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[El duderino_]

Small price for belgium 3d place.... hazard kick’t one in also Nice ..... ok wordcup ended for me here No more spamming ;-)
Now Just new ATH and micgoossens is happy maybe take a few days-weeks-months or..... minutes ,seconds but whatever we get there and nobody knows the time frame BTC

[Torque]

bitcoin looks like it will jump for at least $100 in the next hours. $6500 would be neat

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[infofront]

So guys, after reading a bit aroud this incoming ETF thing, I didn't decided yet whether this event will pump or dump the price!

Plus it is not clear whether this time the application will be finally approved!

What do you think?

None of the previous attempts were successful so why would this one be any different?

I don’t forsee it gaining approval, no.
I do hope I’m wrong though because if it was approved I think the price would pump significantly.

It has a chance of approval because it is positioned as 'NOT for plebs' ETF and we all know that SEC only cares about that crowd.
Even with $6000 btc, each share in this ETF will cost $150,000.

Bingo. An ETF for retail investors would be summarily shot down. This ETF is for the wealthy. The SEC will not squander an opportunity to help the rich get richer.

It's the first step toward getting a retail ETF for the plebs approved. The wealthy elites need to be able to get in at the ground floor though, since that's where most of the money will be made. I'd expect the first pleb ETF to be approved when Bitcoin is at $50K+.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

So guys, after reading a bit aroud this incoming ETF thing, I didn't decided yet whether this event will pump or dump the price!

Plus it is not clear whether this time the application will be finally approved!

What do you think?

None of the previous attempts were successful so why would this one be any different?

I don’t forsee it gaining approval, no.
I do hope I’m wrong though because if it was approved I think the price would pump significantly.

It has a chance of approval because it is positioned as 'NOT for plebs' ETF and we all know that SEC only cares about that crowd.
Even with $6000 btc, each share in this ETF will cost $150,000.

Bingo. An ETF for retail investors would be summarily shot down. This ETF is for the wealthy. The SEC will not squander an opportunity to help the rich get richer.

It's the first step toward getting a retail ETF for the plebs approved. The wealthy elites need to be able to get in at the ground floor though, since that's where most of the money will be made. I'd expect the first pleb ETF to be approved when Bitcoin is at $50K+.

info - If the SEC approve an ETF tor the wealthy what effect do you think this would have on the price?

Give me numbers brother!

[Searing]

So guys, after reading a bit aroud this incoming ETF thing, I didn't decided yet whether this event will pump or dump the price!

Plus it is not clear whether this time the application will be finally approved!

What do you think?

None of the previous attempts were successful so why would this one be any different?

I don’t forsee it gaining approval, no.
I do hope I’m wrong though because if it was approved I think the price would pump significantly.

It has a chance of approval because it is positioned as 'NOT for plebs' ETF and we all know that SEC only cares about that crowd.
Even with $6000 btc, each share in this ETF will cost $150,000.

Bingo. An ETF for retail investors would be summarily shot down. This ETF is for the wealthy. The SEC will not squander an opportunity to help the rich get richer.

It's the first step toward getting a retail ETF for the plebs approved. The wealthy elites need to be able to get in at the ground floor though, since that's where most of the money will be made. I'd expect the first pleb ETF to be approved when Bitcoin is at $50K+.

info - If the SEC approve an ETF tor the wealthy what effect do you think this would have on the price?

Give me numbers brother!

it would not be numbers IMHO, or even the above 'limited' ETF,  it would be like when futures was approved and say, now the above approved 'rich folk' ETF etc.

Thus that 'movement' alone, towards regulation and moving forward, even if I could not afford the ETF,

would send the price higher for BTC, because we can still get in on that part of it! Remember 85% BTC has been mined, and getting damn hard to mine the rest!

At least for us that have/buy/use BTC. It would be an 'off to the races' signal IMHO. HODL would again be the new 'normal'.

[HairyMaclairy]

EOS raised more than a billion

Ever heard of the concept of buying the ICO from yourself so the issuer surreptitiously controls 80+% of the token supply?

The comment was intended sarcastically but this is the internet so the sentiment is poorly expressed without an /s tag.  I don’t doubt that the Chinese gambling ring valuation of $1 billion is as dubious. As dubious as the $900 million ascribed to Kylie Jenner who as far as I can tell has sold at most 300,000 make up kits @ $29.  Which is $8 million in revenue. Math is a fucky thing.

[JayJuanGee]

[edited out]

Jay, just put him on ignore. It’s likely anunymit on another ALT any way.

I don't put peeps on ignore, even when they are disingenuous shill/trolls.. or they are talking a bunch of gibble-dee-gook nonsense.   

[Raja_MBZ]

Hmm... ETF is all about "free monies":



https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-cboebzx-2018-040/cboebzx2018040.htm

[Traxo]

or they are talking a bunch of gibble-dee-gook nonsense.  

Seriously, how can you discern what is “gibble-dee-gook nonsense” when you don’t understand technological discussions because you’re not a domain expert in that field? Do you seriously expect that a domain expert can explain to a 5 year old the intricacies of Bitcoin’s Nash equilibrium and Schelling points along with the technological nuances intertwined therein. Ostensibly you just believe everything Core tells you as gospel. Do you also believe everything every expert tells you? Did you believe the lie of the climate scientists when they said that man caused global warming. Did you believe NIST when they said that WTC7 collapsed due to a model which has been hence proven to be implausible?

What if you’re wrong and everybody who followed your advice to ignore Shelby loses all their real Bitcoins? Are you going to apologize? Or run away forsaking your anonymous online identity? Shelby is not anonymous. You are.

[ivomm]

So guys, after reading a bit aroud this incoming ETF thing, I didn't decided yet whether this event will pump or dump the price!

Plus it is not clear whether this time the application will be finally approved!

What do you think?

None of the previous attempts were successful so why would this one be any different?

I don’t forsee it gaining approval, no.
I do hope I’m wrong though because if it was approved I think the price would pump significantly.

It has a chance of approval because it is positioned as 'NOT for plebs' ETF and we all know that SEC only cares about that crowd.
Even with $6000 btc, each share in this ETF will cost $150,000.

Bingo. An ETF for retail investors would be summarily shot down. This ETF is for the wealthy. The SEC will not squander an opportunity to help the rich get richer.

It's the first step toward getting a retail ETF for the plebs approved. The wealthy elites need to be able to get in at the ground floor though, since that's where most of the money will be made. I'd expect the first pleb ETF to be approved when Bitcoin is at $50K+.

I also think that because of this ETF will be approved. Moreover, SEC could have rejected it immediately like the previous requests, but instead it opened a comment page. As for the effect on the price, the expected reaction of the eventual approval will be 20%-ish pump followed by a steady growth until the ETF's start trading. The most conservative guess is by Dec to be in the zone of $18K. There are still some fears among buyers because of the current 7 month lasting bearish trend, so to break the $20K will be tough. However, we should not underestimate the significance of the $billions  to enter the bitcoin markets, so unlike the effect of the futures, I expect new ATH's next year.

[infofront]

So guys, after reading a bit aroud this incoming ETF thing, I didn't decided yet whether this event will pump or dump the price!

Plus it is not clear whether this time the application will be finally approved!

What do you think?

None of the previous attempts were successful so why would this one be any different?

I don’t forsee it gaining approval, no.
I do hope I’m wrong though because if it was approved I think the price would pump significantly.

It has a chance of approval because it is positioned as 'NOT for plebs' ETF and we all know that SEC only cares about that crowd.
Even with $6000 btc, each share in this ETF will cost $150,000.

Bingo. An ETF for retail investors would be summarily shot down. This ETF is for the wealthy. The SEC will not squander an opportunity to help the rich get richer.

It's the first step toward getting a retail ETF for the plebs approved. The wealthy elites need to be able to get in at the ground floor though, since that's where most of the money will be made. I'd expect the first pleb ETF to be approved when Bitcoin is at $50K+.

info - If the SEC approve an ETF tor the wealthy what effect do you think this would have on the price?

Give me numbers brother!

Maybe something like this:


If ETF is approved in late Aug, that couldl trigger a bull run that could take us to the top of the channel by the end of the year. I'll say $50K, conservatively. $60K+ if things get really crazy and manic.

Taking a look at another logarithmic chart by a reputable analyst, masterluc, if we bounce to the top of his middle channel by the end of the year, that would be  ~$60K.

[yefi]

Shit. There was me thinking I was too succinct to ever be multi-quoted.

[JayJuanGee]

are bots allowed in this forum? We need a bot to report if the mempool reaches a critical predefined level. bob does a good job but he has to sleep at least 8 hours per day. so we need a bobbot.

Bots are allowed, so long as they aren't spammy or malicious.

Part of me really wants to learn how to write bots for these forums; start monitoring my node mempool activity stats, and start barking out posts upon an x% rise over y time.

Or learn how to query market APIs, learn how to use graphing libraries, and spit out graphic posts, but, TBH, my IT/Network/Coding past is behind me.

I want to pursue artistic passions.

Bitcoin/Lightning related matters keep me limber enough - staying up-to-date with tech - so as not to completely atrophy those skills. Fucking around with the official LND release now after upgrading my Bitcoin node from 16.0 to 16.1. Haven't built bitcoind from source, with support for esoteric libraries, in quite a long time.

I will write such a bot and publish my bad code. stay tuned

edit: well, I stumbled over my first problem. login requires a captcha test where the bot has to prove it's not a bot, haha
most likely it's possible to login in manually the first time and copy the cookie, I have to try that.

I like the idea of an actual productive bot.

I am sure that there are a few bots that are already here, but those bots probably don't give "bot setting up" advice.  Not in their current programming.

[Raja_MBZ]

@infofront How do you think alts would react to ETF approval? Won't bitcoin's dominance increase further, if it happens?

[Last of the V8s]

@infofront what is the meaning of existence?
@infofront how do i get a woman?
@infofront is the mayor your bot-boy?
@infofront sir when moon lambo syscoin?
@infofront have you ever seen the rain?

[gentlemand]

@infofront How do you think alts would react to ETF approval? Won't bitcoin's dominance increase further, if it happens?

The ETF rejection is what started the alt mega run. ETH immediately went to the stars and took everything with it.

If that ETF had passed alts would've taken a monster shit.

This time around I assume people would pile in with applications for alt ETFs if the SolidX one passed, but I don't think it will pass so it's a non speculation.

[El duderino_]

So guys, after reading a bit aroud this incoming ETF thing, I didn't decided yet whether this event will pump or dump the price!

Plus it is not clear whether this time the application will be finally approved!

What do you think?

None of the previous attempts were successful so why would this one be any different?

I don’t forsee it gaining approval, no.
I do hope I’m wrong though because if it was approved I think the price would pump significantly.

It has a chance of approval because it is positioned as 'NOT for plebs' ETF and we all know that SEC only cares about that crowd.
Even with $6000 btc, each share in this ETF will cost $150,000.

Bingo. An ETF for retail investors would be summarily shot down. This ETF is for the wealthy. The SEC will not squander an opportunity to help the rich get richer.

It's the first step toward getting a retail ETF for the plebs approved. The wealthy elites need to be able to get in at the ground floor though, since that's where most of the money will be made. I'd expect the first pleb ETF to be approved when Bitcoin is at $50K+.

info - If the SEC approve an ETF tor the wealthy what effect do you think this would have on the price?

Give me numbers brother!

Maybe something like this:


If ETF is approved in late Aug, that couldl trigger a bull run that could take us to the top of the channel by the end of the year. I'll say $50K, conservatively. $60K+ if things get really crazy and manic.

Taking a look at another logarithmic chart by a reputable analyst, masterluc, if we bounce to the top of his middle channel by the end of the year, that would be  ~$60K.

Don’t know what more crazy shit i could do ..... but breaking those priceses than i need to find something 

[El duderino_]

@infofront what is the meaning of existence?
@infofront how do i get a woman?
@infofront is the mayor your bot-boy?
@infofront sir when moon lambo syscoin?
@infofront have you ever seen the rain?

And Yes syscoin???  lol

[gembitz]

@infofront what is the meaning of existence?
@infofront how do i get a woman?
@infofront is the mayor your bot-boy?
@infofront sir when moon lambo syscoin?
@infofront have you ever seen the rain?

And Yes syscoin???  lol

syscoin ann'ed same board as bti/instant .. um what me worry? =) noobs<<<

[JayJuanGee]

Oh?  So you are going to pick up the Shelby (anunymint) slack to inform us about something of substance?  Or you just want to defend a troll?  Aka banned person?  By the way, if you have arguments that are really technical in nature, then you might want to present them in another thread.. If you want to spread some unsubstantiated and confusing claims like anunymint was presenting, then maybe you will find yourself in a similar fate, as him?

You’re an expert troll. Kudos.

Your repetitively asserting such is not going to make it true - and how much credibility do you have, actually - especially, when you continue to post nonsense..... right?   And, your ongoing failure and refusal to attempt to provide any kind of substance rather than personal attacks and status assertions, seems to demonstrate that you have no real intention to provide meaningful substance in your posts.