PuertoLibre
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 05:50:04 AM |
|
I created my own stats. I am pretty sure Genesis isn't making that good a prediction. But go ahead, if you are sure about it, you and the others sink all your money into 400Gh/s miners. In January 2014, we can talk about this again and compare graphs. Lets see who really was closer to the real numbers. ====================== Either way my friend, you are already locked in. You can't get a refund even if you wanted to from BFL. If the others want to spend $$$ and BTC on hedges I have no problems with it. There is always a finite supply of either in this community. If the companies take it all in and they come out to have a non-workable business model, well its your cash, not mine. You won't get to spend it twice. (I hope) Edit: I would also like to say that even my Avalon running at a significant fraction of 100Gh/s isn't producing very much. Would I be surprised if in January it it barely covering the electricity costs? No? What if I multiply that pittance by 6x? Would it still be worth it by then? That is exactly the package you have got yourself handcuffed to. You are welcome. :p
|
|
|
|
Starlightbreaker
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1006
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 05:50:42 AM |
|
Perhaps that is why you have not seen me mentioning anything about buying miners. I don't know about you, but I am waiting and seeing what develops. If the chart is accurate towards the future...the current 400Gh/s miner will probably experience a hell of a wallop in price.
Keep waiting. The rest of us will do something while you wait. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) like trying to get refunds? waiting for your order to be shipped?
|
|
|
|
PuertoLibre
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 05:54:40 AM |
|
Perhaps as a community we should all start talking about manipulating the BTC difficulty (if it were possible). Possibly with pool operators assisting in the effort.
|
|
|
|
Ytterbium
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 05:58:06 AM |
|
Perhaps as a community we should all start talking about manipulating the BTC difficulty (if it were possible). Possibly with pool operators assisting in the effort.
I don't really see how it would be possible, other then trying to control the flow of ASICs by delaying orders, like BFL has done.
|
|
|
|
🏰 TradeFortress 🏰
Bitcoin Veteran
VIP
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1043
👻
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 06:01:10 AM |
|
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi1.minus.com%2FibavbkcdgTgEM4.PNG&t=665&c=Wm1duJG1wEGHUA) Thoughts?
|
|
|
|
southerngentuk
Sr. Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 1316
Merit: 254
Sugars.zone | DatingFi - Earn for Posting
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 06:04:49 AM |
|
Perhaps as a community we should all start talking about manipulating the BTC difficulty (if it were possible). Possibly with pool operators assisting in the effort.
I don't really see how it would be possible, other then trying to control the flow of ASICs by delaying orders, like BFL has done. Change the protocol Xgh per client per IP Address, or something. Level the playing field for all. I have no idea how to do it thou, but everyone should have equal opportunity with a new currency or we may as well stick with fiat.
|
SUGAR | | | | ██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██ | | | | | | | | | ██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██ | | ███████████████████████████ ███████████████████████████ ██████ ██████ ██████ ▄████▀ ██████ ██████▄▄▄███▀ ▄█ ██████ ██████████▀ ▄███ ██████ ████████▀ ▄█████▄▄▄██████ ██████▀ ▄███████▀▀▀██████ ██████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████ ██████ ██████ ███████████████████████████ ███████████████████████████ | . Backed By ZetaChain | | ██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██ | | | | ██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██ | | | |
|
|
|
qnosh
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 06:08:55 AM |
|
mark .
|
|
|
|
Bitcoinorama
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 06:11:24 AM |
|
mark .
Qnosh, almost all your comments state 'mark', why?!
|
Make my day! Say thanks if you found me helpful ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) BTC Address ---> 1487ThaKjezGA6SiE8fvGcxbgJJu6XWtZp
|
|
|
erk
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 06:13:50 AM |
|
so how many revisions is this shit gonna take?
and are you really competent to design something like this?
haha, probably not...and i can safely assume your estimated power consumption gonna be off as always.
It's kind of funny that people are worried about the technicalities of a product that may never ship. There is talk of a boycott of BFL new products, I presume due to their ongoing failure to do more than a token effort at clearing their 14mth backlog as promised. It will be interesting to see what effect that has on the new product pre-orders.
|
|
|
|
southerngentuk
Sr. Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 1316
Merit: 254
Sugars.zone | DatingFi - Earn for Posting
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 06:18:03 AM |
|
so how many revisions is this shit gonna take?
and are you really competent to design something like this?
haha, probably not...and i can safely assume your estimated power consumption gonna be off as always.
It's kind of funny that people are worried about the technicalities of a product that may never ship. There is talk of a boycott of BFL new products, I presume due to their ongoing failure to do more than a token effort at clearing their 14mth backlog as promised. It will be interesting to see what effect that has on the new product pre-orders. We will never know, BFL don't discuss there order book, can't have people making accurate predictions of when there ponzi will end..
|
SUGAR | | | | ██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██ | | | | | | | | | ██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██ | | ███████████████████████████ ███████████████████████████ ██████ ██████ ██████ ▄████▀ ██████ ██████▄▄▄███▀ ▄█ ██████ ██████████▀ ▄███ ██████ ████████▀ ▄█████▄▄▄██████ ██████▀ ▄███████▀▀▀██████ ██████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████ ██████ ██████ ███████████████████████████ ███████████████████████████ | . Backed By ZetaChain | | ██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██ | | | | ██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██
██ ██ | | | |
|
|
|
YipYip
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 06:18:54 AM |
|
so how many revisions is this shit gonna take?
and are you really competent to design something like this?
haha, probably not...and i can safely assume your estimated power consumption gonna be off as always.
It's kind of funny that people are worried about the technicalities of a product that may never ship. There is talk of a boycott of BFL new products, I presume due to their ongoing failure to do more than a token effort at clearing their 14mth backlog as promised. It will be interesting to see what effect that has on the new product pre-orders. I think they are going to get a large volume of pplz migrating 2013+ order over to this 2014 fantasy with the idea that they swap 1 queue and the idea of being in front of the NEW queue ... At least they know that delivery of 2013+ ordder from BFL is unlikely with a ROI ...so the only choice is to swao to something that has a chance of ROI ... Once again another EVIL FUCKING move by these mother fuckers !! THE LONG CON CONTINUES !!
|
OBJECT NOT FOUND
|
|
|
tolip_wen
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 06:21:28 AM |
|
Who is cherrypicking stats? Your figure would need for the diff increase to be under 25% per jump. That is not the fact. Try plugging in 82% PER MONTH 1+35%+35%=1.8225 That is the current reality. You were getting fucked in the exit orifice before, now you poured sand in the vaselene. You are definately a masochist.
|
'twisted research and opinion' donations happily accepted @ 13362fxFAdrhagmCvSmFy4WoHrNRPG2V57 My sub 1337 vanity address ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
|
|
|
peasant
Sr. Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif) ![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 272
Merit: 250
Cryptopreneur
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 06:27:45 AM |
|
Lets see who bites on the new scheme. Sounds tempting but i have better things to do with my money than gamble on a bad bet. Also I got a few miners pounding out LTC drama free for months now. Please don't fall for this guys. Good luck.
|
|
|
|
Frizz23
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 07:33:56 AM |
|
It's 3:00 AM Paris time, and I do enjoy reading threads usually.
Nasser
Of course you read them not logged it. Smart move. I still believe Jeff Ownby is using this account. One of the mods could easily clarify this (checking the IP from where BFL-Engineer posted this). @BFL-Engineer, would this be OK for you?
|
Ξtherization⚡️First P2E 2016⚡️🏰💎🌈 etherization.org
|
|
|
Unacceptable
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 07:40:04 AM |
|
mark .
Qnosh, almost all your comments state 'mark', why?! I think hes a Trekkie ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
|
"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole." -Raylan Givens Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be"An ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal..."Hashfast & BFL slogan ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
|
|
|
Jason Ling
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 35
Merit: 0
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 07:42:08 AM |
|
Just bought 3 with a 25% discount voucher and the profits I made from my 3 x 60GH BFL SC Singles.
|
|
|
|
po1992one
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 07:45:27 AM |
|
Just bought 3 with a 25% discount voucher and the profits I made from my 3 x 60GH BFL SC Singles.
Wow, you mean preordered, right? Anyway, good luck, seems it might be new form of gambling.
|
|
|
|
PuertoLibre
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 07:46:55 AM |
|
Just bought 3 with a 25% discount voucher and the profits I made from my 3 x 60GH BFL SC Singles.
Wow, you mean preordered, right? Anyway, good luck, seems it might be new form of gambling. Congrats on throwing away money: http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/537ce3e3de
|
|
|
|
Ytterbium
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 07:55:34 AM |
|
Perhaps as a community we should all start talking about manipulating the BTC difficulty (if it were possible). Possibly with pool operators assisting in the effort.
I don't really see how it would be possible, other then trying to control the flow of ASICs by delaying orders, like BFL has done. Change the protocol Xgh per client per IP Address, or something. Level the playing field for all. I have no idea how to do it thou, but everyone should have equal opportunity with a new currency or we may as well stick with fiat. Eventually BTC will be like fiat in that you won't be able to get it for free by mining (except for tiny amounts). Anyway, the problem with your idea is that you can just A) use multiple pools and B) even get multiple IP addresses if pools were to do that. And of course you could solo mine or setup a private pool with other power players.
|
|
|
|
RChevalier
Member
![*](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif)
Offline
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
|
![](https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/post/xx.gif) |
August 18, 2013, 08:01:54 AM |
|
One of the mods could easily clarify this (checking the IP from where BFL-Engineer posted this).
@BFL-Engineer, would this be OK for you?
We don't need to see his IP identification. These aren't the cards we're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along.
|
|
|
|
|