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May 01, 2020, 01:04:11 AM

"the Constitution is not suspended in times of crisis"

Some state and local legislators are about to get served.

Like most of Trump's crap this will probably be tossed. The Supreme Court has ruled in the past that pandemics do allow suspension of liberties for people spreading disease. See Mary, Typhoid.

That said, I would be ok with removing that if and only if these people could be sued directly for any deaths they may cause with penalties being paid by them and their heirs until such time as full restitution is achieved. All debits and credits tracked of course on a distributed transaction ledger through the ages....

That's the true Libertarian way (you have 100% responsibility for you actions along with the 100% freedom to act)

I agree.

Just like sources of pollution used to be tracked and the polluters sued. An industry of pollution detectives were just starting to spring up when the industrial age was just beginning. Fearing a total shutdown of the economy corporations worked with the government to create the EPA which protected the polluters in exchange for some superficial regulations and payoffs.

If we could track the spread of diseases and hold those people responsible accountable we could stop disease.

I mean...we know the 4 or so people that brought it to the US right? So they say. Start with them.
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Red red red.

The halving is of course important, but I'm not convinced it's that important in the long run. Most BTC has been mined already, the price can't depend that much on mining.

How many bitcoins are mined per day now? Around 1800? So roughly $15-$16 million in BTC to dump every day not bad huh?  Cool

If being so concerned about how much is mined per day then might I suggest a docu about crypto I stumbled upon last week?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244830.0
Just to get your mind off the bottom line. Cheesy

Only real problem for me will be finding a bank that doesn't mind large cash deposits.

You ever watched Ozark?
Havent watched this series yet and heard I am three seasons behind.
Guess will need to do a binge session like I did with breaking bad four years ago. Undecided
Now you have gotten my mind back to the bottom line. Roll Eyes


What a shame Roger lost his way...

I hear you on that one brother. Cry
He could of been the chosen one but he let greed and probably something off of silk road get into his head.
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so heres something i didnt expect.

a 1200 stimulus check was issued to a dead family member that im executor of the estate of.

it went direct deposit to the estate bank account thats in my name as im the executor. since thats me the letter that told me of the 1200 went to me.

im not even sure what to make of that.

edit that person died over a year ago. and all relevant authorities were notified immediately (irs, ssa etc)
Shows the value of a human life in the current year.
Carol baskins would of kept it and claim the family member all the sudden just disappeared. Embarrassed

I don't know if people r serious or not. I better go watch something on netflix. I hope we are $9K+ when I come back.

Might I suggest the season 0 Episide 1 The Tiger King and I. Undecided
Just finished the whole series yesterday and now question humanity.

I haven't watched the show yet but I lived in that part of Florida. I remember the Tiger reserve (passed it on the way to work).

Having lived there...ya...nothing would surprise me about the people there. I think it is partly yankee rejects from New Jersey (and Michigan) coming down thinking they're smarter than the locals, partly the prevalence of oxy prescription mills, partly people thinking "spring break was so fun, I should move here!" and then they actually do...then have no idea what to do after that.

I got out alive...

Speaking of rejects from Michigan....

https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/armed-demonstrators-storm-michigan-state-house-over-stay-at-home-order/

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Hundreds of angry demonstrators, some of them armed with rifles, stormed Michigan’s State House on Thursday to protest stay-at-home orders — terrifying lawmakers who wore bulletproof vests to protect themselves.

The protesters forced their way into the Capitol in Lansing to urge Michigan officials to end a state of emergency as the Wolverine State continues to battle one of the worst COVID-19 outbreaks in the country.

Thursday’s event reached a terrifying climax when Capitol police were forced to protect lawmakers as protesters tried to storm their way into the chamber, the Detroit Free Press reported.

In one frightening scene, several men armed with rifles made their way into the public gallery and began shouting at senators on the floor beneath them, according to an account by one lawmaker.

fml
The pictures I saw of these brutes were scarier.



Looks like some fine gentlemen standing up to tyrants bc they refuse to obey and hide under their beds from a virus less lethal than the flu.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-prisons-testing-in/in-four-u-s-state-prisons-nearly-3300-inmates-test-positive-for-coronavirus-96-without-symptoms-idUSKCN2270RX

96 percent w no symptoms, this virus and the surrounding doom calling is a joke. For any of those who got fooled, time to just accept you were wrong and cover those shorts. Its Just The Coronavirus Bro.
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I'm feeling a bit nervous about having my bitcoins on the exchange right now. If they suddenly "lose" everyone's bitcoins...what would anyone really care? Everyone has enough problems than to worry about a bunch of rich folks losing money.

I am also a bit gun shy on many cold storage systems I have used. I barely got out of Thailand with my bitcoins intact.

Keeping anything physical requires thinking of different scenarios. Bugging out I can carry it with me. What if I'm arrested for tyranny reasons and they confiscate my home again? Centralized servers don't seem very secure at this point (encrypting it and putting it on AWS, etc.). There's a brain wallet but many of those were hacked due to humans not being as crafty as they think. I had troubles with my trezor in Thailand, I had the trezor but the backup codes were on the seastead. That's part of it, you need backups but what to do with the backups?

I get pretty extreme when doing cold storage for extra security. Last time I bought a cheap computer to create the private keys, then put them into my cryptosteel in an order that only I knew, then I destroyed the computer with a hammer and burned the parts in a fire. Fortunately I had a backup that I split among family members because all of my cryptosteel was on the seastead.

Coming up with a new cold storage solution is not simple when you don't trust that your home won't be over-run. If I was thrown in jail I'd like the peace of mind that every day I'm in there I'm getting richer and richer and nobody can steal my bitcoins while I'm in there.

Would you be able to remember several random words like
peasant
cultivate
specimen
articulate
if you record just the first letter, or the first two letters, of each word?  Like this
pe cu sp ar
If so, then you have some entropy to get you started on constructing a seed.  Entropy that you can retrieve using an abbreviated mnemonic as above.
Next, you add enough salt to protect you from rainbow table attacks while lengthening the string to protect from brute force attacks.
For example, you could use your social security number and your mother's maiden name
So the reminder string becomes
pe cu sp ar ss mmn
So that you have a string with four words and a number, followed by a fifth word, and you can store just the abbreviated string.
It is highly unlikely that any thief who gets hold of your file will be able to reconstruct the string from the abbreviations, so storing it
becomes much less of a security concern.  You might even email it to yourself.
Now we probaby have enough bits to work with.  But add more words or salt if you see fit.
The next step is to create a private key or seed from your (entropy + salt) string.
Do a sha256 hash of the full string.  This will give you a 256 bit hex string (64 characters).
And that hex can be the input for a tool like
https://bip32jp.github.io/english/
or you can use Ian Coleman's mnemonic code converter
https://iancoleman.io/bip39/
and click "show entropy details" to put in your own entropy.
Now you have a seed.  But you don't need to remember the seed.
If you can reconstruct the string that was the entropy source, you can reconstruct the seed.
For me, it's easier to remember something that I came up with on my own, aided by a mnemonic shorthand like
pe cu sp ar ss mmn
than it is to remember a 12 word HD seed, for example.
But your mileage may vary; everybody's brain works different.


Notes  
the output of the hash command depends on the syntax.
I always type it like this:
echo -n 'passphrase' | sha256sum
For example,
Code:
a@galliumos:~$ echo -n 'correct horse battery staple' | sha256sum
c4bbcb1fbec99d65bf59d85c8cb62ee2db963f0fe106f483d9afa73bd4e39a8a  -
Do the following:
Use the first 32 hex chars (128 bits) of the hash as custom entropy input for one of the generators linked above
and you will get 12 words that you can use to create or restore a bip39 HD wallet.
If you don't want to use the command line to do the hash, you can hash the string by typing it into http://brain.evilbs.com/, which calls the produced hash the "secret exponent."  The output will be the same as that produced by the command line syntax specified above.
Warning:  if you use the command line, your .bash_history file will record the command, with the word string as you typed it,
so make sure to erase that line from the file.
Also, you obviously don't want to do this sort of thing on a website.  If you use one of the generators or the brainwallet site,
download the page and run it offline.

More:

If the generator websites ever go offline, or if you prefer to roll your own, I'm posting instructions for generating HD seed words from entropy,
copy/pasted from        https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039.mediawiki#Generating_the_mnemonic
ENT in the github instructions is what I referred to as "(ent+salt) string" in the original post above.
Included with these instructions is the wordlist
Note, the word list at    https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt   is numbered wrong, instead of 1-2048 it should be 0-2047

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The mnemonic must encode entropy in a multiple of 32 bits. With more entropy security is improved but the sentence length increases. 
We refer to the initial entropy length as ENT. The allowed size of ENT is 128-256 bits.

First, an initial entropy of ENT bits is generated. A checksum is generated by taking the first

ENT / 32

bits of its SHA256 hash. This checksum is appended to the end of the initial entropy.
Next, these concatenated bits are split into groups of 11 bits, each encoding a number from 0-2047, serving as an index into a wordlist.
Finally, we convert these numbers into words and use the joined words as a mnemonic sentence.

The following table describes the relation between the initial entropy length (ENT),
the checksum length (CS) and the length of the generated mnemonic sentence (MS) in words.

CS = ENT / 32
MS = (ENT + CS) / 11

|  ENT  | CS | ENT+CS |  MS  |
+-------+----+--------+------+
|  128  |  4 |   132  |  12  |
|  160  |  5 |   165  |  15  |
|  192  |  6 |   198  |  18  |
|  224  |  7 |   231  |  21  |
|  256  |  8 |   264  |  24  |

word list:

0 abandon
1 ability
2 able
3 about
4 above
5 absent
6 absorb
7 abstract
8 absurd
9 abuse
10 access
11 accident
12 account
13 accuse
14 achieve
15 acid
16 acoustic
17 acquire
18 across
19 act
20 action
21 actor
22 actress
23 actual
24 adapt
25 add
26 addict
27 address
28 adjust
29 admit
30 adult
31 advance
32 advice
33 aerobic
34 affair
35 afford
36 afraid
37 again
38 age
39 agent
40 agree
41 ahead
42 aim
43 air
44 airport
45 aisle
46 alarm
47 album
48 alcohol
49 alert
50 alien
51 all
52 alley
53 allow
54 almost
55 alone
56 alpha
57 already
58 also
59 alter
60 always
61 amateur
62 amazing
63 among
64 amount
65 amused
66 analyst
67 anchor
68 ancient
69 anger
70 angle
71 angry
72 animal
73 ankle
74 announce
75 annual
76 another
77 answer
78 antenna
79 antique
80 anxiety
81 any
82 apart
83 apology
84 appear
85 apple
86 approve
87 april
88 arch
89 arctic
90 area
91 arena
92 argue
93 arm
94 armed
95 armor
96 army
97 around
98 arrange
99 arrest
100 arrive
101 arrow
102 art
103 artefact
104 artist
105 artwork
106 ask
107 aspect
108 assault
109 asset
110 assist
111 assume
112 asthma
113 athlete
114 atom
115 attack
116 attend
117 attitude
118 attract
119 auction
120 audit
121 august
122 aunt
123 author
124 auto
125 autumn
126 average
127 avocado
128 avoid
129 awake
130 aware
131 away
132 awesome
133 awful
134 awkward
135 axis
136 baby
137 bachelor
138 bacon
139 badge
140 bag
141 balance
142 balcony
143 ball
144 bamboo
145 banana
146 banner
147 bar
148 barely
149 bargain
150 barrel
151 base
152 basic
153 basket
154 battle
155 beach
156 bean
157 beauty
158 because
159 become
160 beef
161 before
162 begin
163 behave
164 behind
165 believe
166 below
167 belt
168 bench
169 benefit
170 best
171 betray
172 better
173 between
174 beyond
175 bicycle
176 bid
177 bike
178 bind
179 biology
180 bird
181 birth
182 bitter
183 black
184 blade
185 blame
186 blanket
187 blast
188 bleak
189 bless
190 blind
191 blood
192 blossom
193 blouse
194 blue
195 blur
196 blush
197 board
198 boat
199 body
200 boil
201 bomb
202 bone
203 bonus
204 book
205 boost
206 border
207 boring
208 borrow
209 boss
210 bottom
211 bounce
212 box
213 boy
214 bracket
215 brain
216 brand
217 brass
218 brave
219 bread
220 breeze
221 brick
222 bridge
223 brief
224 bright
225 bring
226 brisk
227 broccoli
228 broken
229 bronze
230 broom
231 brother
232 brown
233 brush
234 bubble
235 buddy
236 budget
237 buffalo
238 build
239 bulb
240 bulk
241 bullet
242 bundle
243 bunker
244 burden
245 burger
246 burst
247 bus
248 business
249 busy
250 butter
251 buyer
252 buzz
253 cabbage
254 cabin
255 cable
256 cactus
257 cage
258 cake
259 call
260 calm
261 camera
262 camp
263 can
264 canal
265 cancel
266 candy
267 cannon
268 canoe
269 canvas
270 canyon
271 capable
272 capital
273 captain
274 car
275 carbon
276 card
277 cargo
278 carpet
279 carry
280 cart
281 case
282 cash
283 casino
284 castle
285 casual
286 cat
287 catalog
288 catch
289 category
290 cattle
291 caught
292 cause
293 caution
294 cave
295 ceiling
296 celery
297 cement
298 census
299 century
300 cereal
301 certain
302 chair
303 chalk
304 champion
305 change
306 chaos
307 chapter
308 charge
309 chase
310 chat
311 cheap
312 check
313 cheese
314 chef
315 cherry
316 chest
317 chicken
318 chief
319 child
320 chimney
321 choice
322 choose
323 chronic
324 chuckle
325 chunk
326 churn
327 cigar
328 cinnamon
329 circle
330 citizen
331 city
332 civil
333 claim
334 clap
335 clarify
336 claw
337 clay
338 clean
339 clerk
340 clever
341 click
342 client
343 cliff
344 climb
345 clinic
346 clip
347 clock
348 clog
349 close
350 cloth
351 cloud
352 clown
353 club
354 clump
355 cluster
356 clutch
357 coach
358 coast
359 coconut
360 code
361 coffee
362 coil
363 coin
364 collect
365 color
366 column
367 combine
368 come
369 comfort
370 comic
371 common
372 company
373 concert
374 conduct
375 confirm
376 congress
377 connect
378 consider
379 control
380 convince
381 cook
382 cool
383 copper
384 copy
385 coral
386 core
387 corn
388 correct
389 cost
390 cotton
391 couch
392 country
393 couple
394 course
395 cousin
396 cover
397 coyote
398 crack
399 cradle
400 craft
401 cram
402 crane
403 crash
404 crater
405 crawl
406 crazy
407 cream
408 credit
409 creek
410 crew
411 cricket
412 crime
413 crisp
414 critic
415 crop
416 cross
417 crouch
418 crowd
419 crucial
420 cruel
421 cruise
422 crumble
423 crunch
424 crush
425 cry
426 crystal
427 cube
428 culture
429 cup
430 cupboard
431 curious
432 current
433 curtain
434 curve
435 cushion
436 custom
437 cute
438 cycle
439 dad
440 damage
441 damp
442 dance
443 danger
444 daring
445 dash
446 daughter
447 dawn
448 day
449 deal
450 debate
451 debris
452 decade
453 december
454 decide
455 decline
456 decorate
457 decrease
458 deer
459 defense
460 define
461 defy
462 degree
463 delay
464 deliver
465 demand
466 demise
467 denial
468 dentist
469 deny
470 depart
471 depend
472 deposit
473 depth
474 deputy
475 derive
476 describe
477 desert
478 design
479 desk
480 despair
481 destroy
482 detail
483 detect
484 develop
485 device
486 devote
487 diagram
488 dial
489 diamond
490 diary
491 dice
492 diesel
493 diet
494 differ
495 digital
496 dignity
497 dilemma
498 dinner
499 dinosaur
500 direct
501 dirt
502 disagree
503 discover
504 disease
505 dish
506 dismiss
507 disorder
508 display
509 distance
510 divert
511 divide
512 divorce
513 dizzy
514 doctor
515 document
516 dog
517 doll
518 dolphin
519 domain
520 donate
521 donkey
522 donor
523 door
524 dose
525 double
526 dove
527 draft
528 dragon
529 drama
530 drastic
531 draw
532 dream
533 dress
534 drift
535 drill
536 drink
537 drip
538 drive
539 drop
540 drum
541 dry
542 duck
543 dumb
544 dune
545 during
546 dust
547 dutch
548 duty
549 dwarf
550 dynamic
551 eager
552 eagle
553 early
554 earn
555 earth
556 easily
557 east
558 easy
559 echo
560 ecology
561 economy
562 edge
563 edit
564 educate
565 effort
566 egg
567 eight
568 either
569 elbow
570 elder
571 electric
572 elegant
573 element
574 elephant
575 elevator
576 elite
577 else
578 embark
579 embody
580 embrace
581 emerge
582 emotion
583 employ
584 empower
585 empty
586 enable
587 enact
588 end
589 endless
590 endorse
591 enemy
592 energy
593 enforce
594 engage
595 engine
596 enhance
597 enjoy
598 enlist
599 enough
600 enrich
601 enroll
602 ensure
603 enter
604 entire
605 entry
606 envelope
607 episode
608 equal
609 equip
610 era
611 erase
612 erode
613 erosion
614 error
615 erupt
616 escape
617 essay
618 essence
619 estate
620 eternal
621 ethics
622 evidence
623 evil
624 evoke
625 evolve
626 exact
627 example
628 excess
629 exchange
630 excite
631 exclude
632 excuse
633 execute
634 exercise
635 exhaust
636 exhibit
637 exile
638 exist
639 exit
640 exotic
641 expand
642 expect
643 expire
644 explain
645 expose
646 express
647 extend
648 extra
649 eye
650 eyebrow
651 fabric
652 face
653 faculty
654 fade
655 faint
656 faith
657 fall
658 FALSE
659 fame
660 family
661 famous
662 fan
663 fancy
664 fantasy
665 farm
666 fashion
667 fat
668 fatal
669 father
670 fatigue
671 fault
672 favorite
673 feature
674 february
675 federal
676 fee
677 feed
678 feel
679 female
680 fence
681 festival
682 fetch
683 fever
684 few
685 fiber
686 fiction
687 field
688 figure
689 file
690 film
691 filter
692 final
693 find
694 fine
695 finger
696 finish
697 fire
698 firm
699 first
700 fiscal
701 fish
702 fit
703 fitness
704 fix
705 flag
706 flame
707 flash
708 flat
709 flavor
710 flee
711 flight
712 flip
713 float
714 flock
715 floor
716 flower
717 fluid
718 flush
719 fly
720 foam
721 focus
722 fog
723 foil
724 fold
725 follow
726 food
727 foot
728 force
729 forest
730 forget
731 fork
732 fortune
733 forum
734 forward
735 fossil
736 foster
737 found
738 fox
739 fragile
740 frame
741 frequent
742 fresh
743 friend
744 fringe
745 frog
746 front
747 frost
748 frown
749 frozen
750 fruit
751 fuel
752 fun
753 funny
754 furnace
755 fury
756 future
757 gadget
758 gain
759 galaxy
760 gallery
761 game
762 gap
763 garage
764 garbage
765 garden
766 garlic
767 garment
768 gas
769 gasp
770 gate
771 gather
772 gauge
773 gaze
774 general
775 genius
776 genre
777 gentle
778 genuine
779 gesture
780 ghost
781 giant
782 gift
783 giggle
784 ginger
785 giraffe
786 girl
787 give
788 glad
789 glance
790 glare
791 glass
792 glide
793 glimpse
794 globe
795 gloom
796 glory
797 glove
798 glow
799 glue
800 goat
801 goddess
802 gold
803 good
804 goose
805 gorilla
806 gospel
807 gossip
808 govern
809 gown
810 grab
811 grace
812 grain
813 grant
814 grape
815 grass
816 gravity
817 great
818 green
819 grid
820 grief
821 grit
822 grocery
823 group
824 grow
825 grunt
826 guard
827 guess
828 guide
829 guilt
830 guitar
831 gun
832 gym
833 habit
834 hair
835 half
836 hammer
837 hamster
838 hand
839 happy
840 harbor
841 hard
842 harsh
843 harvest
844 hat
845 have
846 hawk
847 hazard
848 head
849 health
850 heart
851 heavy
852 hedgehog
853 height
854 hello
855 helmet
856 help
857 hen
858 hero
859 hidden
860 high
861 hill
862 hint
863 hip
864 hire
865 history
866 hobby
867 hockey
868 hold
869 hole
870 holiday
871 hollow
872 home
873 honey
874 hood
875 hope
876 horn
877 horror
878 horse
879 hospital
880 host
881 hotel
882 hour
883 hover
884 hub
885 huge
886 human
887 humble
888 humor
889 hundred
890 hungry
891 hunt
892 hurdle
893 hurry
894 hurt
895 husband
896 hybrid
897 ice
898 icon
899 idea
900 identify
901 idle
902 ignore
903 ill
904 illegal
905 illness
906 image
907 imitate
908 immense
909 immune
910 impact
911 impose
912 improve
913 impulse
914 inch
915 include
916 income
917 increase
918 index
919 indicate
920 indoor
921 industry
922 infant
923 inflict
924 inform
925 inhale
926 inherit
927 initial
928 inject
929 injury
930 inmate
931 inner
932 innocent
933 input
934 inquiry
935 insane
936 insect
937 inside
938 inspire
939 install
940 intact
941 interest
942 into
943 invest
944 invite
945 involve
946 iron
947 island
948 isolate
949 issue
950 item
951 ivory
952 jacket
953 jaguar
954 jar
955 jazz
956 jealous
957 jeans
958 jelly
959 jewel
960 job
961 join
962 joke
963 journey
964 joy
965 judge
966 juice
967 jump
968 jungle
969 junior
970 junk
971 just
972 kangaroo
973 keen
974 keep
975 ketchup
976 key
977 kick
978 kid
979 kidney
980 kind
981 kingdom
982 kiss
983 kit
984 kitchen
985 kite
986 kitten
987 kiwi
988 knee
989 knife
990 knock
991 know
992 lab
993 label
994 labor
995 ladder
996 lady
997 lake
998 lamp
999 language
1000 laptop
1001 large
1002 later
1003 latin
1004 laugh
1005 laundry
1006 lava
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May 01, 2020, 01:25:47 AM

... brace yourselves for disappointment, it's a set-up before the major down leg that is coming in stocks then probably bitcoin also when the vicious 2nd wave of the virus is unleashed. They are setting everyone up for maximum despondency and despair so you are begging for the vaccine. It's all a big mindfuck game and bitcoin is part of the play too.

Ka-ching ka-ching, Judas_of_Jerusalem.

LOL. Cryptotourist, how much did this clown lose shorting with his low IQ, high estrogen extrapolations of mass death and doom. Grin

Wonder which one of those big green dildos today liquidated him.  Cool

Stop being such a retarded diptwat.  Even if you disagree with Marcus regarding the virus or the impact of the virus on the economy or upon bitcoin, you don't have any evidence, beyond speculation, that Marcus is engaging in BTC shorting behaviors.. or even playing with margin or leverage.Slayer, please stop making me feel silly for hiding under my bed like an old lady all these weeks. I like pretending this is deadlier than the flu.

Just the AIDSflu bro

... just run out and catch AIDS, said no-one ever. Blood-clots, strokes, heart attacks, immune system fucked ... this thing is just getting started and they want you all to catch it. The second wave will be the deadliest, Antibody Dependent Enhancement cytokine storms (google it) have been designed in to this bioweapon so it might be v. messy.

For the record: I've never had a bitcoin trading account, never shorted bitcoin. Mined some in 2010-11, wrote an outline how-to build first GPU homebuilt miner bought a few in 2011, committed code to bitcoin-core and other crypto open source projects, on bitcointalk for 9 years, named the 'satoshi', invested in some bitcoin start-ups, minding my own business mostly. You do the credibility math.

Of course, marcus summed it up much MOAR better than me, and just his time on the forum shows way more credibility than newbies devolving into baseless personal attacks that likely clutter way more information than they inform or contribute.Obviously Marcus of Cuntus got rekt shorting. I sold some too bc I drank the doom kool aid. I already hated you Slayer but the more you are right, it just kills me inside.

Crawl out from under your bed you whining coward and you will be just fine. Look for King Bitcoin to show you the way.   Cool
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maybe Lambie is actually that tart crumbs/notlambchop who used to haunt this place
would explain the endlessly repetitive, nearly funny but not actually, meaningless trolling
Ive been hiding under my bed like many, and Im ashamed. Its not cool how Slayer pokes fun of me for it. I was really scared. Also I shorted and tried to spam about how sad it was some 85 year olds died from a virus less lethal than the flu.

Come out from under the bed buddy, everything is fine. Go long next time.  Wink
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Of course, marcus summed it up much MOAR better than me, and just his time on the forum shows way more credibility than newbies devolving into baseless personal attacks that likely clutter way more information than they inform or contribute.

Sure it's possible - as it's also entirely possible - that the account has been sold.
Careful, I'm not saying that it has.

He either sold the account, or sold his coins to early and is bitter. That bitterness likely led to all this paranoia and fear he is obsessed with peddling. Same thing happened to Roach.
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frightened man lashing out

Exactly..

He just changed from posting bearish bullshit to posting bullish bullshit, and of course, we will be more receptive to the bullish bullshit - but it is still mostly nonsensical and distracting from substance bullshit.
typical JJG tears

Well..whatever it is..its an annoying little sprat.
Im with you guys. I get upset for being scared for no good reason.
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And for those of you having a hard time wrapping you head around covid-19 and how its not as deadly as the flu...

We dont quarantine the entire planet for the flu..yet this new disease is still killing the same or more with the entire globe on lock down.  Just think about that for a minute will you.
Id rather deny science and pretend the death rate isnt flu like. Otherwise its too hard to deal with the fact I got so scared.

Yes, we dont get scared of the flu, which kills more than the Corona. Time to wake up people, you got tricked. Get mad at the messenger all you want.  Wink
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1255918585991454721

"Classifying all deaths as corona even if corona didn’t cause the death is simply a lie"

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1255909714552139776

"To be honest with you, all of the death certificates, they’re writing #COVID on all the death certificates. Whether they had a positive test, whether they didn’t.” - Michael Lanza Funeral Director, Colonial Funeral Home"

https://twitter.com/Lebeaucarnews/status/1255644604256235522
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If you got tricked, time to man up and start living life, you aren't gonna die in "12 hours", lol.

A coward dies a thousand deaths, a hodler dies but once.

Come fight me bears and doom boyz Cool

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^drama queenMy vagina also hurts when Slayer points out I got tricked into thinking this was deadlier than the flu and I should sell my coins.

This meme cant be posted enough.  Cheesy Its just too easy to put cowards in their place.
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11 days till the Halvening and all is well.  Cool
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Makes catching up on the WO so much quicker
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Makes catching up on the WO so much quickerMakes hiding under my bed so much easier.

Yep, truth hurts.  Wink Final Score: Slayer 54, Doom Babies 0
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Just like sources of pollution used to be tracked and the polluters sued. An industry of pollution detectives were just starting to spring up when the industrial age was just beginning. Fearing a total shutdown of the economy corporations worked with the government to create the EPA which protected the polluters in exchange for some superficial regulations and payoffs.

If we could track the spread of diseases and hold those people responsible accountable we could stop disease.

I mean...we know the 4 or so people that brought it to the US right? So they say. Start with them.
Oddly enough, yes. The big problem you run into though is those 4 people would be liable for 10 trillion in damages, or more properly for the infections that they wrought on others who then would be liable for others.... See now that we know the people and the vectors we can assign fines to morons who take stupid risks.

The problem though still remains that people can take on more risk then they can ever hope to pay out in their miserable lives. Thus you need a sort of holding company that will pay the debt, and then take ownership of the person and their heirs to pay the debt off. Has to be multi-generation because the loan has to be paid. And oddly enough it provides an incentive for these slaves (for they are slaves until the debt is paid) to be the best they can be not so they can be free but that someday their heirs will be free.

The holding company (which we can call the "state") could then sell a percentage of these slaves to private holders, all reported in a blockchain. You and I could then buy a slave, a percentage of the output of the slave, or possibly one of the slaves' children.

It gets interesting when you think about it. The real fun comes when slaves own percentages of other slaves and everyone is enslaved to everyone else.
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Just like sources of pollution used to be tracked and the polluters sued. An industry of pollution detectives were just starting to spring up when the industrial age was just beginning. Fearing a total shutdown of the economy corporations worked with the government to create the EPA which protected the polluters in exchange for some superficial regulations and payoffs.

If we could track the spread of diseases and hold those people responsible accountable we could stop disease.

I mean...we know the 4 or so people that brought it to the US right? So they say. Start with them.
Oddly enough, yes. The big problem you run into though is those 4 people would be liable for 10 trillion in damages, or more properly for the infections that they wrought on others who then would be liable for others.... See now that we know the people and the vectors we can assign fines to morons who take stupid risks.

The problem though still remains that people can take on more risk then they can ever hope to pay out in their miserable lives. Thus you need a sort of holding company that will pay the debt, and then take ownership of the person and their heirs to pay the debt off. Has to be multi-generation because the loan has to be paid. And oddly enough it provides an incentive for these slaves (for they are slaves until the debt is paid) to be the best they can be not so they can be free but that someday their heirs will be free.

The holding company (which we can call the "state") could then sell a percentage of these slaves to private holders, all reported in a blockchain. You and I could then buy a slave, a percentage of the output of the slave, or possibly one of the slaves' children.

It gets interesting when you think about it. The real fun comes when slaves own percentages of other slaves and everyone is enslaved to everyone else.

That's why we need to hold China responsible for the $10 Trillion or so in damages they've caused the US alone.
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May 01, 2020, 03:03:24 AM

That's why we need to hold China responsible for the $10 Trillion or so in damages they've caused the US alone.
Nope. They're responsible for the initial amount of people who came over here and should pay those people in full. Our Glorious Leader is fully responsible for hiding the damage, ,malfeasance, and lying for 2 months. That's where the big money is, and enslavement will be needed for many generations to cover that one....

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May 01, 2020, 03:26:46 AM
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Of course, marcus summed it up much MOAR better than me, and just his time on the forum shows way more credibility than newbies devolving into baseless personal attacks that likely clutter way more information than they inform or contribute.

Sure it's possible - as it's also entirely possible - that the account has been sold.
Careful, I'm not saying that it has.

Seems like something close to pure speculation on your part, and your little buddy, lambie bambie.

I have not seen any change in Marcus's posting style in recent times, and just because Marcus has more of a boner for talking about Covid than you, does not need to take away his bitcoin credentials. 

He is not saying anything inconsistent from someone who might have been involved in bitcoin since the early days.

You are simply lacking evidence, and spouting out nonsense that seemed to have largely coincided with lambie bambie going down such similar meaningless ongong attack phase in which  he had been taking on a similar project that involved bashing Marcus.... along side of some other attention seeking behaviors, involving denigrating the severity of the virus and trying to equate that with someone who might have a lack of bullish conviction or some other quasi-incoherent, largely just pumping up himself kind of approach.
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May 01, 2020, 03:49:40 AM

Aside from that I'm keeping with the trading to earn some sats/euros every day.

I had decided to change my intervals a few days ago to try and profit more from the volatility, with 25€ increments in BTC value. I increased the increment between a sell and a buy from 100€ to 150€ to lower the impact of fees (32% in fees was too much). With the wild moves since yesterday it has been very difficult to keep up with placing orders, but it's been fun, and should have been good profit (no time to evaluate yet).


Those are very tight increments, causing me to speculate that you are largely just making a lot of busy work for yourself, because your increments and intervals do not seem to be enough to even keep up with fees, and so therefore you are doing a lot of busy work merely to pay almost all of your profits in fees... and spending a lot of time too, since both your spread and your intervals are so tight.
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