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[bkbirge]

Feel good Sunday article ...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/nevermind-coinbase-big-brother-is-already-watching-your-coins

“In traditional institutions, a transaction needs to meet certain criteria in most cases to be deemed suspicious. That’s not really true for Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies though. As far as the government is concerned, the threshold of ‘suspicious’ is met as soon as cryptocurrency is involved.

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[LFC_Bitcoin]

So dead on here lately, let’s lighten the mood -

@VezauskisArturs
Me After the next #Bitcoin  halving... 😂




@seifeddine101
Push to reset the world. 

[jojo69]

^ you underestimate the circumstances of the current generation of protesters. They have been trashed on the economic scrap pile since entering the workforce, not had jobs having a pick of vocations like the boomers.

Maybe I'm out of touch, but I really don't get this whine. Economic progress is so simple it is stupid. Create something of value that someone else is willing to pay you for. End of story.

I hear you, there is a spectrum of oppression, and I am not at all sure that any US citizen is truly oppressed and without opportunity.

That said, there does come a time when pulling oneself up by ones bootstraps involves burning the lords house and seizing his lands.

[hv_]

^ you underestimate the circumstances of the current generation of protesters. They have been trashed on the economic scrap pile since entering the workforce, not had jobs having a pick of vocations like the boomers.

Maybe I'm out of touch, but I really don't get this whine. Economic progress is so simple it is stupid. Create something of value that someone else is willing to pay you for. End of story.

I hear you, there is a spectrum of oppression, and I am not at all sure that any US citizen is truly oppressed and without opportunity.

That said, there does come a time when pulling oneself up by ones bootstraps involves burning the lords house and seizing his lands.

Only proper education is burning down the stupid (animals). Ever was, its the deep driver in human nature and works free of racism

[mindrust]

The forum is so fucking dead I don't remember a time it was more deader than this and I've been around for a loong time.

[mindrust]

The forum is so fucking dead I don't remember a time it was more deader than this and I've been around for a loong time.

It's all your fault, you know.

We all lost much faith when you emptied your bags.

I was actually thinking the same thing for real even though you did a sarcasm (probably*) there.

*did you?

Pff... Don't be ridiculous. I don't have that kind of influence over people.

[DaRude]

https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1271468034931036160
https://twitter.com/SCAONTIERLLP
https://twitter.com/DanDarkPill/status/1271475981014888448?s=20

https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1271471545790222336

Just so we're clear, Craig Wright has just openly admitted (via his lawyers) to be the guy that stole 80k BTC from Mtgox. The screenshots below show the court documents indicating the "1Feex" address is where the stolen Mtgox funds were sent. What do you have to say, @CalvinAyre?

just lol

Why not first "recover" funds on BSv chain that he controls? He must be in pure desperation, last gasps for air, before he looses Kleiman case.

Yes, why not? Maybe cause Segwit coin is not BitCoin?

So he's not recovering his "stollen" funds on his own chain "cause Segwit coin is not BitCoin"? Yeah i should've known better than expect coherent sentence out of you. I also lost a few coins back in the old days who at BSv i should send letters to in order to claim them? While they're at why isn't BSv returning hacked Gox coins on their chain? Faketoshi already claimed to own Gox stolen coins from 2011, is that why?

This is how it develops next, Faketoshi sues every core dev to change the bitcoin code to get access to those two addresses (to try and set precedence) as he's been talking about. While that suit is ongoing, he looses Kleiman's case (possibly appeals, looses appeal) then he'll announce that law is law but he never received those pesky private keys, so in order to pay up to Kleimna he must win his current case against the core devs. All of the sudden his narrative changes, Kleiman becomes his best friend again and Ira deserves those coins that his sick brother helped to develop, and it's those evil core devs that are preventing him to fulfill the court ordered judgement against him. Buys himself more time to pull an elephant out of his ass to try to "make BSv great again". All good, but his one job was to find some random unclaimed UTXOs to to use in the case, and of course he fucks up by claiming Gox's stolen address. "But but but i did a google search and never saw Mark mentioning that this address was Gox's stolen funds." You almost can't help but feel bad for him, he just can't catch a break...Almost but no he deserves it all  

[somac.]

Yes, I give 80% to no 100K in 2021 and, hence, invalidation of S2F model, but not S2FX model.

Hang on, his S2F model never showed 100k in 2021. It showed 100k by 2024. That is vastly different. Sure if it followed 2017 pattern, peak might be 2021, but PlanB never claimed that. At least not to my knowledge.

From the first article, which I believe PlanB adjusted upwards later on:

The predicted market value for bitcoin after May 2020 halving is $1trn, which translates in a bitcoin price of $55,000. That is quite spectacular. I guess time will tell and we will probably know one or two years after the halving, in 2020 or 2021. A great out of sample test of this hypothesis and model.

Link to the other two articles and various podcast appearances:
https://100trillionusd.github.io/

Ok, I did I search myself as well apparently average price is meant to be 100k through 2020-2024. Yes 2021 is when he expected 100k. So we can wait till well into 2021 to decide how far off he was.

[Vectra]

The forum is so fucking dead I don't remember a time it was more deader than this and I've been around for a loong time.

indeed. I can't recall this thread ever being so dead and there were more boring times.

[somac.]

The forum is so fucking dead I don't remember a time it was more deader than this and I've been around for a loong time.

indeed. I can't recall this thread ever being so dead and there were more boring times.

2015 was pretty dead

[Vectra]

The forum is so fucking dead I don't remember a time it was more deader than this and I've been around for a loong time.

indeed. I can't recall this thread ever being so dead and there were more boring times.

2015 was pretty dead

you got me. that was when I had a pause coming here

[jbreher]

^ you underestimate the circumstances of the current generation of protesters. They have been trashed on the economic scrap pile since entering the workforce, not had jobs having a pick of vocations like the boomers.

Maybe I'm out of touch, but I really don't get this whine. Economic progress is so simple it is stupid. Create something of value that someone else is willing to pay you for. End of story.

Bulls. You'll make a shit when you don't have a capital to educate yourself for beginners. It's like saying you should run and win a race if you're good enough even if you're way behind on starting point.

Capitalist systems, specially the one in USA are made for rich to stay rich and poor to be their legal slaves forever. Sure, there will be one, two or 10 examples of people coming out by some strange way, but 99.99% of them will always serve their masters as they just didn't have a chance to do anything different. The rich will educate their kids ant best universities and prepare them to take over as next generation leafders and the rest will continue to eat their dust.

You think some poor guy coming from poor neighborhood have a chance of coming with covid-19 vaccine, either as owner of the company or as one of lead scientists working for it and make billions/millions from that business? He has my arse. He neither has a chance to educate himself to come close to those circles or to have a capital to be an entrepreneur behind it.

Nobody starts at the top. If shit needs shovelin' then make your living shoveling shit. Once you learn how to that efficiently, teach someone else how to do so as well. Employ them in the shit shovelin' business. After going through a few shit shovelers, mostly who would rather whine than actually work, you'll develop some managerial skills and money management skills. Which are transferable skills which will allow you to build a veritable shit shoveling empire.

Don't shovel shit at me telling me there are no opportunities. Plenty of shit in the world needs shovelin'.

[dragonvslinux]

When fiat becomes more popular than bitcoin 

[jbreher]

^ you underestimate the circumstances of the current generation of protesters. They have been trashed on the economic scrap pile since entering the workforce, not had jobs having a pick of vocations like the boomers.

Maybe I'm out of touch, but I really don't get this whine. Economic progress is so simple it is stupid. Create something of value that someone else is willing to pay you for. End of story.

I hear you, there is a spectrum of oppression, and I am not at all sure that any US citizen is truly oppressed and without opportunity.

That said, there does come a time when pulling oneself up by ones bootstraps involves burning the lords house and seizing his lands.

I get that. My issue was the with the assertion that the current generation of protesters have zero economic opportunities in front of them. And the implication that boomers could walk into any job they wanted. Pure twaddle.

[somac.]

When fiat becomes more popular than bitcoin 

Well if I had a choice between a bitcoin and a fiat, I'd take a bitcoin. Besides I'm more of a Japanese made fan myself 

[Toxic2040]

The forum is so fucking dead I don't remember a time it was more deader than this and I've been around for a loong time.

It's all your fault, you know.

We all lost much faith when you emptied your bags.

+1 WOsMerit

nocoiner shaming...this is the way



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Observing a battle just below $9.4k as we near the weekly close. I can see the silhouette of a nice sized sledgehammer possibly but kinda distracted doing....research. 

#dyor   
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#stronghands

[Vectra]

^ you underestimate the circumstances of the current generation of protesters. They have been trashed on the economic scrap pile since entering the workforce, not had jobs having a pick of vocations like the boomers.

Maybe I'm out of touch, but I really don't get this whine. Economic progress is so simple it is stupid. Create something of value that someone else is willing to pay you for. End of story.

Bulls. You'll make a shit when you don't have a capital to educate yourself for beginners. It's like saying you should run and win a race if you're good enough even if you're way behind on starting point.

Capitalist systems, specially the one in USA are made for rich to stay rich and poor to be their legal slaves forever. Sure, there will be one, two or 10 examples of people coming out by some strange way, but 99.99% of them will always serve their masters as they just didn't have a chance to do anything different. The rich will educate their kids ant best universities and prepare them to take over as next generation leafders and the rest will continue to eat their dust.

You think some poor guy coming from poor neighborhood have a chance of coming with covid-19 vaccine, either as owner of the company or as one of lead scientists working for it and make billions/millions from that business? He has my arse. He neither has a chance to educate himself to come close to those circles or to have a capital to be an entrepreneur behind it.

Nobody starts at the top. If shit needs shovelin' then make your living shoveling shit. Once you learn how to that efficiently, teach someone else how to do so as well. Employ them in the shit shovelin' business. After going through a few shit shovelers, mostly who would rather whine than actually work, you'll develop some managerial skills and money management skills. Which are transferable skills which will allow you to build a veritable shit shoveling empire.

Don't shovel shit at me telling me there are no opportunities. Plenty of shit in the world needs shovelin'.

Nobody starts at top my arse. Ask Trump. Or Bushs. Or Kennedys...... when you are stripped of good starting positions, good education before everything else, you can suck someone's dick. Unless you mined Bitcoin early and hodled. This world is designed to make rich richer and to transfer that to the next generation of their kids. It was always like that with kings and shit, unless it was changed by sword. But just to make another group rich and powerful, until the sword hits again.

[OutOfMemory]

So he's not recovering his "stollen" funds on his own chain "cause Segwit coin is not BitCoin"? Yeah i should've known better than expect coherent sentence out of you. I also lost a few coins back in the old days who at BSv i should send letters to in order to claim them? While they're at why isn't BSv returning hacked Gox coins on their chain? Faketoshi already claimed to own Gox stolen coins from 2011, is that why?

This is how it develops next, Faketoshi sues every core dev to change the bitcoin code to get access to those two addresses (to try and set precedence) as he's been talking about. While that suit is ongoing, he looses Kleiman's case (possibly appeals, looses appeal) then he'll announce that law is law but he never received those pesky private keys, so in order to pay up to Kleimna he must win his current case against the core devs. All of the sudden his narrative changes, Kleiman becomes his best friend again and Ira deserves those coins that his sick brother helped to develop, and it's those evil core devs that are preventing him to fulfill the court ordered judgement against him. Buys himself more time to pull an elephant out of his ass to try to "make BSv great again". All good, but his one job was to find some random unclaimed UTXOs to to use in the case, and of course he fucks up by claiming Gox's stolen address. "But but but i did a google search and never saw Mark mentioning that this address was Gox's stolen funds." You almost can't help but feel bad for him, he just can't catch a break...Almost but no he deserves it all  

SOMA analysis mode ON

He isn't really retarded. He's just an optimist. Optimism fails many times more than pessimism (aka. realism).
When Craig is seeing an opportunity in his favour, he takes it. He seems to not think further about any downsides or negative effects at all, he's taking extreme risks to achieve his goals, which in turn should reflect a more than good amount of narcissism in his psychological profile. This seems to be undeniable, when you see him talking in interviews. That's likely the reason he tries to push his stupid narratives ("i am satoshi") through, no matter what.
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SOMA analysis mode OFF

It was always like that with kings and shit, unless it was changed by sword. But just to make another group rich and powerful, until the sword hits again.

Our present form of "democracy" is even just an abstract kind of a kingdom, just that we can vote for a pre-elected "king", who has near omnipresent powers.
People are then manipulated to vote for the "right" king. So it's no more "power of people", but they still believe so.
Ex-POTUS Bush sen. and his think tank were perfecting the manipulation of voters by inducing fear.
Naturally, fear is leading to hate, which is leading to violence. If the elected "king" starts spreading hate, guess what people will be pleading for.
We already had that in many political systems, even in Europe, after the great recession. Now do the maths...

Dems, Reps, Rightists, Leftists... No big difference, all of them are using FUD to get votes. And it still seems to work out pretty well, imho.

[Toxic2040]

the weekly wall report



meh
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Nope..no hammers..just puffy clouds heavy with rain.
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Slight typo...funny however.
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#hodlsleep

[Patel]

The forum is so fucking dead I don't remember a time it was more deader than this and I've been around for a loong time.

indeed. I can't recall this thread ever being so dead and there were more boring times.

2015 was pretty dead

2012 was pretty dead