[ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees

[MartinGandhiKennedy]

I think I found BlackWidow  

well technically you can't prove something isn't real. it's like saying we have proven a fact that aliens don't exist. they actually could be out there, we just don't know. you have stated an opinion/educated guess, not a fact

So you're saying Bitcoin could be a religion and not a technology?  

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On that note:

Check this out! Now this is compelling. Comparing Mempool graphs of Bitcoin Core vs Bitcoin Cash in comparison to the years of 2009-2016 (during Bitcoin's prime).

[x2666]

THAT IS CORRECT SIR, BUY WHEN IT HITS $50

THATS ALL IVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU...

My question to you is, if BCH is $50, what do you think BTC will be worth at that point?

[MartinGandhiKennedy]

THAT IS CORRECT SIR, BUY WHEN IT HITS $50

THATS ALL IVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU...

My question to you is, if BCH is $50, what do you think BTC will be worth at that point?

Exactly. Bitcoin Cash has been proportional and growing it's ratio value.
For BCH to be $50, BTC then would have to be approx. $400.

[1x12ty]

2 days ago we have a bad news from china , china Ban ICOs
i lost 30% invest to bch
but  i think it will growing up soon..

[estenity]

a more simple explanation :
newcomers overcome in number the old btc holders, whose accounts are often dormant.

ww.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-04/alert-explosive-ico-market-deserves-closer-look-–-13-billion-hiding-blockchain

they may prefer BCC for investing, due to lower price.

[tomkat]

Mathematical Proof That the Lightning Network Cannot Be a Decentralized Bitcoin Scaling Solution
https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/mathematical-proof-that-the-lightning-network-cannot-be-a-decentralized-bitcoin-scaling-solution-1b8147650800

The Illusion of Scale in Segregated Witness
https://nchain.com/en/blog/illusion-scale-segregated-witness/

Risk of SegWit – Mining Cartels
https://nchain.com/en/blog/risks-of-segregated-witness-mining-cartels/

8 times Core told people Segwit is a Blocksize Increase
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6wml7g/8_times_core_told_people_segwit_is_a_blocksize/

Continued Discussion on why Lightning Network Cannot Scale
https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/continued-discussion-on-why-lightning-network-cannot-scale-883c17b2ef5b

Dr. Peter Rizun - SegWit Coins are not Bitcoins - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoFb3mcxluY

Amaury Sechet - Back to the Basics - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By0w43NQdiY&list=PLW5YLgBF2qh_1NKB3hW24cg26KSTCsTjY&index=16

Nikita Zhavoronkov - *Why* Bitcoin needs a Scaling Solution - Arnhem 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIM8mQfs1Xk&list=PLW5YLgBF2qh_1NKB3hW24cg26KSTCsTjY&index=3

Bitcoin is Being Hot-Wired for Settlement
https://medium.com/@jgarzik/bitcoin-is-being-hot-wired-for-settlement-a5beb1df223a

 

Another very old trick folks

Technobabble

Look up its defination.

You think this guy put all this together in the last 5 min?

I understand it.

But most of you see it as:

Well put together
Looks very professional

And admit it, MOST not all, have no idea what it means

Im going to bed now, well continue tomm

The floor is yours WHALES

DONT BE SUPRISED IT THEY PUSH IT BACK UP TO 500 SOON, THEN IT WILL FALL AND FALL, AND YOU WILL HAVE HOPE IT WILL GO BACK UP AGAIN, AND YOU WILL BE LEFT HOLDING A WORTHLESS BAG

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF

AND THIS IS TEXTBOOK, ONE FOR THE AGES

And then on the thread tomm, you will hear inexperienced Bitcoin Cash Coin bagholders repeating these talking points, having no idea what they really mean.

Just like the mass media fake news

Wake up people, but I feel bad, this one is so slick many of you will lose your shirt

Okay.. I will summarize:

The only system of economics that has proven to sustain itself without a central authority is the free market. But the free market is messy; while the world as a whole wins overall with increased wealth, new technologies, and greater standards of living, some participants in the system do far better than others.
The ideology of Core is the same tired argument that has called for intervention in this "messy" system to make it better and more fair. Invariably those trying to control the system end up making it worse, and everyone using it poorer.
Those who advocate for a central authority to manage economies (or Bitcoin) are under the mistaken impression that those who support the system by profiting from it (mining coins) are doing so out of pure greed. "Greedy capitalists" is a common refrain among those who fail to understand free markets, why people actually participate in them, and how we all benefit from them.
People who understand the libertarian ideals of Satoshi's original vision know that miners are providing a service to the network in exchange for payment. The miners are trading their precious electricity and depreciation on the mining tools they've invested in, for something they want more: coins. Meanwhile the network is trading their precious coins for something they want more: network stability. There is nothing greedy about this exchange! Both parties want what the other has more than what they themselves have and both parties end up marginally RICHER afterwards: The network profits from increased usability, while the miners profit directly in coins.
However, if you believe miners are in this only because you believe they're "greedy" then the reasoning behind Core's behaviour becomes obvious. Their vision of Bitcoin is the new socialist utopia, where miners use their infrastructure to support the network out of a sense of duty to the network rather than profiting monetarily. They cannot comprehend that mutual benefit is required for all parties to continue participating in the network, and the foundation of mutual benefit is self-interest. Contributing to the network out of sense of duty is in fact a form of slavery.

"That mining has profits at all is a bug." - Luke-jr 

Yeah, quotes from Luke make my days - let's treat him as a curiosity rather than reference point though.
It's generally getting clear Bitcoin Core is now so far from the original that it just can't be considered Bitcoin anymore.
Obviously it carries the name Bitcoin, but its properties are getting very different from "peer-to-peer electronic cash system".

[classicsucks]

On that note:

Check this out! Now this is compelling. Comparing Mempool graphs of Bitcoin Core vs Bitcoin Cash in comparison to the years of 2009-2016 (during Bitcoin's prime).

BINGO. Image inline.

You've got some guys on this thread that are stupid, they think a full mempool is GOOD. The claim is that "nobody is using Bitcoin Cash because the mempool is empty" LOL.

[MartinGandhiKennedy]

On that note:

Check this out! Now this is compelling. Comparing Mempool graphs of Bitcoin Core vs Bitcoin Cash in comparison to the years of 2009-2016 (during Bitcoin's prime).

BINGO. Image inline.

You've got some guys on this thread that are stupid, they think a full mempool is GOOD. The claim is that "nobody is using Bitcoin Cash because the mempool is empty" LOL.

Rock on! Thank you 

[tekmobile]

On that note:

Check this out! Now this is compelling. Comparing Mempool graphs of Bitcoin Core vs Bitcoin Cash in comparison to the years of 2009-2016 (during Bitcoin's prime).

BINGO. Image inline.

You've got some guys on this thread that are stupid, they think a full mempool is GOOD. The claim is that "nobody is using Bitcoin Cash because the mempool is empty" LOL.

Rock on! Thank you  

Not forgetting that this very second the bitcoin network is processing 800% more transactions a second this is typically 1000% more a second and even higher during peak times

Also conveniently all graphs had the timescales cut off because they are incorrect and fraudulent but nice try this project only launched this year (around April) and had no data collected from the bitcoin nodes until around july 2017

[Synaesthesia]

On that note:

Check this out! Now this is compelling. Comparing Mempool graphs of Bitcoin Core vs Bitcoin Cash in comparison to the years of 2009-2016 (during Bitcoin's prime).

BINGO. Image inline.

You've got some guys on this thread that are stupid, they think a full mempool is GOOD. The claim is that "nobody is using Bitcoin Cash because the mempool is empty" LOL.

is mine bitcoin cash now profit than bitcoin?

[Noruka]

The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.

[MartinGandhiKennedy]

The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.

Yeah me too, I like to go on this forum just to re-affirm to myself that I hope I am right too

[Rinaze]

The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.

I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.

[2012]

The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.

I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.

This is valid point I think people are lazy to read that which mentioned on official website this is not BTC it's only BCH and it will continue with this. I don't think this realistic approach one day BTC will get replaced by this altcoin and that is big mistake why people buy this coin.

[wasif11]

I'm not sure if they're the best, but they're the ones I got memorized:
If you mean the distribution between BTC and BCH: http://fork.lol/pow/hashrate
But if you mean the distribution of miners in BCH: https://cash.coin.dance/blocks#thisweek (this one sometimes has cache issues for me;
 if you get a dark background or some other glitchy rendering of the page, try hitting Ctrl-F5 to reload ignoring the cache)

[Lauda]

Small reminder again:

Roger Ver lies more often than he tells the truth. This is not an attack, just an objective observation of the facts.
"Mt. Gox is totally fine."... shortly thereafter Mt. Gox implodes ... "I am here to 'apologize'. Even though everything I said when I told you 'Mt. Gox is fine' was true, I am sorry that some of you lost money when it collapsed. Buy ether."
"I am banned from posting in /r/Bitcoin" ... accidentally posts to /r/Bitcoin ... "Oops. Now I'll pretend like I never claimed to be banned from /r/Bitcoin, and ignore anyone who asks me about that claim."
"I've dumped a few hundred BTC for BCC"... 2 weeks later: "I haven't sold a single Bitcoin for Bitcoin Cash up until yesterday"
He lies about the subreddit he controls. He regularly lies about his holdings. He lied and scammed his way into the bitcoin.com domain, which he uses to push out FUD about Bitcoin and its developers. He lies on agreements he signs (e.g. "the bitcoin.com pool will mine with NYA/btc1/2x code... whoops just kidding, we're mining bcash instead"). He even had the audacity to lie about what happened in court, when there is a public transcript available which disproves everything he said.
There are more examples of blatant deception that I don't have the time or patience to dig up right now. Make no mistake: the man is, unfortunately, a sociopath.

Source with full links here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6xpu8j/roger_ver_lies/

The amount of shills defending this altcoin, which is arguably worse than a good amount of the shitcoins out there, is astronomical. How much exactly are you paying people for so much shilling mr. Ver?

[MartinGandhiKennedy]

If BCH was insignificant, then it would be treated as such. But with how many people come in here to "put in their word", it makes it a compelling significance.

To see the forums for any coin that is truly dead or dying, it is a ghost town. No one cares.

But here, people put it on top of a gigantic pedastal the more they add to it with what they believe will "help" people to realize that it is "insignificant".

[Lauda]

If BCH was insignificant, then it would be treated as such. But with how many people come in here to "put in their word", it makes it a compelling significance.

That is absolute bullshit, otherwise any random token with a shit ton of paid baboons, having hundreds of pages would have "compelling significance". Either you're spamming or you're drinking kool-aid. Pick the lesser evil.

[MartinGandhiKennedy]

If BCH was insignificant, then it would be treated as such. But with how many people come in here to "put in their word", it makes it a compelling significance.

That is absolute bullshit, otherwise any random token with a shit ton of paid baboons, having hundreds of pages would have "compelling significance". Either you're spamming or you're drinking kool-aid. Pick the lesser evil.

Lauda, your actions show your character, thus showing your motive.

A dead coin is a dead coin. But you make it seem alive.

[Lauda]

Lauda, your actions show your character, thus showing your motive.

And your statements show your intellect/knowledge or lack thereof. Stop writing nonsense just to rank up the account, alright?

A dead coin is a dead coin. But you make it seem alive.

BCH is a failed altcoin with: 1) Extreme mining centralization. 2) No proven developers. 3) Malicious individuals behind it. Even if no real user touched this with a fork in years, Ver & co have enough money to lose mining and spamming transactions to make it seem alive. Stop drinking the kool-aid and supporting scams.