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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 2 (1.8%)
<$6,500 - 7 (6.1%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.9%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.8%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.6%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (5.3%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3.5%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (10.5%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (11.4%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 6 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (5.3%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (9.6%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 10 (8.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 9 (7.9%)
>$9,500 - 15 (13.2%)
$20,000 - 7 (6.1%)
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Bitcorn. Looks like she be wantin' ta grow in the right direction again.

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Um... Like I'll be accepting an IOU piece of paper to represent bitcoin. It was done on metals but I'm not so sure the people are that gullible for the same trick.  Its interesting to see how ICE wants a piece of the pie. They sure as hell wont send my money to anything crypto related as I found out a couple weeks ago while trying. Ha Bullish!

It already happens, though - when you short (as I am sure people here do on occasion), as you 'borrow' Bitcoin to sell.   The Exchange credits or debits accordingly - but the numbers are in a database, no coins are in your personal wallet under your private key.   It's not a big step for an institution to 'lend' coins it has custody over, or lend them twice and for these coins to have more than one owner.  Some exchanges have done this before and some probably still do.  Not all the people want all their bitcoins back at once, so there are always some spare in the cold wallet.

Yes, you or I will always want to have our coins under our own key.  It has always been essential for us to do so.

But other investors would probably rather not.  Institutions can just 'credit your account' with Bitcoin they do not actually have, as banks do with fiat all the time - thus increasing the supply of Bitcoin out there (on paper).  ICE and Bakkt will be custodians of people's coins (how nice of them) and the ability of them to 'use' the coins to make money by rehypothecating them will be part of their business model.

You may not be gullible, but if others accept paper custodianship, then Bitcoins can be rehypothecated and (more) Bitcoins will be bought and sold that do not exist.  ICE are big enough to do this in a much bigger way and the market for Bitcoin may well become just like all the other markets.

And there will be far, far more bitcoins being traded out there than actually exist.
Surely this is a hypothetically scary scenario and we're all familiar how it happened with fiat but we just witnessed exactly this happen with an exchange last week no?  The losses were passed on to customers as I recall.  Since bitcoin has a degree of transparency in audit, if the people ever get whiff of far, far more fakecoin being traded it would create a run on the exchanges and the shady players would be outed.  I think futures are the first attempt at exploring this scenario.  I say let them try. I believe this will inevitably only reinforce one of the key fundamentals of BTC Its TRUST-LESS!  No doubt there may be many fooled along the way until this is understood.  

The thing is, they can't print new BTC like they can print new dollars, so this would surely end bad... most likely for the users.
And as I think you said, even if they can borrow non-existing dollars and send you these, the bank will accept them; But a wallet won't accept non-existing BTC.
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Here's my observation on the current price trend of Bitcoin:

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August 15, 2018, 03:38:54 PM

roach & mymenace in their absolute element trolling today. Good thing I took precautions a while back.



 

Surrounded and outnumbered. Smiley


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life still the same ....-playing poker as today (only very short session by to much  headbanging complaining ......)
                              -still going on many dinner evenings
                              - still saturday evening dinner and BOOZe
                              -^with sunday sober up day , and premier league football and greasy food
                              -still weekly going to the movie's as seeing manie serie's and movie's @ home
                              -still every day (6of 7) work out.....
                              -still reading WO threat
                               -........
                               -........
                               -And so on ......................

All of my routines still the same THATS HOW HODLERS ROLL     keep on hodling keeping the patience keep leading the same hodling life

only when possible buying DIPS and getting that personal BTC nr UP  Grin

Got a room for the next few nights myself. Smiley

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7215388/ https://youtu.be/oQGpdgV_ifI
An unsettling and eye-opening Wall Street horror story about Chinese companies, the American stock market, and the opportunistic greed behind the biggest heist you've never heard of.
Lots of parallels to crypto shenanigans

Yup, that was definitely worth the watch.

Link for you over-extended guys.

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"Handlers?"  Are you on acid?

In other news, John McAfee may be in trouble again!

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 https://cointelegraph.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2c088712615955cd2f82aa968&id=12245a19b2&e=7eb2735572
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Here's my observation on the current price trend of Bitcoin:
https://media.giphy.com/media/10aLCFuDxjEAN2/giphy.gif

That's one strange lookin' honey-badger carrying a couple brothers.
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Yawn. Still sideways.

Meanwhile, a new batch of public comments to the SEC have been posted regarding Cboe et al ETF.
https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-cboebzx-2018-040/cboebzx2018040.htm

The Negative Nancies are starting to appear:

Quote from: Kash Ranks
In a world where making a daily living is hard enough, how can you in good conscience, allow a speculative/scam instrument like Bitcoin to exist let alone approve an ETF. Blockchain has its merits but Coins are nothing more than a digital scam which is robbing people of their hard earned money and enabling speculative fervor. You must crack down on this so called 'currency' and make stringent rules on its existence. Thank you for your consideration

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I strongly oppose allowing the listing of the Bitcoin ETF.

Bitcoin is a pure speculation vehicle with no traditional value or commercial/industrial use. It has no fundamentals, is exceptionally volatile and is easily manipulated due to poor market liquidity and no market regulation. A CBOE listed ETF that is proposing to be a passive Bitcoin holding vehicle is nothing more than trying to get a broader pool of investors involved in something that would never be allowed for listing on a regulated stock exchange if it was a company.

This proposal most likely exists at all to draw additional money into the Bitcoin "ecosystem" as it is commonly called, essentially transferring risk from current market participants to newcomers who otherwise would not know how to get involved or would be prohibited by regulation or governance ethics from doing so.

Additionally, much of the purported size of Bitcoin is an illusion, with "market cap" as reported on private websites such as Coinmarketcap.com taking all coins ever in existence multiplied by an average of the last traded price in dollars. Volume is commonly reported as all Bitcoins traded in dollar value even if, as is the case, most of them did not trade against hard currency at all, instead trading against other cryptocurrencies or Tether, a purported 1:1: USD backed cryptocurrency that has been used to artificially pump the price and is more comparable to counterfeit money.

[...snip (he goes on)...]

This anti-ETF guy included supposed manipulation charts:
https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-cboebzx-2018-040/srcboebzx2018040-4190297-172697.pdf

This pro-ETF lady cries foul on SEC claims of price manipulation:
https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-cboebzx-2018-040/srcboebzx2018040-4185567-172649.pdf

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Here's my observation on the current price trend of Bitcoin:



In other words, the next 24 hours are critical?
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Good morning Bitcoinland. Long time no see.

Got flooded last week and I've been busy cleaning up and sorting out the water-damaged from the salvageable. Barely got to take off enough time for a dinner date and concert on Saturday. ZZ Top blew away both 38 Special and the tribute band calling themselves Lynyrd Skynyrd (only 1 original member).

While we've had a few ups and downs over the past week we're still pretty much where we were a week ago... currently $6475USD/$8530CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Hopefully we're back on the rise again. I wanna see at least 5 digits by the time I have to sell some coin in November to pay for my next round of dental surgery in Mexico.

Go Bitcoin go.

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The Negative Nancies are starting to appear:
Quote from: Kash Ranks

Quote from: Peter Quinn

I'm a little confused by your quotes. Maybe my browser's anti-idiot filter is acting up again?
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It's so beautiful.


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Arthur is happy even though his exchange is unfuckingusable just when things get busy.

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August 15, 2018, 04:29:47 PM

Bob, when a short gets called, how can those kind of dollar amounts buy bitcoins at a specific market price (instead of considerable slippage)?

Or is it a forced market buy for $2,554,207 when the bitcoin price exceeded $6,607.5 (first example)? How would the shorter then guarantee it can pay back all the bitcoins lent?


(not a trader as you might have noticed)
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August 15, 2018, 04:33:48 PM

Bob, when a short gets called, how can those kind of dollar amounts buy bitcoins at a specific market price (instead of considerable slippage)?
Or is it a forced market buy for $2,554,207 @ 6,607.5 (first example)? How would the shorter then guarantee it can pay back all the bitcoins lent?

I honestly am not experienced enough in trading to provide an answer for you. I'm not sure how Bitmex handles shorts - How much of those are forced vs voluntary, specifically.
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