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[MinermanNC]

Just sent out an email. We have secured two additional early-may orders of Avalon ASIC chips. We now have 40,000 chips (all ordered before May 16) which are enough to process all the orders that we received during our pre-order opening. If we get the Avalon chips by the end of this month, we will ship out all the orders by Mid August.

On a separate note, the test board is hashing now. I will post pics/videos tomorrow. Have a great weekend!

Hey Terrahash!  there may be a little confusion on the finished board you will be shipping, regarding Heat Sinks,,,will they in fact be shipping with the heat sinks mounted on the boards and ready to go?...

[MinermanNC]

Why did you guys even bother pre-ordering if you cant handle waiting? its been a week..there is no chips and nothing is ready let them work and when end of July comes then get antsy(if they even receive chips by then).

These are all the pussies who are wussing out now because of the falling USD/BTC value. Just keep watching, they all will want back in once it goes up. Fucking whiners.

Oh whining like this?

He just said that chip orders are placed every week.
 

Just because he said it, doesn't mean its true. Unless he shows some evidence, I don't believe him. Avalon is the last company I would ever invest in.

OK, then you took your decision, time to move on.

Stop worshipping him like a God. His company should be scrutinized for illegal practices.

So, Yifu says he prices Batch2/Batch3 and chips not according to their manufacturing cost, but based on profitability calculated by estimated difficulty. And that's why he is offering a refund to Batch3 because the shipment has been delayed and the difficulty has risen significantly.

So if the prices are based on difficulty, why doesn't the chips price go down every day/week? He should keep reducing the prices for new chip orders based on the increasing difficulty!

You can say that legitimate businesses would have a refund policy, but not having a refund policy is not illegal (as long as the promised goods are delivered), and it is clear that the money is needed to actually manufacture the goods, so a refund policy would not be practical regardless of how legitimate the business is.

I know its not illegal to not refund the money. Thats why I said "any legitimate business" and not "any business". Since his product is in high demand, he can always sell it again. His decision not to refund pre-orders makes me smell scam. That's all I am saying

Excellent Atomic!

[aznewsh]

This whole deal is completely over, they sounded like the real deal for a short time - they are not, it is clear!
The couple of fanboys on here who keep posting positive stuff about them or slagging off detractors have low post counts and are likely aligned with TH either Amir himself or friends or just people too greedy to not see the truth.

It's time to get out while you can guys before the 45 day PayPal limit

[laughingbear]

This whole deal is completely over, they sounded like the real deal for a short time - they are not, it is clear!
The couple of fanboys on here who keep posting positive stuff about them or slagging off detractors have low post counts and are likely aligned with TH either Amir himself or friends or just people too greedy to not see the truth.

It's time to get out while you can guys before the 45 day PayPal limit

what?  do you even read?

[MinermanNC]

This whole deal is completely over, they sounded like the real deal for a short time - they are not, it is clear!
The couple of fanboys on here who keep posting positive stuff about them or slagging off detractors have low post counts and are likely aligned with TH either Amir himself or friends or just people too greedy to not see the truth.

It's time to get out while you can guys before the 45 day PayPal limit

Tomorrow could be a make or break day for them/us, once again they have posted a statement intending to provide more information on a specific date. If they fail to follow up as stated again, the we are back at square 1, with any confidence in them. So lets see what tomorrow brings, and then we can all decide for ourselves. We all are aware that the clock is ticking where Paypal is concerned. Cya all tomorrow!

[darkfriend77]

this whole thing is getting ... more exciting from day to day .... lol. *laying back. *getting some popcorn.

any prooves for the newly aquired avalon chip orders?

[darkfriend77]

This whole deal is completely over, they sounded like the real deal for a short time - they are not, it is clear!
The couple of fanboys on here who keep posting positive stuff about them or slagging off detractors have low post counts and are likely aligned with TH either Amir himself or friends or just people too greedy to not see the truth.

It's time to get out while you can guys before the 45 day PayPal limit

+1

... ... hmm .. a statistic including all those supporting TH users with posts an join date would give light into the dark ..... fight

[TheSwede75]

This whole deal is completely over, they sounded like the real deal for a short time - they are not, it is clear!
The couple of fanboys on here who keep posting positive stuff about them or slagging off detractors have low post counts and are likely aligned with TH either Amir himself or friends or just people too greedy to not see the truth.

It's time to get out while you can guys before the 45 day PayPal limit

Ha ha, idiot. Sad you didn't order? Read their latest update. ALL orders shipped by AuG 15th. Or as we say, suck it Trebek!

[USMCGrunt0307]

Here's to hoping they are able to come through with this mini-deadline of video/pics tomorrow...

I would like to think that the recent burst of communication from TH is because they are seeing an increase in refund requests and they are trying to do a bit of disaster control.  First rule of any business should be not to ignore your customers.  Doesn't matter how awesome your product/production line is, if you don't communicate with your customers, your gonna crash and burn.

Oh, and my low post count is because I prefer to lurk in the shadows, listen, and learn...not spout off about BS...especially when i'm not anywhere near the most educated/experienced in something.


Oh...and if you see this Terrahash, I would suggest getting those pics/videos out as early as possible to keep the short fuses from blowing.

[linuxmonkey]

Hahaha I agree with USMCGRUNT, har har

[TheSwede75]

started both of my refunds with a ticket on the website, will be contacting paypal soon if I don't hear from them.  hoping that I also get my BTC back, keeping my fingers crossed.

Good luck, but what kind of idiot would order a pre-order ASIC with stated delivery in August and ask for a refund in July?

Actually, scratch that "good luck", you are obviously just some greedy punk that any company would be happy not to deal with. Refunding because bitcoin falls... Pathetic.

[atomicchaos]

started both of my refunds with a ticket on the website, will be contacting paypal soon if I don't hear from them.  hoping that I also get my BTC back, keeping my fingers crossed.

Good luck, but what kind of idiot would order a pre-order ASIC with stated delivery in August and ask for a refund in July?

Actually, scratch that "good luck", you are obviously just some greedy punk that any company would be happy not to deal with. Refunding because bitcoin falls... Pathetic.

Didn't you sell your pre-registered account to someone so they could buy?

[angelus359]

I asked for a refund and I was told no.

[klee]

This whole deal is completely over, they sounded like the real deal for a short time - they are not, it is clear!
The couple of fanboys on here who keep posting positive stuff about them or slagging off detractors have low post counts and are likely aligned with TH either Amir himself or friends or just people too greedy to not see the truth.

It's time to get out while you can guys before the 45 day PayPal limit

STFU troll

[ethought]

What happened with the Paypal problems? Have I missed some news?

Did payments get cancelled? Do we need to pay by credit card for our orders instead?

[Tad3j]

I see theres a lot of different characteristic values fighting each other on this forum. I would suggest to anyone who cannot stay quiet before he writes his pessimistic words to logout of this forum for a while. You'll get attention about something else, and after a while you're gonna see the things totally deifderent.

However TH has still nit manage to deal with paypal and they will tell us if they have done it. Before that any refund through paypal only harden things up in TH - paypal progress.

The second thing is that TH will provide refund, if you're gonna request for them before your item will be shipped, so theres absollutelly no reason to dispute right now!!

Third thing is, TH stil did not get any preordered Avalon chips, so we are still in time  for when they get the chips.

If you're thinking they are not somehow doing enogh for us, that is obvious your own thing, so please after you deal with your impatience, do look again, and write some supporting words.

Many of you are getting people frightening for no reason at all.

[massnerder]

Why did you guys even bother pre-ordering if you cant handle waiting? its been a week..there is no chips and nothing is ready let them work and when end of July comes then get antsy(if they even receive chips by then).

started both of my refunds with a ticket on the website, will be contacting paypal soon if I don't hear from them.  hoping that I also get my BTC back, keeping my fingers crossed.

Good luck, but what kind of idiot would order a pre-order ASIC with stated delivery in August and ask for a refund in July?

Actually, scratch that "good luck", you are obviously just some greedy punk that any company would be happy not to deal with. Refunding because bitcoin falls... Pathetic.

I ordered because TH looked like a good company.  The recent lack of communication and follow through had a lot of people wondering, and I do hope that they follow through on a promise for once and post the video on time like they said they would.  They have broken a few other promises made in this thread so I would be pleasantly surprised if they didn't tomorrow.  But like someone else said, it appears to me that they are in damage control mode now.  If there are no chips and nothing is ready, then why the holdup on responding to tickets / emails / refund requests?  Why does BKK say he hasn't heard anything from them when they say they are working closely on the boards, and why no response regarding that discrepancy?  Why would they let a paypal claim sit for 10 days instead of taking a few seconds from the busy day required to issue that refund or respond to it?  Something doesn't smell right to me.  Hopefully I am wrong, but I would rather wait to find out I'm wrong and lose out on time mining, than wait to find out I'm right and lose out on both time and money.

Oh Swede...  why don't you just stay in the trollbox where you belong?  I'm the kind of pathetic idiot that wouldn't order from BFL because of their shitty customer service, but you say I should keep my order with TH despite their shitty customer service?  Really?  If it were about greed, wouldn't I keep my order in hopes of getting an ASIC (which would generate more BTC in the long run anyway) before many others can?  Or just sell my order for a profit?  

[TechCF]

Just can't beleive how expensive that case is, when I see people can get storage pod cases made for $200 - $400.

[darkfriend77]

TH don't forget to present your team in the video ... i need to visualize things ...... *spectacle incoming

[nowywbitcoinowymswiecie]

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Anyway - keep the good work! Hopefully it brings good fruits.

6th post is here (first allowed after 5 in newbie).  And registered yesterday.  Do i possibly smell something weird from TH or TH supporter ...... yes i do.

Wonder why You (and nobody else actually) didnt pick the very important point here and just start childish comments. Yes, it my th post and I am newbee on this forum. I hope You are happy now that Youve pinned me down.
Ive just lately registered but I am reading BCT for much longer.

Anyway - didnt You trouble that this picture shows quite slack approach to electronics - I would never reverse power cables colours. I know to most of You it looks stupid issue but in reality You should stick to the rules as it helps You avoid some troubles later on.

If theres many ppl careing about lack of forum updates we should also try to pick such small details the same way.

Thats just my 0.00002BTC