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[BitcoinGirl.Club]

The consequences for something going wrong in space is bigger than if something goes wrong in the ocean.

I got it earth people but do not forget we are the pioneers who are going to take the risk for better future of the people in Earth. I am sure some day we will conquer mars too.

Bitcoin force 🤪

[Elwar]

We still have a lot of oceans to be our ever expanding frontier. We don't need to go to space for a long time yet.

Good luck with the salty waters and may be with filtering them. We are getting ready to leave the earth soon.

We had a water maker on the seastead. It put out 60 liters per day of fresh water. All run on solar.

[Elwar]

Is there anything being done with Colored Coin development anymore? Or did all of the people developing those jump to shitcoins thinking that everyone would rush to their new off chain "solution".

Looking to use the Bitcoin blockchain to record property ownership for the new seasteads.

[kellrobinson]

I don't know why, but I now feel the urge to post another one:



Source: Bitcoin’s natural long-term power-law corridor of growth

This is an uberbullish log-log graph (log axis on values, log axis on time):

It predicts that the price will not reach $100 000 before 2021, but it also predicts that the price will not be lower than $100 000 by 2028. It predicts that the price will not reach $1 000 000 before 2028, but also that the price will not be lower than that after 2037. The model predicts ever increasing prices, although at a slower and slower rate.

Hope you like, Mic

Looking at the graph the maximum price before 2021 is well under 100k (90k).

Other than that: cool graph. Seems to be a bit more on the conservative side when compared to the past.

The concept of putting time on a log scale is... interesting.
Generally, you would use a log scale for something that accumulates, grows or shrinks.  Such things as stock and commodity prices, the mass of a pile of rocks, and absolute temperatures Kelvin don't exhibit negative values; they have a well defined zero point, and positive values are the only values to consider.  It makes sense to use logarithms on scales where zero is fixed, accounting for changes in proportion.
Time doesn't have this proportional quality.  One doesn't say there was twice as much time in the year 2000 as there was in the year 1000.  And to use a log scale at all, you have to set a point for time zero.
Coinmonks didn't state what point he uses as time zero for his log axis, which led me to do a little mathematical forensics on his chart to find out.
You'll notice that the distance from 2011 to 2012 is the same as the distance from 2013 to 2015.  so:
(2012-t_z)/(2011-t_z) = (2015-t_z)/(2013-t_z)
and
time zero = 2009

edit:  InTheLoop made a comment on Coinmonk's Medium post that bears directly on the matter of defining bitcoin's time zero for the price model

Thanks Harold. You are using time in days since 2009, likely based on bitcoin’s genesis block on 3 Jan 2009. However, in the beginning there wasn’t a great deal of trading and thus price discovery,
so it’s natural to introduce the starting day as an additional parameter in the model. Together with slope and intercept this leads to a three-parameter power-law model, exactly what I have described in my article.
That shift parameter then turns out to be 312 days before 17 July 2010 (the origin of your and my price data), so based on current full historic data, bitcoin’s starting date of the power-law is estimated at 8 September 2009.
Using such 3-parameter fit will increase the quality of the fit even further. See: https://medium.com/@intheloop/when-moon-rational-growth-ranges-for-bitcoin-ffaa94c9d484

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

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What's up!
Good to see you brother. Hope everything is going well?

[Elwar]

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What's up!
Good to see you brother. Hope everything is going well?

Alive and well (except this extremely low bitcoin price).

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Good to hear.
Yeah it sucks but good days are ahead of course. Keep hustling brother.

[Elwar]

I do believe we need to conquer the ocean before we can move to space. Otherwise we need to wait for governments and NIMBYs to "allow" us to go to space.

The point of our initial seastead was to create a support community for a space launch facility in the open ocean. The aerospace engineer putting it all together and funding it (with his Vladmir Club level bitcoins) is planning on building a launch loop about 60km wide. From there he can launch things into space repeatedly minutes or seconds apart. The seastead I lived in was not built to be a home, rather an observation tower.

He is determined to move forward on this and build a prototype 300m diameter loop in the next year or so as a proof of concept.

Also, going to Mars seems to be a government supported thing. Why go through all of the hassle to get to space...only to get stuck on another rock?

[dragonvslinux]

I don't know why, but I now feel the urge to post another one:



Source: Bitcoin’s natural long-term power-law corridor of growth

This is a nice chart, it does give me the impression we haven't spend long enough in the green band, given half the time is spent there.
It looks like we could resemble a 2012 style correction, whereby we break out of the support band but are rejected and return to support.
Either way. long-term accumulation is coming in my opinion.

[Last of the V8s]

The "Vladimir Club"

[realr0ach]

We still have a lot of oceans to be our ever expanding frontier. We don't need to go to space for a long time yet.

A frontier in this context implies some sort of self-sustained homesteading environment.  You're not practicing libertardianism by living in a seastead since 90%+ of the resources humans use come from land.  Seasteading is not a new frontier, it's essentially parasitizing on the existing frontier.  A new frontier implies new resources.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Curious and interesting facts:

Countries with little financial freedom have great adoption of Bitcoin.

Countries with high inflation:




The data thrown are 317 BTC per 100,000 inhabitants.

Russia of seconds with 272 BTC per 100,000.



The values ​​of Venezuela and Russia are unusual today, while countries with greater economic freedom are increasingly joining Bitcoin  market.



Countries with more Internet penetration exhibit high volumes relative to population and GDP per capita



Source:https://cryptoslate.com/data-bitcoin-interest-high-places-low-economic-freedom/

Bitcoin's deflationary economy, has done much more than the traditional economy, provides more opportunities for people around the world, criticized the way the policy imposed by the US. UU. And the EU to impose sanctions on some countries, Bittrex and CEX.IO banned some countries with Crypto potential that offer market demand. Regulations should not exist in Crypto.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

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I got your point now what to do with this culture we built in the community of lending in the moon with bitcoin? 🤪

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Man I ran out of sMerits. Can someone sent his guy some merit for me please?

Thanks

[realr0ach]

I got your point now what to do with this culture we built

Culture?  Is that what they call pump and dump scammers now.

[jojo69]

Man I ran out of sMerits. Can someone sent his guy some merit for me please?

Thanks

got you fam

[El duderino_]

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https://twitter.com/redditbtc/status/1186010667024863248?s=21
Tha lil Sunday pumps...
2 0 6 to halvening!!!
Plan B hopium.

I want to believe, but will refuse to believe until I see the money.

HOLDing firm until at least $15k (thanks to you guys, again, for bearing my first-world-problem waffling previously) before I start to think about things and stuff.

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[infofront]

I liked Jeff Berwick too, until he got too close to Roger Ver and became an all-out bcasher.

I'm not sure how he hasn't figured out anarchy isn't a real 'thing', although Elwar hasn't either.  If you advocate for the complete abolition of government, all you get is some Liberian cannibal warlord strongman stepping in and taking over, then you have another new government you didn't want that's even worse than the one before.  Anarchy is nothing but an extremely brief, transitory state.  People don't adopt it due to the saying "the devil you know is better than the one you don't."

As for libertardianism, it's not really possible to practice libertardianism in a closed ecosystem, which is what the earth is.  You would need an ever expanding frontier to homestead on to do that.  Without an ever expanding frontier, you have a closed ecosystem, caged deathmatch where people constantly band together to avoid being exploited by the local psychopaths or the ones down the street, then you have government.  An ever expanding frontier does exist - it's called space, which may or may not be accessible by humans.  

Lying Jeff Berwick has been pitching Acapulco as an anarchist utopia for years. I guess it could be, in an ultra-realism kind of way, since it's 100% controlled by homicidal drug cartels.

https://www.wired.com/story/anarchy-bitcoin-and-murder-in-mexico/

[infofront]

Poll reset

[teosanru]

Poll reset

Don't know about the rest of the forum but 9 people surely look BTC in a very optimistic way thinking that it would reach 20k until 5 oct. They might be either the ones who bought at 19k and still waiting for that price or the Mcafee supporters. 

[UmerIdrees]

Don't know about the rest of the forum but 9 people surely look BTC in a very optimistic way thinking that it would reach 20k until 5 oct. They might be either the ones who bought at 19k and still waiting for that price or the Mcafee supporters.