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January 07, 2018, 12:31:18 AM |
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That is very interesting. I really don't know what to think about this. Investing in this as a hedge ? I am not optimistic about bitcoin futures as they are nothing more than derivatives and no money actually gets invested into bitcoin. Warren Buffet has called derivatives "weapons of mass destruction" Thank you for doing the research and pointing this out to me
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January 07, 2018, 08:30:06 AM Last edit: January 07, 2018, 09:03:05 AM by hv_ |
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All I can see on this thread is several hundred pages made up mainly of name calling. Why aren't you people coming up with wonderful innovations and sponsoring NASCAR?
Thx for input, it is gentleman. Given the history and the color of this forum most creative power moved over to reddit, twitter and other platforms. Its not even possible to keep it clean from trollish cross coin selling (see dump icebergs) and childish trash posts. FYI https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/900682/Bitcoin-rise-ripple-Ethereum-Cash-big-bang
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classicsucks
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January 07, 2018, 10:36:49 AM |
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When a publication is owned by Calvin Ayre or Roger Ver then it's automatically void.
It's like apple telling everybody why the iOS is superior to Android Sounds like black and white thinking... ..aaand that's a poor analogy - which mobile OS is superior is mostly an opinion. Unless of course you care to tally up the tech specs of each and try to make an objective decision. First you need to be clear about your priorities however (is cost more important than usability etc). OK, Let's try it with cryptos, I will go first: MY top Priorities (your can be different, but be honest please): 1. I can use it, merchants accept it and I can trade it on exchanges or with private parties 2. It's secure 3. It's safe from theft and govt meddling/inflation 4. Low fees So far, BTC only fits 2 and 3 - 1 and 4 are gone due to Kore's retardedness/compromise BCH fits all 4. Your turn. That has nothing to do with the quote You quote a post of me saying a BCH supporters publication is biased to the one side the same as if you asked apple which os is the best iOS or android no matter what the technicalities are apple will always say apple is better. As for the what you try to derail the content with then BTC fills 1, 2, & 3 you like to post your acceptbitcoin.cash site and if you look over it then you would see BTC is accepted at way more places than BCH yes the fees are higher big deal once the rest of the scaling solutions have rolled out then that will ease the mempool and blockstream are not against a block increase its just not needed yet once schnorr signatures etc are implemented BTC will be able to store more transactions in the current block as BCH can in a 8MB block and if a increase is needed after all this it will be rolled out in a future release Other busy coins are getting higher fees now too ETH is around $2.50 now and but its got issues but its not block space issue the network infrastructure cannot process the transactions fast enough also with the rise of ripple recently the transaction fee has gone up 3000% even BCH now has a average tx fee of about $0.40 yea its not much but a far cry from under $0.01 that it was a couple of month ago No no no teck, I bolded the relevant text. You replied to a comment about no blocksize increase saying it's invalid "becuz Calvin Ayre and Roger Ver sez". Now it's your turn. What are your priorities and how does BTC fulfill them better than BCH? Should be easy for you, considering how vehement you are in your convictions? So if store of value is first priority for you, that's fine... but let's at least get you on the record with facts rather than name-calling and blustering...
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Niya
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January 07, 2018, 03:04:16 PM |
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Is it safe to use Electron Cash now that Electrum for BTC is compromised?
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January 07, 2018, 03:19:46 PM |
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Is it safe to use Electron Cash now that Electrum for BTC is compromised?
Did they update with new patch already? If not, I wouldn't use and also move your coins immediately to another place. Now that the Electrum's vulnerability is known, storing coins in an unpatched Electrum fork is not advisable. Edit: Looks like they came up with patch. Here is link to download. https://electroncash.org/#download After downloading, verifying and installing, create a new wallet immediately and move your coins to addresses in the new wallet from the old wallet, immediately.
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January 07, 2018, 04:48:00 PM |
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Is it safe to use Electron Cash now that Electrum for BTC is compromised?
Did they update with new patch already? If not, I wouldn't use and also move your coins immediately to another place. Now that the Electrum's vulnerability is known, storing coins in an unpatched Electrum fork is not advisable. Edit: Looks like they came up with patch. Here is link to download. https://electroncash.org/#download After downloading, verifying and installing, create a new wallet immediately and move your coins to addresses in the new wallet from the old wallet, immediately. Exactly. Dont connect old electrum to internet Its a good post for noobs, thanks to share
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THE INGENIOUS GENTLEMAN DON QUIXOTE OF LA MANCHA
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January 07, 2018, 04:52:01 PM |
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Is it safe to use Electron Cash now that Electrum for BTC is compromised?
Did they update with new patch already? If not, I wouldn't use and also move your coins immediately to another place. Now that the Electrum's vulnerability is known, storing coins in an unpatched Electrum fork is not advisable. Edit: Looks like they came up with patch. Here is link to download. https://electroncash.org/#download After downloading, verifying and installing, create a new wallet immediately and move your coins to addresses in the new wallet from the old wallet, immediately. That's very important! Devs should spread the work about vulnerability and ask users to update ASAP (if there is updated fork version ofc)!
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January 07, 2018, 04:53:29 PM |
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Is Bitcoin Private going to be given out to Bitcoin holders or Bitcoin Cash holders?
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January 07, 2018, 07:13:42 PM |
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After address new conversion update do we need new client or will toggle address in current client suffice?TIA
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tekmobile
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January 07, 2018, 07:26:23 PM |
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Is Bitcoin Private going to be given out to Bitcoin holders or Bitcoin Cash holders?
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January 07, 2018, 09:19:23 PM |
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BCH still has only a fraction of the transaction volume of Bitcoin.
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Red_Sanford
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January 07, 2018, 09:49:02 PM |
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BCH still has only a fraction of the transaction volume of Bitcoin. It will take time just like anything else that is new. I can vouch for myself that if I need to send in extra funds to shore up a margin position I have sent Bitcoin Cash instead of the $20 transfer fee for Bitcoin.
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January 07, 2018, 10:51:05 PM |
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When a publication is owned by Calvin Ayre or Roger Ver then it's automatically void.
It's like apple telling everybody why the iOS is superior to Android Sounds like black and white thinking... ..aaand that's a poor analogy - which mobile OS is superior is mostly an opinion. Unless of course you care to tally up the tech specs of each and try to make an objective decision. First you need to be clear about your priorities however (is cost more important than usability etc). OK, Let's try it with cryptos, I will go first: MY top Priorities (your can be different, but be honest please): 1. I can use it, merchants accept it and I can trade it on exchanges or with private parties 2. It's secure 3. It's safe from theft and govt meddling/inflation 4. Low fees So far, BTC only fits 2 and 3 - 1 and 4 are gone due to Kore's retardedness/compromise BCH fits all 4. Your turn. That has nothing to do with the quote You quote a post of me saying a BCH supporters publication is biased to the one side the same as if you asked apple which os is the best iOS or android no matter what the technicalities are apple will always say apple is better. As for the what you try to derail the content with then BTC fills 1, 2, & 3 you like to post your acceptbitcoin.cash site and if you look over it then you would see BTC is accepted at way more places than BCH yes the fees are higher big deal once the rest of the scaling solutions have rolled out then that will ease the mempool and blockstream are not against a block increase its just not needed yet once schnorr signatures etc are implemented BTC will be able to store more transactions in the current block as BCH can in a 8MB block and if a increase is needed after all this it will be rolled out in a future release Other busy coins are getting higher fees now too ETH is around $2.50 now and but its got issues but its not block space issue the network infrastructure cannot process the transactions fast enough also with the rise of ripple recently the transaction fee has gone up 3000% even BCH now has a average tx fee of about $0.40 yea its not much but a far cry from under $0.01 that it was a couple of month ago No no no teck, I bolded the relevant text. You replied to a comment about no blocksize increase saying it's invalid "becuz Calvin Ayre and Roger Ver sez". Now it's your turn. What are your priorities and how does BTC fulfill them better than BCH? Should be easy for you, considering how vehement you are in your convictions? So if store of value is first priority for you, that's fine... but let's at least get you on the record with facts rather than name-calling and blustering... probably the last you'll heard from him ^^
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January 07, 2018, 11:47:37 PM |
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When a publication is owned by Calvin Ayre or Roger Ver then it's automatically void.
It's like apple telling everybody why the iOS is superior to Android Sounds like black and white thinking... ..aaand that's a poor analogy - which mobile OS is superior is mostly an opinion. Unless of course you care to tally up the tech specs of each and try to make an objective decision. First you need to be clear about your priorities however (is cost more important than usability etc). OK, Let's try it with cryptos, I will go first: MY top Priorities (your can be different, but be honest please): 1. I can use it, merchants accept it and I can trade it on exchanges or with private parties 2. It's secure 3. It's safe from theft and govt meddling/inflation 4. Low fees So far, BTC only fits 2 and 3 - 1 and 4 are gone due to Kore's retardedness/compromise BCH fits all 4. Your turn. That has nothing to do with the quote You quote a post of me saying a BCH supporters publication is biased to the one side the same as if you asked apple which os is the best iOS or android no matter what the technicalities are apple will always say apple is better. As for the what you try to derail the content with then BTC fills 1, 2, & 3 you like to post your acceptbitcoin.cash site and if you look over it then you would see BTC is accepted at way more places than BCH yes the fees are higher big deal once the rest of the scaling solutions have rolled out then that will ease the mempool and blockstream are not against a block increase its just not needed yet once schnorr signatures etc are implemented BTC will be able to store more transactions in the current block as BCH can in a 8MB block and if a increase is needed after all this it will be rolled out in a future release Other busy coins are getting higher fees now too ETH is around $2.50 now and but its got issues but its not block space issue the network infrastructure cannot process the transactions fast enough also with the rise of ripple recently the transaction fee has gone up 3000% even BCH now has a average tx fee of about $0.40 yea its not much but a far cry from under $0.01 that it was a couple of month ago No no no teck, I bolded the relevant text. You replied to a comment about no blocksize increase saying it's invalid "becuz Calvin Ayre and Roger Ver sez". Now it's your turn. What are your priorities and how does BTC fulfill them better than BCH? Should be easy for you, considering how vehement you are in your convictions? So if store of value is first priority for you, that's fine... but let's at least get you on the record with facts rather than name-calling and blustering... No it was about the article that what you highlighted is bold was just a quote from it which is going to be biased due to the publication owner Like ive said many many times BTC is prioritising chain optimisation this will allow roughly the same amount of transactions to fit in the current block space that BCH can fit in a 8MB block after this is done then yes a block increase will follow if it's needed but right now after all optimisations there is adequate capacity just be patient it's not a race to the finish 99% of BCH code was created by BTC devs and most likely futurecode will be too don't try and cut off the hand that feeds you
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Bitbobb
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January 08, 2018, 12:19:49 AM |
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When a publication is owned by Calvin Ayre or Roger Ver then it's automatically void.
It's like apple telling everybody why the iOS is superior to Android Sounds like black and white thinking... ..aaand that's a poor analogy - which mobile OS is superior is mostly an opinion. Unless of course you care to tally up the tech specs of each and try to make an objective decision. First you need to be clear about your priorities however (is cost more important than usability etc). OK, Let's try it with cryptos, I will go first: MY top Priorities (your can be different, but be honest please): 1. I can use it, merchants accept it and I can trade it on exchanges or with private parties 2. It's secure 3. It's safe from theft and govt meddling/inflation 4. Low fees So far, BTC only fits 2 and 3 - 1 and 4 are gone due to Kore's retardedness/compromise BCH fits all 4. Your turn. That has nothing to do with the quote You quote a post of me saying a BCH supporters publication is biased to the one side the same as if you asked apple which os is the best iOS or android no matter what the technicalities are apple will always say apple is better. As for the what you try to derail the content with then BTC fills 1, 2, & 3 you like to post your acceptbitcoin.cash site and if you look over it then you would see BTC is accepted at way more places than BCH yes the fees are higher big deal once the rest of the scaling solutions have rolled out then that will ease the mempool and blockstream are not against a block increase its just not needed yet once schnorr signatures etc are implemented BTC will be able to store more transactions in the current block as BCH can in a 8MB block and if a increase is needed after all this it will be rolled out in a future release Other busy coins are getting higher fees now too ETH is around $2.50 now and but its got issues but its not block space issue the network infrastructure cannot process the transactions fast enough also with the rise of ripple recently the transaction fee has gone up 3000% even BCH now has a average tx fee of about $0.40 yea its not much but a far cry from under $0.01 that it was a couple of month ago No no no teck, I bolded the relevant text. You replied to a comment about no blocksize increase saying it's invalid "becuz Calvin Ayre and Roger Ver sez". Now it's your turn. What are your priorities and how does BTC fulfill them better than BCH? Should be easy for you, considering how vehement you are in your convictions? So if store of value is first priority for you, that's fine... but let's at least get you on the record with facts rather than name-calling and blustering... No it was about the article that what you highlighted is bold was just a quote from it which is going to be biased due to the publication owner Like ive said many many times BTC is prioritising chain optimisation this will allow roughly the same amount of transactions to fit in the current block space that BCH can fit in a 8MB block after this is done then yes a block increase will follow if it's needed but right now after all optimisations there is adequate capacity just be patient it's not a race to the finish 99% of BCH code was created by BTC devs and most likely futurecode will be too don't try and cut off the hand that feeds you Ownership of some thing does not equate a bias that precludes the speaker from making statements that are also accurate. A speaker can make the full disclosure that they own some items in the discussion but it is not grounds for categorical dismissal of the statement by any means whatsoever LOL. And if I take away the key to your house and require a third party &/ or lower security software to make keys and permissions so you can enter your house is not optimization by most people's definition. You might just get run out of town in some parts if you "optimize" like that in the light of day. And bch is bitcoin so your last comment is nonsense. btc has gone the way of the altcoin and now competes with testnets for its' former self
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January 08, 2018, 04:37:34 AM |
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Anyone else thinking BitcoinCash will reach 2,000 this weekend? I have a feeling we are in for another big pump just like last weekend. People are getting fed up with regular bitcoin, its not functional as a currency at best its crypto "gold". You can actually send gold through the mail for about the same price and speed as bitcoin now.
NOT REALLY wheras the group that pumped BCH to epic levels are now buying BTX :-D lmao Buying BTX lol? Can I have some of what you are smoking? You do realize last weekends pump involved volume of about 5 BILLION + dollars per day and Cash is still at 3 billion in the last 24 hours. Your BTX is at 10 MILLION volume LOL. I think you are a more than a little confused. There's a new BTX that wants to be B2X but its forked from Bitcoin Gold https://bitcoin2m.org/ https://github.com/bitcoin2m/BitcoinXCan this get any more convoluted? Independent Day of Bitcoin 2M+Segwit Today, Nov 16th 2017 is the day of Bitcoin 2X Independent Day. it is hard time for b2x investors .no any warning. All the NYA signers betrayed all the B2X investors . B2x investors lost 90% fortune in mins. Now new B2X team build up. ASIC MINER is not trust-able .in order to protect the 2M+SW dream, to protect the b2x investors. We will: 1, change mining algo to gpu mining 2, 2M+SW 3, add two way replay attack protection 4, no pre-mine 5,fork height: 494784. www.bitcoin2m.orgTwitter: @bitcoin2m Github: https://github.com/bitcoin2m/bitcoin2xhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2377598.0Is this actually being traded somewhere? And its just futures trading right now?
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January 08, 2018, 05:06:21 AM |
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Coinbase said mid january and still nothing for now ... It seems everyone forgot about this coin
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hv_
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January 08, 2018, 08:47:42 AM |
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Carpe diem - understand the White Paper and mine honest. Fix real world issues: Check out b-vote.com The simple way is the genius way - Satoshi's Rules: humana veris _
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moonriver
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January 08, 2018, 11:33:46 AM |
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Coinbase said mid january and still nothing for now ... It seems everyone forgot about this coin
Nobody has forgotten about this one. It had a huge growth just 24 hours ago.
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