Any word on amd vega hash rates?

[chkwoot]

Have a question — I bought two Vega 56 that already have flashed bio from eBay. So how do you stock them back to original bios? TIA

[clems]

Hello,

Someone know the difference between those Vega 56 ?

https://www.amazon.fr/Sapphire-11276-00-40G-graphique-Radeon-Express/dp/B077S1QS5R/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1513605433&sr=1-6&keywords=vega+56
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B07571TTNW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks

[MikeHenderson]

I have 3 FE and a 64.

So far I can get the 64 and 1 FE to hash at 2k, the other 2 get the ! triangle when I mess with HBMM in firepro or disable/enable in device manager. 

Anyone have a clue?  Taken me forever, just to get to this point.

[dragonmike]

I've been mining on my vega 56 for 2 months now and most of it i've been using Whatman to setup.

Lately i've been trying OverdriveNTool and the profiles on vega.mininguide but it hasnt been as stable as it is with whatman.
My Saphhire has issues with 950mhz on memory, i've tried tweaking the profiles but i've never got anything relieable, ends up crashing or blue screen eventually.

On whatman i use -30% Core, 935/940 Mhz memory and -20% Power and this is the most stable setup.

Anyone else having these issues with OverdriveNTool ? which config should i do to replicate these settings?

Everything sucks to some extent when you don't have full control over frequencies and voltages. Neither Wattman nor OverdriveNtool give you full manual access unfortunately. Wattman just dumbs it down even further. I tried the same settings as you above, they work more or less but do indeed take your hashrate down quite a bit.

[Smashingmanson]

I've been mining on my vega 56 for 2 months now and most of it i've been using Whatman to setup.

Lately i've been trying OverdriveNTool and the profiles on vega.mininguide but it hasnt been as stable as it is with whatman.
My Saphhire has issues with 950mhz on memory, i've tried tweaking the profiles but i've never got anything relieable, ends up crashing or blue screen eventually.

On whatman i use -30% Core, 935/940 Mhz memory and -20% Power and this is the most stable setup.

Anyone else having these issues with OverdriveNTool ? which config should i do to replicate these settings?

Everything sucks to some extent when you don't have full control over frequencies and voltages. Neither Wattman nor OverdriveNtool give you full manual access unfortunately. Wattman just dumbs it down even further. I tried the same settings as you above, they work more or less but do indeed take your hashrate down quite a bit.

Yea i get that i could be doing higher, my settings "only" get me around 1860 hash.
Which is fine for me since its very reliable, can go on for days and the electricity price here in Portugal is awfull (0,17€ kwh...), so the power save is welcome.
It's also my gaming pc so i tried to avoid bios/voltage changes.

Thanks for the answer.

[P00P135]

Hello,

Someone know the difference between those Vega 56 ?

https://www.amazon.fr/Sapphire-11276-00-40G-graphique-Radeon-Express/dp/B077S1QS5R/ref=sr_1_6?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1513605433&sr=1-6&keywords=vega+56
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B07571TTNW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks

One is the old refrence cooler and the other is OC'd with custom cooler and needs three 8pin power connectors.

[dragonmike]

How the hell are we going to be able to supply power to a rack of these, no PSU has enough PCIe power connectors to feed six of these cards!? It's getting ridiculous...

[rednoW]

How the hell are we going to be able to supply power to a rack of these, no PSU has enough PCIe power connectors to feed six of these cards!? It's getting ridiculous...

the only hope is that it will work with 2 power connectors instead of 3.

[bill121]

How the hell are we going to be able to supply power to a rack of these, no PSU has enough PCIe power connectors to feed six of these cards!? It's getting ridiculous...

the only hope is that it will work with 2 power connectors instead of 3.

I've read that only 2 connectors are needed to run the custom Vegas the 3rd is only needed for overclocking.

[Pickle-Rick]

How the hell are we going to be able to supply power to a rack of these, no PSU has enough PCIe power connectors to feed six of these cards!? It's getting ridiculous...

the only hope is that it will work with 2 power connectors instead of 3.

I've read that only 2 connectors are needed to run the custom Vegas the 3rd is only needed for overclocking.

I hope so. Not all have 3 anyway I think. It is the Nitro's that have 3 from what I seen.

[commonorx]

I dont know how you got 1900h with only 925mhz on the memory.   GPU core sure doesnt matter as much but I find if I adjust memory speed at all it brings down the hash speed right away, I stay as close to 1105mhz as possible, anything below 1050mhz will definetly show.     
I do think its possible to run the top speeds even at 900mv if the temps are all below 70c.   I use a cold air intake from a window, its winter now so its not hard when temps are 5c outside ?


The latest AMD driver release  allows swapping of config files apparently, saved defaults for various protocols sounds possible.  However they dont switch to compute priority for every type of hashing, havent fully tried yet

Any UK users have got this and using the AMD VEGA cards?

Mind sharing the price and source to get them, I've been trying really hard to get the RX 580 from past 3 months but no luck, any help from UK users would be much appreciated.

Hope I get some answers, thanks.

You are a bit late to the party.  The best deals was on release.   We are in transition now hence the lack of stock.   I suggest you look at overclockers.co.uk and join the forums and look out for deals, not that I know of any forthcoming like I said

1100 core with 1025 memory, both at 875mV (set with wattman, or overdriventool) on blockchain driver definitely works on vega 64 with no mods , and yields over 1900 H/s at low consumption. And is stable.
So there is still room for exploration here.

Something's very weird. If I try 1100 core @ 875 and 950 hbm @ 900mV miner crashes after a few seconds. It's like the memory is hitting a wall above 930.

Ok so I just realised the GPUs aren't taking the OverdriveNtool settings apart from fan speed and memory clock. Core clock does whatever the fvck they want and so do the voltages. HWinfo64 shows 1.25V on the memory despite me having set it at 900mV... I think I'm going to give Wattman a go

Blockchain drivers dont support voltage adjustment. So it has to be done with softpp mod, overdriventool has a builtin editor for it. 2nd, hbm volts are offlimits, only way to mod it is to switch between v56 and v64 bios. V64 has 1.35 and v56 has 1.25v.

Thanks, that's a useful piece of info. The guides are good but I hadn't explicitely read about the fact the softpp mod was required to access voltages. I'll look into it in a bit more detail.

The hammer/blunt force approach to this is to go into wattman and increase the power draw slider for the card. Move it up a few percent to see if you don't feel like calculating new values for the reg. Its not precise enough I know but you can watch the watts at the wall.

[Morgon]

Have a question — I bought two Vega 56 that already have flashed bio from eBay. So how do you stock them back to original bios? TIA

Assuming you haven't yet connected these, or your system is otherwise off:

Flip the switch located on the front of the card so that it's pointing away from the connector plate. When Windows has booted, flip the switch back towards the plate. Then re-flash using ATIFlash (plenty of resources for this, just search). You can find your stock BIOS on TechPowerUp by matching your manufacturer.

[dragonmike]

I dont know how you got 1900h with only 925mhz on the memory.   GPU core sure doesnt matter as much but I find if I adjust memory speed at all it brings down the hash speed right away, I stay as close to 1105mhz as possible, anything below 1050mhz will definetly show.      
I do think its possible to run the top speeds even at 900mv if the temps are all below 70c.   I use a cold air intake from a window, its winter now so its not hard when temps are 5c outside ?


The latest AMD driver release  allows swapping of config files apparently, saved defaults for various protocols sounds possible.  However they dont switch to compute priority for every type of hashing, havent fully tried yet

Any UK users have got this and using the AMD VEGA cards?

Mind sharing the price and source to get them, I've been trying really hard to get the RX 580 from past 3 months but no luck, any help from UK users would be much appreciated.

Hope I get some answers, thanks.

You are a bit late to the party.  The best deals was on release.   We are in transition now hence the lack of stock.   I suggest you look at overclockers.co.uk and join the forums and look out for deals, not that I know of any forthcoming like I said

1100 core with 1025 memory, both at 875mV (set with wattman, or overdriventool) on blockchain driver definitely works on vega 64 with no mods , and yields over 1900 H/s at low consumption. And is stable.
So there is still room for exploration here.

Something's very weird. If I try 1100 core @ 875 and 950 hbm @ 900mV miner crashes after a few seconds. It's like the memory is hitting a wall above 930.

Ok so I just realised the GPUs aren't taking the OverdriveNtool settings apart from fan speed and memory clock. Core clock does whatever the fvck they want and so do the voltages. HWinfo64 shows 1.25V on the memory despite me having set it at 900mV... I think I'm going to give Wattman a go

Blockchain drivers dont support voltage adjustment. So it has to be done with softpp mod, overdriventool has a builtin editor for it. 2nd, hbm volts are offlimits, only way to mod it is to switch between v56 and v64 bios. V64 has 1.35 and v56 has 1.25v.

Thanks, that's a useful piece of info. The guides are good but I hadn't explicitely read about the fact the softpp mod was required to access voltages. I'll look into it in a bit more detail.

The hammer/blunt force approach to this is to go into wattman and increase the power draw slider for the card. Move it up a few percent to see if you don't feel like calculating new values for the reg. Its not precise enough I know but you can watch the watts at the wall.

What would this achieve though, other than sucking even more power?

Currently I have basically tried variations of these two main options (short of a bios mod):

1. 1407@905mV core and 925@900mV hbm (1900h/s/card - 1385W @ the wall for the 6-card rig)
2. core -20% tdp, 925@900mV hbm (1800h/s/card - 1125W @ the wall)

For case 1, HBM temp is between 75 and 82C
For case 2, HBM temp is between 60 and 70C

In either case I cannot increase hbm speed or the rig will crash.

Is a bios mod the only way to get higher speed? I read from other people clocking their Vega 56 HBM at close to 1100!... How on earth do they do that?

[ikicha]

I Want to ask, but im sorry for bad english and this is newbie question
Now i have Gigabyte H 110 mining edition with 6 PCI slot
now i using EVGA 600 W 80+ PSU For 2 x RX 570 GPU, and now Pin power for GPU is full ( only 2 x pin power from my PSU )
if i bought 2 Vega Card, what should i do? what recomended PSU ? and Vega card using 2 pin power, i dont know what PSU for this card

[car1999]

what about vega FE? Does the 16GB memory help for xmr mining?

[Michael20]

No benefit from 16gb memory of vega FE yet

[Ledipaa]

I dont know how you got 1900h with only 925mhz on the memory.   GPU core sure doesnt matter as much but I find if I adjust memory speed at all it brings down the hash speed right away, I stay as close to 1105mhz as possible, anything below 1050mhz will definetly show.      
I do think its possible to run the top speeds even at 900mv if the temps are all below 70c.   I use a cold air intake from a window, its winter now so its not hard when temps are 5c outside ?


The latest AMD driver release  allows swapping of config files apparently, saved defaults for various protocols sounds possible.  However they dont switch to compute priority for every type of hashing, havent fully tried yet

Any UK users have got this and using the AMD VEGA cards?

Mind sharing the price and source to get them, I've been trying really hard to get the RX 580 from past 3 months but no luck, any help from UK users would be much appreciated.

Hope I get some answers, thanks.

You are a bit late to the party.  The best deals was on release.   We are in transition now hence the lack of stock.   I suggest you look at overclockers.co.uk and join the forums and look out for deals, not that I know of any forthcoming like I said

1100 core with 1025 memory, both at 875mV (set with wattman, or overdriventool) on blockchain driver definitely works on vega 64 with no mods , and yields over 1900 H/s at low consumption. And is stable.
So there is still room for exploration here.

Something's very weird. If I try 1100 core @ 875 and 950 hbm @ 900mV miner crashes after a few seconds. It's like the memory is hitting a wall above 930.

Ok so I just realised the GPUs aren't taking the OverdriveNtool settings apart from fan speed and memory clock. Core clock does whatever the fvck they want and so do the voltages. HWinfo64 shows 1.25V on the memory despite me having set it at 900mV... I think I'm going to give Wattman a go

Blockchain drivers dont support voltage adjustment. So it has to be done with softpp mod, overdriventool has a builtin editor for it. 2nd, hbm volts are offlimits, only way to mod it is to switch between v56 and v64 bios. V64 has 1.35 and v56 has 1.25v.

Thanks, that's a useful piece of info. The guides are good but I hadn't explicitely read about the fact the softpp mod was required to access voltages. I'll look into it in a bit more detail.

The hammer/blunt force approach to this is to go into wattman and increase the power draw slider for the card. Move it up a few percent to see if you don't feel like calculating new values for the reg. Its not precise enough I know but you can watch the watts at the wall.

What would this achieve though, other than sucking even more power?

Currently I have basically tried variations of these two main options (short of a bios mod):

1. 1407@905mV core and 925@900mV hbm (1900h/s/card - 1385W @ the wall for the 6-card rig)
2. core -20% tdp, 925@900mV hbm (1800h/s/card - 1125W @ the wall)

For case 1, HBM temp is between 75 and 82C
For case 2, HBM temp is between 60 and 70C

In either case I cannot increase hbm speed or the rig will crash.

Is a bios mod the only way to get higher speed? I read from other people clocking their Vega 56 HBM at close to 1100!... How on earth do they do that?

There is no way to clock V56 HBM to 1100 without V64 bios ie. with higher mem voltage. Seems like 950Mhz with v56 bios is about max and some cant do even 900mhz. Then again, higher than 1100Mhz is possible by increasing SOC clock with same softppmod method. Default is 1107Mhz so anything over that wont work without mod. Increasing SOC also means you need to use higher core voltage, some need over 950mv some 900. Im using softppmod set at 865mv, and would need a lot more to increase SOC, which would mean way too much heat and noise.

[dragonmike]

I dont know how you got 1900h with only 925mhz on the memory.   GPU core sure doesnt matter as much but I find if I adjust memory speed at all it brings down the hash speed right away, I stay as close to 1105mhz as possible, anything below 1050mhz will definetly show.     
I do think its possible to run the top speeds even at 900mv if the temps are all below 70c.   I use a cold air intake from a window, its winter now so its not hard when temps are 5c outside ?


The latest AMD driver release  allows swapping of config files apparently, saved defaults for various protocols sounds possible.  However they dont switch to compute priority for every type of hashing, havent fully tried yet

Any UK users have got this and using the AMD VEGA cards?

Mind sharing the price and source to get them, I've been trying really hard to get the RX 580 from past 3 months but no luck, any help from UK users would be much appreciated.

Hope I get some answers, thanks.

You are a bit late to the party.  The best deals was on release.   We are in transition now hence the lack of stock.   I suggest you look at overclockers.co.uk and join the forums and look out for deals, not that I know of any forthcoming like I said

1100 core with 1025 memory, both at 875mV (set with wattman, or overdriventool) on blockchain driver definitely works on vega 64 with no mods , and yields over 1900 H/s at low consumption. And is stable.
So there is still room for exploration here.

Something's very weird. If I try 1100 core @ 875 and 950 hbm @ 900mV miner crashes after a few seconds. It's like the memory is hitting a wall above 930.

Ok so I just realised the GPUs aren't taking the OverdriveNtool settings apart from fan speed and memory clock. Core clock does whatever the fvck they want and so do the voltages. HWinfo64 shows 1.25V on the memory despite me having set it at 900mV... I think I'm going to give Wattman a go

Blockchain drivers dont support voltage adjustment. So it has to be done with softpp mod, overdriventool has a builtin editor for it. 2nd, hbm volts are offlimits, only way to mod it is to switch between v56 and v64 bios. V64 has 1.35 and v56 has 1.25v.

Thanks, that's a useful piece of info. The guides are good but I hadn't explicitely read about the fact the softpp mod was required to access voltages. I'll look into it in a bit more detail.

The hammer/blunt force approach to this is to go into wattman and increase the power draw slider for the card. Move it up a few percent to see if you don't feel like calculating new values for the reg. Its not precise enough I know but you can watch the watts at the wall.

What would this achieve though, other than sucking even more power?

Currently I have basically tried variations of these two main options (short of a bios mod):

1. 1407@905mV core and 925@900mV hbm (1900h/s/card - 1385W @ the wall for the 6-card rig)
2. core -20% tdp, 925@900mV hbm (1800h/s/card - 1125W @ the wall)

For case 1, HBM temp is between 75 and 82C
For case 2, HBM temp is between 60 and 70C

In either case I cannot increase hbm speed or the rig will crash.

Is a bios mod the only way to get higher speed? I read from other people clocking their Vega 56 HBM at close to 1100!... How on earth do they do that?

There is no way to clock V56 HBM to 1100 without V64 bios ie. with higher mem voltage. Seems like 950Mhz with v56 bios is about max and some cant do even 900mhz. Then again, higher than 1100Mhz is possible by increasing SOC clock with same softppmod method. Default is 1107Mhz so anything over that wont work without mod. Increasing SOC also means you need to use higher core voltage, some need over 950mv some 900. Im using softppmod set at 865mv, and would need a lot more to increase SOC, which would mean way too much heat and noise.

So the answer to get a faster, more efficient setup is really to flash the 64 bios.
No chance of getting higher HBM speeds nor a more efficient setup otherwise, as you couldn't offset the loss of hashpower due to lower TDP/core speed by higher mem speed.

Looks like I'm gonna play around with vbioses over the xmas holidays...

Which bios will people usually flash? The primary one (i.e. the default switch setting on the Vegas) or the secondary? Does it make a difference?

[Ledipaa]

I dont know how you got 1900h with only 925mhz on the memory.   GPU core sure doesnt matter as much but I find if I adjust memory speed at all it brings down the hash speed right away, I stay as close to 1105mhz as possible, anything below 1050mhz will definetly show.     
I do think its possible to run the top speeds even at 900mv if the temps are all below 70c.   I use a cold air intake from a window, its winter now so its not hard when temps are 5c outside ?


The latest AMD driver release  allows swapping of config files apparently, saved defaults for various protocols sounds possible.  However they dont switch to compute priority for every type of hashing, havent fully tried yet

Any UK users have got this and using the AMD VEGA cards?

Mind sharing the price and source to get them, I've been trying really hard to get the RX 580 from past 3 months but no luck, any help from UK users would be much appreciated.

Hope I get some answers, thanks.

You are a bit late to the party.  The best deals was on release.   We are in transition now hence the lack of stock.   I suggest you look at overclockers.co.uk and join the forums and look out for deals, not that I know of any forthcoming like I said

1100 core with 1025 memory, both at 875mV (set with wattman, or overdriventool) on blockchain driver definitely works on vega 64 with no mods , and yields over 1900 H/s at low consumption. And is stable.
So there is still room for exploration here.

Something's very weird. If I try 1100 core @ 875 and 950 hbm @ 900mV miner crashes after a few seconds. It's like the memory is hitting a wall above 930.

Ok so I just realised the GPUs aren't taking the OverdriveNtool settings apart from fan speed and memory clock. Core clock does whatever the fvck they want and so do the voltages. HWinfo64 shows 1.25V on the memory despite me having set it at 900mV... I think I'm going to give Wattman a go

Blockchain drivers dont support voltage adjustment. So it has to be done with softpp mod, overdriventool has a builtin editor for it. 2nd, hbm volts are offlimits, only way to mod it is to switch between v56 and v64 bios. V64 has 1.35 and v56 has 1.25v.

Thanks, that's a useful piece of info. The guides are good but I hadn't explicitely read about the fact the softpp mod was required to access voltages. I'll look into it in a bit more detail.

The hammer/blunt force approach to this is to go into wattman and increase the power draw slider for the card. Move it up a few percent to see if you don't feel like calculating new values for the reg. Its not precise enough I know but you can watch the watts at the wall.

What would this achieve though, other than sucking even more power?

Currently I have basically tried variations of these two main options (short of a bios mod):

1. 1407@905mV core and 925@900mV hbm (1900h/s/card - 1385W @ the wall for the 6-card rig)
2. core -20% tdp, 925@900mV hbm (1800h/s/card - 1125W @ the wall)

For case 1, HBM temp is between 75 and 82C
For case 2, HBM temp is between 60 and 70C

In either case I cannot increase hbm speed or the rig will crash.

Is a bios mod the only way to get higher speed? I read from other people clocking their Vega 56 HBM at close to 1100!... How on earth do they do that?

There is no way to clock V56 HBM to 1100 without V64 bios ie. with higher mem voltage. Seems like 950Mhz with v56 bios is about max and some cant do even 900mhz. Then again, higher than 1100Mhz is possible by increasing SOC clock with same softppmod method. Default is 1107Mhz so anything over that wont work without mod. Increasing SOC also means you need to use higher core voltage, some need over 950mv some 900. Im using softppmod set at 865mv, and would need a lot more to increase SOC, which would mean way too much heat and noise.

So the answer to get a faster, more efficient setup is really to flash the 64 bios.
No chance of getting higher HBM speeds nor a more efficient setup otherwise, as you couldn't offset the loss of hashpower due to lower TDP/core speed by higher mem speed.

Looks like I'm gonna play around with vbioses over the xmas holidays...

Which bios will people usually flash? The primary one (i.e. the default switch setting on the Vegas) or the secondary? Does it make a difference?

I think the 2nd bios ie backup bios is non overwritable. So you can only do it with main bios, 2nd bios is always there is something goes wrong for main

[Poseidon_]

Sameone mining with asrock ab350pro4?

I had several s problem to put 4 Vega in that motherboard and I can't take 1900h with that 4 Vegas, Just take 1900h for 2, and 1890h that tird and 1320h at last Vega...
I'm try so many times and do everything that's have at Vega.miningguides

I take 1900h without flahs bios and just put at 900mhz!


May the problem can be a motherboard?