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July 30, 2017, 04:31:00 PM
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Forgive the ignorance, why not?  Is it because the value of the BTC staying in BTC means you get the total value, instead of the split value once it all shakes out?
I just don't care for the few (milli)coins i'll get and prefer to collect some larger amount before transferring it to my wallet that's all.
If you have a lot of small transactions in your wallet you spend more in fees latter, because your output transaction gets bigger

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July 31, 2017, 04:51:01 AM
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Forgive the ignorance, why not?  Is it because the value of the BTC staying in BTC means you get the total value, instead of the split value once it all shakes out?
I just don't care for the few (milli)coins i'll get and prefer to collect some larger amount before transferring it to my wallet that's all.
If you have a lot of small transactions in your wallet you spend more in fees latter, because your output transaction gets bigger

The problem with that logic is that Slushpool is a percentage fee, so regardless of how much you take out, it is a sliding scale.  The only exception are small transactions under 0.01 btc, which get hit with a fixed fee.
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July 31, 2017, 09:47:14 AM
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I mean the fee YOU will need to pay when you decide to spend them.

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August 10, 2017, 05:04:45 PM
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I have a quick question. I have tried Slush pool before and I realized that the overall payout was not consistent with the block reward. But at the time, I used this, the block reward was pretty low and blocks found were few and far between.

My question is this: right now all the chinese pools are pretty much straightup stealing block rewards from miners in the pool (calculated block rewards are around 110-115%). Does Slushpool split the block reward evenly and then apply the pool fee?

If that is the case do we get 110-115% and then pay 1.5% for pool fee?

Because if so I'm gonna switch over to slush even though I am an asian miner. I just don't like being lied to and cheated by Bitmain right now. And I think many of us feel the same way. They promised 115, and they straight up pulled the rug from under us.
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August 10, 2017, 11:15:13 PM
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I have a quick question. I have tried Slush pool before and I realized that the overall payout was not consistent with the block reward. But at the time, I used this, the block reward was pretty low and blocks found were few and far between.

My question is this: right now all the chinese pools are pretty much straightup stealing block rewards from miners in the pool (calculated block rewards are around 110-115%). Does Slushpool split the block reward evenly and then apply the pool fee?

If that is the case do we get 110-115% and then pay 1.5% for pool fee?

Because if so I'm gonna switch over to slush even though I am an asian miner. I just don't like being lied to and cheated by Bitmain right now. And I think many of us feel the same way. They promised 115, and they straight up pulled the rug from under us.

I do believe that pool fees are charged AFTER the block reward (+ txt fees + merged mining fees from converting NMC to BTC) and not before.

Pool operators rarely reply to this thread I'm afraid so I don't think you'll get an official answer but I do believe your answer can be found here:

https://slushpool.com/help/manual/rewards

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August 11, 2017, 02:20:53 AM
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Hmm according to the site it should be ~14 X 0.98(our hashrate/pool hash rate)
So the fees for slush are ~108-113% after giving fees to pool. That is still way better than the other pools.

I guess its now about irregular maximum payout vs regular but raped payouts thanks!
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August 11, 2017, 05:11:37 AM
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Hmm according to the site it should be ~14 X 0.98(our hashrate/pool hash rate)
So the fees for slush are ~108-113% after giving fees to pool. That is still way better than the other pools.

I guess its now about irregular maximum payout vs regular but raped payouts thanks!


Indeed. My advice is if you don't mind the more irregular payouts you're better off sticking with Slush. The pool has recently seen a modest increase in its overall hashrate too, so that will help theoretically with the block solve times (luck playing a big factor too).


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August 11, 2017, 05:27:04 AM
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yea, I am probably gonna switch back now. My hashrate is only 100T though so I'm probably not going to help anyone much. But still, I really hate getting raped by Chinese pools........115% they said......until September they said.......
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August 11, 2017, 05:56:01 AM
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yea, I am probably gonna switch back now. My hashrate is only 100T though so I'm probably not going to help anyone much. But still, I really hate getting raped by Chinese pools........115% they said......until September they said.......

Doesn't matter how much hash you have, one should still not feed the Chinese mining pool monsters. Maybe if enough people got clued in they wouldn't rape miners. The sad reality is that most of the miners on their pools are clueless.

Welcome to our pool btw Smiley Happy mining!

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August 11, 2017, 05:50:35 PM
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thanks!  so far so good! daily payout is not as great as BTC.com or antpool, but I'm willing to stick around for 1 difficulty period just to see whats up!

Sadly most of my asian brethrens don't speak a dime of english or understand very little. So they stick with the chinese pools. Slushpool is better and more fair, but if you can't get past the language barrier, it aint gonna cut it. And even if they did, Bitmain will probably remotely shutdown our miners anyway.
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August 11, 2017, 09:18:30 PM
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thanks!  so far so good! daily payout is not as great as BTC.com or antpool, but I'm willing to stick around for 1 difficulty period just to see whats up!

Sadly most of my asian brethrens don't speak a dime of english or understand very little. So they stick with the chinese pools. Slushpool is better and more fair, but if you can't get past the language barrier, it aint gonna cut it. And even if they did, Bitmain will probably remotely shutdown our miners anyway.

Actually Slush does support Chinese language, you just have to click on the Chinese flag at the top to switch to that language ( and others).

Hahahaha, yeah that would be pretty funny if Bitmain started doing that but last I heard that "feature" was never used and they patched it/removed it in later firmware revisions.

In regards to the daily payouts, it will fluctuate a lot more than with those bigger pools but you'll see the average should be roughly the same. I tried Antpool for a bit and the payouts were the same, they just came more often cause that pool solves blocks more often. When Slush hits a round of high luck like it did a 3 or 4 blocks ago you'll be very happy! Those few rounds ago gave the pool a luck percentage of ~140% The pool will estimate your daily reward and it should be roughly the same as with your other pools over a long enough time frame.


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August 12, 2017, 05:27:50 PM
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thanks!  so far so good! daily payout is not as great as BTC.com or antpool, but I'm willing to stick around for 1 difficulty period just to see whats up!

Sadly most of my asian brethrens don't speak a dime of english or understand very little. So they stick with the chinese pools. Slushpool is better and more fair, but if you can't get past the language barrier, it aint gonna cut it. And even if they did, Bitmain will probably remotely shutdown our miners anyway.

Actually Slush does support Chinese language, you just have to click on the Chinese flag at the top to switch to that language ( and others).

Hahahaha, yeah that would be pretty funny if Bitmain started doing that but last I heard that "feature" was never used and they patched it/removed it in later firmware revisions.

In regards to the daily payouts, it will fluctuate a lot more than with those bigger pools but you'll see the average should be roughly the same. I tried Antpool for a bit and the payouts were the same, they just came more often cause that pool solves blocks more often. When Slush hits a round of high luck like it did a 3 or 4 blocks ago you'll be very happy! Those few rounds ago gave the pool a luck percentage of ~140% The pool will estimate your daily reward and it should be roughly the same as with your other pools over a long enough time frame.



yep, thanks for the heads up!
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August 15, 2017, 08:23:50 AM
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Is anyone successfully mining BTC on Slush , using rental hashpower from Nicehash ? I've tried to run a small rental contract from nicehash, setup  the worker on the pool , but I keep getting disconnected from the pool. On the nicehash dashboard I get a "pool difficulty too low" error. I've increased the minimum difficulty to 16383 , but it looks like this value is not saved in the configuration of the worker nor the account default.
Any feedback is very much appreciated.
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August 16, 2017, 04:03:47 AM
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Is anyone successfully mining BTC on Slush , using rental hashpower from Nicehash ? I've tried to run a small rental contract from nicehash, setup  the worker on the pool , but I keep getting disconnected from the pool. On the nicehash dashboard I get a "pool difficulty too low" error. I've increased the minimum difficulty to 16383 , but it looks like this value is not saved in the configuration of the worker nor the account default.
Any feedback is very much appreciated.
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The pool side difficulty is the _minimum_ difficulty the pool will use, but the pool's difficulty algorithm automatically sets the appropriate difficulty for your woker(s). If as you say the values you set are not saved that is definitely a weird issue. As strange as it may sound try it on a different browser or machine and see if it works there.


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August 16, 2017, 05:29:05 AM
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The pool side difficulty is the _minimum_ difficulty the pool will use, but the pool's difficulty algorithm automatically sets the appropriate difficulty for your woker(s). If as you say the values you set are not saved that is definitely a weird issue. As strange as it may sound try it on a different browser or machine and see if it works there.



Not a problem of browser. The worker mining diff is apparently set correctly , but when I run the Nicehash verificator it shows a different value.


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The pool side difficulty is the _minimum_ difficulty the pool will use, but the pool's difficulty algorithm automatically sets the appropriate difficulty for your woker(s). If as you say the values you set are not saved that is definitely a weird issue. As strange as it may sound try it on a different browser or machine and see if it works there.



Not a problem of browser. The worker mining diff is apparently set correctly , but when I run the Nicehash verificator it shows a different value.





Looks like a nicehash bug to me.

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August 20, 2017, 02:28:19 AM
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Daaamn, banging day on Slushpool

I switched off for a while, trying other pools out and stuff when reward rate got really low for a while the last month or so

Glad I switched back when I did!  I think the last two days I've averaged about 150-160% PPS

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August 20, 2017, 04:29:49 AM
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New to Slushpool - joined at a good time, the last few days have been very lucky!!  I have 4 workers-- Avalon 741's -- I wish they bonus'd the worker that finds the coin - that would be cool.  Like give them 1 BTC or something.  I know it would decrease the pool - but it would add some excitement!
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August 20, 2017, 04:39:06 AM
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New to Slushpool - joined at a good time, the last few days have been very lucky!!  I have 4 workers-- Avalon 741's -- I wish they bonus'd the worker that finds the coin - that would be cool.  Like give them 1 BTC or something.  I know it would decrease the pool - but it would add some excitement!

I think that would bias it strongly towards the biggest miners.

What if that bias was balanced out by another 1 BTC that was gifted to the smallest miners in the pool?  Starting to get a little ridiculous but I think something like that could be a kinda cool way to grow the community.

BTW, what's the Canaan purchase process like?  Smooth?  I tried to get a S9 from Bitmain and it's just been an unmitigated disaster of incompetence, I'll never shop with them again under any circumstance.  I hear Canaan is a lot better though.

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August 20, 2017, 01:48:58 PM
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Canaan was very good for my first order, really good comms. -- fast ship, came to the US in about a week on fedex, they issued tracking right away.  They raised their prices a little, but now include freight.  Although I think before their freight calcs were messed up because they shipped me 4 741's for $118.  For $30 each it seemed really low for fedex to send something around the world, but maybe it's just me. 

For small orders, you have to pay by BTC.  They give you an address, and you pay with pretty much no recourse - so there's risk there.  My second order of 4 is not quite as smooth, but they say the got slammed.  They don't take your money though until your order is physically filled and ready-  I ordered 4 more about a week ago and they haven't shipped yet.  They are saying the end of August now.  So when they are "ready" they will send me a BTC address and I pay and then they will ship right away.

Their service / support was good also until slammed-- like all of this stuff lately, growing pains.

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