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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 3 (3.8%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.3%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (2.5%)
$85K to $90K - 9 (11.3%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (15%)
$95K to $100K - 13 (16.3%)
>$100K - 40 (50%)
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August 31, 2014, 05:30:58 PM

bitcoin stahp
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August 31, 2014, 05:31:10 PM

what is happening @BTC-e shows us how fucked up these business owners they can get sometimes, in a normal fair world, the Admins notice the unusual activity from this bot and they coordinately ac, one way is by blocking the API access temporarily to prevent the bot from losing all the owner's money, I am sure the owner would be really thankful and the positive impression would be felt and reflected on all customers, but because this is Bitcoin and BTC-e we are talking about, they don't give a fuck and they are sitting happily watching the poor guy losing all this kind of money.

Are there such "lifeguards" in the common stock exchanges?  I would guess that their "terms of service" say that they will not be responsible for client screw-ups, not even to the extent of refunding their fees or blocking them.  If they did help some clients, it would be hard for them to draw the line ("sorry, but your mistake does not qualify for refund because it was not stupid enough").
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August 31, 2014, 05:32:41 PM

what is happening @BTC-e shows us how fucked up these business owners they can get sometimes, in a normal fair world, the Admins notice the unusual activity from this bot and they coordinately ac, one way is by blocking the API access temporarily to prevent the bot from losing all the owner's money, I am sure the owner would be really thankful and the positive impression would be felt and reflected on all customers, but because this is Bitcoin and BTC-e we are talking about, they don't give a fuck and they are sitting happily watching the poor guy losing all this kind of money.

if someone failed with his own trading bot why should the exchange bother to bail him out?

bailing out a customer and preventing a customers from losing due unexpected/malicious activity on his account is not the same, now everything else depends on your morals.
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August 31, 2014, 05:33:37 PM

Hidden bid wall at $474 on Bitfinex and hidden ask wall at $475. Quickly everybody go under cover  Smiley

Edit: Both gone.
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August 31, 2014, 05:33:49 PM

This fucking market is killing me mane... Undecided

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August 31, 2014, 05:36:20 PM

what is happening @BTC-e shows us how fucked up these business owners they can get sometimes, in a normal fair world, the Admins notice the unusual activity from this bot and they coordinately ac, one way is by blocking the API access temporarily to prevent the bot from losing all the owner's money, I am sure the owner would be really thankful and the positive impression would be felt and reflected on all customers, but because this is Bitcoin and BTC-e we are talking about, they don't give a fuck and they are sitting happily watching the poor guy losing all this kind of money.

if someone failed with his own trading bot why should the exchange bother to bail him out?

bailing out a customer and preventing a customers from losing due unexpected/malicious activity on his account is not the same, now everything else depends on your morals.

Problem is, doing so presents a huge liability to the exchange. "Hey, why did you cut my API access, this bot's behavior was by design."

There are many things wrong with existing exchanges, but not turning off some trader's bot is not one of them, imo.
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August 31, 2014, 05:36:54 PM

This fucking market is killing me mane... Undecided



should have listened to me to sell at $620 or $5xx
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August 31, 2014, 05:37:17 PM

Phew... going down a bit further. Yeah, I guess we're done for the time being. Let's just throw away our hope and just wait for final capitulation. The bear party has just gone to eleven... :/
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August 31, 2014, 05:39:02 PM

what is happening @BTC-e shows us how fucked up these business owners they can get sometimes, in a normal fair world, the Admins notice the unusual activity from this bot and they coordinately ac, one way is by blocking the API access temporarily to prevent the bot from losing all the owner's money, I am sure the owner would be really thankful and the positive impression would be felt and reflected on all customers, but because this is Bitcoin and BTC-e we are talking about, they don't give a fuck and they are sitting happily watching the poor guy losing all this kind of money.

Are there such "lifeguards" in the common stock exchanges?  I would guess that their "terms of service" say that they will not be responsible for client screw-ups, not even to the extent of refunding their fees or blocking them.  If they did help some clients, it would be hard for them to draw the line ("sorry, but your mistake does not qualify for refund because it was not stupid enough").

they do halt account trading for many failed login attempts, they do ban accounts for above frequent API calls, they do ban IPs sometimes for stupid reasons, so why wouldn't they ban an API key for unusual activity ?
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August 31, 2014, 05:47:19 PM

what is happening @BTC-e shows us how fucked up these business owners they can get sometimes, in a normal fair world, the Admins notice the unusual activity from this bot and they coordinately ac, one way is by blocking the API access temporarily to prevent the bot from losing all the owner's money, I am sure the owner would be really thankful and the positive impression would be felt and reflected on all customers, but because this is Bitcoin and BTC-e we are talking about, they don't give a fuck and they are sitting happily watching the poor guy losing all this kind of money.

Are there such "lifeguards" in the common stock exchanges?  I would guess that their "terms of service" say that they will not be responsible for client screw-ups, not even to the extent of refunding their fees or blocking them.  If they did help some clients, it would be hard for them to draw the line ("sorry, but your mistake does not qualify for refund because it was not stupid enough").

The actual stock exchange wouldn't care at all, but the user's broker would most likely notice the odd behavior and call up their client to see what's up.
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August 31, 2014, 05:47:45 PM

what is happening @BTC-e shows us how fucked up these business owners they can get sometimes, in a normal fair world, the Admins notice the unusual activity from this bot and they coordinately ac, one way is by blocking the API access temporarily to prevent the bot from losing all the owner's money, I am sure the owner would be really thankful and the positive impression would be felt and reflected on all customers, but because this is Bitcoin and BTC-e we are talking about, they don't give a fuck and they are sitting happily watching the poor guy losing all this kind of money.

Are there such "lifeguards" in the common stock exchanges?  I would guess that their "terms of service" say that they will not be responsible for client screw-ups, not even to the extent of refunding their fees or blocking them.  If they did help some clients, it would be hard for them to draw the line ("sorry, but your mistake does not qualify for refund because it was not stupid enough").

they do halt account trading for many failed login attempts, they do ban accounts for above frequent API calls, they do ban IPs sometimes for stupid reasons, so why wouldn't they ban an API key for unusual activity ?


yes, for security reasons they ban your account.

but incompetence is a whole new level.
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August 31, 2014, 05:52:45 PM

Any bets on how low we will go?
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August 31, 2014, 05:57:25 PM

Any bets on how low we will go?

Poll: Will we drop to sub $400 today? Inside info about GABI shorting BTC?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=764042.0
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August 31, 2014, 05:57:41 PM

I'm a buyer this morning...small buys on 5 separate occasions.

Feels goooooood!  Tasty!

Even though I keep buying and hodling.. similar to you, I don't feel good about it... I mean overall, I am still confident, but it still makes me nervous to have my whole BTC holdings falling in value like this - even though I am fairly certain it is temporary.. probably less than 6 months, at most.
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August 31, 2014, 05:58:01 PM

Any bets on how low we will go?
Well, 450$ has been the bottom since April 26, when China stopped "banning" bitcoin...
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August 31, 2014, 05:59:32 PM


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August 31, 2014, 06:00:44 PM

We might see a retest of 442 but I doubt we can break that support. Last days of august + week-end + labor's day makes a rather obvious bear-trap.
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August 31, 2014, 06:01:29 PM

i hope you get your cheap coins @ 450 or 430 or 390...problem from down there there is no rush recovery...only enthusiats are still buying...
if people would really believe that gabi has an incredible impact the price would be much higher, or do you think they want to buy AFTER gabi puts in their 200mil?

Exactly, good news has been priced in long time ago. If not then the market acts in a unique and irrational way.

HOW could good news be priced in "long time ago" if the various good news is continuing to develop on an ongoing and seemingly unexpected basis... some of this good news was NOT really expected so it is difficult to fathom how it could be "priced in long time ago"?
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August 31, 2014, 06:01:52 PM

Wow! Hope I make it home in time to buy!

#btc4lyf
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August 31, 2014, 06:03:44 PM

Wow! Hope I make it home in time to buy!

#btc4lyf
i think its bouncing back now
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