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September 22, 2013, 01:01:54 AM
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better late than never
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September 22, 2013, 01:02:11 AM
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I was joking  Grin

oh, I know, I was just wondering if you knew where the other TH/s went?  did they disappear?

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September 22, 2013, 01:02:45 AM
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If you havent ignored FUD VelaRetardations now is a good time if any to do so, still fudding with almost 1TH mining, lol
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September 22, 2013, 01:02:54 AM
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I was joking  Grin

oh, I know, I was just wondering if you knew where the other TH/s went?  did they disappear?

Never existed. Like a mirage.

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September 22, 2013, 01:04:56 AM
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I was joking  Grin

oh, I know, I was just wondering if you knew where the other TH/s went?  did they disappear?

They were having problems if you failed to read their prior updates FUDer. Now its coming back online after the issues have been resolved.

Thanks for being here to protect us against a scam. Now that they clearly have shown its not a scam, you can leave and stop spreading FUD.

Afterall that was the only reason you are here to protect us right?
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September 22, 2013, 01:05:48 AM
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wow suddenly a flood of people I've ignored are trying to talk on this thread.
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September 22, 2013, 01:06:35 AM
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I was joking  Grin

oh, I know, I was just wondering if you knew where the other TH/s went?  did they disappear?

They were having problems if you failed to read their prior updates FUDer. Now its coming back online after the issues have been resolved.

Thanks for being here to protect us against a scam. Now that they clearly have shown its not a scam, you can leave and stop spreading FUD.

Afterall that was the only reason you are here to protect us right?

I really hate the terms FUD and FUDster, but I've got to say - FUDsters gonna FUD
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September 22, 2013, 01:07:06 AM
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I was joking  Grin

oh, I know, I was just wondering if you knew where the other TH/s went?  did they disappear?

They were having problems if you failed to read their prior updates FUDer. Now its coming back online after the issues have been resolved.

Thanks for being here to protect us against a scam. Now that they clearly have shown its not a scam, you can leave and stop spreading FUD.

Afterall that was the only reason you are here to protect us right?

Seems your brain is made in USA. Good people vs. Bad people. I won't comment any further your posts, there is nothing to say.

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September 22, 2013, 01:09:53 AM
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Seems your brain is made in USA. Good people vs. Bad people. I won't comment any further your posts, there is nothing to say.

Please take your USA envy and GFY. Keep it up Labcoin!

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September 22, 2013, 01:10:36 AM
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UPDATE:

 I hope everyone is having a good weekend.

I am now, yes.   Grin
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Seems your brain is made in USA. Good people vs. Bad people. I won't comment any further your posts, there is nothing to say.

Please take your USA envy and GFY.

You are so sophisticated.

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September 22, 2013, 01:11:33 AM
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I was joking  Grin

oh, I know, I was just wondering if you knew where the other TH/s went?  did they disappear?

They were having problems if you failed to read their prior updates FUDer. Now its coming back online after the issues have been resolved.

Thanks for being here to protect us against a scam. Now that they clearly have shown its not a scam, you can leave and stop spreading FUD.

Afterall that was the only reason you are here to protect us right?

Seems your brain is made in USA. Good people vs. Bad people. I won't comment any further your posts, there is nothing to say.

No my Brain was made in Europe, it doesn't matter where it was made it's not hard to use it, unless it suffers from severe underdevelopment.
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No my Brain was made in Europe, it doesn't matter where it was made it's not hard to use it, unless it suffers from severe underdevelopment.

Seems it's a little bit difficult for your to understand things (like the last time you asked Swede if PR_labcoin was a member of their team). I was really impressed by your performance on that one.

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September 22, 2013, 01:16:41 AM
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Seems your brain is made in USA. Good people vs. Bad people
You're either with us, or against us!

Anyway I just congratulated Labcoin for their achievement and acceptable proof. It's going to make some brains explode!

Or I could say it's both late, and less than 20% of what was first promised Wink


I'm calling off the bet - too bad none of the cheerleaders had the balls to even bet 0.1 BTC.

This fall you are going to find yourself wrong many times.  Happy trolling though...

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September 22, 2013, 01:20:52 AM
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Just out of curiosity, do you have any idea what people actually do with these cell libraries?  I don't mean "design the chip" but actually how they physically use them?  Because it doesn't sound like you actually have any idea.

Are you serious? How do you "physically" use libraries? They are not collections of books you know.  Sure sounds like you are the one who has no idea what he is talking about. Go here for a primer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_design_(electronics)

 Roll Eyes  I hope everyone can see he didn't answer the question - he has no idea what cell libraries are or what chip designers actually do with them.  The wikipedia article he linked too doesn't even mention cell libraries.   Although it certainly could.  The correct Wikipedia article is this one.

So just so everyone is on the same page, let's explain what a standard cell library is.  A standard cell is a standard design for a typical component you'd find inside a chip.  You could think of a standard cell as a region on an actual, physical chip - or (importantly) the data files that describe that region so you can use it in the design process.

But a standard cell library is just a set of data files. When I said "physically use" I was just talking about the steps an IC designer would actually take in order to use them.  i.e. download a file, place it in a certain directory on the hard drive, configure their EDA software to use it, either run a command line or click a button in their EDA software to generate a netlist using the components in a standard cell.

(I'm talking about steps someone takes using a computer, somewhat abstracted from 'physically', but it does involve physically looking at a screen, physically pressing keys and mouse buttons and so on)

That's why it makes zero sense to say they're locked into a process node size once they get their cell library. There's no reason why someone couldn't just get multiple cell libraries for different technologies and design and simulate against both of them.  They would only have to chose at the very last minute, before they sent their order into the fab, so long as they ensure the computer generated physical designs simulate properly across all the libraries.

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See that? synthesis is automated.
Synthesizing is akin to compiling code. And what you are saying is akin to software development being automated because the computer does the compilation Thats great,  now if  only you can make it write the code

Now it really sounds like you've never written software (or maybe aren't any good at it), because you can write software that runs on multiple architectures and operating systems really easily. You don't have to decide if you're writing a Windows program or Linux program before you start, even if you're using a language like C, C++.  You just use different libraries and have the compiler generate binaries for different CPUs.  

As long as you test on multiple platforms as you're developing and fix bugs that might crop up on one OS or another, your code will work fine on both platforms.

Either way, you can have multiple implementations of the same library which implement the same interfaces.  An example would be the POSIX library or OpenGL.  With a C/C++ style language your software is either statically linked in or the OS will dynamically load specific libraries depending on what's installed (so you use the openGL that ships with whatever video card you're using, for example)

The optimization thing is the same with software.  If you want your code to go fast, you might want to use OS specific features in Linux or Windows which would require you either optimize for both, leave one un-optimized, or not even bother supporting multiple platforms. Or you could write your code specifically for NVidia or AMD GPUs to maximize performance on one at the expense of the other.

The key point is that, when you're writing software, you can use multiple libraries. The "standard cells" in standard cell libraries all implement common logical functions like and, XOR, not gates and the like.  They might have more complex circuit elements like adders and so on as well.  But your synthesis software should be able to synthesize against multiple libraries pretty easily just by changing some options and pointing to whichever library file.

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Look, believe what you want. Why dont you ask TheSeven if there is a snowballs chance in hell this chip will be deployed this year. Im guessing you already did but didnt feel like posting that part.

It didn't even occur to me to ask, because it didn't even occur to me that you might have valid point.

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September 22, 2013, 01:21:19 AM
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Seems your brain is made in USA. Good people vs. Bad people
You're either with us, or against us!

Anyway I just congratulated Labcoin for their achievement and acceptable proof. It's going to make some brains explode!

Or I could say it's both late, and less than 20% of what was first promised Wink


I'm calling off the bet - too bad none of the cheerleaders had the balls to even bet 0.1 BTC.

I bet you something more, YOUR NAME, which like a pussy you backed out. Now feel free to leave with the rest of the FUD gang, since you guys don't have to protect us anymore against unrighteousness.
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September 22, 2013, 01:22:23 AM
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UPDATE:

As usual by now I am very sorry for the lack of updates. I do however at this time have an update for actual hashing.

Though the launch of the mining operation has been delayed and the team is still tweaking miners we now have around 800gh hashing at btcguild at:

http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=rankings&section=teams

The Labcoin team is currently listed as 24 Labcoin.

According to Sam, more hash rate will be deployed daily. I do not have any goals or hash rate estimates to communicate right now but as soon as I do, I will of course communicate this.

I hope that I can provide more timely updates on a lot of open questions shortly, and I hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Hmm looks legit enough for me for now gz
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September 22, 2013, 01:22:42 AM
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UPDATE:

As usual by now I am very sorry for the lack of updates. I do however at this time have an update for actual hashing.

Though the launch of the mining operation has been delayed and the team is still tweaking miners we now have around 800gh hashing at btcguild at:

http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=rankings&section=teams

The Labcoin team is currently listed as 24 Labcoin.

According to Sam, more hash rate will be deployed daily. I do not have any goals or hash rate estimates to communicate right now but as soon as I do, I will of course communicate this.

I hope that I can provide more timely updates on a lot of open questions shortly, and I hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Ytter stop wasting time, and look here ^^
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September 22, 2013, 01:23:36 AM
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UPDATE:

As usual by now I am very sorry for the lack of updates. I do however at this time have an update for actual hashing.

Though the launch of the mining operation has been delayed and the team is still tweaking miners we now have around 800gh hashing at btcguild at:

http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=rankings&section=teams

The Labcoin team is currently listed as 24 Labcoin.

According to Sam, more hash rate will be deployed daily. I do not have any goals or hash rate estimates to communicate right now but as soon as I do, I will of course communicate this.

I hope that I can provide more timely updates on a lot of open questions shortly, and I hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Great news, this means the chips are working! I'm really looking forward for the increase of hashrate. Smiley


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Don't forget being fat is a sign of wealth, secondly The French are the dumbasses who created french fries and started an epidemic.
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