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Question: When will we see a new ATH? (Credit to: Biodom)
2019 - 14 (8.9%)
Early 2020 - 34 (21.7%)
Late 2020 - 47 (29.9%)
Early 2021 - 14 (8.9%)
Late 2021 - 25 (15.9%)
2022 - 4 (2.5%)
2023 - 0 (0%)
2024 - 4 (2.5%)
After 2024 - 3 (1.9%)
Never - 12 (7.6%)
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July 08, 2018, 05:52:55 PM


One came just a few minutes ago. Just bad luck.

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July 08, 2018, 06:00:12 PM

If you test all possible combinations before finding a block. Best case, you immediately find it, worst case you find it on the last combination, average, you will find the block in about half the time of the maximum.

But no single miner searches all possible combinations by itself and as far as I know there is no decided range of combinations tested by each pool so different pools may end up testing the same combinations. and different pools include different transactions so operate in a different search space. This means that the upper limit is a lot higher than twice the average block time.

Random results do included things humans don't find random at all. 100 slow blocks in a row is less likely that 10 slow blocks in a row, but not impossible.
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July 08, 2018, 06:05:20 PM

https://github.com/jlopp/physical-bitcoin-attacks/blob/master/README.md
note the guy on Apr 11 is the only bitcoiner to successfully defend himself
get guns. get dogs. and


My cat's been out of the bag for a while now. I spent 2 days in the hoosegow about it. Never discuss Bitcorn with a normal. Never.
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July 08, 2018, 06:07:39 PM

So price wise, is this going deeper or are we out of the dark? I personally think that we will go and test prices around 3xxx, where it should bounce back up. Again, no real TA behind it, just my own prediction based on different articles and stuff.

Would like to hear what TA specialists have to say about this. And maybe throw us some graphs.
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July 08, 2018, 06:12:24 PM

On the Bitcoinwisdom daily chart, it looks like a bullish MA crossover is in place - can anyone with any expertise confirm. 

I am far from an expert, and it feels too early to be optimistic, but I will take any optimistic gloss anyone with the right tint on their spectacles can see.

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July 08, 2018, 06:21:00 PM
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p(10mn) = probability to find a block in slot 0-10mn = 1/2
p(20mn) = p(slot 10mn-20mn) = 1/4 ( = 1/2 coz not found previously * 1/2 coz found in this 10mn slot)
p(30mn) = 1/8 (= 1/2 * 1/2 * 1/2)
p(40mn) = 1/16
p(50mn) = 1/32
p(1 hour) = 1/64

so probability to "not find a block in one hour" = 1/64 ~ 0.01562 .. could happen a couple of times a day
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July 08, 2018, 06:47:15 PM


it is a good scene as many in that movie ...... just when talking about belgium and mayonaise ...., o the bad motherfucker wallet scene the dancing its just a f****** awsome movie
from start- middle- to end  Grin

On Tuesday and Wednesday both our national teams are one game away from a World Cup final.  It is a once-in-a-lifetime chance for a player to become a hero for all time.  We still worship our 1966 team from more than half a century ago, everyone knows the commentary,. the team, the goalscorers, the goalkeeper from a young age.

I wish you victory against the French and if we beat the Croats, see you in the final, Mic - where history will be made. 

I am sure you and your country are just as excited as we are.  Good luck!

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Thx fingers crossed to make the finals

ONLY big problem my girl booked out flight to Mallorca This tuesday.... i Will mis half the game  Undecided
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July 08, 2018, 06:57:15 PM

So price wise, is this going deeper or are we out of the dark? I personally think that we will go and test prices around 3xxx, where it should bounce back up. Again, no real TA behind it, just my own prediction based on different articles and stuff.

Would like to hear what TA specialists have to say about this. And maybe throw us some graphs.

No amount of TA is gonna help in the next 2 months, watch your fundamentals
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July 08, 2018, 06:59:50 PM

On the Bitcoinwisdom daily chart, it looks like a bullish MA crossover is in place - can anyone with any expertise confirm. 

I am far from an expert, and it feels too early to be optimistic, but I will take any optimistic gloss anyone with the right tint on their spectacles can see.



I'm not an expert either, but the 200ma is still far from the 50ma.
A gold cross is a bullish signal in the frames of larger times.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/goldencross.asp

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July 08, 2018, 07:11:16 PM

On the Bitcoinwisdom daily chart, it looks like a bullish MA crossover is in place - can anyone with any expertise confirm. 

I am far from an expert, and it feels too early to be optimistic, but I will take any optimistic gloss anyone with the right tint on their spectacles can see.



I'm not an expert either, but the 200ma is still far from the 50ma.
A gold cross is a bullish signal in the frames of larger times.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/goldencross.asp



Yep it seems we could go up to 8500-9000 and it still be a bull trap.
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July 08, 2018, 07:13:40 PM

I will admit that Roger ...

There is a bit of a strange overlap with his supposed concept of wanting decentralization, but wanting to have veto power, too...

OK, I'll bite. What is this 'veto power' of which you speak?

It is a concept that Roger Ver does not want to participate unless he gets his way.  

So to you, withdrawing from participation is 'veto power'. Do you have such 'veto power', JJG? Do you believe the desire to be able to remove yourself from an undesired situation is somehow aberrational?

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- and your desire to defend him and craig wright ...

I don't have any desire to defend Roger or CSW. You seem to be conflating these personalities with BCH -- a common small blocker delusion. Sure, I correct stated untruths regarding these folk, but that is defending the truth, not the personalities themselves.


Who would Roger help in the MTGox Hack

Who would Roger help in the big block debate

Who would Roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin

Who did Roger know at Butterfly Labs Asic miners

Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,

Why is Roger at the center of it all

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July 08, 2018, 07:14:47 PM
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the trend is down until it isn't
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July 08, 2018, 07:23:39 PM

I will admit that Roger ...

There is a bit of a strange overlap with his supposed concept of wanting decentralization, but wanting to have veto power, too...

OK, I'll bite. What is this 'veto power' of which you speak?

It is a concept that Roger Ver does not want to participate unless he gets his way.  

So to you, withdrawing from participation is 'veto power'. Do you have such 'veto power', JJG? Do you believe the desire to be able to remove yourself from an undesired situation is somehow aberrational?

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- and your desire to defend him and craig wright ...

I don't have any desire to defend Roger or CSW. You seem to be conflating these personalities with BCH -- a common small blocker delusion. Sure, I correct stated untruths regarding these folk, but that is defending the truth, not the personalities themselves.


Who would Roger help in the MTGox Hack

Who would Roger help in the big block debate

Who would Roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin

Who did Roger know at Butterfly Labs Asic miners

Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,

Why is Roger at the center of it all



Yep we know why they want bitcoin dead

Or you could just connect the dots...Wikileaks...Bitcoin Blockchain...Silk Road Operations...

Wikileaks and BTC blockchain... how are they connected?

You can write on the blockchain

Wikileaks has put evidence on the blockchain

https://medium.com/blockchain-education-network/how-to-write-stuff-on-the-blockchain-bdae1704f24d


How wikileaks was first involved in bitcoin
At the time satoshi disappeared, wikileaks announced it was using bitcoin as paypal had terminated their account
Satoshi did not want any undue attention and disappeared

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July 08, 2018, 07:24:42 PM

8500 would be a break of the medium term bearish trend.   That'd be enough for people to be bullish I think, quite significant.   

The standard moving average would be 50 day and 200 day.    Bitcoin isnt a stock so I'm not sure about a golden rule but some investment operations would only examine stocks trading over a 200 day average, apparently its a requirement for some and since everyone else in the market is smaller then billion dollar investment trusts we tend to follow in their wake.   
For Bitcoin I do not know if we should look that strictly at MA, its just a measure of momentum I think.

Theres nothing bullish in MA for daily long term that I see.  I think we are all speculating on a turn around situation which is harder.   The trusts trade certainities and market right could yield nice gains upwards but also its risky.   So I was tracking 4hr 50MA as a loose fit to positive movement since April thats just a weekly measure, about 8 DMA.



So yea that marked the bottom pricing recently, we could still call this positive but I would describe this as looking like a stepladder fallen over.   Its a bit stalled, no longer in the channel I drew in.

Someone called out 6800 as the tide mark or resistance a while back, its basically held that line for now.    I'm not certain on calling it as accumulating to move upwards or not
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July 08, 2018, 07:28:39 PM

the trend is down until it isn't

Spoken wisely
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July 08, 2018, 07:35:34 PM
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Mmm Nice sunday recovery Just like BTC is doing @the moment
Keep Going up without stopping thx
New ATH’s to make..... new hodlers to test , new whatever bitcoin needs to conquor , Just keep the crypto world Going and all is fine  Grin
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July 08, 2018, 08:10:34 PM

OT : Holy mother of the gods this is bad.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XopSDJq6w8E

Were Chinese 'ghost' cities ever meant to have even been used?? Or just a place for excess capital spending and malinvestment to go (i.e., built just for show)? This looks like the mother of all ponzi real estate investment schemes.
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July 08, 2018, 08:21:12 PM

https://github.com/jlopp/physical-bitcoin-attacks/blob/master/README.md
note the guy on Apr 11 is the only bitcoiner to successfully defend himself
get guns. get dogs. and


My cat's been out of the bag for a while now. I spent 2 days in the hoosegow about it. Never discuss Bitcorn with a normal. Never.

Can you explain what you mean? What is a "hoosegow" and how precisely did talking about bitcoin to normies lead to you spending 2 days inside of one?
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July 08, 2018, 08:32:07 PM
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hoosegow=jail

the clink, the big house, inside, the lockup, county, doing time, Santa Rita Weekend

kapiche?
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hoosegow=jail

the clink, the big house, inside, the lockup, county, doing time

kapiche?

Well, kapiche on half of the question.
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