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Author Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool  (Read 4340046 times)
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June 19, 2017, 04:56:13 PM
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Hey.  

Not sure if this is the right place.  Just not sure where else to post this.

Regarding Zcash mining on Slush pool.  

Why is it that on average we don't find a Zcash block for about 1-24hrs?  We have a fairly high hashrate.  
Other pools with lower hashrate can find them every few hours.    

For slush it varies between 1hr and 24 hrs.  


I live by slush's pool.   Just wondering why it can take us longer than some pools to mine zcash blocks.



Can anyone explain?



At this rate and cost for BTC miners I've almost come to a conclusion that I should just do BTC mining on the side and zcash mining (GPU mining) as my main as spending $1000-$5000 can give a quicker ROI and sweeter profit with GPU mining than spending $1000-$5000 on btc miners.   Infact spending $1000-$5000 I feel your lucky if you can make your money back in a year, let alone make any profit, unless your not paying for hydro.


  

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June 20, 2017, 01:29:45 PM
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When it will be possible to vote for SegWit2x ?

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June 20, 2017, 04:37:27 PM
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When it will be possible to vote for SegWit2x ?

^^ Lol, hopefully never

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June 20, 2017, 08:09:57 PM
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When it will be possible to vote for SegWit2x ?

^^ Lol, hopefully never

I was planning not to reply, but couldn't resist ...

IMHO: It is better to move (even if not in the best possible direction) than marking time for years and going nowhere.
To became widely used (and rise in price) BTC needs stability not volatility and the never ending scalability debate is working against that for too long.
Yes, we will need to fix this 'fix' latter, but better latter than never.

I suggested some time ago (before BTU) to have dynamic block-size at 75% on daily basis (with each difficulty change), which was latter confirmed as the optimal fee point from someone's research (apologies for not remembering names and dates, but will try to find the facts if requested with reason).

On the other hand I agree that it is impossible to handle ALL and EVERY transaction(s) 'on-chain', so there should be some other mechanism to offload it/them ... I liked the idea (few years ago) of merged mining for such a second layer network (say LTC being the silver of BTC's gold and merged mined ... some how), but LN has some other advantages, so SegWit (and LN) is not bad either and easier to implement.

In the end we (may) have the best from both worlds ... well ... also the problems from both worlds, but after all it will be more positive than negative, so i would like to vote for it!

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June 22, 2017, 08:36:42 AM
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I was wondering why almost every block being found has the tag NYA...New York Agreement?...Slushpool blocks being found dont have that tag...is that why we only getting 1 block every 6 hours now?..Or is it just the luck has been bad.
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June 22, 2017, 09:08:00 AM
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Slush should IMO allow their miners to VOTE on what block flag each block should have instead of choosing to only flag Core dev SegWit for all their miners.
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July 05, 2017, 04:39:34 PM
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I was posting in another thread.  Senior member suggested that I post something here. 

I have been mining bitcoin with slushpool for years.  Recently I started to mine zec. 

On the 4th of July, my slushpool account was hijacked.  I used the ticket system, described in post #1 in this thread.  Slushpool customer service sent only one message back.  Told me that my coins are stolen, and I should start a new account.  Very brief.  After that, they ignore all my messages.  They will not give my account back, and will not share info on the hack.  After one message, there is no response from customer service.  No interest from the slushpool IRC group. 

Feels to me that slushpool has become too big to care much about small miners.  If user's account is hijacked, the thief gets all user's coins and gets to keep the account as well.  Slushpool is too big now, to work with users.  Also, if original user cannot login to his/her account, and thief never comes back, then slushpool will take any leftover coins after one year.  (This is in the ToS, described as a stale account.)  So, Slushpool has no motivation to restore a hijacked account. 

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It was only about 1.75 to 1.8 bitcoin.  Well below the interest threshold of a slushpool manager.  Few thousand dollars, USD.  But the big deal for me is that they won't give my account back, and they won't share info on the hack.  I use a unique password for slushpool.  Eleven characters.  Unlikely that it was found elsewhere on the internet.  I've scanned my desktop hard drive, and no malware was found.  (No obvious keystroke logger.  Although some malware can elude existing scanners.)  I am asking slushpool for time and date stamps of password changes, login from Budapest, and email (recovery address) changes.  I'm pretty certain that these events are all logged.  There is no reason for them to withhold this info.  There is no reason to keep me locked out of my account.  There is no reason to completely ignore me after sending a short email message that says approximately, "You were hacked.  Too bad.  Create a new account." 
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July 06, 2017, 10:11:18 AM
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I finally heard back from slushpool.  New service agent.  It seems that the customer service goal is to respond to all issues/questions within 24-hours.  This is good for the first report of a hack.  But is cumbersome when trying to hold a conversation or ask questions.  Every time I ask a question or send a file, I must wait roughly 20 hours for a reply. 

The new agent gave me additional info.  Some of it...particularly email addresses...is very important.  I have asked for more info, including specific details on time and date stamps.

Waiting now for the reply.   

If the agent is correct (and I assume this is the case) then the email address on the hijacked account is actually one of my other email addys.  It is one of my older addresses.  Difficult to explain how it is now on the hacked account. 

Slushpool will still not reset my password, and allow me to login.  I have asked about this many times.  They won't do it, but they never say yes or no, either. 
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July 06, 2017, 03:47:31 PM
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When it will be possible to vote for SegWit2x ?

^^ Lol, hopefully never

I was planning not to reply, but couldn't resist ...

IMHO: It is better to move (even if not in the best possible direction) than marking time for years and going nowhere.
To became widely used (and rise in price) BTC needs stability not volatility and the never ending scalability debate is working against that for too long.
Yes, we will need to fix this 'fix' latter, but better latter than never.

I suggested some time ago (before BTU) to have dynamic block-size at 75% on daily basis (with each difficulty change), which was latter confirmed as the optimal fee point from someone's research (apologies for not remembering names and dates, but will try to find the facts if requested with reason).

On the other hand I agree that it is impossible to handle ALL and EVERY transaction(s) 'on-chain', so there should be some other mechanism to offload it/them ... I liked the idea (few years ago) of merged mining for such a second layer network (say LTC being the silver of BTC's gold and merged mined ... some how), but LN has some other advantages, so SegWit (and LN) is not bad either and easier to implement.

In the end we (may) have the best from both worlds ... well ... also the problems from both worlds, but after all it will be more positive than negative, so i would like to vote for it!

I'm not exactly against Segwit2x as an upgrade path (although I think the HF part is not gonna fly, it will be way too contentious to succeed), I'm more against how it came to be - with back-room deals made by businesses and w/o Core Devs. The big problem with businesses trying to influence protocol changes is that they don't really care about the protocol itself, they just care about their own businesses interests. Take Shapeshift.io for example. Segwit and the LN atomic swapping concept has the potential to kill their business model. So clearly, they are going to support anything other than BIP 141 / 148, direct paths to SegWit.

Also, the fact is that Bitmain has too much influence due to their mining monopoly. They control well over 51% of the hash, if you consider the pools they influence and the farms they influence with their hosting contracts. They are directly influencing many of the businesses in the Segwit2x NYA. The sooner we kill covert Asicboost (Segwit will do that), the sooner the ecosystem will return to natural competition. I like BIP 148 personally, because it forces Bitmain / big blockers / anti-segwit supports hand. They can no longer keep stalling. If they want their protocol upgrade path, they are free to fork off and do it.

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July 11, 2017, 10:08:37 PM
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What am I missing?  I just setup my first mining rig with a rate of 7 TH/S on SlushPool.  Their dashboard shows my "Estimated Daily Reward" at 0.00062122 BTC ... which is only $1.46/day with today's rate.  Crypto Compare's calculator shows that I should be grossing about $5.86/day at my current hash rate.

Please be gentile.  I'm a complete noob.  What am I missing?

Here's a link to the calculator:
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/btc?HashingPower=7&HashingUnit=TH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=1293&CostPerkWh=0
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July 11, 2017, 11:32:42 PM
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What am I missing?  I just setup my first mining rig with a rate of 7 TH/S on SlushPool.  Their dashboard shows my "Estimated Daily Reward" at 0.00062122 BTC ... which is only $1.46/day with today's rate.  Crypto Compare's calculator shows that I should be grossing about $5.86/day at my current hash rate.

Please be gentile.  I'm a complete noob.  What am I missing?

Here's a link to the calculator:
https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/btc?HashingPower=7&HashingUnit=TH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=1293&CostPerkWh=0

Didn't you like my answer last time?

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The thing you are missing is patience.

Its all about the luck of the pool, most good pools should "average" close to the calculators level of found blocks over a given period of time, but that luck can vary from day to day, week to week and month to month.

Wait for a month, then see what you have averaged over that time.


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July 11, 2017, 11:46:47 PM
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Patience, mining padawan, is a virtue that must be cultivated!  Wink

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July 13, 2017, 09:24:45 AM
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any reason i cannot get my gridseed through BFGminer to have shares accepted? tried upping the difficulty on my workers but every time i just get "rejected, difficulty too low"
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July 13, 2017, 09:49:21 AM
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any reason i cannot get my gridseed through BFGminer to have shares accepted? tried upping the difficulty on my workers but every time i just get "rejected, difficulty too low"

Is this even a stratum capable miner? What is its hashrate?

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July 13, 2017, 09:54:00 AM
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I assumed it was when i bought it. I think have may have found the problem. Its trying to mine Scrypt and if i have it connected to the bitcoin mine it not going to have anything accepted is it?

i will point it at the Zcash and give it a go.
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July 13, 2017, 09:58:33 AM
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I assumed it was when i bought it. I think have may have found the problem. Its trying to mine Scrypt and if i have it connected to the bitcoin mine it not going to have anything accepted is it?

i will point it at the Zcash and give it a go.

Yeah, Scrypt is not supported by SlushPool at the moment. If it's the gridseed miner I'm thinking of than you can't mine zcash with it either. But it would help if you knew your miner well enough before you used it. It would save you some grief.


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July 13, 2017, 10:00:48 AM
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I assumed it was when i bought it. I think have may have found the problem. Its trying to mine Scrypt and if i have it connected to the bitcoin mine it not going to have anything accepted is it?

i will point it at the Zcash and give it a go.

Yeah, Scrypt is not supported by SlushPool at the moment. If it's the gridseed miner I'm thinking of than you can't mine zcash with it either. But it would help if you knew your miner well enough before you used it. It would save you some grief.



Yeah im learning from my mistakes slowly dont worry! haha

it is this miner. i thought this would make it possible to mine scrypt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awhpugXsiX8
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July 13, 2017, 10:03:50 AM
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Oh, so when I got work from coordinator which leads to winning hash, I cannot send it to bitcoin network as "my own" hash?

In a pooled mining situation, the winning hash cannot be used as "your own".

The hash incorporates all of the transactions in the block, including the one that pays 50 BTC to the generator.

If you are hashing for pooled generation, the winning hash is only useful to the pool.

If you are hashing for yourself, then obviously the winning hash is useful to you. But in that case the "low-difficulty" hashes that you generate are useless to the pool, so the pool will not pay you a share of the generated 50 BTC.

It is a solved problem to prevent cheating with pooled generation.


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July 13, 2017, 10:19:47 AM
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I assumed it was when i bought it. I think have may have found the problem. Its trying to mine Scrypt and if i have it connected to the bitcoin mine it not going to have anything accepted is it?

i will point it at the Zcash and give it a go.

Yeah, Scrypt is not supported by SlushPool at the moment. If it's the gridseed miner I'm thinking of than you can't mine zcash with it either. But it would help if you knew your miner well enough before you used it. It would save you some grief.



Yeah im learning from my mistakes slowly dont worry! haha

it is this miner. i thought this would make it possible to mine scrypt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awhpugXsiX8


It can, but you're not pointing it to a scrypt pool. Try something like litecoinpool.org or something. That gridseed miner also does BTC mining as well, so you have to mine in "dual" mode. It's a rather weak miner by today's standards so I would suggest not bothering with the SHA-256 (aka bitcoin) part of it and just mine scrypt coins - like litecoin.

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I assumed it was when i bought it. I think have may have found the problem. Its trying to mine Scrypt and if i have it connected to the bitcoin mine it not going to have anything accepted is it?

i will point it at the Zcash and give it a go.

Yeah, Scrypt is not supported by SlushPool at the moment. If it's the gridseed miner I'm thinking of than you can't mine zcash with it either. But it would help if you knew your miner well enough before you used it. It would save you some grief.



Yeah im learning from my mistakes slowly dont worry! haha

it is this miner. i thought this would make it possible to mine scrypt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awhpugXsiX8


It can, but you're not pointing it to a scrypt pool. Try something like litecoinpool.org or something. That gridseed miner also does BTC mining as well, so you have to mine in "dual" mode. It's a rather weak miner by today's standards so I would suggest not bothering with the SHA-256 (aka bitcoin) part of it and just mine scrypt coins - like litecoin.


Thank you so much for your help. I will point these gridseeds at nicehash for now as i couldnt get it to connect to the litecoin pool yesterday and keep my ASIC/USB miners pointing at slushpool.

I will get that estimated payout time below 3 years soon! haha
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