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December 03, 2013, 01:58:30 AM
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Why there is a 10ch/h line while no 10-chains have been found, as indicated by [0/0/0] ? Why is the max diff 10.000000 ? Did the miner find a 10chain but somehow it wasn't valid?
Is it related to "-target 9 -bttarget 9" option?

Actually, it seems to do that everytime you find a block (10-chain). Well, it does for me.
If you look at your pool account, you should see it as a "Found block" and receive the income accordingly.
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December 03, 2013, 09:09:59 AM
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I found several 10 chains and one 11 chain and it showed up fine. So no problem at my machines
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December 03, 2013, 09:23:39 AM
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Actually, it seems to do that everytime you find a block (10-chain). Well, it does for me.
If you look at your pool account, you should see it as a "Found block" and receive the income accordingly.

I didn''t see a new block found on the pool side.
20 9-chains and no 10-chain. Is it just bad luch or the command line makes the miner only look for 9 chains?




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December 03, 2013, 01:44:49 PM
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Those number aren't proven very useful. they are indicators of different steps of the mining process. 
The Chain/day is more useful in telling how quick you could find 9-chains, a fraction (i.e. 1-difficulty) of which will be blocks. The value/h tells how this miner has been doing given the current reward policy -- higher means more reward from the pool.

Isn't the pps the main speed indicator? I remember a hardware comparison list and i think it was sorted based on pps. Not sure though.

No. It was a long time ago most people used pps, when no one understood the mining process much except Sunny King. these days cpd is used but different miners use slightly different definition of cpd.
the only reliable indicator is how many XPM you mine perday, after mining for some days when many a few blocks are found. It can take weeks to do so. this number is tied to the pool performance if you are not soloing.

I mean is it possible for a miner that mines with 5k pps to actually mine more coins from a miner that mines with 10k pps?
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December 03, 2013, 10:55:09 PM
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any ideas abotu the jhprimeminer "has stopped working" error?

trying to mine  at ypool but it just instantly crashes.


"jhPrimeMiner.exe -o http://ypool.net -xpt -u condemned.XPM_1 -p x"

The string above should be correct?

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December 05, 2013, 05:58:51 PM
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The Mumus Links are not working....
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December 05, 2013, 09:18:02 PM
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any ideas abotu the jhprimeminer "has stopped working" error?

trying to mine  at ypool but it just instantly crashes.


"jhPrimeMiner.exe -o http://ypool.net -xpt -u condemned.XPM_1 -p x"

The string above should be correct?

Check the details of the error message and see if a file mpir.dll is mentioned.
Probably you have the wrong mpir.dll install for your cpu.
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December 06, 2013, 12:25:44 AM
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I know this is a dumb question but I have to ask.  Huh
How do you guys see the stats such as PPS etc when you have started JH from a batch file? Are you writing this out to a log file?
Also anyone know if this is a strong config for Xeon 24 thread CPU? I will post the rate I am mining at if I can figure out how to do it.

jhPrimeminer-T16.exe -u worker -p pass -m 53 -m2 59 -m3 61 -m4 67 -o ypool.net:8083

Thanks DBA
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December 07, 2013, 03:35:14 AM
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I know this is a dumb question but I have to ask.  Huh
How do you guys see the stats such as PPS etc when you have started JH from a batch file? Are you writing this out to a log file?
Also anyone know if this is a strong config for Xeon 24 thread CPU? I will post the rate I am mining at if I can figure out how to do it.

jhPrimeminer-T16.exe -u worker -p pass -m 53 -m2 59 -m3 61 -m4 67 -o ypool.net:8083

Thanks DBA

Anyone with any input? I have access to many different types of processors and will gladly post the results.
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December 07, 2013, 04:57:38 PM
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Anyone with any input? I have access to many different types of processors and will gladly post the results.

You could try adding "-target 9 -bttarget 9" to your config, I've seen an increase with it (well, I think so, it's kinda hard to tell with this coin since there's no "hashrate" per se).
I think it focuses your miner on finding 9-chains instead of 10 since you find a much greater deal of those than 10-chains, and they are still worth a lot.
As for the multiple -m, not sure about this, I've not seen many people use that config before.
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December 07, 2013, 06:04:58 PM
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The main problem is that you can't tell by the live stats when your miner does better.  Undecided
It seems that primes/ sec aren't a reliable measure.
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December 08, 2013, 11:22:40 PM
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The main problem is that you can't tell by the live stats when your miner does better.  Undecided
It seems that primes/ sec aren't a reliable measure.

Indeed, "share value per hour" is better, but you find a few 9-chain or a 10-chain and it jumps quite higher, so while it's better it's still unreliable for performance measurement.
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December 09, 2013, 02:58:35 AM
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Anyone with any input? I have access to many different types of processors and will gladly post the results.

You could try adding "-target 9 -bttarget 9" to your config, I've seen an increase with it (well, I think so, it's kinda hard to tell with this coin since there's no "hashrate" per se).
I think it focuses your miner on finding 9-chains instead of 10 since you find a much greater deal of those than 10-chains, and they are still worth a lot.
As for the multiple -m, not sure about this, I've not seen many people use that config before.

Thanks a lot for the reply.
To be clear are you saying there is no real way to measure how fast a processor is compared to another processor?
I was looking here and it lists some different CPU's but I don't know how to see the output.
http://xpmwiki.com/index.php?title=Hardware_comparison
In other words is it possible that I am using two XEON 5639 with 24 threads and it could actual not perform as well as a new generation XEON with less  threads. I have access to all kinds of processors and can post info I just know how to look for that info and what  part of it is useful.
I can of course look at this information with the standard XPM wallet but not with JHPrimeminer. Once I start the batch file with these parameters I don't know how to gauge performance.
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December 09, 2013, 05:32:14 AM
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Anyone with any input? I have access to many different types of processors and will gladly post the results.

You could try adding "-target 9 -bttarget 9" to your config, I've seen an increase with it (well, I think so, it's kinda hard to tell with this coin since there's no "hashrate" per se).
I think it focuses your miner on finding 9-chains instead of 10 since you find a much greater deal of those than 10-chains, and they are still worth a lot.
As for the multiple -m, not sure about this, I've not seen many people use that config before.

Thanks a lot for the reply.
To be clear are you saying there is no real way to measure how fast a processor is compared to another processor?
I was looking here and it lists some different CPU's but I don't know how to see the output.
http://xpmwiki.com/index.php?title=Hardware_comparison
In other words is it possible that I am using two XEON 5639 with 24 threads and it could actual not perform as well as a new generation XEON with less  threads. I have access to all kinds of processors and can post info I just know how to look for that info and what  part of it is useful.
I can of course look at this information with the standard XPM wallet but not with JHPrimeminer. Once I start the batch file with these parameters I don't know how to gauge performance.

 chain/day makes assumption and different miners use slightly different difinition of cpd. Even with the same cpd you would get different return on different pools because their reward policies are different.  The best parameter is how many XPMs you make perdat on average.

Some of the pools reward heavily the block finder. So in order to get a fair comparison for long term mining speed you would need to wait your miner to find a few blocks before drawing conclusion. That takes time unless you have several of the same machines to bundle together. Then you have parameter space to explore for each miner software.
 
You need to be methodical and careful to do it right.




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December 09, 2013, 05:45:28 AM
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Anyone with any input? I have access to many different types of processors and will gladly post the results.

You could try adding "-target 9 -bttarget 9" to your config, I've seen an increase with it (well, I think so, it's kinda hard to tell with this coin since there's no "hashrate" per se).
I think it focuses your miner on finding 9-chains instead of 10 since you find a much greater deal of those than 10-chains, and they are still worth a lot.
As for the multiple -m, not sure about this, I've not seen many people use that config before.

Thanks a lot for the reply.
To be clear are you saying there is no real way to measure how fast a processor is compared to another processor?
I was looking here and it lists some different CPU's but I don't know how to see the output.
http://xpmwiki.com/index.php?title=Hardware_comparison
In other words is it possible that I am using two XEON 5639 with 24 threads and it could actual not perform as well as a new generation XEON with less  threads. I have access to all kinds of processors and can post info I just know how to look for that info and what  part of it is useful.
I can of course look at this information with the standard XPM wallet but not with JHPrimeminer. Once I start the batch file with these parameters I don't know how to gauge performance.

 chain/day makes assumption and different miners use slightly different difinition of cpd. Even with the same cpd you would get different return on different pools because their reward policies are different.  The best parameter is how many XPMs you make perdat on average.

Some of the pools reward heavily the block finder. So in order to get a fair comparison for long term mining speed you would need to wait your miner to find a few blocks before drawing conclusion. That takes time unless you have several of the same machines to bundle together. Then you have parameter space to explore for each miner software.
 
You need to be methodical and careful to do it right.

First of thanks for the reply
Ok this makes sense I am using Ypool. I can segment an account I guess and see how long it takes to get 1 XPM for each type of CPU as a baseline. It would at least provide a rough estimate.
Right now I can say one server with Dual 5639 I get one XPM per 24 hour period. I think this is pretty decent but I don't have anything else to compare it to.

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December 10, 2013, 04:55:02 AM
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I have the following output. Is there way to predict how long it takes for me to mine a block looking at the output? How do you calculate and what number do you use?

New Block: 303100 - Diff: 9.992898 / 9.992898
Best/Max diff: [ 9.913507 / 0.000000 ]
6ch/h:    79.24 - 2077 [ 604 / 636 / 837 ]
7ch/h:     8.81 - 231 [ 70 / 79 / 82 ]
8ch/h:     0.88 - 23 [ 6 / 7 / 10 ]
9ch/h:     0.11 - 3 [ 1 / 0 / 2 ]
MNPS:423.47   PPS:35823        WPS:13.837   ACC:2588
Current Primorial: 61 - Sieve Size: 1974500 - Prime Count: 42389
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December 10, 2013, 11:43:41 AM
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Does anyone have a working OSX binary and could upload it somewhere? I've got a quite a few macs here but am unable to compile.
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December 10, 2013, 11:48:57 AM
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Does anyone have a working OSX binary and could upload it somewhere? I've got a quite a few macs here but am unable to compile.

What is the problem you are having?  I was able to compile on osx
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December 10, 2013, 11:59:27 AM
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Does anyone have a working OSX binary and could upload it somewhere? I've got a quite a few macs here but am unable to compile.

What is the problem you are having?  I was able to compile on osx

time mostly, I got xcode and a macports but got lots of errors about something missing. I am not entirely sure what went wrong but if you could upload a binary I would appreciate it.
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December 11, 2013, 01:36:53 PM
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What's the best miner for ypool to run on ubuntu 64bit servers right now ?
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