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November 05, 2018, 08:55:25 AM

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-billionaires-winklevoss-twins-sue-crypto-pioneer-charlie-shrem/

This is another case where it is better you can document and explain sudden wealth ie. the origins of it.

Of course, Charlie Shrem should be attempting to live more discretely, especially since he had already gone to prison, and there will be presumptions against him, which could send him back to the slammer - especially if civil pursuits against him end up revealing criminally relevant information.

Now he will probably need to either prove (with full blockchain trace) he had those Bitcoins before the hack or he invested a bunch of money after his release from prison AND how did he obtained the funds to do so. If he can't do that... well...

It seems that the Winklevi had a P.I. on him for quite some time before suing.

Oh, and I seem to remember Roger Ver and others lend/donated some funds to Shrem for his defence because he couldn't afford it.

Well, no. The onus is on the Winklevii to prove that the money Shrem has been spending is rightfully theirs. In theory, at least.

Well, it seems the judge has agreed to freeze some of Shrem assets in response to the case so, at this point, I would think some action on HIS part would be needed to unlock 'em. Not having read the content of the lawsuit there's not much more to speculate about probable outcomes.


P.S.: Here is what I remembered about Charlie being in need of money for his defense: https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/891050550862561280?lang=en

He probably also said to the court that he was broke, then he went to prison and some time after he is freed he buys assets for millions of $. I would say the Winklevi have a point there. Of course it could all be easily explained just by showing the legit origin of that sudden (post jail time) wealth. In fact he doesn't even need to do anything... the judge can (and probably did/will) request his tax reports for the past few years where everything should be well explained.


That is a strange interaction between Ver and Shrem in early 2017 - and that would have been after Shrem was released from prison.

Regarding burdens, the burdens can shift at various points of the case, and if the court freezes assets, that would likely be a temporary measure that would not effect the overall burden of the case, which still would be for the winkelvii to show.
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November 05, 2018, 09:42:38 AM
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hat update and increasing

   





= first creation "colonel of the HAT INVASION"   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes collectors item
= HAT creator
==keeping on to his principals .... Roll Eyes not to be convinced Grin  "like not ever"  JUST MIGHT BE IF BTC IS 5-DIG BY THE BAKKT LIST GAME


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November 05, 2018, 09:57:05 AM

If thousands of shitcoins are treated as equally special, then none of them are. Nothing but a bunch of penny stock trash.

Of course there's nothing special about any of them.  They're based on ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY for fuck's sake.  What else is based on artificial scarcity?  Jewish fiat notes.  Anyone who trades their labor or real world goods for artificial scarcity is a complete moron.  In their minds they already know this, they just believe they can get in on the pump and dump and get out before it collapses and leave someone else destitute besides themselves.  The only accurate description of craptocurrency is that one guy's forum icon who used to post here with George Costanzo that said "Scammers scamming scammers".
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November 05, 2018, 09:57:49 AM

Regarding freezing bank accounts in court cases, I wonder how they will handle things when bitcoin eventually starts to become commonplace. Probably threaten with prison or something? Will be interesting in any case.
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November 05, 2018, 09:59:01 AM

If thousands of shitcoins are treated as equally special, then none of them are. Nothing but a bunch of penny stock trash.

Of course there's nothing special about any of them.  They're based on ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY for fuck's sake.  What else is based on artificial scarcity?  Jewish fiat notes.  Anyone who trades their labor or real world goods for artificial scarcity is a complete moron.
The opposite. Fiat is based on artificial abundance. That's why it never works in the long run.
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November 05, 2018, 10:07:33 AM

The monkey's fork coin is mooning. It will dump, then we will dump. Then we will go sideways again.

These are the things I think.

While you ponder, you can also monitor
https://forkmonitor.info/ ( https://twitter.com/BitMEXResearch/status/1059383802911473665 )
https://cash.coin.dance/poli

for all the latest monkey action.
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November 05, 2018, 10:08:55 AM

If thousands of shitcoins are treated as equally special, then none of them are. Nothing but a bunch of penny stock trash.

Of course there's nothing special about any of them.  They're based on ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY for fuck's sake.  What else is based on artificial scarcity?  Jewish fiat notes.  Anyone who trades their labor or real world goods for artificial scarcity is a complete moron.  In their minds they already know this, they just believe they can get in on the pump and dump and get out before it collapses and leave someone else destitute besides themselves.  The only accurate description of craptocurrency is that one guy's forum icon who used to post here with George Costanzo that said "Scammers scamming scammers".
The opposite. Fiat is based on artificial abundance. That's why it never works in the long run.

Don't try to one-up r0ach with nonsensical semantics that do not make sense.  Fiat and shitcoins both derive value from artificial scarcity.  If you call it "artificial abundance" then your brain seems to work backwards with some type of dyslexia, or you're attempting a very poor semantics argument that has no hope.
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November 05, 2018, 10:10:31 AM

If thousands of shitcoins are treated as equally special, then none of them are. Nothing but a bunch of penny stock trash.

Of course there's nothing special about any of them.  They're based on ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY for fuck's sake.  What else is based on artificial scarcity?  Jewish fiat notes.  Anyone who trades their labor or real world goods for artificial scarcity is a complete moron.  In their minds they already know this, they just believe they can get in on the pump and dump and get out before it collapses and leave someone else destitute besides themselves.  The only accurate description of craptocurrency is that one guy's forum icon who used to post here with George Costanzo that said "Scammers scamming scammers".
The opposite. Fiat is based on artificial abundance. That's why it never works in the long run.

Don't try to one-up r0ach with nonsensical semantics that do not make sense.  Fiat and shitcoins both derive value from artificial scarcity.  If you call it "artificial abundance" then your brain seems to work backwards with some type of dyslexia or you're attempting a very poor semantics argument that has no hope.
Inflation. Deflation. Different things.
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November 05, 2018, 10:11:46 AM
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in need for a morning coffee and some action please Roll Eyes

edit: by now even the coffee guy knows what BTC is Grin
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November 05, 2018, 10:21:10 AM
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The MOST AMAZING news story you WILL EVER read in your life:

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November 05, 2018, 10:57:50 AM

This is probably the most interesting and fun thread on the forum, from the fact that I saw. All with such beautiful caps. When I have a high rank, I will also wear an avatar with a cap “The Oprah Winfrey Show”. Thank you for the good mood!  Grin
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This is probably the most interesting and fun thread on the forum, from the fact that I saw. All with such beautiful caps. When I have a high rank, I will also wear an avatar with a cap “The Oprah Winfrey Show”. Thank you for the good mood!  Grin
Welcome, comrade! May all your llamas be fat and your private keys in your own possession!
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This is probably the most interesting and fun thread on the forum, from the fact that I saw. All with such beautiful caps. When I have a high rank, I will also wear an avatar with a cap “The Oprah Winfrey Show”. Thank you for the good mood!  Grin
Welcome, comrade! May all your llamas be fat and your private keys in your own possession!
That almost sounds worthy of being our official mantra.
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This is probably the most interesting and fun thread on the forum, from the fact that I saw. All with such beautiful caps. When I have a high rank, I will also wear an avatar with a cap “The Oprah Winfrey Show”. Thank you for the good mood!  Grin

Welcome! Grab a few coins and put roach on your ignore list. We hope you have a great time with us! If you have any questions don't be shy and ask away!

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This is probably the most interesting and fun thread on the forum, from the fact that I saw. All with such beautiful caps. When I have a high rank, I will also wear an avatar with a cap “The Oprah Winfrey Show”. Thank you for the good mood!  Grin



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in need for a morning coffee and some action please Roll Eyes

edit: by now even the coffee guy knows what BTC is Grin

Do you provide the picture for your own coffee or are they just gods of the WO ?
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gonna go with my broter to one of you guys town/city next month.... for A BIG EVENT......

which town/city what event ??


some THING to guess perhaps  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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in need for a morning coffee and some action please Roll Eyes

edit: by now even the coffee guy knows what BTC is Grin

Do you provide the picture for your own coffee or are they just gods of the WO ?

they just see my face and knowing ITS A MUST BE COINER/HODLER FACE







they just have a QR code in the menu to scan and upload (only little bit more expensive but F*** it puts a smile on my face)
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gonna go with my broter to one of you guys town/city next month.... for A BIG EVENT......

which town/city what event ??


some THING to guess perhaps  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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gonna go with my broter to one of you guys town/city next month.... for A BIG EVENT......

which town/city what event ??


some THING to guess perhaps  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

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