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Author Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)  (Read 243196 times)
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December 10, 2018, 04:48:31 PM
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after pog will be what?  Roll Eyes

Can't imagine?

Change isn't always a bad thing.. 

Gotta keep life exciting! haha...

Don't forget the idea is we test POG along with PODC for a while.  So we're still a ways out from cutting PODC
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December 10, 2018, 05:52:50 PM
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im asking 3rd times,who knows how it working POG?  this is shame,that nobody knows  Grin Grin

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December 10, 2018, 06:21:48 PM
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im asking 3rd times,who knows how it working POG?  this is shame,that nobody knows  Grin Grin
We have tried to answer you.
You get rewards by giving donations. You can donate max 300 bbp in 205 block window and get min 30% profit back. In reality those numbers will not be that nice. If I have understand correctly it could go something like this.
You need to have 30*12.5k bbp in your wallet. 30 comes from max coin age. So you have to have 30 days old coins in your wallet always. You donate once a day 150, which is the max when pool is full, and get nearly 200 bbp back. Then you have to combine them back to 12.5k bbp by sending inside wallet and let that age for 30 days. This way you get this super mining reward of 0.01% on daily basis which gives you total of 3.65 % profit yearly. This is the case if you win in lottery and get your into daily slots.
Did I miss something.
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December 10, 2018, 06:25:44 PM
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im tried setup POG=horrible  Grin Grin  

PODC is easy

PoG is in testnet. There's not much to do except for click "Donate To Foundation" and your donation amount. Click Send. That's it.

It'll get better over time.

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December 10, 2018, 06:30:02 PM
Last edit: December 10, 2018, 06:40:55 PM by sunk818
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The key is usually - I've been saying that all along.  However the word was picked carefully - and it's meaning is "whatever level you are comfortable with"  - you are making a sacrifice from your personal income - and that's the scope of the word in POG.  (In contrast to making up our own use of the word).

Your overall financial standing helps bring context to your giving. I tend to think all these BiblePay specific terms for technical terms that already is a turn off to newcomers.

Mark 12:41-44 English Standard Version (ESV)
The Widow's Offering
41 And he sat down opposite the treasury and watched the people putting money into the offering box. Many rich people put in large sums. 42 And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which make a penny.[a] 43 And he called his disciples to him and said to them, “Truly, I say to you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the offering box. 44 For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.”

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December 10, 2018, 07:39:07 PM
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Haven't seen a PODC update/transaction in 5 days, any suggestions?
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December 10, 2018, 10:58:27 PM
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Haven't seen a PODC update/transaction in 5 days, any suggestions?

https://forum.biblepay.org/tools/podcstatus.php?cpid=
What do you see ?
For my parts, somethimes, when i get a Internet DC, i need to close and reopen the wallet so he can realy connect to the internet. do know if it helps
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December 10, 2018, 11:10:36 PM
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im tried setup POG=horrible  Grin Grin  

PODC is easy

PoG is in testnet. There's not much to do except for click "Donate To Foundation" and your donation amount. Click Send. That's it.

It'll get better over time.
im asked different questions about pog and no answers....... its funny then ...

1. when you send 1,2,3,4 times to foundation? whats happened? ... my amount raised always...... its normally?
2. after 5-6 hours my rewards stopped, why? only manually working?
3. whats minimum starter in wallet?how much bbp?
4. mining in wallet must be?
5. builder 1000wallets its like botnet?

 https://biblepay-central.org/en/ ended?

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December 11, 2018, 12:00:09 PM
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im tried setup POG=horrible  Grin Grin 

PODC is easy

PoG is in testnet. There's not much to do except for click "Donate To Foundation" and your donation amount. Click Send. That's it.

It'll get better over time.
im asked different questions about pog and no answers....... its funny then ...

1. when you send 1,2,3,4 times to foundation? whats happened? ... my amount raised always...... its normally?
2. after 5-6 hours my rewards stopped, why? only manually working?
3. whats minimum starter in wallet?how much bbp?
4. mining in wallet must be?
5. builder 1000wallets its like botnet?

Thank you for asking these questions in this format. It is easy to answer to this.

1. If they go different blocks it is normal. ATM you can insert more than one donation in each block
2. Testnet is running nearly 4 times as fast as production so this is ok. Tithe is valid for 205 blocks not 24 hours.
3. 1 is minimum, but you will not be able to enter with such a small amount.
4. Mining must be on if you want automatic tithes. Otherwise not needed
5. Yes. But you need very much bbp for that to be successfull.


 
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December 11, 2018, 01:00:13 PM
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I read this from CriptoBridge Discord channel:

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BBP deposits and withdrawals are DISABLED

No reason though.

Edit: I found this from yesterday

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BiblePay: BBP
Deposit/Withdraw: Closed
Message: Disabled upon developers request.
Withdrawal fee: 0.01 BBP + BitShares blockchain fee
Required Confirmations: 250

But it's strange that they announce it today.
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December 11, 2018, 01:19:35 PM
Last edit: December 11, 2018, 01:34:38 PM by slovakia
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im tried setup POG=horrible  Grin Grin  

PODC is easy

PoG is in testnet. There's not much to do except for click "Donate To Foundation" and your donation amount. Click Send. That's it.

It'll get better over time.
im asked different questions about pog and no answers....... its funny then ...

1. when you send 1,2,3,4 times to foundation? whats happened? ... my amount raised always...... its normally?
2. after 5-6 hours my rewards stopped, why? only manually working?
3. whats minimum starter in wallet?how much bbp?
4. mining in wallet must be?
5. builder 1000wallets its like botnet?

Thank you for asking these questions in this format. It is easy to answer to this.

1. If they go different blocks it is normal. ATM you can insert more than one donation in each block
2. Testnet is running nearly 4 times as fast as production so this is ok. Tithe is valid for 205 blocks not 24 hours.
3. 1 is minimum, but you will not be able to enter with such a small amount.
4. Mining must be on if you want automatic tithes. Otherwise not needed
5. Yes. But you need very much bbp for that to be successfull.


 
its shame,when im asked this Rob,never answered

ok:we can continue with questions:

1. why wallet automaticly shutdown self?
2. TITHE REWARD aka POG REWARD .ca 4500 why so high reward?
3. sometimes my nickname disappeared from pogpool
3. what is payment tier: exists 16 pcs..... ill jump random to any tier?

thanks Vahtis

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December 11, 2018, 01:40:13 PM
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im tried setup POG=horrible  Grin Grin  

PODC is easy

PoG is in testnet. There's not much to do except for click "Donate To Foundation" and your donation amount. Click Send. That's it.

It'll get better over time.
im asked different questions about pog and no answers....... its funny then ...

1. when you send 1,2,3,4 times to foundation? whats happened? ... my amount raised always...... its normally?
2. after 5-6 hours my rewards stopped, why? only manually working?
3. whats minimum starter in wallet?how much bbp?
4. mining in wallet must be?
5. builder 1000wallets its like botnet?

Thank you for asking these questions in this format. It is easy to answer to this.

1. If they go different blocks it is normal. ATM you can insert more than one donation in each block
2. Testnet is running nearly 4 times as fast as production so this is ok. Tithe is valid for 205 blocks not 24 hours.
3. 1 is minimum, but you will not be able to enter with such a small amount.
4. Mining must be on if you want automatic tithes. Otherwise not needed
5. Yes. But you need very much bbp for that to be successfull.


 
its shame,when im asked this Rob,never answered

ok:we can continue with questions:

1. why wallet automaticly shutdown self?
2. TITHE REWARD aka POG REWARD .ca 4500 why so high reward?
3. sometimes my nickname disappeared from pogpool
4. what is payment tier: exists 16 pcs..... ill jump random to any tier?

thanks Vahtis

1. This I do not know
2. When you are only one in block your weight is 1 and you get 80 % of reward. This is testnet limitation
3. I do not know
4. Your tier is (block height)%16. So it is not random. I am not sure if it is last or first block you are in
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December 11, 2018, 01:50:48 PM
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"yNkUU4v33Y7je144SsjcibR5ULr8eviUVd": "Amount: 585.00, Weight: 0.1064, Payment_Tier: 6, Height: 86246, Address: yNkUU4v33Y7je144SsjcibR5ULr8eviUVd, NickName: slovakia",

my tier is 6 ... what is tier?  example:  86260 block= exists 10 POGMEN= no all must be on this block with donation? is 86260 TIER 1 and 86261 TIER 2? dont understand this words and 99% users too

its need to send donation for higher reward?

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December 11, 2018, 02:02:33 PM
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"yNkUU4v33Y7je144SsjcibR5ULr8eviUVd": "Amount: 585.00, Weight: 0.1064, Payment_Tier: 6, Height: 86246, Address: yNkUU4v33Y7je144SsjcibR5ULr8eviUVd, NickName: slovakia",

my tier is 6 ... what is tier?

its need to send donation for higher reward?

In this case your weight is 10.64 % so you get 8 % of next mined block which height modulus by 16 is 6. So you would gain from sending some more.
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December 11, 2018, 02:18:53 PM
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how you get 8%?

20% POW
80% POG = variableX  

that 8% i suppose is 10% from 80%, right?   (X:(WEIGHT*10))

TIER 1 is block or block has 16 TIERS?

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December 11, 2018, 02:41:15 PM
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how you get 8%?

20% POW
80% POG = variableX  

that 8% i suppose is 10% from 80%, right?   (X:(WEIGHT*10))

TIER 1 is block or block has 16 TIERS?

8  % is as you proposed

Each block rewards one tier.

My windows 64 wallet crashed too.
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December 11, 2018, 03:21:40 PM
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how you get 8%?

20% POW
80% POG = variableX  

that 8% i suppose is 10% from 80%, right?   (X:(WEIGHT*10))

TIER 1 is block or block has 16 TIERS?

8  % is as you proposed

Each block rewards one tier.

My windows 64 wallet crashed too.

Could you post debug.log or email me?
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December 11, 2018, 04:15:41 PM
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Haven't seen a PODC update/transaction in 5 days, any suggestions?

https://forum.biblepay.org/tools/podcstatus.php?cpid=
What do you see ?
For my parts, somethimes, when i get a Internet DC, i need to close and reopen the wallet so he can realy connect to the internet. do know if it helps

Thanks. Here are some of the results from the link:

Error: Missed a 24 hour PODC Update Window

Total Rac:8,257
Min Required Stake:6,610
Min Stake last 24hr:0 Warning: Not enough stake
Most Recent Stake:0 Warning: Not enough stake

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If 20 BBP is needed for each Rac, then the required stake is 20 x 8257 Rac = 165140

There is more than 165140 BBP in the wallet.

Also, isn't the UTXO/stake automatically calculated to provide a lower percentage of reward if the entire 20 BBP per Rac isn't available?
 
fyi there is no 'utxoamount=' in the biblepay.conf file.


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December 11, 2018, 04:17:41 PM
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how you get 8%?

20% POW
80% POG = variableX  

that 8% i suppose is 10% from 80%, right?   (X:(WEIGHT*10))

TIER 1 is block or block has 16 TIERS?

8  % is as you proposed

Each block rewards one tier.

My windows 64 wallet crashed too.

Could you post debug.log or email me?

https://www.dropjiffy.com/f/JCALP5YV
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December 11, 2018, 05:54:23 PM
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how you get 8%?

20% POW
80% POG = variableX  

that 8% i suppose is 10% from 80%, right?   (X:(WEIGHT*10))

TIER 1 is block or block has 16 TIERS?

Please post testnet POG issues in the POG testnet thread.

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