[ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees

[Lindsey-Crypto]

Cute , guess you lost money.

Don't blame me because you are dim witted.
feel free to fuck off

Bitcoin Cash 24 hour Trading Volume is $3,029,520,000    higher than old 1mb Bitcoin $2,894,220,000 , at the time of this post.

╥Aztek

You say some interesting things.
But for those of us who are not very technical at all, could you or (anyone) kindly do a point by point comparison of the technologies?

On one hand what does BTC have and on the other side what does BCC have.

This would take me forever to do so I would understand if no one has the time.

Or maybe someone either already knows or it has been done and a link can be posted.

Good day.

(Ahem)....by BCC I actually meant BCH  of course.

Better do your research somewhere else outside of this trollbox. Technically there is no need for this coin to exist, for every mentioned aspect there are better coins who fullfill certain needs. But of course you can money with BCC/BCH.

[grasshpr]

Bitcoin Cash 24 hour Trading Volume is $3,029,520,000    higher than old 1mb Bitcoin $2,894,220,000 , at the time of this post.

╥Aztek

You say some interesting things.
But for those of us who are not very technical at all, could you or (anyone) kindly do a point by point comparison of the technologies?

On one hand what does BTC have and on the other side what does BCC have.

This would take me forever to do so I would understand if no one has the time.

Or maybe someone either already knows or it has been done and a link can be posted.

Good day.

Bitcoin Cash                         vs  old 1mb Bitcoin
Lower Transaction fees          vs   Higher Transaction Fees
Spam Attack resistant           vs  Spam Attack susceptible
Better Difficulty adjustment   vs  2 week difficulty adjustment, that can result in a Death Spiral when the majority of miners switch

*Death Spiral explained: http://bitcoinandtheblockchain.blogspot.com/2017/08/chain-death-spiral-fatal-bitcoin.html

Fact that Bitcoin Cash was 13X less expensive for ~week, giving the power players time to buy up the majority of Bitcoin Cash for a fraction of the price they will make it in the coming months as they collapse 1mb Bitcoin and move to Bitcoin Cash permanently.
From an economic standpoint , it is just too sweet a deal for the power players to pass up, their profits from the switch will be insanely high.


╥Aztek

But currently..

Bitcoin Cash                         vs  old 1mb Bitcoin
Transaction times hours              minutes

[grasshpr]

But currently..

Bitcoin Cash                         vs  old 1mb Bitcoin
Transaction times hours              minutes

You must have a bad memory , a few months ago , old 1 mb bitcoin was taking days to complete transactions due to its inability to handle the transactions load.
research the forum with all of the complaints people made, it is not hard to find.

Since it will be more profitable to mine Cash instead of old 1mb, enough miners will switch that there should be no time difference within 2 weeks or so.
Then old 1mb bitcoin problems will become even more apparent, as transaction stalling increases.
Which you can watch here: https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions


╥Aztek

I was transacting BTC fine so maybe a missed the point when it took days
Ok lets talk more seriously.. say Bitcoin Cash takes over..are there any cons you see in BCH vs BTC? less skilled devs, some questionable protocol changes etc?

[tekmobile]

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[Mrpumperitis]

Cute , guess you lost money.

Don't blame me because you are dim witted.
feel free to fuck off

Bitcoin Cash 24 hour Trading Volume is $3,029,520,000    higher than old 1mb Bitcoin $2,894,220,000 , at the time of this post.

╥Aztek

You say some interesting things.
But for those of us who are not very technical at all, could you or (anyone) kindly do a point by point comparison of the technologies?

On one hand what does BTC have and on the other side what does BCC have.

This would take me forever to do so I would understand if no one has the time.

Or maybe someone either already knows or it has been done and a link can be posted.

Good day.

Heres some info m8, but i would advise ,research more.



http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/07/23/bitcoin-cash-splitting-segwit

https://www.segwetters.org/  


https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@krabgat/what-is-segwit


The arguments against Segwit are:

    The block size increase is not enough to satisfy the growing needs of Bitcoin’s user base.
    Others see a hidden agenda as a large number of people working on SegWit are also employed by a company called Blockstream, whose primary product is side-chain solutions.
    Because a side-chain’s transaction will be verified by a trusted third party it is an unacceptable compromise because this is what the blockchain is supposed to eliminate.


The SegWit is providing solution to the following challenges in the network;

    Resolve the weak spot in the Bitcoin software
    Increase of the block size limit to an absolute maximum of 4 MB. The actual block size will depend on the network conditions. It is predicted by experts to be in the range of about two to 2.1 megabytes immediately after SegWit’s activation.
    Remove the barrier to the implementation of second-layer solutions (side-chains) like the proposed Lightning Network. Second-layer solutions remove the bulk of the transactions off the blockchain to a side-chain.

(bcc solves these issuses and more)
If Bitcoin Cash gets majority of PoW then it becomes de facto Bitcoin.

[Mrpumperitis]

https://cash.coin.dance/blocks
There have been 1101 blocks mined since the hard fork.
(1578 blocks behind the original chain)

The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 13% of the original chain's difficulty.

The original chain has grown 2.29GB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.

It is currently 61% more profitable to mine on the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.

[Vindly]

1000 $ today ?

[ChainSmoker]

Better do your research somewhere else outside of this trollbox. Technically there is no need for this coin to exist, for every mentioned aspect there are better coins who fullfill certain needs. But of course you can money with BCC/BCH.

Well , at least you admit you are a troll.

If you look here
https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

The reason for Bitcoin Cash becomes apparent.
With Bitcoin Cash , you will not have the Transaction Stalling like old 1 mb Bitcoin.


╥Aztek

Lol ever heard about Lightening network you paid shill?I came to accept that from trolls like you that FUD around bitcoin is never going to end 

[rudystyle]

Any reason for the huge upsurge today?

[MAO-SAN]

Any reason for the huge upsurge today?

It's a crypto, if u have enogh money to sell free stuff for 100k, just do it (c)

[tekmobile]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KlaGfB7_6JjSsIO9UgP4VqQTW-uzQIiZGmzNp5hS6nE/pubhtml?gid=0&single=true

Breakdown of mined blocks to addresses

[coin-investor]

But currently..

Bitcoin Cash                         vs  old 1mb Bitcoin
Transaction times hours              minutes

You must have a bad memory , a few months ago , old 1 mb bitcoin was taking days to complete transactions due to its inability to handle the transactions load.
research the forum with all of the complaints people made, it is not hard to find.

Since it will be more profitable to mine Cash instead of old 1mb, enough miners will switch that there should be no time difference within 2 weeks or so.
Then old 1mb bitcoin problems will become even more apparent, as transaction stalling increases.
Which you can watch here: https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

Update: Bitcoin Ca$h just broke thru the $800 wall.

Like I said $8000 per coin within a year. Your Choice if you profit or fail.

╥Aztek

Amazing I don't know how high it will go or will it go down again, or just a big pump that will get dump is it possible to get into the $1000 barrier, this alt coin is making huge progress in the last two weeks so sorry for those who dump earlier.

[ChainSmoker]

Lol ever heard about Lightening network you paid shill?I came to accept that from trolls like you that FUD around bitcoin is never going to end  

Not only do I know about lightening network, I read its whitepaper.

Which if you had read it you would have noticed this vulnerability :

If the Onchain transactions are unable to keep up with demand ,
it opens up a vulnerability where your LN Time Locked Bitcoins can be stolen from you.
All they have to do is spam the onchain network until the LN timelocks expire and they can remove your bitcoins before you can.

But since you did not read the actual white paper, you did not know that,
now you do, so act according.


╥Aztek

Nice one.I bet lot of people here on bitcointalk.org have read about it not just you.if there was actually any vulnerability they wouldn't be supporting LN but there isn't.You can spread as much FUD as you want.probably roger holding your check this week? lol There were many bitcoin haters before you and more will be in future and bitcoin will keep succeeding as it is.Bigger blocks are a curse to bitcoin and will cause centralization in future.

[MAO-SAN]

Nice one.I bet lot of people here on [Suspicious link removed] there was actually any vulnerability they wouldn't be supporting LN but there isn't.You can spread as much FUD as you want.probably roger holding your check this week? lol There were many bitcoin haters before you and more will be in future and bitcoin will keep succeeding as it is.Bigger blocks are a curse to bitcoin and will cause centralization in future.

it is already fully centralized in mother china )) nobody cares of tech rly, just pump&dump with profit cash out, repeat until digital sht is dead, move 2 another shtcoin
don't take this circus 2 serious, bro )

[tekmobile]

Nice one.I bet lot of people here on [Suspicious link removed] there was actually any vulnerability they wouldn't be supporting LN but there isn't.You can spread as much FUD as you want.probably roger holding your check this week? lol There were many bitcoin haters before you and more will be in future and bitcoin will keep succeeding as it is.Bigger blocks are a curse to bitcoin and will cause centralization in future.

it is already fully centralized in mother china )) nobody cares of tech rly, just pump&dump with profit cash out, repeat until digital sht is dead, move 2 another shtcoin
don't take this circus 2 serious, bro )

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[jtalk]

We have seen in past many coins which became more valuable than Bitcoin and now many people don't remember even their names anymore. BCash is best example of manipulation which will see tragic end having similar fate not different than previous coins. I sold out all and just enjoying the extreme changes in value of this coin since day first.

[johnsmithx]

Bigger blocks are a curse to bitcoin and will cause centralization in future.

Nice demagoguery.

[ChainSmoker]

We have seen in past many coins which became more valuable than Bitcoin and now many people don't remember even their names anymore. BCash is best example of manipulation which will see tragic end having similar fate not different than previous coins. I sold out all and just enjoying the extreme changes in value of this coin since day first.

Bitcoin Cash will be at the top of CoinMarket Cap within the year over old bitcoin.

What other coin has ever done that?

None that I am aware of.


╥Aztek

I don't know on which shit you are high on but please do the honours and roll your magic ball and go make a profit if you are so sure as shit instead of spreading FUD.Bcash ain't a superior technology then bitcoin.It's a pump and dump shitass coin made out of politics and you are a fool to believe in it.

[tekmobile]

According to http://fork.lol/pow/hashrate

BTC hashrate is increasing and BCH is decreasing

We have also seen a new miner address 17SMJT44JbqtGMD9g1M6cZsmqD5b6Y9AbY gobbling up blocks and the old dominant miner 1Mn8mkxYm6GGcdUH5Ts3XJN4Ujz4CJerbW has slowed right down

[Mrpumperitis]

https://cash.coin.dance/blocks
There have been 1110 blocks mined since the hard fork.
(1576 blocks behind the original chain)

The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 13% of the original chain's difficulty.

The original chain has grown 2.30GB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.

It is currently 77% more profitable to mine on the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.