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Thread seems pretty dead for beating on a new ATH no?
Or you all to busy crossing your fingers and rubbing your hands together?
Yeah. You. Are. Right. The reason is that the last few years felt a bit depressing when looking at the price. And now, 20K just doesn't feel enough anymore. Maybe at 250K some of us will get some 'inner spark' so we can combust and burst in flames from the excitement, that the whole world is giving a flying buzz about the price. But that will not happen until all sorts of media sources start buzzing some sort of nihilist attitude towards Bitcoin, and every time the price goes up against their propaganda and eventually they capitulate in saying every week that the price will crash. Imagine telling the media every week that trump won fairly after a new recount for that week, and they would just give up after a while to try to convince the majority that anything over 50% it is actually less just because they can't accept it.
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strawbs
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November 24, 2020, 11:58:27 PM |
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As soon as those walls get pulled, we're flat-lining into Buzz Lightyear territory. And those walls won't get bought into, they'll get pulled suddenly. Science has confirmed it, with a ittle help from math with the tricky complicated bits.
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November 25, 2020, 12:00:27 AM |
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"Bitcoin... Just before making a new ATH." My next thought was about my brother in law, the roofer and nocoiner that missed out at $400-ish, regretted in 2017 and refused to be paid in bitcoin, by the time it was around $9k this year, for covering the roof of a newly built part of my home. What a shame, he should have known! But he insisted that bitcoin will never go over €10k again... What a mix of emotions. From mildly euphoric to pitiful within a second. I can never talk to him about bitcoin again. It'd be like stabbing him with a knife forged of his two biggest crypto fails... EDIT: Damn, i also just realized that i will likely end up one month late with my ATH choice at the poll I know what you mean about the nocoiners. I was going on about buying Bitcoin to enough people at $6K for too long in 2018, nocoiners thought I was deranged when it crashed to $3K cos it was obvs going to $1K right? Even though I said it would 2x or drop 50% so whatever, still great discount either way. Now they all don't want to know about encrypted money, because they actually understand that it has a fixed supply, regulated inflation, it's secure, they know it's probably going to go up in value, but to put it simply they don't have the technical skills to be their own bank. This is the main issue here I believe. That and being scared shitless over the idea of it losing half it's value within a week. I don't talk to nocoiners about Bitcoin anymore, only newcoiners. A nocoiner asked me the other day "Hows Bitcoin doing then?" with a grin that looked like I should be in tears regretting all of my life's financial decisions. I simply replied "You don't want to know!" with a laugh. Some excoiners who want to buy the top again, only to sell the bottom, sure they are alright. They are relentless. Just be a coiner, that's what I tell them. It's so much simpler that "what could of been" and "the regrets". Or just let your fiat go to shit, see if I care. Thread seems pretty dead for beating on a new ATH no?
I call troll.
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November 25, 2020, 12:00:45 AM |
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Thread seems pretty dead for beating on a new ATH no?
Or you all to busy crossing your fingers and rubbing your hands together?
Yeah. You. Are. Right. The reason is that the last few years felt a bit depressing when looking at the price. And now, 20K just doesn't feel enough anymore. Maybe at 250K some of us will get some 'inner spark' so we can combust and burst in flames from the excitement, that the whole world is giving a flying buzz about the price. But that will not happen until all sorts of media sources start buzzing some sort of nihilist attitude towards Bitcoin, and every time the price goes up against their propaganda and eventually they capitulate in saying every week that the price will crash. Imagine telling the media every week that trump won fairly after a new recount for that week, and they would just give up after a while to try to convince the majority that anything over 50% it is actually less just because they can't accept it. Depressing? Bitcoin hasn’t been “low” since like $1k.. Pffftt..
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savetherainforest
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November 25, 2020, 12:05:13 AM |
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Thread seems pretty dead for beating on a new ATH no?
Or you all to busy crossing your fingers and rubbing your hands together?
Yeah. You. Are. Right. The reason is that the last few years felt a bit depressing when looking at the price. And now, 20K just doesn't feel enough anymore. Maybe at 250K some of us will get some 'inner spark' so we can combust and burst in flames from the excitement, that the whole world is giving a flying buzz about the price. But that will not happen until all sorts of media sources start buzzing some sort of nihilist attitude towards Bitcoin, and every time the price goes up against their propaganda and eventually they capitulate in saying every week that the price will crash. Imagine telling the media every week that trump won fairly after a new recount for that week, and they would just give up after a while to try to convince the majority that anything over 50% it is actually less just because they can't accept it. Depressing? Bitcoin hasn’t been “low” since like $1k.. Pffftt.. edit(0)*: I think its more about vanity the price gives, then an actual specific disappointing, mediocre and common weak ass ATH. It is about: a inflation / deflation of the time passed < > price risen < > news hype < > praise of confidence For some of us now, the price kinda doesn't rly matter anymore. It is just a matter of hubris. A d!~k measuring contest of who can twist the flaming knife better in their enemies wound.
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philipma1957
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November 25, 2020, 12:47:16 AM |
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Thread seems pretty dead for beating on a new ATH no?
Or you all to busy crossing your fingers and rubbing your hands together?
Yeah. You. Are. Right. The reason is that the last few years felt a bit depressing when looking at the price. And now, 20K just doesn't feel enough anymore. Maybe at 250K some of us will get some 'inner spark' so we can combust and burst in flames from the excitement, that the whole world is giving a flying buzz about the price. But that will not happen until all sorts of media sources start buzzing some sort of nihilist attitude towards Bitcoin, and every time the price goes up against their propaganda and eventually they capitulate in saying every week that the price will crash. Imagine telling the media every week that trump won fairly after a new recount for that week, and they would just give up after a while to try to convince the majority that anything over 50% it is actually less just because they can't accept it. 20k today is lower then 13k was last july 2019 So if we make 25-30k this year we equal july 2019 to make dec 2017 high of 19666 now today we need to be at 78k while all of the above is based on mining profits and most coins are already mined mining still has some influence on liquidity of btc. I would not get very excited until we clear 50k. which is why most 20k speak is meh who cares.
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November 25, 2020, 01:15:16 AM |
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Thread seems pretty dead for beating on a new ATH no?
I call troll. In approximately the past four days, I missed about a zillion pages of WO just because it is moving too fast, and I do not currently have time even to skim it. Is that itself a market indicator? ;-)
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November 25, 2020, 01:15:43 AM |
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Thread seems pretty dead for beating on a new ATH no?
Or you all to busy crossing your fingers and rubbing your hands together?
Yeah. You. Are. Right. The reason is that the last few years felt a bit depressing when looking at the price. And now, 20K just doesn't feel enough anymore. Maybe at 250K some of us will get some 'inner spark' so we can combust and burst in flames from the excitement, that the whole world is giving a flying buzz about the price. But that will not happen until all sorts of media sources start buzzing some sort of nihilist attitude towards Bitcoin, and every time the price goes up against their propaganda and eventually they capitulate in saying every week that the price will crash. Imagine telling the media every week that trump won fairly after a new recount for that week, and they would just give up after a while to try to convince the majority that anything over 50% it is actually less just because they can't accept it. 20k today is lower then 13k was last july 2019 So if we make 25-30k this year we equal july 2019 to make dec 2017 high of 19666 now today we need to be at 78k while all of the above is based on mining profits and most coins are already mined mining still has some influence on liquidity of btc. I would not get very excited until we clear 50k. which is why most 20k speak is meh who cares. I understand where you are coming from, but super profits attained in 2017 are unlikely to EVER occur in terms of profitability for a simple reason that a crazy amount of machines will be produced at 80K, which would decrease profitability. In fact, best times for mining in terms of btc gained were not in 2017, as you know. in dollar terms, of course this happens any time when prices skyed, but miner production did not catch up yet and then we had situations that you could not find a miner for a reasonable price. I checked ebay- very high prices for used miners. S17-$2000...wow.
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November 25, 2020, 01:16:45 AM |
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CORN pardoned!! ===> 20k gobble gobble
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philipma1957
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November 25, 2020, 01:44:18 AM |
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Thread seems pretty dead for beating on a new ATH no?
Or you all to busy crossing your fingers and rubbing your hands together?
Yeah. You. Are. Right. The reason is that the last few years felt a bit depressing when looking at the price. And now, 20K just doesn't feel enough anymore. Maybe at 250K some of us will get some 'inner spark' so we can combust and burst in flames from the excitement, that the whole world is giving a flying buzz about the price. But that will not happen until all sorts of media sources start buzzing some sort of nihilist attitude towards Bitcoin, and every time the price goes up against their propaganda and eventually they capitulate in saying every week that the price will crash. Imagine telling the media every week that trump won fairly after a new recount for that week, and they would just give up after a while to try to convince the majority that anything over 50% it is actually less just because they can't accept it. 20k today is lower then 13k was last july 2019 So if we make 25-30k this year we equal july 2019 to make dec 2017 high of 19666 now today we need to be at 78k while all of the above is based on mining profits and most coins are already mined mining still has some influence on liquidity of btc. I would not get very excited until we clear 50k. which is why most 20k speak is meh who cares. I understand where you are coming from, but super profits attained in 2017 are unlikely to EVER occur in terms of profitability for a simple reason that a crazy amount of machines will be produced at 80K, which would decrease profitability. In fact, best times for mining in terms of btc gained were not in 2017, as you know. in dollar terms, of course this happens any time when prices skyed, but miner production did not catch up yet and then we had situations that you could not find a miner for a reasonable price. I checked ebay- very high prices for used miners. S17-$2000...wow. Well sure to expect dec 2017 profits now today is to expect a price of 78k. But on Nov 24 2017 price was 8215 So it moved to 19666 on dec 17 2017 19666/8215 = a 2.399 to 1 factor so 2.3939 x 19200 = 45,963 which would really be nice.. "We will see what we shall see". This a quote of my late father-in-law as it was a favorite saying of his and I think it fits here. I googled it and it seems he was quoting this " We shall see what we shall see. We have the start now; the developments will follow in time." by Wilhelm Röntgen
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November 25, 2020, 01:53:58 AM |
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was trying to just make a cool rocket gif..something else happened as well think i will call it ' oh be still my beating heart for is this not love?' crafted from this video..guy does amazing work +1 WOsMerit Ryan Cosmic Perspective Rocket Theater #1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkAVomgJo1E------- evening charts #dyor 1h 4h #stronghands
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Thread seems pretty dead for beating on a new ATH no?
Or you all to busy crossing your fingers and rubbing your hands together?
Yeah. You. Are. Right. The reason is that the last few years felt a bit depressing when looking at the price. And now, 20K just doesn't feel enough anymore. Maybe at 250K some of us will get some 'inner spark' so we can combust and burst in flames from the excitement, that the whole world is giving a flying buzz about the price. But that will not happen until all sorts of media sources start buzzing some sort of nihilist attitude towards Bitcoin, and every time the price goes up against their propaganda and eventually they capitulate in saying every week that the price will crash. Imagine telling the media every week that trump won fairly after a new recount for that week, and they would just give up after a while to try to convince the majority that anything over 50% it is actually less just because they can't accept it. 20k today is lower then 13k was last july 2019 So if we make 25-30k this year we equal july 2019 to make dec 2017 high of 19666 now today we need to be at 78k while all of the above is based on mining profits and most coins are already mined mining still has some influence on liquidity of btc. I would not get very excited until we clear 50k. which is why most 20k speak is meh who cares. I understand where you are coming from, but super profits attained in 2017 are unlikely to EVER occur in terms of profitability for a simple reason that a crazy amount of machines will be produced at 80K, which would decrease profitability. In fact, best times for mining in terms of btc gained were not in 2017, as you know. in dollar terms, of course this happens any time when prices skyed, but miner production did not catch up yet and then we had situations that you could not find a miner for a reasonable price. I checked ebay- very high prices for used miners. S17-$2000...wow. Well sure to expect dec 2017 profits now today is to expect a price of 78k. But on Nov 24 2017 price was 8215 So it moved to 19666 on dec 17 2017 19666/8215 = a 2.399 to 1 factor so 2.3939 x 19200 = 45,963 which would really be nice.. "We will see what we shall see". This a quote of my late father-in-law as it was a favorite saying of his and I think it fits here. I googled it and it seems he was quoting this " We shall see what we shall see. We have the start now; the developments will follow in time." by Wilhelm Röntgen I still don't get why you are comparing 2020 to 2017. 2016 would be the corresponding cycle year.
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philipma1957
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November 25, 2020, 02:34:26 AM |
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Thread seems pretty dead for beating on a new ATH no?
Or you all to busy crossing your fingers and rubbing your hands together?
Yeah. You. Are. Right. The reason is that the last few years felt a bit depressing when looking at the price. And now, 20K just doesn't feel enough anymore. Maybe at 250K some of us will get some 'inner spark' so we can combust and burst in flames from the excitement, that the whole world is giving a flying buzz about the price. But that will not happen until all sorts of media sources start buzzing some sort of nihilist attitude towards Bitcoin, and every time the price goes up against their propaganda and eventually they capitulate in saying every week that the price will crash. Imagine telling the media every week that trump won fairly after a new recount for that week, and they would just give up after a while to try to convince the majority that anything over 50% it is actually less just because they can't accept it. 20k today is lower then 13k was last july 2019 So if we make 25-30k this year we equal july 2019 to make dec 2017 high of 19666 now today we need to be at 78k while all of the above is based on mining profits and most coins are already mined mining still has some influence on liquidity of btc. I would not get very excited until we clear 50k. which is why most 20k speak is meh who cares. I understand where you are coming from, but super profits attained in 2017 are unlikely to EVER occur in terms of profitability for a simple reason that a crazy amount of machines will be produced at 80K, which would decrease profitability. In fact, best times for mining in terms of btc gained were not in 2017, as you know. in dollar terms, of course this happens any time when prices skyed, but miner production did not catch up yet and then we had situations that you could not find a miner for a reasonable price. I checked ebay- very high prices for used miners. S17-$2000...wow. Well sure to expect dec 2017 profits now today is to expect a price of 78k. But on Nov 24 2017 price was 8215 So it moved to 19666 on dec 17 2017 19666/8215 = a 2.399 to 1 factor so 2.3939 x 19200 = 45,963 which would really be nice.. "We will see what we shall see". This a quote of my late father-in-law as it was a favorite saying of his and I think it fits here. I googled it and it seems he was quoting this " We shall see what we shall see. We have the start now; the developments will follow in time." by Wilhelm Röntgen I still don't get why you are comparing 2020 to 2017. 2016 would be the corresponding cycle year. well if every one is all hot and botherd we are approaching an all time high of 20k they are comparing todays price to 2017. I trying to show BFD as 20k is simply not the number to think about. 75-78k or 25-30k would be numbers to think about. another example the dow hit 30k today so in 2017 what was the dow on nov 24. about 23450
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November 25, 2020, 02:43:06 AM |
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Alright. No $20k USD/BTC today. Everybody pack it up for the day.
We try again in the morning.
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November 25, 2020, 02:53:53 AM |
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Alright. No $20k USD/BTC today. Everybody pack it up for the day.
We try again in the morning.
This is good luck, I just know it!
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philipma1957
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November 25, 2020, 02:54:18 AM |
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Alright. No $20k USD/BTC today. Everybody pack it up for the day.
We try again in the morning.
25k by dec 14th
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November 25, 2020, 02:58:31 AM |
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Anyone know why Max Keiser keeps saying 28k? What's special about 28k?
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November 25, 2020, 03:00:40 AM Last edit: November 25, 2020, 03:21:11 AM by Biodom Merited by vapourminer (1) |
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Anyone know why Max Keiser keeps saying 28k? What's special about 28k?
BETI predicted 28K last time (2017), but it got derailed by the CME futures. We should have extended there then. Right now-a number of no particular importance, or maybe of some importance to Max...makes him a $ billionaire ...or something. Albeit, it is not clear if some large scale btc buyers still have most or all. I recall that he was saying that he bought at 10c or something to that extent. Winklevoss twins bought 120K Palihapytia bought unclear amounts (maybe as much as 3% at some point, definitely sold or invested some) Novo bought 30K, who knows if sold or held. Morehead-same, probably invested all in his fund. Some other Fortress guy, name escapes me (Hill?)-also 30K Draper bought 30K, unclear if he still has it or "invested" in VC stuff. new known buyers: Saylor man 17K for himself, 38K for the company that he is 26% owner of (with controlling shares) Some Mexican billionaire said that he bought with 10% of his liquid funds (total wealth 13 bil, who knows the liquid portion, maybe as little as 10%)
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