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[crypmike]

Cboe is telling market makers that it's close to launching ether futures — and it could mark a big step in the crypto's evolution

Cboe Global Markets, the exchange behind the first market for bitcoin futures, is telling market makers it is close to rolling out futures for ether, the second-largest cryptocurrency by market capitalization, people familiar with the situation told Business Insider. The product may launch by the end of 2018, one of the people said.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/ether-futures-on-the-way-at-cboe-2018-8

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[mindrust]

Wu Jihan has a sense of humour. https://twitter.com/bitcoinnya/status/1035062915680759809

If Craig is %10 of what Jihan says, I would gladly call him "the real satoshi nakamoto"  

Funny thing here is, nobody in the bitcoin community believed this freak for a second but somehow all the major figures in the bcash community have/had close relations with Craig. Gavin, Roger, Wu... And those people are retards. They were retards back in the day in 2015, 2014, 2011... and they are still retards.

These people seem to be having fun!

[yefi]

I don't think he doesn't like books. He doesn't like these books and he is not alone. Personal development books usually suck and teach you nothing. They make you poor and stupid. Only the writer makes money by selling you nothing.

Look at this title:

"7 habits of highly effective people"

This title screams "S C A M". What the fuck would you possibly want to know about highly effective/intelligent/successful people? They study and work like there is no tomorrow. They set a target and do everything to get there. They don't fucking waste time on this shitty book that's for sure.

This. Plus, when I see a list that has The Secret in it, a book that genuinely insists you can change the rules of the universe through the positive power of your mind (something most infants quickly learn is impossible), that list has automatically become a shitlist that no intelligent person could recommend.

[Last of the V8s]

https://twitter.com/Crypto_Bitlord/status/1035128919270125569
Got an offer to sell this account for 657 BTC and I just couldn’t refuse, not in this bear market. The person seems to be coming after big accounts. I’m the 5th to sell up now. Handing over the keys to new owner next week and will announce fresh handle 👍
 

If anyone is interested, I'll sell my BTCtalk account for a pastrami on rye.

With the greatest of respect for your fine account, I think it's not worth that much. Would you accept my very generous offer of a half-unsmoked roll-up?

[yefi]

I've got a half-eaten pickle at the back of my fridge that I'm willing to throw into the ring.

[Raja_MBZ]

Satis Group research notes:

What is a Satis group and do you have any direct link?

https://satisgroup.io/ they are a buncha freeloaders and here is their report
https://research.bloomberg.com/pub/res/d37g1yWebn9LbRbS09rquSuSoDQ

"0.5 ETH"... LOL

"Give us your 0.5 ETH so that we can shill your ICO to those who give us another 0.5 ETH!"

[Aqualung89]

Btc had a quick attack and I think it continued to fall again after a while, but I need to recover from it again. It will be a very bad situation under normal conditions.

[El duderino_]

Sell the rally, buy the dip. Balls, Rosewater! Ladder your goddamm buys and sells next bloody time. Listen to reason!

Hodl then BTFD then hodl then BTFsmallD then hodl and keep repeating ..... like never sell coming years and you Will be fine

Cheap city dollars don't come as easy as they used to. I have to start doing some real work here.

Thats true as well ...... earning the shitty dollars or whatever is difficult but mostly needed to buy DIPS .....

[BTCtrader71]

Funny thing here is, nobody in the bitcoin community believed this freak for a second but somehow all the major figures in the bcash community have/had close relations with Craig. Gavin, Roger, Wu... And those people are retards. They were retards back in the day in 2015, 2014, 2011... and they are still retards.

Take a look at this analysis of the March 2013 accidental hard fork and the convo of core devs and others on the bitcoin-dev mailing list:
https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2015/07/28/analyzing-the-2013-bitcoin-fork-centralized-decision-making-saved-the-day/

It's clear from that conversation that Gavin's instincts were not as sharp or quick as those of some of the other core devs (Luke and Peter). If it had been Gavin by himself, I wonder if the fork would have been fixed as quickly as it was.

Looking back at that incident, I would perhaps be quite embarrassed by that conversation if I were Gavin. I wonder if he knew as early as March 2013 (if not earlier) that his days as lead dev were numbered. Maybe felt some resentment?

[El duderino_]

Pricess are coming back,

BOB ........ i think you’re man is on his way to retirement (you heard iT first here )    

[Searing]

Pricess are coming back,

BOB ........ i think you’re man is on his way to retirement (you heard iT first here )    

Retirement on crypto (BTC and altcoins of many flavors) has its issues. As the price of BTC and/or your altcoins drop, you get depressed and spend your crypto hash like a drunken sailor.

On the other hand, the price of your crypto of any flavor goes up and you are happy and also spend money like a drunken sailor

(ah the fear of being unemployed at one time kept my spending in check...no more)

just saying, you spend cash now like every day is a weekend

[JayJuanGee]

Aye, my lambo be a rhetorical lambo, not a literal Lambo. Hell, I drive a 20 year old full-size van. Then again, my rhetorical lambo cost quite a bit more than a literal Lambo.

Hopefully, you are not driving one of those windowless vans... hahahahahaha

Twenty years is really getting up their with vehicles, and I really got spoiled with built in bluetooth, and some of the other improvements of modern vehicles - including ride quality.

It's on my to-do list. Just not very high.

Actually, I was never much of a new car person, until about 8 years ago.  I had never really liked the immediate depreciation aspect.  

...I decided to go with new, and also to go with a kind of luxury brand.  The transition was really nice, and soon after taking the plunge, I was wondering why it had taken me so long to treat myself to something really nice

Yeah... thing is, the full-size van form factor just works for me. If someone made a van with interior trim up to luxury car standards, this woulda been a done deal already. Alas, no. So my decision is to abandon the form factor I desire and get a pickup, or settle for the comparatively downmarket experience of a van. Either seems a compromise, which makes me need to consider other platforms*. Which leads to indecision. ::sigh::

*i.e., maybe Tesla X?

Oh well, the wife is the car guy in this family, anyhoo.

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I cannot resist to say that I am not going to let you get away with this delegation to the wife thingie, completely, because in the end, there is some kind of reason that you are hanging onto a 20-year old van, when it seems that there are going to be some comparable features in modern vans or other substitute vehicles that could satisfy your needs - and update you to a new reliable version of a vehicle with bells and whistles of modern automotive technology, including improvements in actual ride quality.  

I will actually give you a bit of latitude on the stereotypical dynamic that guys should be picking cars, rather than women, because sometimes the actual use-cases of vans would be a kind of "family" car that would give wifey much more reasonable authority in the vehicle choice input.

 By the way, the Tesla X is a kind of SUV that differs from vans, and there are quite a few other models of cars on the market that are similar to the TeslaX - excepting that the electric nature of the TeslaX is surely an interesting experiment that is still ahead of its electrical charging infrastructure support.

Anyhow, I was thinking that there are some features of 20 year old vans that are not quite present in variations of modern SUVs, which would include your mentioning of the TeslaX as a possible consideration point, including that actual 20 year old vans could have the potential to have removability of seats and just the possible stand up space and roominess and customizability that some of the modern SUVs would not have - maybe even putting a bed in there or some other living room or even transportation space conveniences.  

My question here remains what is it about your particular 20-year old van that you like, besides the mere inconvenience of changing vehicles?  Is it the fact that you already have it set up with various of your features, or is there something else going on?  Some people  like the fact that some of the older cars are easier to work on with self-repairs, but even some of the 20 year old cars are already beginning to have a lot more computerization that even causes them to be difficult to self-maintain.

[sirazimuth]

So I was just thinking....

I usually check bitcoin price at
coinmarketcap  
While I'm there, sometimes for a shiggle I click on "full list"
And then it makes me wonder what CMC requires to  list a ridiculas worthless shitcoin that some
14 year old created in his moms basement in 10 minutes.
Why do you list this garbage CMC? Its embarrassing to the legit crypto community.

Having said that...I do like this this snapshot tool

[JayJuanGee]

That's what I started to think that there has to be another form factor that would work because form factors are always changing, yet in the USA, BIG is in so there has to be some variations of luxury BIG that will allow for upgrading and bringing the modern electronics into the mix...  ... because a 20 year vehicle starts to have a lot of lackings in terms of modern upgrades and just wear and tear that had already taken place even just from mere passage of time deterioration... there are also lower entry level new cars that offer standard features that would not even have been offered 10 years ago, based on technological automotive improvements

https://www.rubitrux.com/2017-dodge-ram-2500-maroon-587301.html

Nice color

I like the color, too.  Kind of afraid to get it muddy because the paint job looks so nice, which "getting muddy" seems to be a reason for the built-in winch.  

What is the honeycomb elongated rectangle thing above the winch?  Is that a LED fog/runner lights unit? or something else?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

@ Last of the V8’s - you’re mentioned here as holding one of the records for Merit streaks (Merited days in a row) in an in depth analysis thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4981102.0


Long streaks per section/subsection are more difficult to obtain. Last of the V8s holds the record here in the Economics subsection (Wall Observer thread), with a 22 day streak

[LanceChipFan]

Aye, my lambo be a rhetorical lambo, not a literal Lambo. Hell, I drive a 20 year old full-size van. Then again, my rhetorical lambo cost quite a bit more than a literal Lambo.

Hopefully, you are not driving one of those windowless vans... hahahahahaha

Twenty years is really getting up their with vehicles, and I really got spoiled with built in bluetooth, and some of the other improvements of modern vehicles - including ride quality.

It's on my to-do list. Just not very high.

Actually, I was never much of a new car person, until about 8 years ago.  I had never really liked the immediate depreciation aspect.  

...I decided to go with new, and also to go with a kind of luxury brand.  The transition was really nice, and soon after taking the plunge, I was wondering why it had taken me so long to treat myself to something really nice

Yeah... thing is, the full-size van form factor just works for me. If someone made a van with interior trim up to luxury car standards, this woulda been a done deal already. Alas, no. So my decision is to abandon the form factor I desire and get a pickup, or settle for the comparatively downmarket experience of a van. Either seems a compromise, which makes me need to consider other platforms*. Which leads to indecision. ::sigh::

*i.e., maybe Tesla X?

Oh well, the wife is the car guy in this family, anyhoo.

I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I cannot resist to say that I am not going to let you get away with this delegation to the wife thingie, completely, because in the end, there is some kind of reason that you are hanging onto a 20-year old van, when it seems that there are going to be some comparable features in modern vans or other substitute vehicles that could satisfy your needs - and update you to a new reliable version of a vehicle with bells and whistles of modern automotive technology, including improvements in actual ride quality.  

I will actually give you a bit of latitude on the stereotypical dynamic that guys should be picking cars, rather than women, because sometimes the actual use-cases of vans would be a kind of "family" car that would give wifey much more reasonable authority in the vehicle choice input.

 By the way, the Tesla X is a kind of SUV that differs from vans, and there are quite a few other models of cars on the market that are similar to the TeslaX - excepting that the electric nature of the TeslaX is surely an interesting experiment that is still ahead of its electrical charging infrastructure support.

Anyhow, I was thinking that there are some features of 20 year old vans that are not quite present in variations of modern SUVs, which would include your mentioning of the TeslaX as a possible consideration point, including that actual 20 year old vans could have the potential to have removability of seats and just the possible stand up space and roominess and customizability that some of the modern SUVs would not have - maybe even putting a bed in there or some other living room or even transportation space conveniences.  

My question here remains what is it about your particular 20-year old van that you like, besides the mere inconvenience of changing vehicles?  Is it the fact that you already have it set up with various of your features, or is there something else going on?  Some people  like the fact that some of the older cars are easier to work on with self-repairs, but even some of the 20 year old cars are already beginning to have a lot more computerization that even causes them to be difficult to self-maintain.

I have a nearly 20 year old vehicle that I wouldn't trade for anything. What's wrong with 20 year old vehicles? It's my daily drive to work and elsewhere - I use my wife's newer (brand new, hate, she now understands why I advised 100% against the course of action she took) POS when it is convenient or quick trip or family trip (it has better fuel economy and space). My fuel economy is not awful, about 28 mpg, and I do most of the basic work on it myself (changing brake pads, belts, terminals etc) to keep the rock bottom cost even lower.  This has featured the added benefit of the boon of some mechanical knowledge where none existed before. I at least investigate any issues myself prior to ever considering thieving mechanics. It has been paid off since I bought it (at a cool 120k miles) for five thousand dollars. It has some wear (now, and still not bad, was mostly pristine when purchased from singular owner) and certainly doesn't have the bells and whistles of newer vehicles, but I am absolutely fine with that. I just crossed a quarter million miles a few months ago. I keep the oil changed regularly and it scarcely needs other maintenance too often. My battery even lasted almost 5 years, granted that has nothing to do with the particular vehicle per se. It is a manual transmission and primarily a joy for me to ride.  I would be glad to have my daughter learn to drive this vehicle in some years if she is willing - and I certainly plan to teach her how to operate a manual transmission at the least.

I'm happy letting others get into cars they can't afford. I agree that new vehicles are not the way. When I do finally replace my favored child, it will be with a used vehicle that has already reached maximum depreciation and that will be regardless of how wealthy I am, as that is one method I will deploy to stay wealthy/maintain wealth (when I get there!).

I would never consider, much less purchase, a Tesla of any kind.

[elrippos friend]

That's what I started to think that there has to be another form factor that would work because form factors are always changing, yet in the USA, BIG is in so there has to be some variations of luxury BIG that will allow for upgrading and bringing the modern electronics into the mix...  ... because a 20 year vehicle starts to have a lot of lackings in terms of modern upgrades and just wear and tear that had already taken place even just from mere passage of time deterioration... there are also lower entry level new cars that offer standard features that would not even have been offered 10 years ago, based on technological automotive improvements

https://www.rubitrux.com/2017-dodge-ram-2500-maroon-587301.html

Nice color

I like the color, too.  Kind of afraid to get it muddy because the paint job looks so nice, which "getting muddy" seems to be a reason for the built-in winch.  

What is the honeycomb elongated rectangle thing above the winch?  Is that a LED fog/runner lights unit? or something else?

That's just for awaking awerness 

[kirreev070]

CBOE is very close to launching futures contracts for ether (ETH).
https://www.businessinsider.com/ether-futures-on-the-way-at-cboe-2018-8

[Raja_MBZ]

Way off-topic, so forgive me in advance!

[kirreev070]

LOL.GOD SAVE U