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thanks for the reply

good luck

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from irc2p #anoncoin-dev

<abyss> hey i was looking at the chinese anoncoin community and i noticed something
<abyss> anc is known as 阿侬币
<abyss>  阿侬 - phonetic appoximation, litterally ā nóng
<abyss> 币 means "credit" or "coin"
<abyss> i think it would be better if it was known as 匿名币
<abyss> 匿名 means anonymous or incognito
<abyss> it would be pronounced "nìmíng bì"
<abyss> "niming" is "anonymous" and "bi" is "coin"
<abyss> considering that they make up a large segment of the anoncoin and general crypto community we should consider changing the name
<abyss> what do you think?

[jolskeboll]

Why are all the different anoncoin blockchain explorers operating at such different speeds? Some of them are hours behind... coinplorer seems to be fast, but why these big differences between explorers for this coin? What I mean, there may be already as much as 20 confirmations before the transaction show up in some, for example http://ancblockchain.com

[entertheabyss]

Why are all the different anoncoin blockchain explorers operating at such different speeds? Some of them are hours behind... coinplorer seems to be fast, but why these big differences between explorers for this coin? What I mean, there may be already as much as 20 confirmations before the transaction show up in some, for example http://ancblockchain.com

its because some people are running outdated clients and not maintaining their websites. I noticed it for a few other altcoin block explorers

[CryptocurrencyNetwork]

Hi, a chart by a bitcointalk member:

[jolskeboll]

Abyss,
I now registered, tested and traded on http://exchanged.i2p.xyz and it seems to work. However, I need buttons like all-in and calculations.

[jolskeboll]

A stupid question, but are there any upper limits of how many ANC can be sent in a transaction?

[entertheabyss]

Abyss,
I now registered, tested and traded on http://exchanged.i2p.xyz and it seems to work. However, I need buttons like all-in and calculations.

Awesome! The issue with adding all-in and calculation buttons is they require javascript which can be used to deanonymize users. I plan on doing an open source desktop client though, this way I can provide a platform with client side scripting and more shiny features that are limited with the i2p site.
I hope to have i2p embedded in this so there is not an issue connecting.

Just keep in mind that i2p.xyz is a 3rd party inproxy service and you are sending financial data through them unencrypted. I don't know who runs it and i cannot vouch for them.

[entertheabyss]

A stupid question, but are there any upper limits of how many ANC can be sent in a transaction?

Upper limit is your total account balance.

[entertheabyss]

Hi, a chart by a bitcointalk member:

thanks

[entertheabyss]

Cryptsy is dead for good, http://blog.cryptsy.com/

Announcement

Cryptsy has had problems for some time now and it’s time to let everybody know exactly why.  These problems were NOT because of any recent phishing attacks, or even a ddos attack, nor does it have anything to do with me personally.

About a year and a half ago, we were alerted in the early AM of a reduction in our safe/cold wallet balances of Bitcoin and Litecoin, as well as a couple other smaller cryptocurrencies.   After a period of time of investigation it was found that the developer of Lucky7Coin had placed an IRC backdoor into the code of wallet, which allowed it to act as a sort of a Trojan, or command and control unit.   This Trojan had likely been there for months before it was able to collect enough information to perform the attack.  It does not appear that this was the original developer for LK7, as on 5/22/2014, we received this message from the new developer who wanted to maintain the codebase:

—

Hello,

Lucky7Coin is not maintained and I would like to take care of it. I have announced that on bitcointalk.org in Lucky7Coin thread. You’re the only exchange for this coin and I hope you will let me take care of it. I’m responsible. You don’t have to be afraid of errors or forks. I’m developing multipool and I know bitcoin internals and protocol.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=295157.msg6861797#msg6861797

For a start I’ve changed irc network, so clients could synchronize blockchain. Please upgrade as soon as you can.

Github repo:
https://github.com/alerj78/lucky7coin

Branch “master” will always be for stable version, branch “devel” could be dirty. In a 2-3 weeks I’ll release new version with p2pool support and checkpoints. Before that I’ll contact you to check few blocks hashes for checkpoints and make sure there is no fork.

I hope we can cooperate and make this coin live again!

Jack

—

These are the approximate figures taken:
Bitcoin:  13,000 BTC
Litecoin:  300,000 LTC

This of course was a critical event for Cryptsy, however at the time the website was earning more than it was spending and we still have some reserves of those cryptocurrencies on hand.   The decision was made to pull from our profits to fill these wallets back up over time, thus attempting to avert complete closure of the website at that time.   This worked fine for awhile, as profits decreased due to low volume and low Bitcoin prices, we would adjust our spending accordingly.  It wasn’t until an article from Coinfire came out that contained many false accusations that things began to crumble.   The article basically caused a bank-run, and since we only had so much in reserves for those currencies problems began.  

Our current customer liabilities for BTC is around 10,000 BTC, so as you can see we would like to see the Bitcoins returned for both our users and for ourselves.

Here are the transaction details from the Bitcoin wallet:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2

As you can see,  2014-07-29 13:17:36 is when the event occurred.   A very interesting fact here, however, is that those Bitcoins have not moved once since this happened.    This gives rise to the possibility they can be recovered.   In fact, I’m offering a bounty of 1000 BTC for information which leads to the recovery of the stolen coins.

If you happen to be the perpetrator of this crime, and want to send the coins back no questions asked, then you can simply send them to this address:  

1KNi4E4MTsF7gfuPKPNAbrZWQvtdQBTAAa

If they are returned, then we will assume that no harm was meant and will not take any action to reveal who you are.  If not, well, then I suppose the entire community will be looking for you.

Some may ask why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred, and the answer is that we just didn’t know what happened, didn’t want to cause panic, and were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.   At one time we had a open communication with Secret Service Agent Shaun Bridges on an unrelated matter, but I think we all know what happened with him – so he was no longer somebody we could report this to.    Recently I attempted to contact the Miami FBI office to report this, but they instead directed me to report it on the I3C website.  I’ve not heard anything from them.

I think the only real people who can assist with this are the people of the Bitcoin community itself.

Trades and withdrawals will be suspended on the site indefinately until some sort of resolution can be made.

Here are our options:

1. We shut down the website and file bankruptcy, letting users file claims via the bankruptcy process and letting the court make the disbursements.

- or –

2. Somebody else comes in to purchase and run Cryptsy while also making good on requested withdrawals.

- or –

3. If somehow we are able to re-aquire the stolen funds, then we allow all withdrawal requests to process.

I’m obviously open to any other ideas people may have on this.

    Jan 14th, 2016

[entertheabyss]

How many anoncoins do they still have, last guestimate i heard is 500k or about 1/4 of all currently mined anoncoins. and 1/6 of total supply.
rich list: https://coinplorer.com/ANC/Addresses/0/Top

top wallet balance: 530,015.95

[jolskeboll]

Abyss,
I now registered, tested and traded on http://exchanged.i2p.xyz and it seems to work. However, I need buttons like all-in and calculations.

Awesome! The issue with adding all-in and calculation buttons is they require javascript which can be used to deanonymize users. I plan on doing an open source desktop client though, this way I can provide a platform with client side scripting and more shiny features that are limited with the i2p site.
I hope to have i2p embedded in this so there is not an issue connecting.

Just keep in mind that i2p.xyz is a 3rd party inproxy service and you are sending financial data through them unencrypted. I don't know who runs it and i cannot vouch for them.

I just did not want to install i2p here at work, so I just used that third party page. It is a little slow, but that's ok. I don't use any big sums, but I bought away those cheap ANC at 0.25 (and another order at 3x if i remember correctly). Yep, I know about that javascript can reveal your identity, so I understand. However, you could of course add that button and just state that javascript needed for some of the actions. Remember, if you are very concerned about privacy, I don't think anyone would download a nontrusted client. But keep up the work. Volumes are small, so I'll wait until someone else joins.

If you use the .xyz-site, create a totally new username with a totally new password to prevent man-in-the middle phishing for other sites.

[jolskeboll]

Cryptsy is dead for good, http://blog.cryptsy.com/

Announcement

Cryptsy has had problems for some time now and it’s time to let everybody know exactly why.  These problems were NOT because of any recent phishing attacks, or even a ddos attack, nor does it have anything to do with me personally.

About a year and a half ago, we were alerted in the early AM of a reduction in our safe/cold wallet balances of Bitcoin and Litecoin, as well as a couple other smaller cryptocurrencies.   After a period of time of investigation it was found that the developer of Lucky7Coin had placed an IRC backdoor into the code of wallet, which allowed it to act as a sort of a Trojan, or command and control unit.   This Trojan had likely been there for months before it was able to collect enough information to perform the attack.  It does not appear that this was the original developer for LK7, as on 5/22/2014, we received this message from the new developer who wanted to maintain the codebase:

—

Hello,

Lucky7Coin is not maintained and I would like to take care of it. I have announced that on bitcointalk.org in Lucky7Coin thread. You’re the only exchange for this coin and I hope you will let me take care of it. I’m responsible. You don’t have to be afraid of errors or forks. I’m developing multipool and I know bitcoin internals and protocol.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=295157.msg6861797#msg6861797

For a start I’ve changed irc network, so clients could synchronize blockchain. Please upgrade as soon as you can.

Github repo:
https://github.com/alerj78/lucky7coin

Branch “master” will always be for stable version, branch “devel” could be dirty. In a 2-3 weeks I’ll release new version with p2pool support and checkpoints. Before that I’ll contact you to check few blocks hashes for checkpoints and make sure there is no fork.

I hope we can cooperate and make this coin live again!

Jack

—

These are the approximate figures taken:
Bitcoin:  13,000 BTC
Litecoin:  300,000 LTC

This of course was a critical event for Cryptsy, however at the time the website was earning more than it was spending and we still have some reserves of those cryptocurrencies on hand.   The decision was made to pull from our profits to fill these wallets back up over time, thus attempting to avert complete closure of the website at that time.   This worked fine for awhile, as profits decreased due to low volume and low Bitcoin prices, we would adjust our spending accordingly.  It wasn’t until an article from Coinfire came out that contained many false accusations that things began to crumble.   The article basically caused a bank-run, and since we only had so much in reserves for those currencies problems began.  

Our current customer liabilities for BTC is around 10,000 BTC, so as you can see we would like to see the Bitcoins returned for both our users and for ourselves.

Here are the transaction details from the Bitcoin wallet:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2

As you can see,  2014-07-29 13:17:36 is when the event occurred.   A very interesting fact here, however, is that those Bitcoins have not moved once since this happened.    This gives rise to the possibility they can be recovered.   In fact, I’m offering a bounty of 1000 BTC for information which leads to the recovery of the stolen coins.

If you happen to be the perpetrator of this crime, and want to send the coins back no questions asked, then you can simply send them to this address:  

1KNi4E4MTsF7gfuPKPNAbrZWQvtdQBTAAa

If they are returned, then we will assume that no harm was meant and will not take any action to reveal who you are.  If not, well, then I suppose the entire community will be looking for you.

Some may ask why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred, and the answer is that we just didn’t know what happened, didn’t want to cause panic, and were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.   At one time we had a open communication with Secret Service Agent Shaun Bridges on an unrelated matter, but I think we all know what happened with him – so he was no longer somebody we could report this to.    Recently I attempted to contact the Miami FBI office to report this, but they instead directed me to report it on the I3C website.  I’ve not heard anything from them.

I think the only real people who can assist with this are the people of the Bitcoin community itself.

Trades and withdrawals will be suspended on the site indefinately until some sort of resolution can be made.

Here are our options:

1. We shut down the website and file bankruptcy, letting users file claims via the bankruptcy process and letting the court make the disbursements.

- or –

2. Somebody else comes in to purchase and run Cryptsy while also making good on requested withdrawals.

- or –

3. If somehow we are able to re-aquire the stolen funds, then we allow all withdrawal requests to process.

I’m obviously open to any other ideas people may have on this.

    Jan 14th, 2016

Shit. Believe this or not then. I mean 13.000BTC is a huge sum and Cryptsy has also been scamming with the Paycoin. Actually I don't really believe this, unless luckycoin developer is someone from Cryptsy. Where are the investigations?

[K1773R]

the backdoor in this coin was public, so here are the options:

1: Craptsy is unable to maintain their coins.
2: Craptsy cant handle security at all.
3: Craptsy is blaming someone else to hide the real facts.

my speculation based on what i saw from craptsy:
True: 1,2
Very likely: 3

[X68N]

the backdoor in this coin was public, so here are the options:

1: Craptsy is unable to maintain their coins.
2: Craptsy is cant handle security at all.
3: Craptsy is blaming someone else to hide the real facts.

my speculation based on what i saw from craptsy:
True: 1,2
Very likely: 3

4: the divorce is the cause , a greedy bitch wants 50% or more of cryptsy...

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for the ANC dude with the evidence was this your video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jWvIeUYGZo

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Spine TINGLING footage of Cryptsy's #Bigvern lying on camera 2 weeks after the 7-million-dollar hack!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJONR_UL1rw

[mmfiore]

Where can I get the latest wallet?

[Cryptoslave]

Where can I get the latest wallet?

You can build by yourself gr_develop, which was recently patched for a header first synchronisation bug and addrman issue; and which is the best version currently available https://wiki.anoncoin.net/How_to_build_Anoncoin_develop

Alternatively here is a link to the win64 executable from my website: www.cryptoslave.com/yo/anoncoin-0.9.6.9-0e35c18-win64-setup.exe

It is stable for mining, but I cannot vouch for commercial use...

CS

[mmfiore]

thank you cryptoslave