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August 17, 2013, 08:55:29 PM |
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Jesus fucking Christ. Here we go again.
Christ? Yeah good point! Where is Christ Vleisides (whose name is on the incorp docs). Can't find him here http://www.butterflylabs.com/management/
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Xian01
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August 17, 2013, 08:56:02 PM |
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Feels like a good time for a... Public Service Announcement:If you have ordered from Butterfly Labs (BFL) and have not yet received your product, you are entitled to a refund whenever you request one (per FTC rules).
First ask Butterfly Labs (BFL) for one, they will probably say no but you might get lucky. If you ordered via PayPal you can file a complaint with them even if you are outside the 45 day window. One customer has already gotten a refund from PayPal that was outside the 45 days.
If you ordered via BTC or Bank wire, you can fill out a complaint with the FTC and they will advocate for you with Butterfly Labs (BFL) to get your refund. You can also contact the office of the Kansas Attorney General and inform them that you have had your money taken with no product delivered for months, just more promises.
There are also several threads on how to get a refund from Butterfly Labs (BFL), here are two:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266945.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272585.0
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superduh
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August 17, 2013, 08:56:59 PM |
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boycott - never buy BFL again - noone should. EVER
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tom99
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August 17, 2013, 08:57:46 PM |
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transfer fee?!?! are you fucking kidding me.
Transfer Fee 10% for buyers order After April 1st, 2013 ps: read someone said no paypal for new order
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August 17, 2013, 08:58:24 PM |
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Butterfly Labs is the pioneer and has remained the leader of the bitcoin mining hardware industry since 2011. We are the only 28nm hardware manufacturer with a proven ASIC design. We have 45 employees, a mature production capacity and supply chain Well, at least JODY is mature!
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millsdmb
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August 17, 2013, 08:59:36 PM |
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Feels like a good time for a... Public Service Announcement:If you have ordered from Butterfly Labs (BFL) and have not yet received your product, you are entitled to a refund whenever you request one (per FTC rules).
First ask Butterfly Labs (BFL) for one, they will probably say no but you might get lucky. If you ordered via PayPal you can file a complaint with them even if you are outside the 45 day window. One customer has already gotten a refund from PayPal that was outside the 45 days.
If you ordered via BTC or Bank wire, you can fill out a complaint with the FTC and they will advocate for you with Butterfly Labs (BFL) to get your refund. You can also contact the office of the Kansas Attorney General and inform them that you have had your money taken with no product delivered for months, just more promises.
There are also several threads on how to get a refund from Butterfly Labs (BFL), here are two:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266945.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272585.0Prevention is the best medicine. Don't get BFL'd
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fractal02
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August 17, 2013, 09:00:36 PM |
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Look at that beauty ! PCI !!! Yeah !!!
Meanwhile KNC show us a cheap refurb case....ROFL...
GO BFL !!! GO !!!
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Xian01
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August 17, 2013, 09:01:41 PM |
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boycott - never buy BFL again - noone should. EVER
Hear hear ! I pity any soul that chooses to purchase a product from Butterfly Labs given their sordid history, as documented on these very forums and their own official forums. They do not deserve the support the greater Bitcoin community given their well-established contempt for it.
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August 17, 2013, 09:02:15 PM |
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Look at that beauty ! The power of photoshop.
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Phinnaeus Gage
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August 17, 2013, 09:03:46 PM |
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transfer fee?!?! are you fucking kidding me.
No they are not! Now, bend over and take it like a man, and better hurry before the price increase, for you know it's coming. If it will make you feel better, use your voucher. That should offset the priority shipping cost. I'm also sure there's a discount in there somewhere if you opt to host at Sonny's, Josh's, Joe's or Jeff Ownby's data center.
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superduh
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August 17, 2013, 09:04:25 PM |
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they'll probably get sued to oblivion before getting these taped out
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August 17, 2013, 09:04:54 PM |
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ROFL so when everyone transfers their order they will magically catch up on all pre-order shipping by september. Also notice no more credit card option.
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August 17, 2013, 09:05:36 PM |
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Can these shmucks get a scammer tag now please BCT?
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Phinnaeus Gage
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August 17, 2013, 09:07:24 PM |
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PG's head just exploded!
I've already explored thrice and just now got to this post. Here's a +1. Madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Xian01
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August 17, 2013, 09:09:24 PM |
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ROFL so when everyone transfers their order they will magically catch up on all pre-order shipping by september. Also notice no more credit card option.
Given their well-documented sordid history, I can't imagine a credit card processor that would be willing to take the risk with Butterfly Labs.
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Phinnaeus Gage
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August 17, 2013, 09:10:00 PM |
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I guess BFL was told to stop using PayPal to snare new investors!
Or maybe PayPal does not like to be called "fucking PayPal". My guess is that PayPal and ALL the credit card companies FIRED BFL as a customer. Rumor has it that it's the in-thing to do. If only I could recall where I read that. HMMMMMmmmmmmm!!!
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OmegaNemesis28
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August 17, 2013, 09:10:20 PM |
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So someone please find the post from Feb that basically called out BFL for not shipping, told everyone to demand refunds at once, or prepare to be an all fucked until July. Because everything he predicted has now officially come true.
He nailed the fact that they wouldn't ship until mid summer 2013. He nailed the fact that they would ship at a snails pace. He nailed the fact that they would deny refunds. He nailed the fact that they would give people lip on the Web forums and not offer support or information about the shipping procedures. And lastly, he claimed that they would need a new product or upgrade to keep up with the current orders. Which is this.
The whole post has now come true. I wish I book marked it. No one fucking listened. Not even me.
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August 17, 2013, 09:11:39 PM |
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Can these shmucks get a scammer tag now please BCT?
I forgot they will probably give you lots of money to advertise this vaporware on the forum.
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August 17, 2013, 09:13:14 PM |
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So someone please find the post from Feb that basically called out BFL for not shipping, told everyone to demand refunds at once, or prepare to be an all fucked until July. Because everything he predicted has now officially come true.
He nailed the fact that they wouldn't ship until mid summer 2013. He nailed the fact that they would ship at a snails pace. He nailed the fact that they would deny refunds. He nailed the fact that they would give people lip on the Web forums and not offer support or information about the shipping procedures. And lastly, he claimed that they would need a new product or upgrade to keep up with the current orders. Which is this.
The whole post has now come true. I wish I book marked it. No one fucking listened. Not even me.
LOL who was it, i can't exactly recall the name either, but i remember that post. was it oldminer?
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August 17, 2013, 09:13:34 PM |
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ROFL so when everyone transfers their order they will magically catch up on all pre-order shipping by september. Also notice no more credit card option.
BFL never had a chance to get a merchant account with a CC company. PayPal has learned their lesson. To play devils advocate for just a moment: If BFL just does a reference board + firmware and only resells the chips they pay their contractors to design and the fab to produce, then this product might not be the epic trainwrecks of their previous products.
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