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April 07, 2017, 04:41:23 PM
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Slush,

Is it possible for you to set up the pool to allow ASICBOOST? I have no idea what this would entail, I assume my S9 firmware would need an accommodating upgrade as well.

I would like to compete fairly with miners who have this covert ASICBOOST enabled.

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April 07, 2017, 07:46:06 PM
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Slush,

Is it possible for you to set up the pool to allow ASICBOOST? I have no idea what this would entail
A pool has nothing to do with ASICBOOST!
Don't listen to trolls (blindly) and do your homework on the matter first.
(hint) this is over an year old (patented) optimisation for mining hardware and software - not illegal to use (in production) if you pay the patent fee.

EDIT: Just to make it clear - it is illegal to use it without paying the fee (as with any other patented technology), but it is not a hack as it was published, probably because of misunderstanding.

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April 07, 2017, 08:02:12 PM
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Slush,

Is it possible for you to set up the pool to allow ASICBOOST? I have no idea what this would entail
A pool has nothing to do with ASICBOOST!
Don't listen to trolls (blindly) and do your homework on the matter first.
(hint) this is over an year old (patented) optimisation - not illegal to use (in production) if you pay the patent fee.

Well I thought one has to mine empty blocks to take advantage of covert ASICBOOST (?), therefore I figured the pool would have to organize that in their mining code.

Also, a Patent in China has no jurisdiction outside of China. I'm not in China, I would like to use ASICBOOST and compete on an even playing field.

Preferably, Segwit is activated ASAP and it is rendered obsolete...

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April 07, 2017, 08:20:40 PM
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An empty block is bad for the network, as it does not contain any transactions (while the sole purpose of the blockchain is to secure the transactions), but (almost) every pool needs to provide to it's miners some data to work on initially (after a block is found) and an empty block is the fastest way to do it (with or without ASICBOOOST). Mining only empty blocks (with or without ASICBOOST) is bad for the network (and that can be considered a hack), but it can be easily confirmed from the blocks mined from the pool and no pool will probably do it anyway (and loose the transaction fees), so (IMHO) this is simple trolling around this matter.

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April 07, 2017, 11:00:40 PM
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An empty block is bad for the network, as it does not contain any transactions (while the sole purpose of the blockchain is to secure the transactions), but (almost) every pool needs to provide to it's miners some data to work on initially (after a block is found) and an empty block is the fastest way to do it (with or without ASICBOOOST). Mining only empty blocks (with or without ASICBOOST) is bad for the network (and that can be considered a hack), but it can be easily confirmed from the blocks mined from the pool and no pool will probably do it anyway (and loose the transaction fees), so (IMHO) this is simple trolling around this matter.

Sure, I agree and understand empty blocks are bad for the network. I don't want to mine empty blocks, I'd be at Antpool if I did. I'm not trying to troll, I just want to compete with the other cheaters, until the problem is fixed, is all.

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April 08, 2017, 09:11:30 AM
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If you really want this to work and get the consensus support from the people mining in SlushPool, submit a proposal on their Development Corner. Let's see how it goes from there.
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April 08, 2017, 06:02:47 PM
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I'm not exactly computer literate, so I would appreciate any help re setting up a mining proxy.

I am currently mining on Slush with a cellular internet connection and I want to minimize my bandwidth use, since data is expensive. Currently I've boosted my miner difficulty to the maximum setting and have managed to minimize my bandwidth to about 4.3 mB a day / Antminer S9. This is not good enough however, I am soon going to be doing a rather sizable farm expansion.

I understand I might be able to point my Antminers through a proxy and minimize my bandwidth. I've been fumbling around trying to figure out how to set it up, Slushpool has some info in the helpcenter about using the Proxy, but I still am having problems figuring it out. In fact I have no idea what I'm doing, I have no background in this kind of stuff.

If anyone has any info or can refer me to a how-to or anything helpful, I would be much obliged. Feel free to PM me 

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April 08, 2017, 06:37:13 PM
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I'm not exactly computer literate, so I would appreciate any help re setting up a mining proxy.

I am currently mining on Slush with a cellular internet connection and I want to minimize my bandwidth use, since data is expensive. Currently I've boosted my miner difficulty to the maximum setting and have managed to minimize my bandwidth to about 4.3 mB a day / Antminer S9. This is not good enough however, I am soon going to be doing a rather sizable farm expansion.

I understand I might be able to point my Antminers through a proxy and minimize my bandwidth. I've been fumbling around trying to figure out how to set it up, Slushpool has some info in the helpcenter about using the Proxy, but I still am having problems figuring it out. In fact I have no idea what I'm doing, I have no background in this kind of stuff.

If anyone has any info or can refer me to a how-to or anything helpful, I would be much obliged. Feel free to PM me  
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April 09, 2017, 01:53:25 PM
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Slush,

Is it possible for you to set up the pool to allow ASICBOOST? I have no idea what this would entail
A pool has nothing to do with ASICBOOST!
Don't listen to trolls (blindly) and do your homework on the matter first.
(hint) this is over an year old (patented) optimisation for mining hardware and software - not illegal to use (in production) if you pay the patent fee.

EDIT: Just to make it clear - it is illegal to use it without paying the fee (as with any other patented technology), but it is not a hack as it was published, probably because of misunderstanding.

It is my understanding that miner and pool need to support asicboost for it to work. Patents will only be valid in the countries they have been granted (generally). Reddit mentions that apparently the patent has not yet been granted (in the us)? Either way, a level playing field would be good. Some redditors say they are already using asicboost, but could be trolling... Does anyone have any first hand info?

Seems the version number needs to be changed in the bmminer.conf and the pool needs to support it (via the stratum protocol) to send the right sort of work.
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April 09, 2017, 08:48:45 PM
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I read that paper a long time ago and might be wrong, but ...
The pool may help a lot, but a miner can also do that on it's own. From what i remember (and understood) those 30% are the maximum possible in about 10% of the cases, so (IMHO) not worth all the headache.
Once again, it was a long time ago, I didn't pay much attention and might be completely wrong here, but it doesn't seem a big deal to me, as it is less than the variance caused from luck (5-10%).

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April 16, 2017, 01:41:45 PM
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guys 13 hours without block and pool luck 153% for the last 10 blocks.
is this normal?
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April 16, 2017, 01:51:41 PM
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guys 13 hours without block and pool luck 153% for the last 10 blocks.
is this normal?

They will only update pool luck when the next block is found. That luck number is what the luck was when the last block was found.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

That is the main reason I moved away from Slush. You only get paid your full share if you happen to be mining at full speed when the block is found. I moved to a PPLNS pool where ALL of your miner work is counted.

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April 16, 2017, 01:58:09 PM
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guys 13 hours without block and pool luck 153% for the last 10 blocks.
is this normal?

They will only update pool luck when the next block is found. That luck number is what the luck was when the last block was found.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

That is the main reason I moved away from Slush. You only get paid your full share if you happen to be mining at full speed when the block is found. I moved to a PPLNS pool where ALL of your miner work is counted.

may i ask in which pool you are now?
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April 16, 2017, 02:02:12 PM
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guys 13 hours without block and pool luck 153% for the last 10 blocks.
is this normal?

They will only update pool luck when the next block is found. That luck number is what the luck was when the last block was found.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

That is the main reason I moved away from Slush. You only get paid your full share if you happen to be mining at full speed when the block is found. I moved to a PPLNS pool where ALL of your miner work is counted.

may i ask in which pool you are now?

Kano Pool  https://www.kano.is/index.php

Lower pool hash rate so the blocks are less frequent. But a LOT LESS people to share the Block Reward with. So I'm coming out ahead more than I was on Slush.
Also, you get paid for all of your work even if you stop mining on the pool. You still get payments from your previous miner work.


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April 16, 2017, 02:16:08 PM
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guys 13 hours without block and pool luck 153% for the last 10 blocks.
is this normal?

They will only update pool luck when the next block is found. That luck number is what the luck was when the last block was found.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

That is the main reason I moved away from Slush. You only get paid your full share if you happen to be mining at full speed when the block is found. I moved to a PPLNS pool where ALL of your miner work is counted.

may i ask in which pool you are now?

Kano Pool  https://www.kano.is/index.php

Lower pool hash rate so the blocks are less frequent. But a LOT LESS people to share the Block Reward with. So I'm coming out ahead more than I was on Slush.
Also, you get paid for all of your work even if you stop mining on the pool. You still get payments from your previous miner work.



im trying to get in s9 ip address but i cant."ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT". so i cant change pool. is there any chance someboby hack the system?
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April 16, 2017, 02:25:47 PM
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im trying to get in s9 ip address but i cant."ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT". so i cant change pool. is there any chance someboby hack the system?

I'm not exactly sure what you are saying. Are you saying that when you put the miner IP address in the browser address bar it comes back and gives you that error?

If so, I would make sure the miner address is correct. If you are positive the IP address is correct, try using a different browser.
You could also do a hard reset on the miner. That will put you back to the antpool pool address, then you should be able to get into the miner GUI through the web browser and change pools.
Good luck! Smiley

If you have anymore questions, don't hesitate to ask.

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I doubt your system has been hacked.

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April 16, 2017, 02:37:12 PM
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im trying to get in s9 ip address but i cant."ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT". so i cant change pool. is there any chance someboby hack the system?

I'm not exactly sure what you are saying. Are you saying that when you put the miner IP address in the browser address bar it comes back and gives you that error?

If so, I would make sure the miner address is correct. If you are positive the IP address is correct, try using a different browser.
You could also do a hard reset on the miner. That will put you back to the antpool pool address, then you should be able to get into the miner GUI through the web browser and change pools.
Good luck! Smiley

If you have anymore questions, don't hesitate to ask.

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I doubt your system has been hacked.

yes exactly. error also and other browsers. ip is correct. its bookmark on top. i also try to reset the s9 but nothing happens. doesnt make the reset. in the pool show that my miner work fine. any ideas?
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April 16, 2017, 02:45:16 PM
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im trying to get in s9 ip address but i cant."ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT". so i cant change pool. is there any chance someboby hack the system?

I'm not exactly sure what you are saying. Are you saying that when you put the miner IP address in the browser address bar it comes back and gives you that error?

If so, I would make sure the miner address is correct. If you are positive the IP address is correct, try using a different browser.
You could also do a hard reset on the miner. That will put you back to the antpool pool address, then you should be able to get into the miner GUI through the web browser and change pools.
Good luck! Smiley

If you have anymore questions, don't hesitate to ask.

P.S.
I doubt your system has been hacked.

yes exactly. error also and other browsers. ip is correct. its bookmark on top. i also try to reset the s9 but nothing happens. doesnt make the reset. in the pool show that my miner work fine. any ideas?

You - we, should probably take this problem to the Mining Support forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=40.0
Myself or others should be able to help you. Just start a New Topic and explain your problem. I'm sure you will get a simple and easy to fix solution.
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May 03, 2017, 11:51:56 PM
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who trying Zcash on the pool ? .yea you can mine in the pool using GPU, if you mine Zcash been doing it for one or two days now ..

.finally got two rigs working with the ethos mining OS on the pool . posted about it on Facebook .

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May 05, 2017, 09:21:57 PM
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What are the odds that this pool would switch to a PPLNS reward structure. IMHO that method is a bit more fair to the average miner.

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