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May 08, 2020, 06:24:12 PM

Just hedging his bets.


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May 08, 2020, 06:31:08 PM

I know that jbreher has a lot of respect and sympathy for members like jonoiv,

Not so much as I have respect for the truth. My support of jonoiv is to the effect that some here were repeatedly attacking not him/her, but a straw man misrepresentation of him/her.


Huh?  there is hardly any redeeming aspects to how jonoiv was behaving, and sure sometimes some of the responses to him needed to be exaggerated to make the point.

Jonoiv has come in with his various arrogant know it all assertions on a number of occassions, including when he sold his whole BTC stash (less than .5BTC or whatever mediocre amount) around $6k...during the April to June 2109 run-up.. so he was arguing for months about how inevitably the BTC price was going much lower and even suggesting $2k as inevitable or whatever...

He even had a chance to redeem himself around the March 12 crash, and so I stayed quiet for a bit while I thought that jonoiv might end up kind of turning out to have been able to redeem his position.. and even though he would NOT have appeared to be a genius, he would have appeared to be less dumb.

Instead of redeeming part or all of his position around the March 12 crash, he pulled asserted a position that was similar to mindrust.. in essence waiting for more down, and mindrust gets less bashing because mindrust has been showing himself to be a lot more genuine, and jonoiv had ongoingly been taking ridiculous and outrageous positions.  How can anyone become richie if they are continuing to play all or nothing games. 

One of the redeeming aspects about yourself, jbreher, is that even you seem to place a certain importance in terms of exercising incrementalism, and maybe that is part of the reason that we have been retaining such buddiness.. because we agree on placing a certain high amount of value on that aspect of dealing with what seems to be inevitable volatility risk in bitcoin.

Sure, maybe some of my attempts at beating up jonoiv might go a bit over the top, but not only his arrogance deserves such beatings, but also his nearly complete lack of appreciation for incrementalism.  I don't see any need to be sympathetic to that approach, even though there do seem to be some guys here that are better able to deal with some of their lack of abilities/will power to employ incrementalism tactics, but some of the guys here end up getting forced into some kinds of incrementalism because they go "all in" at various points that are a bit too much gambling.. but at least they do not leverage and they are only using cash that they can afford to lose in the event that the BTC price ends up going to zero... so their frequent "all in" ends up playing out as a kind of DCA, even though they don't necessarily appreciate that they are engaging in a kind of DCA tactic.  I am sometimes lecturing against that kind of an approach, too, but I don't have to be so imposing on that kind of approach because it is way less arrogant and does not really end up in various kinds of selling too much too soon, like the jonoiv approach has frequently demonstrated.


The rest of your post is just too silly to bother responding to.

I may have made some jokes, but in essence I am largely trying to be nice to you, even though some of your character has come into question at various times for your ongoing inclinations to argue BIG BLOCKER nonsense... so how much of a joke is that?   Not a whole lot in my opinion.. even though I have been trying to have a wee bit of fun with it.

Seems to me that I am trying to be somewhat nice about the whole thing, but I might be deluding myself, too.... and surely my interaction with you in any kind of way might cause some members to become more pissed off at me for being too nice to you..and by even recognizing any of your points... so maybe you consider some parts of my interactions with you as "silly," when I believe that I am merely attempting to find a less stressful way of making certain serious points responsive to whatever points that you may have made... maybe even hoping that you might be able to come around someday... to tone down with some of your devolutions into misleading nonsense...  perhaps?  Perhaps?  I have said that I have a lot of doubts, so it would not be right to me to concede in regards to some of your points.. you know what I mean?   
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May 08, 2020, 06:32:25 PM

Potential bart pattern playing out
https://www.tradingview.com/x/VB4GmbUv/

To steep for a Bart.

And wishful thinking BTW  Grin

Too steep? A bart is usually a straight line

Love you man but dat be Bart Simpson hairdo pattern... 😎
Dat straight line is a pig n a fart pattern imho ... 😀
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May 08, 2020, 06:49:29 PM
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Is it hard to get to 3k merits ? Imo you do not need 2000 Activity as 2000 Merits speak for themselves ^^, it just means you got a life beyond this forum Lol... No offense to other hardworking people here intended.

You are Welcome and Congratulations !  Cheesy




And thank you for your Merits Smiley
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Gotta keep you in your place (and a humble bumble) somehow.....    


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Thanks, theymos.   Wink

Well, I will not deny it, I am happy, Hero Member 588 of activity and 2000 Merits, but I would be happier if I were Legendary, I am still a newbie. Cool

(Excuse me, I can't understand what you mean by theymos)

Humor has less impact when explained...

Anywhoooo... Largely, I am thanking theymos for the rules as they currently exist...

Which largely means that ranking up takes the passage of time.. which means that the activity level of anyone who ranks up has to come up before they are allowed to get to the next rank.  In other words, there is no way to rush the passage of time, but any member could screw up his/her activity level by not staying sufficiently active or sufficiently posting on the forum in order to advance in activity points.
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May 08, 2020, 07:17:58 PM

Interesting not seeing the common if not consistent weekend profit taking from the trader types too much so far.
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May 08, 2020, 07:29:22 PM

Interesting not seeing the common if not consistent weekend profit taking from the trader types too much so far.

It seems bears are not even trying anymore. This reeks like a
Melt-up ahead. But I keep reasoning with a dip after the Halving. Because non-event after the fact (in the immediate term), just like precious halvings.
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May 08, 2020, 07:40:10 PM

While it's logical, it still shocks me.

Shroomskit still around? Or did he get sectioned yet?

Not around that I know...

Still the thread is fully correlated to BTC that’s why it’s still around  Cheesy

Except when its correlated to Covid-19. Grin
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May 08, 2020, 07:40:41 PM
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Interesting not seeing the common if not consistent weekend profit taking from the trader types too much so far.

It seems bears are not even trying anymore. This reeks like a
Melt-up ahead. But I keep reasoning with a dip after the Halving. Because non-event after the fact (in the immediate term), just like precious halvings.

I think this will happen too. It probably wouldn’t be a bad idea to sell a couple of bitcoin’s now & wait for a dip back to $7,xxx or something a month or something after the halving. You could probably buy more coin with that money.

I’m not going to do it because I don’t play that shit, I buy & HODL, buy & HODL, buy & HODL......

I wouldn’t blame anybody for trying to be clever though.
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The 'fridge' would start working again with btc at 20k-50K  Grin
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May 08, 2020, 07:49:49 PM
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Take a real good look at this one.

The S&P 500 since 2012 measured in #Bitcoin instead of dollars.

The y-axis is in log scale - so if viewed on a regular scale it's much nastier.

Stocks vs bitcoin hmm I wonder which
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Take a real good look at this one.

The S&P 500 since 2012 measured in #Bitcoin instead of dollars.

The y-axis is in log scale - so if viewed on a regular scale it's much nastier.

Stocks vs bitcoin hmm I wonder which

Looks like Deutsche Bank stock.
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May 08, 2020, 07:53:37 PM
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Masterluc/PentarhUdi just commmented his latest TA.

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In a case of new higher high (higher than 13 Feb 2020 ~ $10500) any bearish scenario will be invalidated.

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/iNSP9waV-Historical-IV-almost-completed/

Masterluc is getting even more ridiculous (if it's even possible). No shit, cap...  Grin  

That's who mindrust admitted to following, but even mindrust recognized that he needs to take responsibility for his own allocation/trading actions even if subconsciously he had been giving way too much sorcery status to someone like masterluc, who really should not be given so much credence.  

People love having their sorcerers....

My personal sorcerer, in recent times, has been jbreher.  Just do the opposite... hahahahaha.. just kidding good ole silly buddy.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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May 08, 2020, 08:02:32 PM

Interesting not seeing the common if not consistent weekend profit taking from the trader types too much so far.

It seems bears are not even trying anymore. This reeks like a
Melt-up ahead. But I keep reasoning with a dip after the Halving. Because non-event after the fact (in the immediate term), just like precious halvings.

There is also a potential issue (problem), if too many people believe that a dip is "inevitable" after the halvening, and we really only have one example of a "dip after the halvening," so not easy to draw any pattern of behavior from that, especially when such dip was exacerbated by the bitfinex hackening event... and sure we could have another such "bitcoin is imminently dead" event - but haven't we already had the "world is ending soon" scenario from the virus, so sure, maybe we will get another BIG event.. maybe, maybe?  I would not count on it.. but sure, maybe something like that could happen? Perhaps?  Perhaps?

Interesting not seeing the common if not consistent weekend profit taking from the trader types too much so far.

It seems bears are not even trying anymore. This reeks like a
Melt-up ahead. But I keep reasoning with a dip after the Halving. Because non-event after the fact (in the immediate term), just like precious halvings.

I think this will happen too. It probably wouldn’t be a bad idea to sell a couple of bitcoin’s now & wait for a dip back to $7,xxx or something a month or something after the halving. You could probably buy more coin with that money.

I’m not going to do it because I don’t play that shit, I buy & HODL, buy & HODL, buy & HODL......

I wouldn’t blame anybody for trying to be clever though.

Hahahahaha

You can just laugh at them when the fuck up... and they end up selling more than they wished, sooner than they wished. Wink


Fair enough.
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https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1258413222039891968?s=20

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WTF BRO HE RIPTS HIS HEAD WHEN HE IS STILL ALIVE

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mm brainz Grin
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqDvv1sS2os
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May 08, 2020, 08:30:21 PM
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So, even if any of us ends up panicking.....  which could happen.. not saying that it could not...  We should panic incrementally.. rather than fully.    Wink

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so we should start practicing screaming like little girls?

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May 08, 2020, 08:34:35 PM
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Sorry you had to go Joe007 ! That 6800$ Bitcoin short was painful but I'm sure your still in the money...
Enjoy the ride playa  Shocked Shocked Shocked Cool
https://cointelegraph.com/news/new-bull-market-signal-bitcoin-bearwhale-vanishes-as-btc-hits-10k

Hahahahaha

That's what you get when you try to play too BIG with kingdaddy... especially betting against it.

Good riddance... another bear reckt.. I am sure there will be quite a few more of them coming into the space, believing that they are smarter than everyone else, using traditional tools including ones that might be engaging in fractional reserves, just like there were a lot of the betting against bitcoin bears reckt in 2016 and 2017 - they had fewer tools back then, but doesn't mean that they are not going to get reckt when they try to tame the beast with their fancy new purported "bitcoin-taming" tools and bet the wrong way... the potential players are likely BIGGER... so they have to play with BIGGER amounts when they are "taming the beast" and getting reckt moar bigger.

I don't think the bear whale was rekt...after all he/she made 60 mil and only lost 20 mil.
Anyway... joey is among us imho on wall observer and has the liquidity!
Cheers homies 😎
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