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Author Topic: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine  (Read 823855 times)
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September 26, 2017, 08:56:18 AM
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I do not understand this accusation that SIGT is a scam. LItecoin and Dogecoin are minor improvements from the code base of Bitcoin and do not posses any major innovation as compared to newer coins such as Ethereum. However, I doubt anybody here would consider Litecoin and Dogecoin as scam coins. Why then single out Signatum?


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September 26, 2017, 08:58:31 AM
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we all know switching to pos don't influence the prize becaouse the price it's determinate by market rules.

There is no market value, that is the problem. You have a 'dev team' who are miners and have managed to hype the supposed 'innovative' nature of this coin in order to sell it to a bunch of newbies who think it is a legitimate claim and that the coin has valuable technology which the cryptocurrency industry will want to buy in to and it absolutely does not.

You are being fooled into buying in to a coin where the devs have lied to you about it being innovative and the lie they used wasn't even that credible in the first place because, as I have already pointed out, setting the choice of algo to use in a clonecoin is just another minor option change.

Going back to what I said about it likely being a clone of Blackcoin, due to the dev team's failure to even bother with changing the leading 'B' on the address, I thought I'd actually take a look and it turns out I am right:

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As i said before, if you want people to listen to you, it must be done in a calm and dignified manner, with real evidence, not doctored or massaged truths to suit you agenda.


Which part of the previous posts whereby I have presented objective reasoning and evidence in a calm and dignified manner offends you?

Which part of the real evidence I have presented do you claim to be 'doctored'? Please present evidence of this or withdraw the accusation. You are not helping your argument one bit by repeatedly asserting things which are patently untrue.


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September 26, 2017, 08:59:45 AM
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Can I mine this coin with iMac i5 with Nvidia can you tell me is it profitable? Other than mining and exchange other mean of getting this coin maybe? I am new to all this..

anyone here with mining experience need some help.. should I bother is it worht it. Thank you
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September 26, 2017, 09:01:33 AM
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I do not understand this accusation that SIGT is a scam. LItecoin and Dogecoin are minor improvements from the code base of Bitcoin and do not posses any major innovation as compared to newer coins such as Ethereum. However, I doubt anybody here would consider Litecoin and Dogecoin as scam coins. Why then single out Signatum?



I am starting to believe CryptoDevil is a bot, as he just regurgitates the same bile over and over and over,

Its boring and holds no truth to say the least, but hey what would i know, just a sock-puppet, shill supporter because i stood up for the community as he and his goons viciously attacked innocent people with a weak and pathetic claim.  
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September 26, 2017, 09:05:03 AM
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Can I mine this coin with iMac i5 with Nvidia can you tell me is it profitable? Other than mining and exchange other mean of getting this coin maybe? I am new to all this..

anyone here with mining experience need some help.. should I bother is it worht it. Thank you

I am not sure what kind of hashrate you will get with that, it will likely be very low, and with only 2.5 days left to mine you wouldn't get many coins anyway.
At this late stage I would recommend buying some SIGT on Yobit instead, its a good price below 1000 sat at the moment.
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September 26, 2017, 09:09:24 AM
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we all know switching to pos don't influence the prize becaouse the price it's determinate by market rules.

There is no market value, that is the problem. You have a 'dev team' who are miners and have managed to hype the supposed 'innovative' nature of this coin in order to sell it to a bunch of newbies who think it is a legitimate claim and that the coin has valuable technology which the cryptocurrency industry will want to buy in to and it absolutely does not.

You are being fooled into buying in to a coin where the devs have lied to you about it being innovative and the lie they used wasn't even that credible in the first place because, as I have already pointed out, setting the choice of algo to use in a clonecoin is just another minor option change.

Going back to what I said about it likely being a clone of Blackcoin, due to the dev team's failure to even bother with changing the leading 'B' on the address, I thought I'd actually take a look and it turns out I am right:

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As i said before, if you want people to listen to you, it must be done in a calm and dignified manner, with real evidence, not doctored or massaged truths to suit you agenda.


Which part of the previous posts whereby I have presented objective reasoning and evidence in a calm and dignified manner offends you?

Which part of the real evidence I have presented do you claim to be 'doctored'? Please present evidence of this or withdraw the accusation. You are not helping your argument one bit by repeatedly asserting things which are patently untrue.



Spamming giant red letter words like "Scam" is not calm, nor dignified, giving negative trust to those who oppose your weak claim is not calm, nor dignified, you have a short memory. you present no objective reasoning, all you present is a tirade of false accusations of "scam" without real proof (proof of code, is not proof of scam).
I will not withdraw my accusation as you have pointed out;

 ..."You are not helping your argument one bit by repeatedly asserting things which are patently untrue."...


Repeating scam every post is exactly that. maybe you should take your own advice, instead of acting like a mindless halfwit. You have lost All your credibility here, so please be so kind as to move on with whats left of your name.
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September 26, 2017, 09:23:08 AM
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Yeahh Cheesy

Pos Pos.....

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September 26, 2017, 09:28:23 AM
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you warned us, so now Let us make our decision wrong or correct that they are[/color]

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September 26, 2017, 09:32:41 AM
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Hahah it's funny how everybody gets triggered when something gets exposed
Whatever arguments you throw at them, they will stay in denial doesnt matter
silly little scam noob community

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September 26, 2017, 09:34:44 AM
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Hahah it's funny how everybody gets triggered when something gets exposed
silly little noob community

I'm not triggered and nothing has been exposed. I do get tired of people that spam the same BS over and over again. I'd think there'd be forum rules against that. I guess not.
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September 26, 2017, 09:37:06 AM
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Hahah it's funny how everybody gets triggered when something gets exposed
silly little noob community

I'm not triggered and nothing has been exposed. I do get tired of people that spam the same BS over and over again. I'd think there'd be forum rules against that. I guess not.
It's a clone coin you can't deny that so why would you say this is BS?
Hard facts were thrown here

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September 26, 2017, 09:38:36 AM
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Hahah it's funny how everybody gets triggered when something gets exposed
Whatever arguments you throw at them, they will stay in denial doesnt matter
silly little scam noob community

no arguments at all, who was scammed? why you insult us mate?

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September 26, 2017, 09:38:56 AM
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Hahah it's funny how everybody gets triggered when something gets exposed
silly little noob community

I'm not triggered and nothing has been exposed. I do get tired of people that spam the same BS over and over again. I'd think there'd be forum rules against that. I guess not.
It's a clone coin you can't deny that so why would you say this is BS?
Hard facts were thrown here

Read my previous posts.
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September 26, 2017, 09:39:54 AM
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Hahah it's funny how everybody gets triggered when something gets exposed
silly little noob community

I'm not triggered and nothing has been exposed. I do get tired of people that spam the same BS over and over again. I'd think there'd be forum rules against that. I guess not.

Put Jootn2kx on your ignore list @coreshift, everybody else has, hes a disgusting foul creature. Nobody cares what shite this clown has to say.   Wink
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September 26, 2017, 09:42:22 AM
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Which part of the previous posts whereby I have presented objective reasoning and evidence in a calm and dignified manner offends you?

Which part of the real evidence I have presented do you claim to be 'doctored'? Please present evidence of this or withdraw the accusation. You are not helping your argument one bit by repeatedly asserting things which are patently untrue.



no objective, no evidence, you can insult only young accounts. Who do not know I recommend to scroll through the last pages and think for yourself.

1 more time? cryptodevil, who does scam you?

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September 26, 2017, 09:45:25 AM
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Hahah it's funny how everybody gets triggered when something gets exposed
silly little noob community

I'm not triggered and nothing has been exposed. I do get tired of people that spam the same BS over and over again. I'd think there'd be forum rules against that. I guess not.

Put Jootn2kx on your ignore list @coreshift, everybody else has, hes a disgusting foul creature. Nobody cares what shite this clown has to say.   Wink
bla bla bla i dont care, and i stay here posting shit until everyone knows you are the biggest scam here with probably one of the most SIGT holders from pre mine

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September 26, 2017, 09:47:46 AM
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Then why does it have copy-paste code? Why would it have an address format of another coin?


It does not have copy-paste code, this is what you claim. This uses a new algorithm.

Setting a different PoW algorithm in a clonecoin is no different to setting the block-time or money supply or reward, or any of the other variables which define a coin. It is just a section of the coin-code where you set these particular attributes.

It does NOT require ANY innovative or unique coding, that is why there are so many clonecoins with different variables which are all based on the same coin-code. As I said, given that Signatum is a PoW/PoS codebase and has a leading 'B' for its address, I'm going with it being a clone of 'Blackoin'.

Speaking of 'unique tech', I have taken a quick look at the Signatum website where they make this rather bold claim towards their 'technology':
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Except, of course, the marketplace isn't their technology at all. As I said, it is merely a copy-paste of a basic UI you can download and skin yourself:
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Stick your logo in the section marked and off you go.

As I said, the 'dev team' isn't developing anything, they are just fobbing you off on cheap copy-pasta wallets and web 'services'.



lol.. you are absolutely clueless about development

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September 26, 2017, 09:51:03 AM
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Hahah it's funny how everybody gets triggered when something gets exposed
silly little noob community

I'm not triggered and nothing has been exposed. I do get tired of people that spam the same BS over and over again. I'd think there'd be forum rules against that. I guess not.
It's a clone coin you can't deny that so why would you say this is BS?
Hard facts were thrown here

Hard facts were not thrown here.

Hard fact is that some people are scamming against Signatum quite intentionally. If you read and understand properly you would know that Signatum is not a clone coin as they are scamming. Their limited argument would make every single coin that were released after Bitcoin a clone coin.

Hard fact is: there are many clone coins against which no one is screaming. Rather some people are scamming against Signatum which is a new coin, a better coin and has lot of potentials to improve in future.
Lol because of what? because it has a "special" algoritm? and POS?
Gladly you don't run a real business in real life you would go broke in 1 day

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September 26, 2017, 10:49:21 AM
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Interesting arguments, some make sense, some not. Some resort to name calling, some keep calm. Here's my 2 cents.

All coins are based on the bitcoin code base. So in a sense, all are clones of bitcoin. Only bitcoin was the original in blockchain technology. Every other coin just copied from bitcoin. It seems some here really hate Signatum for some reason. I see that the devs did not promise the moon in their whitepaper. What they listed that they will do, they delivered many of them. Let's compare that to multi-million dollar ICOs which have yet to deliver even a single decent web site. If you are accusing Signatum of being a scam, shouldn't you be accusing more those hundreds of coins who raised millions of dollars in their ICOs but have not delivered any single code?

As I see it, a scam coin can only be confirmed if the devs left and left the community hanging. Have the devs left yet? Last I heard, that's a big NO. They even jostled with Cryptopia so that the community can get back their coins. Signatum is no different when Litecoin or Dogecoin  when it was released. There weren't revolutionary, they were just copy cats of bitcoin. But the communities that developed around Litecoin and Dogecoin are what made these coins prosper and get new features and technologies down the road. Can Signatum do the same? I guess we are about to find out. Pure POS is in 2 days time.

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September 26, 2017, 10:58:27 AM
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Don't you guys have anything better to do than to flame each other on the internet?

Signatum is an altcoin, all altcoins are inherently risky. Even with good developers, theres no guarantee of success. Shit, even Bitcoin is not guaranteed to succeed. Signatum isn't a scam, its an altcoin that exists, you can mine it......at least for another day or so. There's no "premine" although I wouldn't be surprised if the devs were the first ones to mine it themselves. But shit, everyone needs money right? If thats your problem about the coin, go yell at DASH! That should be right up your alley. But last I checked, DASH hash 2billion dollars marketcap, so good luck with that.

If you don't like Signatum, don't buy it, don't use it, don't get involved with it. Obviously there are alot of people that thinks this coin is going places, if it does, then good for them! If it doesn't then lol too bad so sad I told you so. But you don't get anything posting shit here.

If you think Its a scam, a single post detailing why is enough. Any reasonable person will be able to form their own conclusions based on the information given. Spamming this thread doesn't help anyone and makes you look like an idiot who has too much time on their hands and don't have anything else to do but farm post counts.

If there was like just 50 pages in this thread and they all said it was a scam, it would've been dead. But thats not the case, and no amount of spam will change history.

Many people come here for news, all they get is a flame war its stupid.

For those supporting Signatum, just post links to the Discord/telegram/reddit for people to follow the coin. This forum's going to shit.
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