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October 20, 2018, 06:34:54 PM

Boobies trap!

Are you fellers tryin' ta turn me back hetero or sumthin' ?

Sheeit.
I am very sure that is going to happen as they're showing you the Boobies trap!  Wink Try to save yourself buddy!
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October 20, 2018, 07:08:04 PM

Boobies trap!

Are you fellers tryin' ta turn me back hetero or sumthin' ?

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It's a TARP!
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October 20, 2018, 07:25:28 PM

Evidence to confirm Bitcoin's low correlation to other asset classes at least until the beginning of 2017:

https://www.signalplot.com/what-is-bitcoins-correlation-with-other-financial-assets/

I hope it does stay that way, too - the fresh money which will pour in on the next hike will largely be institutional.  For institutional capital, a lack of correlation is the real appeal. I have that from a Hedge fund manager (macro trader) I know who told me how they see things.  The institutional investment industry is watching, salivating and waiting for a safe way in, via ETFs etc. thinking: 'Wow a whole new asset class that doesn't correlate to play with!' For them, it's a unicorn.

OK, huge institutional money actually directly in the market is a double edged sword - however, I doubt crypto can build to the new heights largely on retail investors anymore. 

Once they are in (institutional investors), it would start to correlate, because they always buy and sell like lemmings (true for >95% of them).

But if it's seen as contrarian in a general asset crash (like gold USED to be)....?
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October 20, 2018, 07:33:51 PM
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Evidence to confirm Bitcoin's low correlation to other asset classes at least until the beginning of 2017:

https://www.signalplot.com/what-is-bitcoins-correlation-with-other-financial-assets/

I hope it does stay that way, too - the fresh money which will pour in on the next hike will largely be institutional.  For institutional capital, a lack of correlation is the real appeal. I have that from a Hedge fund manager (macro trader) I know who told me how they see things.  The institutional investment industry is watching, salivating and waiting for a safe way in, via ETFs etc. thinking: 'Wow a whole new asset class that doesn't correlate to play with!' For them, it's a unicorn.

OK, huge institutional money actually directly in the market is a double edged sword - however, I doubt crypto can build to the new heights largely on retail investors anymore. 

Once they are in (institutional investors), it would start to correlate, because they always buy and sell like lemmings (true for >95% of them).

But if it's seen as contrarian in a general asset crash (like gold USED to be)....?

Then the correlation would be negative. Also useful but far from the value of uncorrelation (or low correlation).
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October 20, 2018, 08:08:31 PM
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oktoberfest started already finisht 4 of them half liters beer..... and only 22h

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This blond bit** is mine to btw..... a hilbily nocoiner but she drinks beer....

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Fun but all looks like f****** NOCOINERS from my point of view



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October 20, 2018, 08:20:03 PM

Some further weekend reading:

https://multicoin.capital/2018/10/09/100-trillion/
https://multicoin.capital/2018/03/15/paths-to-100T/
https://oleganza.com/all/renaissance-of-cryptography/
Work is Timeless, Stake is Not by Hugo Nguyen https://link.medium.com/b7UO5OJ2aR
https://blog.picks.co/pow-is-efficient-aa3d442754d3

It is clear that I have PoW on my mind. Something that the Bitcoin community really has to think about in terms of putting forward a simple ELI5 response when another no-coiner utters the words: "but ... but ... PoW energy consumption".

In this respect, perception matters. Do not give adversaries a chance to use this as an angle of attack.

[edit]micgoossens, that looks like a regular schuurfeest somewhere on a farmer's land instead of an official Oktoberfeste zelt auf die Messe. But still good fun  ;. [/edit]
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October 20, 2018, 08:33:58 PM


 I don't incrementally backup as I create an image so making changes to an existing image means starting from scratch once I close the program.   I knew yours didn't look quite right so I still had the image open while I was working on mfort's hat in case I needed to make a change and my software crashed.   Angry 
Long story short, this hat will be ever so slightly different but still has the same overall appearance.


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Thanks mate, I owe you one, looks awesome!


Hey, I wrote a poem, I know many were left out, but as time passes I'll prolly get to know ppl better and add them in the future.

<...cute poem mentioning yours truly and others>

one way to harvest merits I suppose... (yw)


Well, I'm not a technical analyst, nor can I give any other crucial advice to people, so I have to collect my merits some other way. And I want to wear the hat!

Going on a plane in 7h, gonna collect some more names and lengthen the poem.

Thank you all for the merits, stay cool, like always Smiley
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October 20, 2018, 08:34:37 PM

Some further weekend reading:

https://multicoin.capital/2018/10/09/100-trillion/
https://multicoin.capital/2018/03/15/paths-to-100T/
https://oleganza.com/all/renaissance-of-cryptography/
Work is Timeless, Stake is Not by Hugo Nguyen https://link.medium.com/b7UO5OJ2aR
https://blog.picks.co/pow-is-efficient-aa3d442754d3

It is clear that I have PoW on my mind. Something that the Bitcoin community really has to think about in terms of putting forward a simple ELI5 response when another no-coiner utters the words: "but ... but ... PoW energy consumption".

In this respect, perception matters. Do not give adversaries a chance to use this as an angle of attack.

[edit]micgoossens, that looks like a regular schuurfeest somewhere on a farmer's land instead of an official Oktoberfeste zelt auf die Messe. But still good fun  ;. [/edit]

wow good lot of bumph to wade through, as well as previous contributions, thanks a bunch lol.
don't really see these people as adversaries nowadays, just as losers. no time for them. but if I must: the more energy you put into keeping your money safe, the safer your money will be.
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October 20, 2018, 08:37:38 PM

Oh and I want to get a new tat, crypto related, any ideas? I should hide WO somewhere too Cheesy
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October 20, 2018, 08:37:55 PM

^^^
Haha lol
Hoogstraten oktoberfest not germany koln offcourse, my man wekkel you from somewhere around here ?
And it ain’t to bad in here

And notice there ain’t no weekend Readings only weekend fuck ups  Grin
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October 20, 2018, 08:39:15 PM

oktoberfest started already finisht 4 of them half liters beer..... and only 22h


That's one hell of a party, how many days are you spending (drinking) there? Don't forget to drink a sip of water after every 15 beers  Grin
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October 20, 2018, 08:46:29 PM
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Boobies trap!

Are you fellers tryin' ta turn me back hetero or sumthin' ?

Sheeit.

Just get really drunk and try it some time.
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October 20, 2018, 08:49:25 PM

Hmmm....



https://twitter.com/IamCryptoWolf/status/1053537626354016256
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October 20, 2018, 08:52:40 PM
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Continuing to watch this carefully. Continued drift away from red line.  Possible floor forming at $6350.   Also wary of Saturday night fuckery.

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https://twitter.com/nagertherager/status/1053732468073758720
more boobie trap

https://twitter.com/Tweet4nita/status/1040839448043429889
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October 20, 2018, 09:44:53 PM

I don't see any connection either way.  Certainly when bitcoin was $2, it was just geeks mining and a few people taking punt.  Big money didn't get involved until 2013 at the earliest, since then technical has been far more important than fundamentals.

Well, in 2013 the U.S. stock market went on a massive bull run/rally, peaked in Dec 2013, then went sharply bear in Jan 2014.

So did the Bitcoin market.

Then in 2017 the U.S. stock market went on a massive bull run/rally, peaked in Dec 2017, then went sharply bear in Jan 2018.

So did the Bitcoin market.

If you can't see that direct correlation, then I can't help you man. It's all about long money vs. short money, and smart money vs. dumb.

I would agree with you on technicals though, as the Bitcoin fundamentals haven't changed since 2012 so they don't really matter. I don't really consider SW and LN as a huge change to the fundamentals, as the utility and SoV function has been there all along.
you made me look at the charts for gringo stock market and you seem to be quite wrong

Exactly.... most of the correlation, to the extent that it could exist in some kind of way, is coincidental, more than anything.

Bitcoin is a quite different asset class, and so immature that it is going to take a long while for the correlation dynamics (to the extent that they might exist short term) to get worked out.

When an asset, such as bitcoin, is in the very early stages of adoption and likely at the bottom of the hockey stick, you are not going to find too many assets in that same stage of development and adoption.

Technicals work on the short term and looking in retrospect, but with bitcoin you also have to consider the fundamentals that continue to keep the underlying hockey stick that sometimes is difficult to see in the short term and while we are in the midst of it... but the fundamentals are going to drive the technicals beyond the little categories and boxes in which they try to short term predict bitcoin's imminent downfall that never seems to actually happen because of the underlying and unseen hockey stick - that only some peeps can appreciate such invisible hockey stick for being present.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Evidence to confirm Bitcoin's low correlation to other asset classes at least until the beginning of 2017:

https://www.signalplot.com/what-is-bitcoins-correlation-with-other-financial-assets/

Thanks for that relevant topic link. 

We do seem to need an update to the content and studies in which that article relies since it seems reasonable that some people are wanting to give greater weight to more recent financialization building in bitcoin with the passage of time (which I believe is quite reasonable for more weight to be given to more recent dates and events including further expansion of bitcoin financialization developments).
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October 20, 2018, 10:08:31 PM

Its just midnight and me thinking it ain’t much longer before carrieing me out wil  be in progress , english ain’t good , don’t mind it tonight!

Oktober schuurfeest whatever beeing drunk on sideways is whats happening and me still hetero cause my girl wearing this red hair is amazing as FUCK

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October 20, 2018, 10:15:31 PM

So we're still stuck at 6500 or so, is bitcoin the new stablecoin?

No.    Wink
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October 20, 2018, 10:27:40 PM

The hat could contain a secret boobies trap!





Boobies trap!

OMG!!!!   Wouldn't want that.

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