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[Anon136]

This is why americucks hate the fed.
Should've bought cryptos instead of the college meme.
USA is now world series of povos.

College tends to be a good investment, because it is investing into yourself.  Of course, if you can figure out better ways to invest in yourself, then that can work, too.

Debt is never a good investment, unless you have a really solid plan for making money off the debt. How useful is multicultural basket weaving in the current economy?

When you take out a loan to purchase capital you can incorporate that liability and asset and insulate your person from losses in excess of the value of the capital. When you take out a loan to "invest in yourself" you can not do this. It makes it one of the most dangerous ways to borrow and invest in expected increased future productivity.

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[Last of the V8s]

all bcashists i've come across out and out lie.

Offense taken. I try not to lie. At least not in a non-humorous vein. Admittedly, I have on occasion been shown to be incorrect. I think I've mea culpa'd all such occasions.

Unless, of course, you have proof of the converse?

You lied about how nodes work when you were fighting with Lauda and that lot during all the XT days and onwards. Under the pretext of difference of opinion, but you are not that stupid just to be mistaken. It was a deliberate attack based on falsehood, summed up by 'the miners decide'.

I did not. Put up or shut up.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1915733.msg19064080#msg19064080
all your own quotes here are examples of your dishonest communications
dread to think what you haven't highlighted

[Last of the V8s]

Bears are trolling us.



with reason. empty space below 6480


https://www.tradingview.com/x/i3QeB4NY/

[JayJuanGee]

$6000 - $7000 feels like 2015 when we were stuck in a price range for a significant time, I think it was $150 - $300.

Does anybody have a feeling we could still be in the $6000 - $7000 range before breaking upwards violently towards the end of 2018?

You could say this is an accumulation phase.

everyone's still crazy bullish and engaged compared to that phase. that was real boredom and indifference by that point.

To me, it still seems that there is way more participation in this thread (this thread is more active now) than it had been in mid 2015.  A lot of thread activity dried up in early 2015 and continued through the year, and likely did not really pick up until mid-to-late 2016.

[Rosewater Foundation]

This place was cactus land, it's true. This is nothing like that.

[JayJuanGee]

I will admit that Roger ...

There is a bit of a strange overlap with his supposed concept of wanting decentralization, but wanting to have veto power, too...

OK, I'll bite. What is this 'veto power' of which you speak?

It is a concept that Roger Ver does not want to participate unless he gets his way.  He seems to have psychological problems, even though he frequently presents well, as long as you do not say something that causes him to become defensive (which is not difficult to accomplish with his frequently noticed thin skin sensitivities).

Yes, I understand that he is just one person, therefore, it is not a BIG deal, but anyhow, emotional self-centeredness seems to be a central personality trait of his - and your desire to defend him and craig wright seems to show that you have either inabilities to recognize such realities, or that you have some other bias, such as being paid or too influenced by your investment in that direction (which is perhaps the picture that you want us to believe that you have BIG blocker investments but even you do not seem that dumb in spite of your ongoing desire to defend and to propagate such BIG blocker nutjob ideas).

[Last of the V8s]

This place was cactus land, it's true. This is nothing like that.

Wasn't there also that other thread at the time, Gold Collapsing, Bitcoin Up? It had occasional grown-up on and off-topic discussion ( amongst the scamming and stuff ). Nowadays this thread seems to have taken on both ( all 3 ) functions - price discussion, bitcoin ramblings, scamming-and-stuff.

[JayJuanGee]

This is why americucks hate the fed.
Should've bought cryptos instead of the college meme.
USA is now world series of povos.

College tends to be a good investment, because it is investing into yourself.  Of course, if you can figure out better ways to invest in yourself, then that can work, too.

Debt is never a good investment, unless you have a really solid plan for making money off the debt. How useful is multicultural basket weaving in the current economy?

Debt is a good investment when you are investing into yourself rather than some depreciating good.

In regards to something like education, you may well not know what you do not know, and therefore, sometimes you may not be able to figure out how you will be able to pay back the debt, but if you do not invest into something like education when you are young, then you are likely to lead a life of ignorance and stupidity, and falsely thinking that you understand things that are out of your grasp, merely because you failed/refused to build a proper foundation.

So do the fuck what you like, but you are spreading bullshit ignorance if you are trying to boil education down to mere ability to make money off of it later in life.  Furthermore, regarding debt more specifically, there are ways to use and to leverage debt to be able to achieve prosperity and even social mobility (and understanding) in ways that you would not be able to achieve without such a tool(s).

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Debt is never a good investment, unless you have a really solid plan for making money off the debt. How useful is multicultural basket weaving in the current economy?

When you take out a loan to purchase capital you can incorporate that liability and asset and insulate your person from losses in excess of the value of the capital. When you take out a loan to "invest in yourself" you can not do this. It makes it one of the most dangerous ways to borrow and invest in expected increased future productivity.

Nonsense.

[Rosewater Foundation]

This place was cactus land, it's true. This is nothing like that.

Wasn't there also that other thread at the time, Gold Collapsing, Bitcoin Up? It had occasional grown-up on and off-topic discussion ( amongst the scamming and stuff ). Nowadays this thread seems to have taken on both ( all 3 ) functions - price discussion, bitcoin ramblings, scamming-and-stuff.

Also true. Cypherdoc and company. They started to BitcoinXT and everything went to shitstorm. We lost a lot of big brains during the purge.

[ccminer.net]

volumes at spot exchanges are very very low, while on that shitty CME are getting higher and higher!

Please folks let me understand this trend.

Are we facing a new super dump thanks to our dear CME trader friends, thant can keep dumping without owning BTC at all!!

https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equity-index/us-index/bitcoin_quotes_volume_voi.html#tradeDate=20180706

big dump is probably coming
cme volume is also tiny
the 2 might still be connected

Since CME got in the show the shit hit the fan!
I just hope they can close their paper trade or start to lose interest or whatever just get lost them and their price manipulation

[Ibian]

What do we think about the Trump balloon?

[bones261]

What do we think about the Trump balloon?

It hurts my eyes. Don't want to see Trump in only his underwear. 

[Ibian]

What do we think about the Trump balloon?

It hurts my eyes. Don't want to see Trump in only his underwear. 

This is a fair point.

[Last of the V8s]

What do we think about the Trump balloon?

It hurts my eyes. Don't want to see Trump in only his underwear.  

Would you have preferred to have seen Hillary like that?

[Ibian]

What do we think about the Trump balloon?

It hurts my eyes. Don't want to see Trump in only his underwear. 

Would you have preferred to have seen Hilary like that?

Another extremely fair point.

[Rosewater Foundation]

I guess the American president has a balloon now? I don't news much.

One thing that comes to mind about Trump is how anti-fragile he is from reputational harm. When you're assumed to be a decent human being gossip can be really damaging. When everybody thinks you're giant balloon, you are free from it.

Just a thought.

[Last of the V8s]

Garvin is rich
https://usethebitcoin.com/top-10-richest-bitcoin-owners/

[bones261]

What do we think about the Trump balloon?

It hurts my eyes. Don't want to see Trump in only his underwear.  

Would you have preferred to have seen Hillary like that?

No, the good people of London would have made her's with a pantsuit on.

[bones261]

Garvin is rich
https://usethebitcoin.com/top-10-richest-bitcoin-owners/

I thought the FBI already sold the Silk Road coins in auction.

[JayJuanGee]

Garvin is rich
https://usethebitcoin.com/top-10-richest-bitcoin-owners/

The article should be taken with a BIG ASS grain of salt.   Perhaps, we could consider the article to be a historical rendition of bitcoin holdings rather than any kind of accurate snapshot of current bitcoin holdings.

Two obvious errors is that FBI auctioned off all (or nearly all of silk road related coins) and the article does not even know how to spell Gavin Andresen's name.., and even the article admits that Gavin proclaims that he had already sold a lot of his BTC holdings (whether true or not, who knows? and the article author does not seem inclined to delve too deeply for any kind of factual accuracy in regards to reasonable current direct evidence or reasonable inferences).

Garvin is rich
https://usethebitcoin.com/top-10-richest-bitcoin-owners/

I thought the FBI already sold the Silk Road coins in auction.

Don't let easily knowable facts get in the way of a good article.