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September 28, 2013, 07:24:38 AM
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New logo is way too generic and trendy, and now practically replicated and to be used with another altcoin. No problem? If so, you are idiot.
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it just looks like yet another bullshit coin logo. I like the Yak because it is different and etablished since a while. I can understand people liking the hexagonal logos, because they are also different than standard junk logos and you can recognise it quickly. But think about he new logo: When someone uses this logo in a shop that accepts lots of different coins, lots of s people will miss the YACoin Logo because it looks like every other coin. People will end up paying with bitcon, litecoin or whatever just because they didnt see that also YACoin is accepted. IMHO it is just dumb and doing no good to YACoin when this logo is used (especially if main pages like Yacoin.org and Yacointalk.com stick to the old logo).

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September 28, 2013, 10:32:53 AM
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So speeding up the PoS minting and SHOWING via the CPU usage it's actually doing something would be good IMO..
No! That's totally against the whole point of PoS minting.

Besides, it wouldn't change anything in the long run, because an increase in PoS computing power would eventually lead to a higher PoS difficulty.
It wouldn't affect PoS diff at all when averaged over a few blocks.

Think globally. A single client using lots of hashpower to generate PoS blocks with only a few coins in the wallet won't change the difficulty much.
But if you change the official client to speed up PoS minting, then everybody will use the higher hashrate, and then difficulty will rise.
You can mint as much PoS blocks as you have PoS-eligible inputs - and that takes time. A lot of time. (Also, I've got a feeling that PoS diff is static.)

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September 28, 2013, 01:02:47 PM
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Back to YACoin logo debate. The reason ...
At first it was entertaining, but now it's just anoying.
What is annoying is unknowns deciding on a logo of a coin which I supported from day 1 and invested shitload of money and time into, and it is extra annoying that opinion of person who is professional designer ...

I can understand your frustration with the new logo, but there will be always someone frustrated with a decision made. Arguing about the method the vote was conducted is fine, but results must be out of debate or we won't be able to make decisions at all.
You wouldn't accept a new vote when your logo would have won, but the majority that botherd to vote sould have to accept it? What if you won't win the next vote, how often should we have to vote on this? Untill you win?

For the code stuff the public opinion is that Joe should handle it, on the logo it clearly isn't than you should! It was him btw who decided that we vote on the logo. You don't accept Joe`s decision to vote and the decision of everyone voted for, it seems the only thing you accept is what you want yourself. Grow up.





I hope a lot of people see now why my previous points on finding a good way to vote are important. Only transparent votingresults can end a discusion like this and let us move on. Voting on bitcointalk is a very bad way to vote, so please support my efforts to get to a better voting mechanism:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300152.0

All you have to do is sign a message and you even get some free coins for your efforts. The transactions will be conservated into the blockchain and once we have a list of adresses/names we can find a good way to make votes count. I'd go for send a coin to a votingadress and a script that filters out double votes, but that hasen't be decidet yet. It could be 1vote/acc or valuing people different,etc ... It doesn't matter unless it's previously agreed on and results are final.

Maby we even revote on the damm logo again, but only if we get enough people to register their adress.

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September 28, 2013, 01:04:06 PM
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Back to YACoin logo debate. The reason ...
At first it was entertaining, but now it's just anoying.
What is annoying is unknowns deciding on a logo of a coin which I supported from day 1 and invested shitload of money and time into, and it is extra annoying that opinion of person who is professional designer ...
I can understand your frustration with the new logo, but there will be always someone frustrated with a decision made. Arguing about the method the vote was conducted is fine, but results must be out of debate or we won't be able to make decisions at all.
You wouldn't accept a new vote when your logo would have won, but the majority that botherd to vote sould have to accept it? What if you won't win the next vote, how often should we have to vote on this? Untill you win?

For the code stuff the public opinion is that Joe should handle it, on the logo it clearly isn't than you should! It was him btw who decided that we vote on the logo. You don't accept Joe`s decision to vote and the decision of everyone voted for, it seems the only thing you accept is what you want yourself. Grow up.


it just looks like yet another bullshit coin logo.
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I hope a lot of people see now why my previous points on finding a good way to vote are important. Only transparent votingresults can end a discusion like this and let us move on. Voting on bitcointalk is a very bad way to vote, so please support my efforts to get to a better voting mechanism:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300152.0

All you have to do is sign a message and you even get some free coins for your efforts. The transactions will be conservated into the blockchain and once we have a list of adresses/names we can find a good way to make votes count. I'd go for send a coin to a votingadress and a script that filters out double votes, but that hasen't be decidet yet. It could be 1vote/acc or valuing people different,etc ... It doesn't matter unless it's previously agreed on and results are final.

Maby we even revote on the damm logo with this, but only if we get enough people to register their adress.

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September 28, 2013, 02:00:58 PM
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New logo is way too generic and trendy, and now practically replicated and to be used with another altcoin

I respect your opinion, so..... come up with something better?

No offense to whoever created the yak_giving_birth logo, but to me it looks like it was done by an eight year old.. The new logo might be a similar layout to others, but if was done by a professional and looks as much. Also, the yak logo never won a vote, it was just what those who run yacoin.org decided they like the best.

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September 28, 2013, 11:55:48 PM
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Still arguing about the logo? I personally have no interest at all in these arguments.

My gut feeling is as far as issues with somewhat diverse opinions go, the logo and expanded name could be the two most important decisions that would ever be made for YACoin post launch. It's partly because I think how things look and sound are important, and also partly because I suspect more important decisions will never be made.

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September 29, 2013, 04:44:43 PM
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If the only thing you don't like about the new logo is the shape, then submit a new one? As long as it's the same colours and logo as the winner of the vote, then I will consider it.
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September 29, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
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Only 1 day (and 3.5 hours) left to next Nfactor change!
Fasten your seatbelts, it's gonna be yet another crazy hashrate ride off a cliff.

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September 29, 2013, 06:52:05 PM
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If the only thing you don't like about the new logo is the shape, then submit a new one? As long as it's the same colours and logo as the winner of the vote, then I will consider it.

There is more elegant solution. I'll remove all my YACoin-related posts and myself from this whole YACoin debate and community. Bye!

Since you're obviously one of the many sheep who will complain about things they don't like, yet do nothing about it except complain, then removing yourself from this and/or any other community that you're "part" of, works for me  Cool
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September 29, 2013, 06:53:57 PM
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Only 1 day (and 3.5 hours) left to next Nfactor change!
Fasten your seatbelts, it's gonna be yet another crazy hashrate ride off a cliff.

Back on topic, this will definitely be interesting!
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September 29, 2013, 07:00:29 PM
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Anyone have thoughts on the next NfFactor change coming up tomorrow?  Someone must have a good idea on the effect on GPU and CPU mining... you can simulate it right?

Another point... I believe the lifeblood of yacoin's future success is instilled in those computer geniuses keeping the software upgrade and updated.  Joe and Sairon and anyone else contributing, many thanks for what you do.  I think your efforts also benefit the entire cryptocurrency community and bring us steps closer to realizing a true free market the world has never seen... the free market of money!  

Anyone who STUBBORNLY believes that the symbol of such an endeavor of monumental significance should/could be based on a cartoon-ish representation of an already funny-looking animal deserves to be the loser he already is and will never reach personal success with such flawed perspective... just saying.

It is great to see YaCoin and the community evolve and advance into better things!

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September 29, 2013, 07:32:35 PM
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There is more elegant solution. I'll remove all my YACoin-related posts and myself from this whole YACoin debate and community. Bye!
You really want to make somthing trivial as a logo decision in a do it my way or without me?! Take a few days off and think again.

I agree with most of your argument on the logo debate and liked your imput, but if you can't accept the community to make a different decision you have a problem (not the community). I never saw the logo as viral to YAC's survival, but having a good commuity that can discuss, vote, stick to the results and move on is. That's far more important than having a good logo or any decision itself.

The choosen logo isn't perfect, but it isn't soo terrible either. I also would like to have the other choosen, but noone is so important to rule over the opinion of the majority. Live with it is better that live without it, but that's your call.

Good luck.

Back on topic, this will definitely be interesting!
Upps, I just saw that too late.

I think the next n-change will be really interresting. It would surprice me if anything changes much, but if it doesn't change after this it probably won't change in the future either.

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September 29, 2013, 08:00:42 PM
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... and also partly because I suspect more important decisions will never be made.

I hope you are wrong about this.

This might be to far outside the box yet, but I hope we will be able to vote on really important stuff in the future. It's unlikely that all fundermental constants in YAC (n-increase,POS reward,blocks/hr,...) will perfectly fit forever and won't need adjustments ever again. I'm not even advicing to change anything at all, but soly the ability to vote such things could be very beneficial in the future.

As you might have noticed I want to built up a voting system based on my giveaway thread. All suitable adresses will be collected there and with the help of CC and a simple script votes could be transparent and fair*. If I could get enough (important) people of the YAC community to get there and sign that message this would help enourmously.

Please get your free YACs by signing a message for me:
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*)I'm against weighting every vote equal, but that's someting the community would have to decide later on. As long as we have no upcoming votes (the logo is already decided, live with it) noone has incentives to push for a system that vavours a specivic result.


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October 01, 2013, 12:56:23 AM
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I'm having trouble getting any POS on my Qt Wallet. I have coins over 30 days and nothing. I have client version v0.4.0.0-g2nd-yac-wm-alphan, does that make a difference? I do not know what could be going wring with the POS. I always though that they would just come on their own when I hit coins of 30 day age. Help. Thanks all.

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October 01, 2013, 01:23:12 AM
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Did you remember to unlock your wallet?   Inside the wallet go to 'Help' then Debug window.   Then type 'walletpassphrase' *your password* '999999999'   Then you should see the lock in the bottom right corner 'open.'  Your wallet will then be open for minting.  (Don't worry unlocking doesn't make it 'unsecure' - it is only unlocked for minting Smiley)

 

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October 01, 2013, 01:59:24 AM
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I wanted to take a quick moment and say thank you to Joe and Sarion for all of your hard work you've been putting into continuing developing YAC.  I'm not a 'big player' but I would like to show my appreciation for all of your efforts.

Donation to Joe_Bauers (1,000 YAC): http://yacexplorer.tk/tx/3c33540a7adf6c08ab968862140d39e5b77a31999f21719957ef4689c3c69751#o0
Donation to Sar (1,000 YAC): http://yacexplorer.tk/tx/181038261a9423b7057c3f20b2c44070af292edbf28eacb1afa993191d368ed7#o1

I look forward the future you both bring to YAC.  Smiley

In addition, I also want to say thank-you to St.Bit for taking the time (and giving away his own coins) to help promote YAC.  I hope the following donation helps you continue your efforts. Smiley

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October 01, 2013, 02:23:43 AM
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Did you remember to unlock your wallet?   Inside the wallet go to 'Help' then Debug window.   Then type 'walletpassphrase' *your password* '999999999'   Then you should see the lock in the bottom right corner 'open.'  Your wallet will then be open for minting.  (Don't worry unlocking doesn't make it 'unsecure' - it is only unlocked for minting Smiley)

Thanks for the hint but the strange thing is that I have never locked my wallet. I will do it now, since I know that it does not affect pos, Thank. But I have never locked it and still no POS, any other ideas and to why it might not work?

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October 01, 2013, 02:25:21 AM
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Did you remember to unlock your wallet?   Inside the wallet go to 'Help' then Debug window.   Then type 'walletpassphrase' *your password* '999999999'   Then you should see the lock in the bottom right corner 'open.'  Your wallet will then be open for minting.  (Don't worry unlocking doesn't make it 'unsecure' - it is only unlocked for minting Smiley)

What you posted effectively unlocks the wallet, mint only is like this:
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'walletpassphrase' *your password* '999999999' TRUE
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October 01, 2013, 02:27:11 AM
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Did you remember to unlock your wallet?   Inside the wallet go to 'Help' then Debug window.   Then type 'walletpassphrase' *your password* '999999999'   Then you should see the lock in the bottom right corner 'open.'  Your wallet will then be open for minting.  (Don't worry unlocking doesn't make it 'unsecure' - it is only unlocked for minting Smiley)

What you posted effectively unlocks the wallet, mint only is like this:
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'walletpassphrase' *your password* '999999999' TRUE

Hey I have another question, will my wallet still be encrypted? Just curious, if I would still have to put in the pass phrase to create new addresses or send coin? Thanks

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October 01, 2013, 02:41:39 AM
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I'm having trouble getting any POS on my Qt Wallet. I have coins over 30 days and nothing. I have client version v0.4.0.0-g2nd-yac-wm-alphan, does that make a difference? I do not know what could be going wring with the POS. I always though that they would just come on their own when I hit coins of 30 day age. Help. Thanks all.

There may not be any problem and just needs time. How often you get POS interest seem to relate to how old are the coins and how many coins you have. When I first tried to get POS after a bit over a month, I waited for days to see it once. From 2 months on, it happens quite regularly.

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