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July 11, 2018, 07:50:11 PM

Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you 

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT
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July 11, 2018, 07:52:18 PM

Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you  

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT

I hope the pedo player of the pedo dungeon (england) the country who jailed dankula and his dog, the girl who wrote shit, tommy robinson who denounced rape gangs... LOSE

but I guess, they anglos, like most of you... so you are like them and have support them.

fuck england and it's supporter.

you are all with the pedos.
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July 11, 2018, 07:54:35 PM

Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you  

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT

I hope the pedo player of the pedo dungeon (england) the country who jailed dankula and his dog, the girl who wrote shit, tommy robinson who denounced rape gangs... LOSE

but I guess, they anglos, like most of you... so you are like them and have support them.

fuck england and it's supporter.

you are all with the pedos.


Wtf think Just sport and players ....... idiot
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July 11, 2018, 07:55:56 PM
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see we had a bit of a dip, all the way down to where we were over a week ago...$6393USD/$8390CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Why does this always seem (lately) to happen when I'm short on cash to buy more coins?

I can't bitch though. It's only money and I'm not impoverished quite yet.

maybe it doesn't go down to 3xxx levels after all Smiley

That 3xxx nonsense is just wishful thinking by people who missed the boat (or panic sold at the bottom) and desperately want the price to go down.

That 3xxx nonsense is something that you just can't dismiss outright. Sure we all want the price to go over the moon. Possibly even higher. But there's no denying we're in a strong bear market right now. There's every chance that it will go down.

Well, ofcourse I'm wishing it to dip to 3xxx levels to get some cheap coins, but I'll buy some more anyways whatever the price. And I'm too scared to sell anything in this market, just buying.


It does not hurt to sell a bit, depending on how the matter plays out.

For example:  Let's use some round numbers and say that you have about 10 Bitcoins in your stash, and you have about $6,300.  You also might have a bit of a cash flow of $200 per month extra that you can put into your bitcoin fiat stash.  

In this case, when the price went down to $5,800, you may have bought somewhere between $500 and $1,000, which might be a reasonable and suitable purchase based on your total holdings.  Therefore when the price goes up, you might decide to sell in increments of $500 or something like that - selling $50 or $100 at $6,500, $7k, $7,500, $8k - and with the amount that you bought and the hypothetical increments that I provided you would be able to sell in 10 increments, which would take your sales up to $11,500 - before you would run out of money from that one purchase... And, don't tell me that you will not have opportunities to buy some of that back again between here and $11,500.

Of course, you can employ some other variation of such an incrementalist plan and still be able to reasonably 1) sell some small amounts of BTC at these prices, 2) to prepare yourself to buy (if the price falls between here and $11,500), which seems quite likely) and 3) because of your already existing stash also keeping yourself prepared for further upside BTC prices, if they happen by shooting beyond $11,500 (which is a real pie in the sky scenario because one of the most certainties in bitcoin is that we are likely to experience quite a few corrections along the way, even when we are experiencing an exponential up period).

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maybe it doesn't go down to 3xxx levels after all Smiley

That 3xxx nonsense is just wishful thinking by people who missed the boat (or panic sold at the bottom) and desperately want the price to go down.

That 3xxx nonsense is something that you just can't dismiss outright. Sure we all want the price to go over the moon. Possibly even higher. But there's no denying we're in a strong bear market right now. There's every chance that it will go down.
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Well, ofcourse I'm wishing it to dip to 3xxx levels to get some cheap coins, but I'll buy some more anyways whatever the price. And I'm too scared to sell anything in this market, just buying.

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Yes, I made that mistake once and never again. Of course after you miss out on 500X profit you missed the train and it ain't never coming back.
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Even in bitcoin, it has tended to take a long fucking time for 500x profits to play out, so if you are into bitcoin and you attempt to accumulate, even if you screw up a lot, you still should be able to get a decent amount of that 500x increases, if you error on the side of largely holding and attempting to accumulate in reasonable (rather than gambling) ways.

Even, since I have been in Bitcoin (which is since late 2013), the best case scenarios are buying around $150 and selling $19,666 (which would be around 130x), and of course you could trade BTC to bring your ratio up, but I just don't think that it is practical to expect average folks to be able to get that high in their returns or even engaging in a kind of pure purchasing and selling at the top and bottom would result in such an average of 130x, which does not seem realistic, even if it could happen in outlying cases.

Even having an overall return rate of 10x in this current market seems like a good play.. which would be average costs per BTC around $630 when the current price is $6,300 - but even if your costs are above $1,000, you might consider yourself as in a very decent place, right now.

From here, another 10x, would put prices at $63k and 100x would be at $630k, and neither of those are unreasonable, even though it could take 1 year to 10 years to play out.. perhaps 1 year, just to break into the range - even though it is also possible (but seeming quite unlikely, currently) that BTC could break into new ATHs by this calendar year.

I guess that part of my point is that there are few BTC folks sitting in 500x profits, and striving for such may be a bit unrealistic, because there are quite a few ways to plan your entry points into BTC while providing yourself with decent chances to retain and maintain a BTC portfolio that is quite a bit more good chances of profitable than many other investments (perhaps even the vast majority of other possible investments)
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July 11, 2018, 08:00:26 PM

Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you  

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT

I hope the pedo player of the pedo dungeon (england) the country who jailed dankula and his dog, the girl who wrote shit, tommy robinson who denounced rape gangs... LOSE

but I guess, they anglos, like most of you... so you are like them and have support them.

fuck england and it's supporter.

you are all with the pedos.


Wtf think Just sport and players ....... idiot

at least the Croats are all Croats...

Wtf it is 8100 right now what is happening there?

WEX currently has 20% withdrawal fees on USD and EUR, after they removed a few offramps. It was normal until last week, then slowly went to 9%, then 15%, then 20% today.

Notice that as withdrawal fees approach 100%, everything will moon. May or may not be a wexit scam after the exchange may or may not have been sold.

so many new exchanges have popped up... there will be a big elimination coming... trust the old ones, those who never been hacked and let the suckers do the debugging and join the quest for the best DEX.
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July 11, 2018, 08:01:35 PM

Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you 

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT

Fake the breakdown then ... moon.
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July 11, 2018, 08:02:33 PM

Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you 

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT

Fake the breakdown then ... moon.

Croats play without mercenaries... do you think all those expats would play for england if nigeria was 10x richer? I don't. they are just mercs, sport mercs.

go croatia... at least a real national team.
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July 11, 2018, 08:06:31 PM

and again, one of those merc (no 19) from england behave badly... what the fuck with those sport mercs...

japan team, all japanese... same for most nations but a few...

gooooo croatia !!!

those pedo brits are the just second in dishonesty... american being the kings of deceit universe wide.
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July 11, 2018, 08:08:31 PM

Belgium biggest mix of players paid almost nothing So...... wtf Born belgium raised like belgiums speak belgium act belgium So all belgiums in that team  Wink
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July 11, 2018, 08:09:51 PM

Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you 

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT

Fake the breakdown then ... moon.

Croats play without mercenaries... do you think all those expats would play for england if nigeria was 10x richer? I don't. they are just mercs, sport mercs.

go croatia... at least a real national team.

Stop equating some mindless football game with politics, shut the fuck up and enjoy the game.
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July 11, 2018, 08:16:26 PM

Common Kane put one in before extra time please thank you 

God I hope so if only just to end it. But really Croatia are running rings round England.

Yeah Engeland needed to make the second goal for more comfort, but still they Will win iT

Fake the breakdown then ... moon.

Croats play without mercenaries... do you think all those expats would play for england if nigeria was 10x richer? I don't. they are just mercs, sport mercs.

go croatia... at least a real national team.

Stop equating some mindless football game with politics, shut the fuck up and enjoy the game.

enjoy games? yeah plebian keep your fun and drink a few breed with gaz (beers) for me...

cheers.

Belgium biggest mix of players paid almost nothing So...... wtf Born belgium raised like belgiums speak belgium act belgium So all belgiums in that team  Wink

the day nigeria has better social safety net and job opportunities, the belgian team will be all white again... you can bet on it. safe 100% certain.
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July 11, 2018, 08:17:33 PM

Croatia has pretty decent looking women, apparently.

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July 11, 2018, 08:19:15 PM

^^
Not So Many Black Guy’s on the Squad Just a Nice solid mix in the golden team and Why not......
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July 11, 2018, 08:19:27 PM

Bitcoin’s price is really hard with the 6000$-6400$ Mark for a month now  more and more again are legalizing the use of bitcoin to their country will this be another pump again?
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July 11, 2018, 08:19:32 PM

This is seriously the most boring season of Bitcorn I've lived through.

At least I was a miner previously to keep things exciting.

Maybe I should tune out until 2020 or something...

My gut tells me we're not going to end this year higher than we did last.

did futures really tame bitcoin? come on honey badger, wake up!

Nope
 The bubble burst did. And it's not tamed, it's been dragged into an alley and had the shit kicked out of it.

Now it's groaning in a corner until a garbage truck runs it over in the morning.

That's hilarious, except I disbelieve the part about the "garbage truck running over" future.

I do believe that BTC currently is in a beaten up state though, and how badly, and how well it will recover remain answers to questions that will play out in the coming months.
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Croatia has pretty decent looking women, apparently.



please don't show that picture to the girls of madeleine albright or barbara spectre lerner :

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Clinton-era Secretary of State Madeleine Albright has slammed U.S. efforts to secure the border, telling the BBC that the immigration policy of President Donald J. Trump “makes it very hard for America to tell Europeans … to be more humane”

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Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies [sic] that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive

note that she tries to attach jews to her plan... very very vicious ladies.

because then they will want to send their rape armies to finish them of.

remember them.
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July 11, 2018, 08:25:34 PM

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July 11, 2018, 08:26:40 PM
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Hi there,

on crypto twitter are few days that some folks are excited about the possibility of BTC to being approved by ETF or something like that.

Folks are excited because this time the application has been submitted by CBOE that is a huge actor, and they think that because of this this time the application will be not rejected, like last time.

I'm a bit scared because since CBOE launched their features the price didnt go anywhere but down.

Please let me understand why this time will be different and why it is a good news for BTC

"Buy the news, sell the facts". The news of the incoming futures was the main reason to see the rise from 7K to 20K. After the futures started trading, even the most ignorant traders understood that futures are not related to buying bitcoins and started selling. Similarly, if ETF is approved, this will motivate the traders to buy, but this time everyone will know that ETF's are in a trillion market and directly related to buying of Bitcoins.
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