it again as it meant to be.

The new W/O thread will be ripped off from any troll protocols (like anonymint, roach, jbeher and other retards) and only infofront's true protocol to be left.

Raise hands now.

P.S: I won't be reverting your past crap. Your past messages (troll or not) will be safe.  I'll copy everything from this topic one by one but (tr00) moderation will be taking place by the page 20781.

Even though your post comes off as a bit of a seeming joke, I get the sense that you are serious.

Don't get me wrong.  I am fairly critical of infofront's latest announcement that he is following the segwit skeptical ideas of folks like anunymint with a decent portion of his storage bitcoins by keeping them in legacy addresses.... so yeah, seems like bullshit to do it and like bullshit to announce that you are doing it in favor of what some of the trolls, shills and bitcoin attackers want peeps to do.

So, yeah there can be some issues with his tolerance of some of the ideas of seemingly obvious troll/shills like anonymint, roach, jbreher, who seem to go beyond with their presentations of what seems to be disinformation.  So, yeah, even though each of us might, from time to time, draw the line more strictly than infofront, there is way too insufficient of evidence to suggest that he has either sold out too trolls or that overall his discretion has gone beyond the pale by allowing a decent amount of the posts of these trolls.

I think that overall, we cannot let the "perfect" be the enemy of the good, and on balance infofront continues to establish decently sufficient discretion with his moderation and life/time balances.  Also, I don't think that he manipulated the self-critical poll that overwhelmingly showed that WO participants remain content with his strike of balance.  Further, I cannot recall if you ran for "ownership of the WO thread", but the votes were overwhelming in favor of Infofront, and even if we were to conduct a thread ownership change vote again today (assuming that theymos et al would even be receptive to such a change) or in the near future, it remains strongly likely that the vast overwhelming majority of eligible voters would support infofront...

Go ahead, Mindrust, see if you can garner support for a WO 2.0 thread.  I would likely participate in such thread, just to see how it goes (because in theory it is not a bad idea, and your intentions seem good), but I doubt that even your more strict troll-booting strategy would result in a better WO thread that also allows for a diverse set of ideas that weigh on the side of allowing discourse (even some trolling and shills, as long as they can present substantive points), as Infofront's ongoing approach seems to accomplish a decent balance.  

Furthermore, network effects?  It could take a few years to accomplish any kind of following within a WO 2.0 thread, that is assuming that you would be able to gain momentum in that direction.. good luck.      

About 3 hours ago I messaged infofront to tell him I have left this thread. 

Yeah right!  Take this "promise" with a BIG ass grain of salt.  Trolls/shills make these kinds of going away promises all the time, but they tend to last for years and come back from time to time to clarify and "enlighten" the rest of us to their doom and gloom bullshit, and new revelations that they have discovered within their tend to be small, smarter than the rest of us brains.

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion is not the true vision of infofront.

infofront's true vision wouldn't let trolls to hijack this thread so easily. If this shit keeps happening, I'll have no choice but to fork this thread and start it again as it meant to be.

The new W/O thread will be ripped off from any troll protocols (like anonymint, roach, jbeher and other retards) and only infofront's true protocol to be left.

Raise hands now.

P.S: I won't be reverting your past crap. Your past messages (troll or not) will be safe.  I'll copy everything from this topic one by one but (tr00) moderation will be taking place by the page 20781.

Even though your post comes off as a bit of a seeming joke, I get the sense that you are serious.

Don't get me wrong.  I am fairly critical of infofront's latest announcement that he is following the segwit skeptical ideas of folks like anunymint with a decent portion of his storage bitcoins by keeping them in legacy addresses.... so yeah, seems like bullshit to do it and like bullshit to announce that you are doing it in favor of what some of the trolls, shills and bitcoin attackers want peeps to do.

So, yeah there can be some issues with his tolerance of some of the ideas of seemingly obvious troll/shills like anonymint, roach, jbreher, who seem to go beyond with their presentations of what seems to be disinformation.  So, yeah, even though each of us might, from time to time, draw the line more strictly than infofront, there is way too insufficient of evidence to suggest that he has either sold out too trolls or that overall his discretion has gone beyond the pale by allowing a decent amount of the posts of these trolls.

I think that overall, we cannot let the "perfect" be the enemy of the good, and on balance infofront continues to establish decently sufficient discretion with his moderation and life/time balances.  Also, I don't think that he manipulated the self-critical poll that overwhelmingly showed that WO participants remain content with his strike of balance.  Further, I cannot recall if you ran for "ownership of the WO thread", but the votes were overwhelming in favor of Infofront, and even if we were to conduct a thread ownership change vote again today (assuming that theymos et al would even be receptive to such a change) or in the near future, it remains strongly likely that the vast overwhelming majority of eligible voters would support infofront...

Go ahead, Mindrust, see if you can garner support for a WO 2.0 thread.  I would likely participate in such thread, just to see how it goes (because in theory it is not a bad idea, and your intentions seem good), but I doubt that even your more strict troll-booting strategy would result in a better WO thread that also allows for a diverse set of ideas that weigh on the side of allowing discourse (even some trolling and shills, as long as they can present substantive points), as Infofront's ongoing approach seems to accomplish a decent balance.  

Furthermore, network effects?  It could take a few years to accomplish any kind of following within a WO 2.0 thread, that is assuming that you would be able to gain momentum in that direction.. good luck.      

About 3 hours ago I messaged infofront to tell him I have left this thread. 

Yeah right!  Take this "promise" with a BIG ass grain of salt.  Trolls/shills make these kinds of going away promises all the time, but they tend to last for years and come back from time to time to clarify and "enlighten" the rest of us to their doom and gloom bullshit, and new revelations that they have discovered within their tend to be small, smarter than the rest of us brains.

the plan to use segwit coin while keeping real bitcoin to fork is smart... it was explained a few post earlier.

wrong, perfect is the only path against the leeches, scamers and all their cohort of minion who have for centuries enslaved mankind.

[JayJuanGee]

Fucking dumb ass question but how do you know if your bitcoin’s are being held in a SegWit or Non SegWit address?

If the address begins with 1, they are definitely not Segwit coins.
If the address begins with 3, they are held in a P2sH address. They could be segwit or could just be a multisign address. If the private keys are under your control, you should know. Likely they are a segwit address since you would definitely know if you set up a multisig address since it involves a very complicated process to set up. If the private keys are under someone else's control, like an exchange or online wallet, you will need to research or ask.
If the address begins with bc1, it is definitely a segwit address.

Pretty sure all of my bitcoin’s are in addresses begginning with a 1
I will need to check this tonight

But yes I am the sole owner of every single private key.

It would have only become possible to move to a segwit address in about late August 2017... so any coins that have not been moved before that would be in legacy addresses by default.  There has been no automatic conversion to segwit addresses of legacy addresses (and I am not sure if such automatic conversion/movement would be possible).

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Fucking dumb ass question but how do you know if your bitcoin’s are being held in a SegWit or Non SegWit address?

If the address begins with 1, they are definitely not Segwit coins.
If the address begins with 3, they are held in a P2sH address. They could be segwit or could just be a multisign address. If the private keys are under your control, you should know. Likely they are a segwit address since you would definitely know if you set up a multisig address since it involves a very complicated process to set up. If the private keys are under someone else's control, like an exchange or online wallet, you will need to research or ask.
If the address begins with bc1, it is definitely a segwit address.

Pretty sure all of my bitcoin’s are in addresses begginning with a 1
I will need to check this tonight

But yes I am the sole owner of every single private key.

It would have only become possible to move to a segwit address in about late August 2017... so any coins that have not been moved before that would be in legacy addresses by default.  There has been no automatic conversion to segwit addresses of legacy addresses (and I am not sure if such automatic conversion/movement would be possible).

one sure thing I don't have the will to understand this artificial shitshow, so imagine what noob feel about it? the dumb fuck jump, they don't care, and the other are lost facing such division. like an outsider watching the soft civil war in the usa... where pedo hillary and her friends are all immune from prosecution and cocaine users are hunted worst than jihadis terrorists, where kids are pumped with anti adhd or what ever crap the terrorists of the psychiatric institution decide to push after having lost the market of killing gays.

ps, thanks for your clarification...

[mymenace]

Fucking dumb ass question but how do you know if your bitcoin’s are being held in a SegWit or Non SegWit address?

If the address begins with 1, they are definitely not Segwit coins.
If the address begins with 3, they are held in a P2sH address. They could be segwit or could just be a multisign address. If the private keys are under your control, you should know. Likely they are a segwit address since you would definitely know if you set up a multisig address since it involves a very complicated process to set up. If the private keys are under someone else's control, like an exchange or online wallet, you will need to research or ask.
If the address begins with bc1, it is definitely a segwit address.

Pretty sure all of my bitcoin’s are in addresses begginning with a 1
I will need to check this tonight

But yes I am the sole owner of every single private key.

It would have only become possible to move to a segwit address in about late August 2017... so any coins that have not been moved before that would be in legacy addresses by default.  There has been no automatic conversion to segwit addresses of legacy addresses (and I am not sure if such automatic conversion/movement would be possible).

one sure thing I don't have the will to understand this artificial shitshow, so imagine what noob feel about it? the dumb fuck jump, they don't care, and the other are lost facing such division. like an outsider watching the soft civil war in the usa... where pedo hillary and her friends are all immune from prosecution and cocaine users are hunted worst than jihadis terrorists, where kids are pumped with anti adhd or what ever crap the terrorists of the psychiatric institution decide to push after having lost the market of killing gays.

ps, thanks for your clarification...

Run to legacy addresses
Only bitcoiners no the real fear in not having legacy addresses
Always diversfiy your assets


Bitcoin is the weapon (why it was made)
Central Banks are the enemy

And you Soldier are the instrument to take down the criminal cabal





A tale of 2 worlds
Fairytale by mymenace

World 1
1) Obama becomes president 2008
2) Obama carries on Bush tradition
3) World gets worse

World 2
1) Fake president Obama elected
2) Release the Kraken (Bitcoin 2009)
3) Finished product complete 2010 (*Except for BitDNS - fast payment options) - Obama's CIA/NSA/FBI infiltrated forum board (satoshi RRRUUUUUNNNs, he knows who is in power)

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Fucking dumb ass question but how do you know if your bitcoin’s are being held in a SegWit or Non SegWit address?

If the address begins with 1, they are definitely not Segwit coins.
If the address begins with 3, they are held in a P2sH address. They could be segwit or could just be a multisign address. If the private keys are under your control, you should know. Likely they are a segwit address since you would definitely know if you set up a multisig address since it involves a very complicated process to set up. If the private keys are under someone else's control, like an exchange or online wallet, you will need to research or ask.
If the address begins with bc1, it is definitely a segwit address.

Pretty sure all of my bitcoin’s are in addresses begginning with a 1
I will need to check this tonight

But yes I am the sole owner of every single private key.

It would have only become possible to move to a segwit address in about late August 2017... so any coins that have not been moved before that would be in legacy addresses by default.  There has been no automatic conversion to segwit addresses of legacy addresses (and I am not sure if such automatic conversion/movement would be possible).

one sure thing I don't have the will to understand this artificial shitshow, so imagine what noob feel about it? the dumb fuck jump, they don't care, and the other are lost facing such division. like an outsider watching the soft civil war in the usa... where pedo hillary and her friends are all immune from prosecution and cocaine users are hunted worst than jihadis terrorists, where kids are pumped with anti adhd or what ever crap the terrorists of the psychiatric institution decide to push after having lost the market of killing gays.

ps, thanks for your clarification...

Run to legacy addresses
Only bitcoiners no the real fear in not having legacy addresses
Always diversfiy your assets


Bitcoin is the weapon (why it was made)
Central Banks are the enemy

And you Soldier are the instrument to take down the criminal cabal





A tale of 2 worlds
Fairytale by mymenace

World 1
1) Obama becomes president 2008
2) Obama carries on Bush tradition
3) World gets worse

World 2
1) Fake president Obama elected
2) Release the Kraken (Bitcoin 2009)
3) Finished product complete 2010 (*Except for BitDNS - fast payment options) - Obama's CIA/NSA/FBI infiltrated forum board (RRRUUUUUNNN we know who is in power)

only world : people liberation army of china get an yuan equipment power 100x time western one. corrupt pedo in the west rally and try to divert from their crimes (flying jeffrey slave aircraft and vakay in the rape islands, beach or uk) and then are all killed.

btc is irrelevant

the iq of mudd or comey isn't a threat... it's more like little ants trying to open a door... they are dumber than rocks, their actual and past cic are all total coward who just like to be in the pussy of their bimbos.... little peons.

[Rosewater Foundation]

This thread is numpty today. What happened? All the sane people took the weekend off?

[bones261]

It would have only become possible to move to a segwit address in about late August 2017... so any coins that have not been moved before that would be in legacy addresses by default.  There has been no automatic conversion to segwit addresses of legacy addresses (and I am not sure if such automatic conversion/movement would be possible).

No you cannot convert a legacy address to a segwit address. The addresses that start with a 1 can only be spent with the Pay to public key hash protocol. You also cannot covert a legacy multisig address to a segwit address, even though they both can use the pay to script hash protocol. The script hash used in legacy multisig is generated from a different redeem script than a segwit address. I am not quite sure how the new Bech addresses exactly work. But they use a totally different protocol as well and can only be used for segwit.

[mymenace]

Fucking dumb ass question but how do you know if your bitcoin’s are being held in a SegWit or Non SegWit address?

If the address begins with 1, they are definitely not Segwit coins.
If the address begins with 3, they are held in a P2sH address. They could be segwit or could just be a multisign address. If the private keys are under your control, you should know. Likely they are a segwit address since you would definitely know if you set up a multisig address since it involves a very complicated process to set up. If the private keys are under someone else's control, like an exchange or online wallet, you will need to research or ask.
If the address begins with bc1, it is definitely a segwit address.

Pretty sure all of my bitcoin’s are in addresses begginning with a 1
I will need to check this tonight
But yes I am the sole owner of every single private key.

It would have only become possible to move to a segwit address in about late August 2017... so any coins that have not been moved before that would be in legacy addresses by default.  There has been no automatic conversion to segwit addresses of legacy addresses (and I am not sure if such automatic conversion/movement would be possible).

one sure thing I don't have the will to understand this artificial shitshow, so imagine what noob feel about it? the dumb fuck jump, they don't care, and the other are lost facing such division. like an outsider watching the soft civil war in the usa... where pedo hillary and her friends are all immune from prosecution and cocaine users are hunted worst than jihadis terrorists, where kids are pumped with anti adhd or what ever crap the terrorists of the psychiatric institution decide to push after having lost the market of killing gays.
ps, thanks for your clarification...

Run to legacy addresses
Only bitcoiners no the real fear in not having legacy addresses
Always diversfiy your assets
Bitcoin is the weapon (why it was made)
Central Banks are the enemy
And you Soldier are the instrument to take down the criminal cabal


A tale of 2 worlds
Fairytale by mymenace

World 1
1) Obama becomes president 2008
2) Obama carries on Bush tradition
3) World gets worse

World 2
1) Fake president Obama elected
2) Release the Kraken (Bitcoin 2009)
3) Finished product complete 2010 (*Except for BitDNS - fast payment options) - Obama's CIA/NSA/FBI infiltrated forum board (RRRUUUUUNNN we know who is in power)

only world : people liberation army of china get an yuan equipment power 100x time western one. corrupt pedo in the west rally and try to divert from their crimes (flying jeffrey slave aircraft and vakay in the rape islands, beach or uk) and then are all killed.

btc is irrelevant

the iq of mudd or comey isn't a threat... it's more like little ants trying to open a door... they are dumber than rocks, their actual and past cic are all total coward who just like to be in the pussy of their bimbos.... little peons.

But bitcoin is relevant

You need tools to replace the old system

1) A new currency
2) A new Presidnet
3) A new DOJ, FBI, CIA - they control the FIVE EYES intelligencs group
4) A new bank

Then the corrupt pedo's lose

Starts from the Central Banks(IMF/BIS) to Intelligence agencies to Government  then the corruption hits the people

Remove threats
1) Saudi money - 11 princes
2) Nuclear threat - North Korea
3) False flag attacks (that is hard one to eliminate - oh Fake news narrative used against this)
4) US federal reserve (currently new laws in place to allow Private banks more leeway - competition)
5) Healthcare - Fraud exposed 72 doctors arrested

[RoomBot]

$50 rally in just the last one hour today.

[jbreher]

Are you really going to do a blockchain analysis to ensure that all of the UTXO in your wallet is not segwit tainted?

It's really not difficult if you're not continually churning. The vast majority of my BTC is offline, and I am completely positive that BTC is traceable back to coinbase tx fully free of segwit taint.

I have a token amount on exchange. I'm not particularly concerned about that.

[Last of the V8s]

Oh come on, you guuuys.
You do know Elvis assassinated John Lennon, not Princess Diana?
And the Pentagon devised Beanie Babies as a trial run for EOS
And don't even get me started on Stonehenge oho just happening to be 6666 miles from Machu Picchu
Open your eyes and smell the oh wait best not smell a.n.y.t.h.i.n.g

[becoin]

Bcashers are in panic mode. Usage of segwit addresses is growing exponentially while interest in bcash is drying up fast.

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Fucking dumb ass question but how do you know if your bitcoin’s are being held in a SegWit or Non SegWit address?

If the address begins with 1, they are definitely not Segwit coins.
If the address begins with 3, they are held in a P2sH address. They could be segwit or could just be a multisign address. If the private keys are under your control, you should know. Likely they are a segwit address since you would definitely know if you set up a multisig address since it involves a very complicated process to set up. If the private keys are under someone else's control, like an exchange or online wallet, you will need to research or ask.
If the address begins with bc1, it is definitely a segwit address.

Pretty sure all of my bitcoin’s are in addresses begginning with a 1
I will need to check this tonight
But yes I am the sole owner of every single private key.

It would have only become possible to move to a segwit address in about late August 2017... so any coins that have not been moved before that would be in legacy addresses by default.  There has been no automatic conversion to segwit addresses of legacy addresses (and I am not sure if such automatic conversion/movement would be possible).

one sure thing I don't have the will to understand this artificial shitshow, so imagine what noob feel about it? the dumb fuck jump, they don't care, and the other are lost facing such division. like an outsider watching the soft civil war in the usa... where pedo hillary and her friends are all immune from prosecution and cocaine users are hunted worst than jihadis terrorists, where kids are pumped with anti adhd or what ever crap the terrorists of the psychiatric institution decide to push after having lost the market of killing gays.
ps, thanks for your clarification...

Run to legacy addresses
Only bitcoiners no the real fear in not having legacy addresses
Always diversfiy your assets
Bitcoin is the weapon (why it was made)
Central Banks are the enemy
And you Soldier are the instrument to take down the criminal cabal


A tale of 2 worlds
Fairytale by mymenace

World 1
1) Obama becomes president 2008
2) Obama carries on Bush tradition
3) World gets worse

World 2
1) Fake president Obama elected
2) Release the Kraken (Bitcoin 2009)
3) Finished product complete 2010 (*Except for BitDNS - fast payment options) - Obama's CIA/NSA/FBI infiltrated forum board (RRRUUUUUNNN we know who is in power)

only world : people liberation army of china get an yuan equipment power 100x time western one. corrupt pedo in the west rally and try to divert from their crimes (flying jeffrey slave aircraft and vakay in the rape islands, beach or uk) and then are all killed.

btc is irrelevant

the iq of mudd or comey isn't a threat... it's more like little ants trying to open a door... they are dumber than rocks, their actual and past cic are all total coward who just like to be in the pussy of their bimbos.... little peons.

But bitcoin is relevant

You need tools to replace the old system

1) A new currency
2) A new Presidnet
3) A new DOJ, FBI, CIA - they control the FIVE EYES intelligencs group
4) A new bank

Then the corrupt pedo's lose

Starts from the Central Banks(IMF/BIS) to Intelligence agencies to Government  then the corruption hits the people

so true... and only by killing them and taking all they once believed to be theirs.

$50 rally in just the last one hour today.

woot woot far are the 1k day

Are you really going to do a blockchain analysis to ensure that all of the UTXO in your wallet is not segwit tainted?

It's really not difficult if you're not continually churning. The vast majority of my BTC is offline, and I am completely positive that BTC is traceable back to coinbase tx fully free of segwit taint.

I have a token amount on exchange. I'm not particularly concerned about that.

on exchange has to be accounted as lost .

Oh come on, you guuuys.
You do know Elvis assassinated John Lennon, not Princess Diana?
And the Pentagon devised Beanie Babies as a trial run for EOS
And don't even get me started on Stonehenge oho just happening to be 6666 miles from Machu Picchu
Open your eyes and smell the oh wait best not smell a.n.y.t.h.i.n.g

diana assassination... has so much to do with the pedo, she really loved all children what or where ever they were from. I can image how andrew felt seeing her...

Bcashers are in panic mode. Usage of segwit addresses is growing exponentially while interest in bcash is drying up fast.

will see who will have the last laugh... one bug in your mighty segwit, one censored tx and it's gone  #vladoogesture .

[Ibian]

Oh come on, you guuuys.
You do know Elvis assassinated John Lennon, not Princess Diana?
And the Pentagon devised Beanie Babies as a trial run for EOS
And don't even get me started on Stonehenge oho just happening to be 6666 miles from Machu Picchu
Open your eyes and smell the oh wait best not smell a.n.y.t.h.i.n.g

What part of your psyche are you trying to protect?

Genuinely curious.

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Oh come on, you guuuys.
You do know Elvis assassinated John Lennon, not Princess Diana?
And the Pentagon devised Beanie Babies as a trial run for EOS
And don't even get me started on Stonehenge oho just happening to be 6666 miles from Machu Picchu
Open your eyes and smell the oh wait best not smell a.n.y.t.h.i.n.g

What part of your psyche are you trying to protect?

Genuinely curious.

none, but the reverse is true. all your service and sacrifices were based on lies. will you be strong enough to see it? I don't know... it's your life.

[Rosewater Foundation]

Oh come on, you guuuys.
You do know Elvis assassinated John Lennon, not Princess Diana?
And the Pentagon devised Beanie Babies as a trial run for EOS
And don't even get me started on Stonehenge oho just happening to be 6666 miles from Machu Picchu
Open your eyes and smell the oh wait best not smell a.n.y.t.h.i.n.g

What part of your psyche are you trying to protect?

Genuinely curious.

Have you stopped beating your wife?

[B1tUnl0ck3r]

Oh come on, you guuuys.
You do know Elvis assassinated John Lennon, not Princess Diana?
And the Pentagon devised Beanie Babies as a trial run for EOS
And don't even get me started on Stonehenge oho just happening to be 6666 miles from Machu Picchu
Open your eyes and smell the oh wait best not smell a.n.y.t.h.i.n.g

What part of your psyche are you trying to protect?

Genuinely curious.

Have you stopped beating your wife?

he prefer to beat the children of others people before disolving them with acid in his jakuzi bath tube he bought with our tax fiat... that he got because he was silent on all the other rapes.