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Author Topic: Any word on amd vega hash rates?  (Read 202723 times)
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December 29, 2017, 07:33:37 PM
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You can use the same cable with two connectors
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December 29, 2017, 08:47:58 PM
Last edit: December 29, 2017, 10:09:44 PM by Bankincoins
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Who is buying these things at 800 dollars? At that rate why not go with a 1080 Ti? The Vegas are only amazing at Cryptonight from what I can tell.  Almost a cryptonight ASIC as a mining card...

 Why wouldn't they? A modified vega gets double what a 1080ti can net you in returns. Even if it's cryptonight/ethereum only there are these things called Exchanges where you can then convert to your coin of choice. Not sure if you've heard of them before.
Not anymore my friend. A 1080Ti, albeit overpriced, will now net you more per day than a Vega. If the Vega was priced at MSRP then there would be no contest. But at $800+, there are better choices out there.
You do realize the only reason for that is the sudden pump zclassic/zcash/zcoin/hush have had in the last couple days right?  Once difficulty adjusts Vega will still be better over all. When monero pumped from 140 to 400 vegas we're making 4X+ what anything else made. Guess what the difficulty caught up with moneros price and we're back at old profitably, same will happen with the 1080tis and we'll be back with vega as #1. Btw I have both reg moded vega rigs mining ETN and 1080ti rigs mining Equihash/Lyra2z. Can't even imagine the crazy profitability we'd get per card if ETN makes a price action,  would be insane.

In short the 1080ti can barely keep up with vega with huge price actions XD still no contest.

Except the 1080ti is better at literally everything except cryptonight. It's not even close at all when you look at hash power per Kilowatt used.  How is Vega better overall?  1080ti can chase the crazy prices every week while Vega hopes cryptonight coins stay pumped up. Just like you said, difficulty caught up on the cryptonight coins. 1080ti is more flexible to allow you to mine any algonwith a hot coin.

Honestly asking to see what I'm missing here as I'm trying to decide between them right now.  I'd get a Vega55 if it were 400 dollars but it seems like a tough choice when you're talking 750ish for either 1080ti or Vega56.

I don't get how the Vega is better because monero and sumo and etn have pumped, but the 1080ti isnt better because the equihash coins pumped.  The Vega is awesome for crypto night and I love monero, but what happens when there are more Vegas out there in the hands of miners and are trapped mining cryptonight? Difficulty will skyrocket especially if the profitability of one of the 3 or 4 popular cryptonight coins decreases, will it not?

Today, using last 24 hours profit only, 1080ti has 15 coins over 5 dollars a day profit.  Vega has 4 coins above 5 dollar per day.
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December 30, 2017, 03:08:57 AM
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The max mem overclock I can get on 2x Vega56 is 930Mhz and 890Mhz @ 900mV.
They are giving me 1940 and 1860 H/s respectively.

Used powertables in registry and blockchain driver. Everything adjusted through OverdriveNTool without using WatMan.

Any hints on how to get more overclock?

Try flashing your card with the Vega 64 BIOS and re-applying the registry mod (use the 1100 HBM to start, to see if it's stable).

Tried flashing to Vega64 BIOS before, but the cards were drawing to much Watts from the wall  Undecided
Maybe I am just unlucky in silicon lottery  Smiley
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December 30, 2017, 03:49:43 AM
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Tried flashing to Vega64 BIOS before, but the cards were drawing to much Watts from the wall  Undecided
Maybe I am just unlucky in silicon lottery  Smiley
The way I do it is to use HWiNFO64 to monitor voltage, and set core voltage to 900mV. If that takes under load (Cast/Stak is stable, and HWiNFO reports core at 900), then I'll try dropping it to 881.

Of course, I've only been successful in about half of my cards (7 of 14), but many of my others are in the low 900s, which will push the draw up to 180W or so which isn't bad; I could probably back that off and hash around 1900 at 150W, which may be more palatable for some.
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December 31, 2017, 08:54:02 AM
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The max mem overclock I can get on 2x Vega56 is 930Mhz and 890Mhz @ 900mV.
They are giving me 1940 and 1860 H/s respectively.

Used powertables in registry and blockchain driver. Everything adjusted through OverdriveNTool without using WatMan.

Any hints on how to get more overclock?

Try flashing your card with the Vega 64 BIOS and re-applying the registry mod (use the 1100 HBM to start, to see if it's stable).

Tried flashing to Vega64 BIOS before, but the cards were drawing to much Watts from the wall  Undecided
Maybe I am just unlucky in silicon lottery  Smiley

V64 should not use much more power. Im using 1350Mhz and 865mV by registry mod. Taking about 170W per card from wall. Fans are between 2050-2250rpm and temps from 53-58, depending on card and how cold air comes in from window.
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December 31, 2017, 03:26:55 PM
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Vega profitability doesnt matter for me, as they are OOS everywhere and no supply in sight.  I have yet to see an aftermarket GPU in stores too.  Ill try to grab some, they are expensive here at 700$ CAD for a 56.
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December 31, 2017, 05:13:24 PM
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I'm wondering what are you mining with the vegas ?

I've been mining ETN but now Nicehash pays a lot more and I can't find the coin everybody is mining. I prefer to mine the coin directly instead of going trough nicehash.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks.
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December 31, 2017, 05:41:26 PM
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Best results so far for a V56: 1950-1975h/s @ 130-135w

1. Use stock bios

2. Use the custom power play table: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsrdFd4FVQj_hU0lNZqgJaGeLffI

3. In Wattman, set voltages to manual, fan speed to at least 3000 (this might not be necessary), and OC mem to 975.

4. Use intensities 2016 and 1736

If this got you your highest hash/watts.. feel welcome to donate to my XMR address: 4JUdGzvrMFDWrUUwY3toJATSeNwjn54LkCnKBPRzDuhzi5vSepHfUckJNxRL2gjkNrSqtCoRUrEDAgR wsQvVCjZbRzX7Z35FpEg29UmnBp

foundational work credit goes to hellae but I optimized it a bit more than his latest recommended setup: https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/74hjqn/monero_and_vega_the_definitive_guide/?sort=new

Really?  135 watts, wow, how are you measuring this? 
Also, what do you mean intensities at 2016 and 1736, how are you setting these?

I quit using wattman becuase it seems flaky, I'm not using custom tables because it forces the settings from registry on every startup and each card seems to have different tolerance to OC.  Do you know where we can find an editor to tune these?
Otherwise, this is a great way to get stuck in a loop, if your card can't handle those settings, IMO.
I switched to OverDriveNtool, which has a command line to set params each time and I can tune while running then save

Are you using xmr_cast-vega?
I have OC Mem AT 935/900mv and get 1950-1975 for all 5, but my watts measured at the wall are bout 200W each 
   No GPU clock adjusting seems to make any difference in hash or power.   I can get to 2050ish with 950, but can't keep em stable
   BlockChain Aug 23 drivers, stock 56 bios, no power adjust, 60deg target/ 70 max 


   



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January 01, 2018, 12:13:38 PM
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Hello

Any "genuine" word about custom vega's hashrate, so far only reading really low hashrates ( are all of these with blockchain drivers) but very good temps with low noise
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January 01, 2018, 01:03:34 PM
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I'm going crazy. My Vega 56 is causing massiv problems.

- Flashed 64 BIOS on my 56.
- 1600-1700 H/s
- Intensity: 1600

if I change intensity to a higher number the rig is crashing.

Only 1x VEGA 56 (flashed to 64) is installed.

How can I fix this?

Overdrive profile:
Code:
[Profile_0]
Name=Vega64
GPU_P0=852;900
GPU_P1=991;900
GPU_P2=1084;900
GPU_P3=1138;900
GPU_P4=1150;900
GPU_P5=1202;900
GPU_P6=1212;905
GPU_P7=1408;925
Mem_P0=167;900
Mem_P1=500;900
Mem_P2=800;900
Mem_P3=1100;905
Fan_Min=3000
Fan_Max=4900
Fan_Target=75
Fan_Acoustic=2400
Power_Temp=85
Power_Target=0

stak xmr config:
Code:
"gpu_thread_num" : 2,

"gpu_threads_conf" : [
    { "index" : 0, "intensity" : 1600, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
    { "index" : 0, "intensity" : 1600, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
],

stak xmr log:
Code:
HASHRATE REPORT
| ID |   10s |   60s |   15m | ID |   10s |   60s |   15m |
|  0 | 801.8 | 821.9 |  (na) |  1 | 799.0 | 820.1 |  (na) |
-----------------------------------------------------
Totals:   1600.8 1642.0  (na) H/s
Highest:  1716.3 H/s
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January 01, 2018, 01:07:44 PM
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I'm going crazy. My Vega 56 is causing massiv problems.

- Flashed 64 BIOS on my 56.
- 1600-1700 H/s
- Intensity: 1600

if I change intensity to a higher number the rig is crashing.

Only 1x VEGA 56 (flashed to 64) is installed.

How can I fix this?

Overdrive profile:
Code:
[Profile_0]
Name=Vega64
GPU_P0=852;900
GPU_P1=991;900
GPU_P2=1084;900
GPU_P3=1138;900
GPU_P4=1150;900
GPU_P5=1202;900
GPU_P6=1212;905
GPU_P7=1408;925
Mem_P0=167;900
Mem_P1=500;900
Mem_P2=800;900
Mem_P3=1100;905
Fan_Min=3000
Fan_Max=4900
Fan_Target=75
Fan_Acoustic=2400
Power_Temp=85
Power_Target=0

stak xmr config:
Code:
"gpu_thread_num" : 2,

"gpu_threads_conf" : [
    { "index" : 0, "intensity" : 1600, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
    { "index" : 0, "intensity" : 1600, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : false },
],

stak xmr log:
Code:
HASHRATE REPORT
| ID |   10s |   60s |   15m | ID |   10s |   60s |   15m |
|  0 | 801.8 | 821.9 |  (na) |  1 | 799.0 | 820.1 |  (na) |
-----------------------------------------------------
Totals:   1600.8 1642.0  (na) H/s
Highest:  1716.3 H/s
I had to increase mem p3 voltage to be able to run significantly higher mem speeds (and consequently higher hashrate). If you have done the soft power play mod it will be a breeze.
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January 01, 2018, 08:34:17 PM
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Who is buying these things at 800 dollars? At that rate why not go with a 1080 Ti? The Vegas are only amazing at Cryptonight from what I can tell.  Almost a cryptonight ASIC as a mining card...
No, it is not just cryptonight...
ETH is a good too 44,5Mh/s
44.5reported, real eth hashrate for 56(to64) vega is 43.
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January 01, 2018, 09:38:48 PM
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Who is buying these things at 800 dollars? At that rate why not go with a 1080 Ti? The Vegas are only amazing at Cryptonight from what I can tell.  Almost a cryptonight ASIC as a mining card...
No, it is not just cryptonight...
ETH is a good too 44,5Mh/s
44.5reported, real eth hashrate for 56(to64) vega is 43.

For almost the same amount of money you could get 90 MH/s from three RXs.
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January 01, 2018, 10:21:40 PM
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Who is buying these things at 800 dollars? At that rate why not go with a 1080 Ti? The Vegas are only amazing at Cryptonight from what I can tell.  Almost a cryptonight ASIC as a mining card...
No, it is not just cryptonight...
ETH is a good too 44,5Mh/s
44.5reported, real eth hashrate for 56(to64) vega is 43.

For almost the same amount of money you could get 90 MH/s from three RXs.

Which requires 3 pcie slots, risers, power connections.  Some people just don't understand the importance of rig density.
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January 02, 2018, 11:01:43 AM
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i have a 3 amd vega 64 gpu. i use claymore mining software 10.2 version. i set all of my gpu at 1100mhz memory clock, no change in gpu core clock,fan at 2500-3500, power limit -24% . i used asus b250 mining expert 19gpus motherboard. my main card got 44mh/s at this specs but other 2 cards get only 35-36mh/s each. please anyone tell me what's the problem.my amd driver is 17.12.2 latest driver.
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January 02, 2018, 08:59:08 PM
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I'm wondering what are you mining with the vegas ?

I've been mining ETN but now Nicehash pays a lot more and I can't find the coin everybody is mining. I prefer to mine the coin directly instead of going trough nicehash.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks.

IT IS ETN, whattomine just takes away 35% by default due to pool bad luck. Easy way to calc correct value is to add 10% to what whattomine gives for nh cryptonigh.
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January 02, 2018, 09:20:56 PM
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I'm wondering what are you mining with the vegas ?

I've been mining ETN but now Nicehash pays a lot more and I can't find the coin everybody is mining. I prefer to mine the coin directly instead of going trough nicehash.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks.

IT IS ETN, whattomine just takes away 35% by default due to pool bad luck. Easy way to calc correct value is to add 10% to what whattomine gives for nh cryptonigh.
no, it is not etn, it is intense coin
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January 02, 2018, 09:46:09 PM
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I'm wondering what are you mining with the vegas ?

I've been mining ETN but now Nicehash pays a lot more and I can't find the coin everybody is mining. I prefer to mine the coin directly instead of going trough nicehash.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks.

IT IS ETN, whattomine just takes away 35% by default due to pool bad luck. Easy way to calc correct value is to add 10% to what whattomine gives for nh cryptonigh.
no, it is not etn, it is intense coin

I think Intense coin is far to small to have such an impact...only with a few bitcoins trading each day. But i have no better guess than etn due to the bad luck factor on whattomine...
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January 03, 2018, 12:52:59 PM
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anyone knows what brand of hbm2 was used in the reference powercolor vega 56?
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January 03, 2018, 02:47:06 PM
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anyone knows what brand of hbm2 was used in the reference powercolor vega 56?
Would have had to be Samsung; Hynix didn't have theirs available until the aftermarket boards which didn't start production until what, 4 months into Vega lifecycle?

PowerColor got a bad rap, but I think it was just silicon lottery for the ones doing public benchmarks. I have a family member with a reference PC Vega 56 with no issues.
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