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April 23, 2019, 05:02:01 PM
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yes my lack of patience  Grin Grin,
i had another questions ?
1)in other pools like antpool you can see  how many of u r shares has been accepted and how many rejected ( stale or ...) , i did want to know how can i see my stale shares on slushpool
2) i didnt change my miners min difficulty and it is 128 from the first day isn't it less?  I have 30 ,M3 miners my scoring hash rate is about 358 some how it is ok in comparison to my miners capacity , so can this mean difficulty is correct and no need to be changed whether automatically or manually ?
tnx if any one can help me Huh Huh

I would say to stay away from both antpool and slushpool - i have used both in the past and slush is my failover currently for a set of 5 miners. but I would not use them for primary.

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April 24, 2019, 08:32:52 AM
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yes my lack of patience  Grin Grin,
i had another questions ?
1)in other pools like antpool you can see  how many of u r shares has been accepted and how many rejected ( stale or ...) , i did want to know how can i see my stale shares on slushpool
2) i didnt change my miners min difficulty and it is 128 from the first day isn't it less?  I have 30 ,M3 miners my scoring hash rate is about 358 some how it is ok in comparison to my miners capacity , so can this mean difficulty is correct and no need to be changed whether automatically or manually ?
tnx if any one can help me Huh Huh

I would say to stay away from both antpool and slushpool - i have used both in the past and slush is my failover currently for a set of 5 miners. but I would not use them for primary.

I have 20 miners - 5 point to kano.is, 10 are pointing to viabtc and the other 5 at various pools mining non btc sha256 coins.

well I think kano makes pay outs every month , due to some reasons i cant wait one month ,

I check at btc.com that it is written ( Mining Earning  -----   1T * 24H = 0.00003958 BTC )

I checked slushpool ( currently using) and  antpool (which i used to mine before ) their payment is same as above
1)I thnik most of people are against Antpool bcz its policy is against the health of btc network and if there is something else please  let me know ?
2)I think they take 2% fee, imagine if I am supposed to earn 1BTC per month ( take it equal to 5300$) so they will get 126$ monthly is my calculations correct  ? If I am ok with this amount of fee is there another reason that i shouldn't mine there 


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April 24, 2019, 10:33:49 AM
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If I am ok with this amount of fee is there another reason that i shouldn't mine there 
Both slush and Antpool and most of the large pools create unnecessary empty blocks.

Luck finding blocks is not affected by the size of the block, but they choose to make empty blocks anyway.

Each time they do this, that's rewards lost for PPLNS miners, and extra transactions not confirmed until later.

This has been discussed a lot in the past, there's even a thread about it, but most people seem to think it's ok to ignore for some unknown reason.
If you go back to Jan 2018, txn fees were around 30% extra, so that's a lot of BTC to throw away on a single empty block.

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April 24, 2019, 12:42:23 PM
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If I am ok with this amount of fee is there another reason that i shouldn't mine there 
Both slush and Antpool and most of the large pools create unnecessary empty blocks.

Luck finding blocks is not affected by the size of the block, but they choose to make empty blocks anyway.

Each time they do this, that's rewards lost for PPLNS miners, and extra transactions not confirmed until later.

This has been discussed a lot in the past, there's even a thread about it, but most people seem to think it's ok to ignore for some unknown reason.
If you go back to Jan 2018, txn fees were around 30% extra, so that's a lot of BTC to throw away on a single empty block.

^^^^^this times 100%

and Kano does not make payouts just once a month SMH - he makes payouts at every block that is found and he never has empty blocks.  It can go long spells between blocks but the payout is higher as well. 

@john139 -- using what you posted of  1T * 24H = 0.00003958 BTC - If I apply that to my miners (I have 80 TH on Kano) I would make .0981584 before 2% fees and .09619523 after fees. with Kano pool, if the block is only 12.5 in rewards (no tx fees) which there are always tx fees but as they vary I will simply use 12.5, and the same TH I will get .033 per block found before his .9% fee and .032703 per block after fee. So if we find 3 blocks in a month I am thus even with slush/antpool etc that you got the 1T * 24H = 0.00003958 BTC from.

And if we find more than 3 blocks, I am ahead. Now this can vary by pool size - the calculations are based on current pool hash rate. however as it usually does, when the hash rate increases and my payouts decrease, the blocks are then also found more frequently and it tends to break even.

the only hard part is waiting for it to ramp up while the pool hashrate is so small.

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July 24, 2019, 10:02:50 PM
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New mining stack on the way! Secure, transparent and flexible

We are designing a new mining protocol, Stratum v2, with the aim of addressing all the major issues of the current one. To provide a complete mining stack — open-source and compatible throughout — we have also taken a big step and started designing the new mining software in Rust language.

Now, we’re almost done with the design and would like to invite you all to participate in our effort to create this open standard. We’d be delighted to listen to your needs to find out what features you’d like to see in the new mining package.


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Last edit: July 28, 2019, 01:33:37 PM by o_solo_miner
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With that shit on Java, JSFile, Cloudflare I will never look after it.
When will you trash this tracking shit?

If you realy wan't to inform people, paste it here in your thread.

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New mining stack on the way! Secure, transparent and flexible

...
GBT already exists, and no pool or miner has used GBT to allow people to choose their own transactions.
It either leads to a massive bloat in the data sent to the miner, or each miner requires access to their own bitcoin node, which will lead to lost blocks due to the fact that the pool should be configured to handle work changes way better than a miner could.

There is no reason to choose transactions, since it will always be based on ignorance, bias, prejudice, intolerance or corporate interests.
The best example of that being LukeJr putting such prejudice into the ubuntu release of bitcoin years ago.

If your pool's transactions are not already taken, unbiased, from the mempool of the best paying transactions at the time you generate the work, but instead include bias in that choice, then there is a problem with the pool and miners should mine somewhere else.

The original flaw in stratum was the fact that the work did not include the work difficulty.
Slush wouldn't change that coz he said it was too much work for him to fix his pool, thus stratum was released with that flaw.
See the original stratum discussion thread for that argument.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108533.0

The miner already supplies stats about itself via the API I designed and wrote, that there are many tools available to see those stats.
The pool already can determine the hash rate of the miner and when it submitted the last share.
The miner providing these API statistics to the pool is, to be blunt, completely unnecessary and thus will only lead to nefarious use of this data by the pool.

Your current firmware also includes a major well known security risk - xnsub.

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October 01, 2019, 08:09:43 AM
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been a bit of a rough run for Slushpool? long time between blocks..............
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October 01, 2019, 02:57:40 PM
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a bit? lol very bad luck, back to back to back 11-13 hr mining cycles, hashpower went from 6.3 to 5 20-25%
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I am still waiting for Slush to pay out the 18 months or so of merged mining that they are holding. They need to just change it and say that they do not do merged mining since they stopped paying it out in Jan/Feb of 2018

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October 01, 2019, 09:04:21 PM
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a bit? lol very bad luck, back to back to back 11-13 hr mining cycles, hashpower went from 6.3 to 5 20-25%

well, i was being semi polite..... but you are correct, pretty savage with those 11-16hr! mining cycles

I dont mind the over all hash drop, helps with my rewards, but it didnt make a difference to get blocks, even when it was up overall!


I am still waiting for Slush to pay out the 18 months or so of merged mining that they are holding. They need to just change it and say that they do not do merged mining since they stopped paying it out in Jan/Feb of 2018

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October 01, 2019, 10:17:10 PM
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these times are perfect to jump on Kano and bring the hash up on that pool..... until the luck turns and you miss out hahaha
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October 02, 2019, 01:12:37 AM
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these times are perfect to jump on Kano and bring the hash up on that pool..... until the luck turns and you miss out hahaha
Hahaha omg...smooth think I might need to do some research and switch pools this luck is terrible in a midst of another block approaching 7 hrs again 4th night in a row or or 4/5 nights last 250 luck gonna be under 90 pretty soon one more of those lol and 10% over 250 blocks is huge (to me)
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October 02, 2019, 01:19:23 AM
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these times are perfect to jump on Kano and bring the hash up on that pool..... until the luck turns and you miss out hahaha
Hahaha omg...smooth think I might need to do some research and switch pools this luck is terrible in a midst of another block approaching 7 hrs again 4th night in a row or or 4/5 nights last 250 luck gonna be under 90 pretty soon one more of those lol and 10% over 250 blocks is huge (to me)

i would nearly expect it to correct, and come storming back, to even out. wouldnt wanna miss out on that. we can either play it safe and sit, or try and time it.
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October 02, 2019, 02:41:09 AM
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i didnt know that they did merged mining .... ive got some payouts coming, 
jumped to btc.com pool a while ago before the 6.4 eh down to 4.9 eh 
it did seem i had higher payouts with them even with the longer then usual times
with the merged setup paying out id prob come back  Shocked
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October 02, 2019, 02:43:44 AM
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i didnt know that they did merged mining .... ive got some payouts coming, 
jumped to btc.com pool a while ago before the 6.4 eh down to 4.9 eh 
it did seem i had higher payouts with them even with the longer then usual times
with the merged setup paying out id prob come back  Shocked

just go to rewards and toggle the nmc you will see they stopped payouts back in early 2018 though they still have it listed as "pending"

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October 21, 2019, 12:04:06 PM
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i didnt know that they did merged mining .... ive got some payouts coming, 
jumped to btc.com pool a while ago before the 6.4 eh down to 4.9 eh 
it did seem i had higher payouts with them even with the longer then usual times
with the merged setup paying out id prob come back  Shocked

well slush pays pplns not pps so the smaller the pool the more you get per block found. so if luck is good you do ok. I do not think slush is sitting with good luck atm - I just looked and they are at over 13 hours for their current block.

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Yeah, 16+ hour blocks are getting the new normal it seems. I wonder when the day comes we will only find 1 block or no block at all.

For every period with the same difficulty I calculate what I should have gotten and what the payout on Slush was.
For 11.890.594.958.796 it was 91,6%, for 12.759.819.404.409 it was 90,0% and this period with only 2,5 days to go it will probably even be lower.

But hey, April, May and June were good months, and we don't even have to go back that far to "even out".
But I have to admit, on Slush three periods around 90% is a really bad stroke of luck judging from my experience.


I never really cared much about the NMC, but after this post:
The NMC rewards for the previous year will be paid out within a few weeks.
We are very sorry for the delay.
And with the luck being what it is, an extra payout would be very welcome.

Come on guys, I really like what you are doing with Braiins OS, but please give the pool some attention too.
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hi total newb here, bitcoin fan and miner, i have join slush pool seem to me at the worst time to see there luck... im just trying to understand something if there is 57eh mined at this time (from google) and slush pool has 4.5 eh witch represent 11% of the world mining power why does slush only end up on average with 7 block a day (from my own statistic) rather than 15 block (11% from is hash power). i know the luck is bad but that much?? i mean it is half the expected return no?
as i said im a total neb so maybe i dont understand how thing work...   
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hi total newb here, bitcoin fan and miner, i have join slush pool seem to me at the worst time to see there luck... im just trying to understand something if there is 57eh mined at this time (from google) and slush pool has 4.5 eh witch represent 11% of the world mining power why does slush only end up on average with 7 block a day (from my own statistic) rather than 15 block (11% from is hash power). i know the luck is bad but that much?? i mean it is half the expected return no?
as i said im a total neb so maybe i dont understand how thing work...   
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None of the pools (except mine) show the statistics related to multiple block results on the pool that would tell you if anything is ok or not.

It's not hard to do and I guess you could do it yourself, but I guess either they're all statistically challenged, or like to hide what's going on.
These stats also show to the pool operators if something is going wrong.
Though none of them clearly understand how to do a reasonable level of analysis to determine problems.

Even slush's so called 'proof' is not an actual proof of hash rate.
Slush has multiple cases where things have gone wrong and they've ignored it, even since they added their fake 'proof'.

Though I guess since all the other pools are just as bad or worse (some have no statistics at all and you could never know if anything was wrong) you have to put up with the poor quality service you get ...

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