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September 28, 2013, 03:29:47 PM Last edit: May 28, 2014, 05:59:13 AM by hivewallet |
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We're pleased to offer the first release of Hive, a beautiful new wallet for Mac OS X.
Hive was designed to be easy to use, and aims to be an ideal starting point for anyone new to Bitcoin. Hive has the following features: - An attractive, people-oriented interface. - An integrated application platform. - An SPV backend for fast startup. - Tor support for enhanced anonymity. - Support for many languages. - Automatic updates Download it here or check our GitHubHive is powered by a new version of our BitcoinKit.framework, updated with bitcoinj support. App PlatformHive's application platform gives new users a tightly integrated way to discover the best of what's out there: exchanges, merchants, games, and more! Frequently asked questionsQ: Is Hive open source? A: Yes! The GPL-licensed code is available on GitHub. Q: Is Hive available in languages other than English? A: Yes! Quite a number of them already, as you can see from this forum post. Q: Is it really safe for novices to use, right now? A: We think so, and we are using it on a day-to-day basis with real Bitcoin ourselves. Q: How can I build an app for Hive? A: Please see this forum post. Q: Will you support Windows or Linux? A: Not unless an exceptional developer steps up. Please contact us if you have the skills and would like to be involved! Q: Will you support Android or iOS? A: Yes to Android, native iOS support is probably off the table due to Apple's general despotism. Try hive-js for an alternative. Q: How do you make money? A: Our plan is to take very small fees for transactions that happen within non-charity apps in the App Platform. At present this is not implemented.
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 28, 2013, 03:34:14 PM |
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September 28, 2013, 03:51:16 PM |
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September 28, 2013, 03:55:09 PM |
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Nice.
Does that require bitcoind? BitcoinKit seems to require it.
Edit: and also, does it require homebrew?
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Yeah, well, I'm gonna go build my own blockchain. With blackjack and hookers! In fact forget the blockchain.
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 28, 2013, 03:57:30 PM |
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BitcoinKit also supports bitcoinj now, and that's what we're using. We have some work to do with integrating a VM (so users don't have to download one), but once that is in place it is fully functional as an SPV node.
Edit: No, it does not require Homebrew. Props to the Homebrew developers for making Hive easier to build though!
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September 28, 2013, 04:55:48 PM |
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Looks great I'm looking for a new wallet to use now the blockchain is too big for me to store anymore. I think I'll go with multibit or electrum for now though until this has had more bug testing done, but it's looking good!
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 28, 2013, 05:12:17 PM |
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Looks great I'm looking for a new wallet to use now the blockchain is too big for me to store anymore. I think I'll go with multibit or electrum for now though until this has had more bug testing done, but it's looking good! Thank you for saying so! We would definitely recommend Electrum and MultiBit, which are both excellent light wallets. Please feel free to give us a try in a few months though; everything should be much smoother and safer then. ;-)
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September 28, 2013, 05:22:31 PM |
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Looks awesome! Will surely try this one as soon as it's a bit more stable.
Nice work!
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I am an evangelical missionary heading to China. Donations are welcome here (dedicated wallet): 1H8iswayfTaRb6oe2WjMCRmchBJHYyfx9z You can find more information about my plans here: http://btcmission.com
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September 28, 2013, 05:23:34 PM |
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Wow, this looks great
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September 28, 2013, 07:04:36 PM |
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Looks nice.
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September 28, 2013, 07:54:33 PM |
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Beautiful design.
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Supporting people with beautiful creative ideas. Bitcoin is because of the developers,exchanges,merchants,miners,investors,users,machines and blockchain technologies work together.
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September 28, 2013, 08:01:28 PM |
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Brillant and beautiful design!
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September 28, 2013, 08:05:12 PM |
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I unzipped and ran it, but the apps window was completely empty ...
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September 28, 2013, 08:33:49 PM |
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wow it looks really good! Double thumbs up. now all you gotta do is to just integrate it with Facebook PS: Apps page blank - OSX 10.7
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 28, 2013, 08:36:51 PM |
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Brillant and beautiful design! Thanks very much everyone.
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 28, 2013, 08:38:44 PM Last edit: September 28, 2013, 09:02:10 PM by grabhive |
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I unzipped and ran it, but the apps window was completely empty ...
Sorry about that, we're actually uploading a new build right now that has some apps packed in (as well as a working auto-updater). It should be ready to go in about 15 minutes. Edit: Uploaded.
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September 28, 2013, 09:40:07 PM |
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This app has a lot of potential. Definitely watching this. Good luck.
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September 28, 2013, 10:06:00 PM |
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Downloaded again. Still blank. Actually every tab except the last is blank.
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September 28, 2013, 10:07:53 PM |
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Looks really nice. Hope that exceptional developer steps up and makes it for Windows
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 28, 2013, 10:34:21 PM |
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Downloaded again. Still blank. Actually every tab except the last is blank.
Mike, try deleting ~/Library/Preferences/com.grabhive.Hive.plist and re-running Hive. As far as those other tabs go, they're blank presumably because you haven't added any contacts or made any transactions yet. To help users understand that, we're going to add screens like this:
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markjamrobin
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September 28, 2013, 11:01:44 PM |
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This looks awesome, I will have to try it out!
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September 28, 2013, 11:06:59 PM |
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Finally a great looking wallet for Mac users. Looking forward to see this evolving!
When opening the app the first time, it's not really clear what each sub page is doing. A short one-sentence description on each page would be great.
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September 29, 2013, 01:37:39 AM |
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Any plans for Litecoin support?
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markjamrobin
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September 29, 2013, 01:41:18 AM |
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Any plans for Litecoin support?
How much work would it be to change to the litecoin protocol?
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September 29, 2013, 01:41:27 AM |
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That looks great. An easy to use OS X wallet could go a long way to helping spread adoption. Look forward to seeing more apps added
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September 29, 2013, 01:43:17 AM |
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Very cool, great job guys!
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September 29, 2013, 05:01:36 AM |
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Nothing to say except .... get it finished and I'll use it Great modern looking app. Well done. Hurry along now
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 29, 2013, 05:44:28 AM |
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Any plans for Litecoin support?
How much work would it be to change to the litecoin protocol? Adding Litecoin support would be awesome, and we want to do it. In fact, we spoke with Charles here in Amsterdam about that very topic. Charles said that 'bitcoinj' for Litecoin is presently in development. So, once that is released, it will be fairly trivial for us to add support... And indeed, such support is theoretically possible even earlier: BitcoinKit supports bitcoind, so if someone were to modify that to support litecoind (seems trivial to me), a Litecoin version could be released. We probably won't do it anytime soon because of so much other stuff we need to get to, but this is all on our radar. If you want to get a head start, how about sending us a very motivating pull request? ;-)
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 29, 2013, 05:47:52 AM |
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Finally a great looking wallet for Mac users. Looking forward to see this evolving!
When opening the app the first time, it's not really clear what each sub page is doing. A short one-sentence description on each page would be great.
Several people have mentioned this. Probably we can just modify these a little, to add more description about the page/tab itself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304060.msg3257314#msg3257314So for example, perhaps: "This is where you make transactions. It looks like you haven't made any yet, so click here to send some Bitcoin" What do you think?
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 29, 2013, 05:50:22 AM Last edit: October 31, 2013, 06:23:06 PM by grabhive |
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A word of warning:Be careful with the MineField app, as we have reports of people losing money in it (as in, not even being able to play). We will be pulling it from the build shortly, until we get that resolved. An issue has been created here: https://github.com/hivewallet/hiveapp-minefield/issues/1
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September 29, 2013, 07:10:57 AM |
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Finally a great looking wallet for Mac users. Looking forward to see this evolving!
When opening the app the first time, it's not really clear what each sub page is doing. A short one-sentence description on each page would be great.
Several people have mentioned this. Probably we can just modify these a little, to add more description about the page/tab itself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304060.msg3257314#msg3257314So for example, perhaps: "This is where you make transactions. It looks like you haven't made any yet, so click here to send some Bitcoin" What do you think? Great, that would definitely improve user experience in my opinion.
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September 29, 2013, 09:05:30 AM |
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good job guys. I wish you had a feature where it gave us a running conversion in whatever currency we choose just to confirm our amounts. I had a friend accidently send out over 20 btc because he wasn't paying attention to his decimal points and I think that kind of clarity is going to be needed for the average user.
thanks!
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 29, 2013, 10:31:06 AM |
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good job guys. I wish you had a feature where it gave us a running conversion in whatever currency we choose just to confirm our amounts. I had a friend accidently send out over 20 btc because he wasn't paying attention to his decimal points and I think that kind of clarity is going to be needed for the average user.
thanks!
You my friend are a sage. We have already built this feature and it is going to be added to production soon (needs a bit of UI work). Right now it pulls from Mt.Gox rates; will that be alright?
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September 29, 2013, 11:00:02 AM |
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Unfortunately even after deleting the prefs and restarting, I still don't see any apps. I did successfully receive a transation though, so it's working. Mt Gox is currently skewed significantly from every other rate. There is a library called Xchange which is what MultiBit uses. Alternatively BitPay export their blended rates: https://bitpay.com/api/ratesIt'd be great to have some support for exchange rates in bitcoinj if anyone wants to contribute.
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September 29, 2013, 01:35:32 PM |
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It is beautiful. Great wallet!
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September 29, 2013, 04:45:37 PM |
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Glad to see developers paying attention to us Mac users. I think Hive is beautiful and very promising.
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September 29, 2013, 04:52:06 PM |
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Glad to see developers paying attention to us Mac users. I think Hive is beautiful and very promising.
I know, I felt abused as a mac user. Is there a ticker that works on 10.6.8 yet? I don't want to upgrade.
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 29, 2013, 05:09:54 PM |
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Glad to see developers paying attention to us Mac users. I think Hive is beautiful and very promising.
I know, I felt abused as a mac user. Is there a ticker that works on 10.6.8 yet? I don't want to upgrade. Doesn't this one? https://github.com/dgarrett/BTCPriceI'm sorry that I couldn't test it myself, I have no 10.6 machines around.
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September 29, 2013, 05:35:10 PM |
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Glad to see developers paying attention to us Mac users. I think Hive is beautiful and very promising.
I know, I felt abused as a mac user. Is there a ticker that works on 10.6.8 yet? I don't want to upgrade. Doesn't this one? https://github.com/dgarrett/BTCPriceI'm sorry that I couldn't test it myself, I have no 10.6 machines around. I can't get it to work, causes a seg fault.
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September 29, 2013, 06:24:21 PM |
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This client looks absolutely amazing, and it's a job well done. Shame that it's Mac OS X only, though. Some of the features that this wallet has would be pretty useful to me.
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hivewallet (OP)
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September 29, 2013, 08:40:10 PM |
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This client looks absolutely amazing, and it's a job well done. Shame that it's Mac OS X only, though. Some of the features that this wallet has would be pretty useful to me. Thank you very much indeed. May I ask which features you mean? And which platform are you most interested in having Hive on, ultimately?
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September 29, 2013, 08:50:57 PM |
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This client looks absolutely amazing, and it's a job well done. Shame that it's Mac OS X only, though. Some of the features that this wallet has would be pretty useful to me. Thank you very much indeed. May I ask which features you mean? And which platform are you most interested in having Hive on, ultimately? The apps feature and the exchanges feature. A way to buy and sell Bitcoin within a wallet would be amazing, and the apps would make a lot of things easy also. Ultimately, Windows. I think that if Hive was also made for Windows, you'd probably get a lot more users.
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September 30, 2013, 01:02:58 AM |
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I unzipped and ran it, but the apps window was completely empty ...
You're right, there's something very wrong there - I've noticed the apps actually get installed into Hive, but their icons are invisible and they don't seem to load when you click them. We've only added the preinstalling very recently, we might have broken something there... I've added a ticket for this: https://github.com/grabhive/hive-osx/issues/25.
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October 01, 2013, 03:45:08 PM |
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I fixed some problems with apps today - if your apps list was empty before, please download the latest version from the site, delete the preferences file again and tell me if it works now.
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October 02, 2013, 01:04:16 PM |
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I thought of having apps as part of a wallet system before. It's a good idea. I'll have to give this a look at sometime later.
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hivewallet (OP)
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October 07, 2013, 06:35:42 AM Last edit: October 31, 2013, 06:23:49 PM by grabhive |
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We made some updates while bitcointalk was down. - editing personal profiles
- nicer 'blank' views for contacts list and transactions list views
- adding new transactions at the top of the list
- address validation and better error handling in send window
- fixed moving between contact form fields with the Tab key
- fixed some error handling in apps
- updating app icon immediately after installing a new version
- fixed Sparkle updater problems
The latest release can always be downloaded here: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/releases
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October 07, 2013, 05:53:38 PM |
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Hands down the most attractive wallet in existence. I see this going a long way, especially with app integration. This could be the ultimate hub for bitcoin shopping with simple integration of something similar to https://all4btc.com/ Best of luck with the project, I strongly suggest porting it to windows/iPhone as well.
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October 08, 2013, 10:46:38 AM |
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Definitely Hive will be a path opener. The Applications inside are a great concept and looking forward to see BitsPoker on a screenshot of the App menu!
Kudos for the developers on doing an excellent job!
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October 09, 2013, 10:15:05 AM |
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I offer 500 ltc for a small open source portable litecoin client with some optimized features, as used in electrum (e.g. freeze, prioritize, delete addresses, etc.)
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hivewallet (OP)
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October 09, 2013, 10:21:43 AM |
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I offer 500 ltc for a small open source portable litecoin client with some optimized features, as used in electrum (e.g. freeze, prioritize, delete addresses, etc.)
Hi adamas, As per our post here, we would absolutely love to add Litecoin support to Hive. However, I think you're asking for the very thing we need (a lightweight/SPV backend), which we unfortunately won't have the time to build ourselves. I recommend that you contact the Litecoin team and push for the furthered development of "litecoinj" (based on bitcoinj).
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October 09, 2013, 10:22:39 AM |
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Hi adamas, As per our post here, we would absolutely love to add Litecoin support to Hive. However, I think you're asking for the very thing we need (a lightweight/SPV backend), which we unfortunately won't have the time to build ourselves. I recommend that you contact the Litecoin team and push for the furthered development of "litecoinj" (based on bitcoinj). Thanks
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hivewallet (OP)
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October 09, 2013, 04:49:30 PM |
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Added a link to the CoinMap service in the Hive menu. This will be released to production on Monday and closes this issue.
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October 10, 2013, 03:27:01 PM |
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News from the front: you can now add/edit avatars for contacts and for your own profile. There are two ways: either drag & drop an image from somewhere (e.g. from Finder) into the avatar box, or just click on the box and select an image in the dialog that appears.
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October 11, 2013, 01:14:45 PM |
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I hope a similar wallet gets ported to windows soon, it looks great!
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October 12, 2013, 05:57:33 AM |
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Enjoying the screenshots. Shaping up really nice! Keep pushing the envelope.
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October 12, 2013, 07:02:20 AM |
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Wow, that looks great. I may steal some of your design ideas for my new client.
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hivewallet (OP)
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October 12, 2013, 08:51:52 AM |
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Wow, that looks great. I may steal some of your design ideas for my new client.
Well, if you are designing a wallet for Windows, perhaps get in touch with us?
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October 13, 2013, 12:59:50 AM |
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i gotta say again man, this is the most beautiful client i have seen so far. It will be real good for the masses to adopt! A few Qs -
1) Any security features?
2) Integration with blockchain.info/Gliph?
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October 14, 2013, 08:07:17 AM Last edit: October 14, 2013, 08:34:56 AM by grabhive |
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i gotta say again man, this is the most beautiful client i have seen so far. It will be real good for the masses to adopt! A few Qs -
1) Any security features?
2) Integration with blockchain.info/Gliph?
KSV, thank you so much. To answer your questions, we do have a lot of nice security features coming in the next few months, but at the moment the security is very sparse -- and that's one of the reasons we're not advocating Hive for day-to-day use yet. Keep your eye on our open issues for details. Regarding Blockchain integration, we will be adding some click-through links for addresses for sure, and hopefully soon we can take a stab at remote wallet integration (so you can keep your wallet file there rather than locally on your computer) as well. As always, please feel free to send us a pull request and we'll get it done even faster.
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October 14, 2013, 09:28:42 AM |
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can't install it .. error no mountable file systems
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October 14, 2013, 09:34:39 AM |
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can't install it .. error no mountable file systems
I think this happens when the .dmg file isn't downloaded correctly, try downloading it again. Anyway, we've just released a new version at this very moment, so you should download the new dmg anyway (it should be named "Hive-2013101401.dmg"). If you can't get it to work, try with a .zip, all the binaries are available here (latest always on top): https://github.com/grabhive/hive-osx/releases
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October 14, 2013, 10:03:20 AM |
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ok .zip works - thx
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October 14, 2013, 11:26:05 AM Last edit: October 31, 2013, 06:25:01 PM by grabhive |
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Release 2013101401 now available!- editing avatars by drag&drop and using an open file dialog
- added keyboard navigation and improved mouse navigation in the autocomplete list in send window
- added CoinMap link to the menu
- added Sean’s Outpost app
- bundled apps are installed/updated every time Hive is updated
- added blue higlight in the address box when copying address to clipboard
- update window title after editing contact name
- update contact entry on the list after editing contact name
- moved contact info panel to the left and transaction panel to the right
- swapped address caption and hash fields in address edit box
- automatically focus on new address after adding a new address field in contact form
- removed unused search button from contacts
- fixed an issue with deleting wallets when SPV data file is missing
- fixed UI issue in autocomplete list (list getting detached from the send window)
- fixed UI issue in the breadcrumbs bar when window is made inactive
The latest release can always be downloaded here: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/releases
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October 14, 2013, 12:25:49 PM |
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Nice user interface, best one i have seen. Gonna get my mac and try it...
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October 14, 2013, 05:14:14 PM |
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Promising App! Keep up the good work!
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October 14, 2013, 06:02:46 PM |
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Any chance of providing a download in App Store? The App Store℠ has over 500 million active accounts.
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Nice user interface, best one i have seen. Gonna get my mac and try it...
Thanks you very much, please let us know what you think! Promising App! Keep up the good work!
Thank you indeed! Any chance of providing a download in App Store? The App Store℠ has over 500 million active accounts.
We will try to make a submission once we're stable... Based on precedent it does however seem unlikely that Hive would be accepted. Still, keep your fingers crossed!
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Any chance of providing a download in App Store? The App Store℠ has over 500 million active accounts.
We will try to make a submission once we're stable... However, based on precedent it does seem unlikely that Hive would be accepted. Keep your fingers crossed though! That said, we will try to get into the Developer Program to at least be able to sign the app with Apple's certificate to make GateKeeper happy - we're hoping they won't have anything against that...
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GateKeeper certificates are different to app store certs. The only terms attached to one is basically "don't distribute malware".
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October 15, 2013, 12:53:34 PM Last edit: October 31, 2013, 06:25:24 PM by grabhive |
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October 16, 2013, 09:50:12 AM Last edit: October 28, 2013, 10:21:02 AM by grabhive |
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A French translation of Hive is now ready! ( discussion thread here) Changeset here. Special thanks to Barnabé Hafner! There are some small UI bugs that we'll have to work out, but otherwise we think it looks good!
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October 16, 2013, 11:50:29 AM Last edit: October 31, 2013, 06:25:39 PM by grabhive |
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An Italian translation of Hive is now ready! ( discussion thread here) Changeset here. Special thanks to Nicolò Maria Lazzarin! Looks great!
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October 18, 2013, 11:22:57 PM |
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I like it so far!!
One feature I would like is QR codes for the addresses like what you get with blockchain's wallet. It makes it easier to transfer money from a mobile device based wallet.
In the meantime I'm going to play around with a the app API this weekend!
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Observing post also neat idea
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October 21, 2013, 12:35:56 PM Last edit: October 31, 2013, 06:27:38 PM by grabhive |
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I like it so far!!
One feature I would like is QR codes for the addresses like what you get with blockchain's wallet. It makes it easier to transfer money from a mobile device based wallet.
In the meantime I'm going to play around with a the app API this weekend!
Thanks for the suggestion! If you wouldn't mind, please describe the feature request in a GitHub issue: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/issues?state=openMockups are also helpful! We'll review and, if the solution seems like something user-friendly, we'll work on it with you! Good luck with the API, please let us know if you have any questions!
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October 21, 2013, 01:58:23 PM |
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Looks nice I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread. Will it function with the upcoming OS Mavericks?
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October 21, 2013, 02:03:41 PM |
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Will it function with the upcoming OS Mavericks?
To be honest we're not 100% sure, we don't have access to the Mac Developer Program yet. We're building the app on the latest Xcode now (5.0) but against the 10.8 SDK. We'll test it on Mavericks as soon as we can.
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October 21, 2013, 04:20:56 PM |
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Ok, we have information from good sources that Hive apparently works just fine on Mavericks
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October 22, 2013, 02:48:09 PM |
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Ok, we have information from good sources that Hive apparently works just fine on Mavericks Woo!
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October 26, 2013, 12:24:56 PM Last edit: October 31, 2013, 06:27:19 PM by grabhive |
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A Tagalog translation of Hive is now ready!Changeset here. Special thanks to Umbrel!
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October 26, 2013, 12:45:32 PM |
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This App makes me wish I had a MACOS.
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October 26, 2013, 01:24:06 PM |
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This App makes me wish I had a MACOS.
Thank you very much. By the way, if you know any great Windows or Linux developers, please let them know that we'd like to make ports to those platforms as well.
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Damn, thats soooo sexy! I really wish I had a mac right now! I hope a developer can port it to windows!
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This very nice
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We should start to think about a roadmap to get this onto the bitcoin.org choose your wallet page.
What features do you feel you need before that's feasible? Are you upgraded to the latest bitcoinj yet?
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We should start to think about a roadmap to get this onto the bitcoin.org choose your wallet page.
What features do you feel you need before that's feasible? Are you upgraded to the latest bitcoinj yet?
Good timing on that question actually, we literally just wrote the MultiBit guys to ask the very same thing. Once we have wallet encryption in place, and a reasonable way to capture and parse the bitcoinj console logs (both of those are in progress right now and should take a few more weeks to complete), we probably have a minimum viable candidate for a bitcoin.org listing. That said, it would behoove us to sign a binary with Apple's Developer ID, too, for user convenience. We will be updating bitcoinj soon, but it hasn't happened just yet.
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Right. Some form of auto update is also a must, but I think you already did that.
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October 28, 2013, 02:09:19 PM Last edit: October 28, 2013, 02:25:56 PM by grabhive |
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Right. Some form of auto update is also a must, but I think you already did that.
Indeed, we're using Sparkle, and right now there's an update pushed to it about once per week. Obviously we'll be slowing that down and putting it into stable/bleeding edge channels once things are more stable.
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October 28, 2013, 02:17:20 PM |
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Wow, you are constantly releasing different languages. Are you using some translation software or are people doing it by hand for you?
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October 28, 2013, 02:18:41 PM |
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Wow, you are constantly releasing different languages. Are you using some translation software or are people doing it by hand for you?
People are doing it for us. We had a flurry of activity over the weekend and are just getting caught up!
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I offer 500 ltc for a small open source portable litecoin client with some optimized features, as used in electrum (e.g. freeze, prioritize, delete addresses, etc.)
Hi adamas, As per our post here, we would absolutely love to add Litecoin support to Hive. However, I think you're asking for the very thing we need (a lightweight/SPV backend), which we unfortunately won't have the time to build ourselves. I recommend that you contact the Litecoin team and push for the furthered development of "litecoinj" (based on bitcoinj). Adamas, You'll be glad to know that I've spoken with Adrian Gallagher recently, and it seems that "litecoinj" is going to be ready quite soon. Adrian also seems quite supportive of Hive, so hopefully we can get a branch going quickly.
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Hi adamas, As per our post here, we would absolutely love to add Litecoin support to Hive. However, I think you're asking for the very thing we need (a lightweight/SPV backend), which we unfortunately won't have the time to build ourselves. I recommend that you contact the Litecoin team and push for the furthered development of "litecoinj" (based on bitcoinj). Adamas, You'll be glad to know that I've spoken with Adrian Gallagher recently, and it seems that "litecoinj" is going to be ready quite soon. Adrian also seems quite supportive of Hive, so hopefully we can get a branch going quickly. Great news. Thanks! I will support the litecoin dev team with some donations.
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October 29, 2013, 06:50:52 PM |
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Sorry for off-top: Mobile Hive iOS (HD) app + CoinMap+LocalBitcoin+Offline maps+ location-based social networking it will be very useful. Something like this. http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/28/what-now-travel-disrupt-europe-battlefield/
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October 29, 2013, 07:14:40 PM |
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Very interesting idea. Would you like to help us build it?
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October 31, 2013, 06:22:28 PM |
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Hey grabhive. I want to let you know that I have emailed you.
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October 31, 2013, 06:28:42 PM |
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Hey grabhive. I want to let you know that I have emailed you.
See it now, will respond shortly!
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October 31, 2013, 07:13:34 PM |
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What is Kwota in Poland lol
i respect your work,power,time,wasting your energy what you put in your project
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This be translation launge Rusia?
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October 31, 2013, 07:27:28 PM |
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Any plans for Litecoin support?
How much work would it be to change to the litecoin protocol? Just opened a discussion about Litecoin support over here: https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,6652How fast this goes is really up to you guys. If you can drum up big support for it in your community then we'll be pretty motivated.
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An interesting proposition by Amir Taaki about merging Electrum, Hive and libbitcoin/obelisk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=322483.0;allAll 3 of these projects are lacking things that we each have. The server part of the libbitcoin stack is well developed, but we're still working towards client-side software for managing wallets. I was very impressed by Thomas' presentation about how he's turning Electrum into a framework. However the backend for Electrum is lacking, and also the servers are unreliable. We have built the client side libraries ( Pablo's pure Python ZeroMQ + Pablo's obelisk-client + Vitalik's Pybtctools + Robert's BlockAlchemy). This removes any need for dependencies (pure Python) and can easily be deployed on Android (through Kivy). I'm imagine a core on the desktop with an API over sockets that can only be called on localhost (although maybe do something else). Exchange the Electrum interface and start using the new library (move Electrum code over to it too, and provide a nice API). Hive is even further in front of the user. The Electrum user interfaces suck (despite the technology being very good). And they're really thinking on different things. If we have a separate Python core with a socket, then it's possible to integrate with their C#. They already have their server backend and Electrum has one too, and so no point us all duplicating the same work when I've been doing backend/impl stuff for ages.
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You definitely want to post such crash reports to your servers automatically.
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November 02, 2013, 12:09:55 PM |
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You definitely want to post such crash reports to your servers automatically.
Rather than being 100% automatic, we were thinking about following Apple's pattern with a button-- "Send this to us". On the other hand, it's probably better for the quality of the software long-term to enforce the sending of logs. We could make it an enabled-by-default option that can be unticked in the preferences?
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You definitely want to post such crash reports to your servers automatically.
Rather than being 100% automatic, we were thinking about following Apple's pattern with a button-- "Send this to us". On the other hand, it's probably better for the quality of the software long-term to enforce the sending of logs. We could make it an enabled-by-default option that can be unticked in the preferences? Yeah that would probably be better!
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Yeah, I tend to try and avoid constantly asking the user to make trivial technical decisions like that ... a good question to ask would be "why would I say no to this?". If you're worried about IP addresses and privacy, bear in mind, you don't have any reliable way to force a crash and the user downloaded the software from you anyway.
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We should start to think about a roadmap to get this onto the bitcoin.org choose your wallet page.
I would really like a beautiful Mac Os X app like this one to make it on bitcoin.org . Three questions: Auto-updateAuto-update can be a controversial feature. I expressed the same reservation about Bitcoin Wallet for Android, as efficient update mechanisms can allow one developer to efficiently issue malicious updates ( it can be against their will ). So there's a similar level of trust needed here than with a centralized service. So I was wondering if Sparkle allows users to refuse updates, or if everything is done in the background without user's consent. If you have some mechanisms that allow updates to be deployed progressively, etc. In the worst case scenario, a little warning box similar to the one of blockchain.info & electrum could be used, so this isn't a blocking issue. From addressesI see that the GUI shows parts of the From: Bitcoin addresses. Are these "clickable"? Generally speaking, the consensus seems to be that allowing users to (easily) see and use "From addresses" doesn't make sense, as users shouldn't be tempted to send money to these addresses (and lose money if these addresses are no longer owned by anyone). Testing / maturityPerhaps it would be good to wait until Hive is stable, and has been used by many users for at least one month to be sure the app is working correctly? I think no other app or service on bitcoin.org has been pushed until it had some history behind it. -- Also as a more general thought, while very friendly, I don't know if "address books" are likely to make sense in the future. In general, reusing addresses is discouraged both for privacy and security reasons. However, concretely, most wallets still have address books and generally are poorly designed to provide a friendly alternative. Perhaps that the future will only be "clickable / scannable / wireless" payment requests, or some kind of "deterministic changing addresses", or maybe some wallets will just keep using address books, I don't know.
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November 03, 2013, 10:46:07 PM |
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Auto-update
Auto-update can be a controversial feature. I expressed the same reservation about Bitcoin Wallet for Android, as efficient update mechanisms can allow one developer to efficiently issue malicious updates ( it can be against their will ). So there's a similar level of trust needed here than with a centralized service.
So I was wondering if Sparkle allows users to refuse updates, or if everything is done in the background without user's consent. If you have some mechanisms that allow updates to be deployed progressively, etc.
In the worst case scenario, a little warning box similar to the one of blockchain.info & electrum could be used, so this isn't a blocking issue.
Sparkle does allow users to refuse updates, but unless the attacker was especially careless, the average user would never be able to tell the difference between a malicious update and a legitimate one anyway. The truth is, we need more information. We've read about Evilgrade and other such exploits, but this is by no means an area of expertise of the present team. The benefits of auto-update are very great indeed, so let's figure this out together. From addresses
I see that the GUI shows parts of the From: Bitcoin addresses. Are these "clickable"? Generally speaking, the consensus seems to be that allowing users to (easily) see and use "From addresses" doesn't make sense, as users shouldn't be tempted to send money to these addresses (and lose money if these addresses are no longer owned by anyone).
They are not clickable. There was a consideration for them to work as you describe, but then we read the same stuff you probably read and came to the same conclusions. Testing / maturity
Perhaps it would be good to wait until Hive is stable, and has been used by many users for at least one month to be sure the app is working correctly? I think no other app or service on bitcoin.org has been pushed until it had some history behind it.
We couldn't agree more. Also as a more general thought, while very friendly, I don't know if "address books" are likely to make sense in the future. In general, reusing addresses is discouraged both for privacy and security reasons. However, concretely, most wallets still have address books and generally are poorly designed to provide a friendly alternative. Perhaps that the future will only be "clickable / scannable / wireless" payment requests, or some kind of "deterministic changing addresses", or maybe some wallets will just keep using address books, I don't know.
Perhaps you are right, but we are probably not going to blaze that particular trail ourselves. We feel that what we have provided is appropriate for the time being, but if patterns and best practices change, we will be right there with all of you. Thanks for your interest and kind words, blockgenesis!
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Sparkle does allow users to refuse updates, but unless the attacker was especially careless, the average user would never be able to tell the difference between a malicious update and a legitimate one anyway.
The truth is, we need more information. We've read about Evilgrade and other such exploits, but this is by no means an area of expertise of the present team. The benefits of auto-update are very great indeed, so let's figure this out together.
I am no Bitcoin developper myself and have almost no experience with Mac OS X, so I wish I could be of a better help. FWIW, Bitcoin-Qt developers seem to prefer using a slower / voluntary update system to reduce the risk of one developer being treatened to push a malicious update. So to some extend, it both protects users and developers (it might make more sense with Bitcoin-Qt due ot its very large users' base). On the other hand, fast updates rollout can be especially useful in emergency cases like the SecureRandom Android bug. Perhaps there's an interesting "in-between" here, to let a certain delay for a malicious update to be denounced before it causes too much damages, while not being too slow and inefficient.. Perhaps Mike have some experience here and can share some thoughts. All in all, thank you very much for your work on Hive. I think a lot of people were waiting for it, and I'm glad you receive help with translations. I'll keep watching this thread and make a pull req to add Hive on bitcoin.org when it will be appropriate.
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The right way to do auto-update of wallet software is threshold signing (i.e. a bunch of developers audit each others code by watching source control, reproduce each other builds, and cross-sign the binaries). I am not aware of any other apps that do all of these things together - we'd be breaking new ground by implementing it.
Until then I think auto update + being very very careful is better than simply pushing the responsibility onto the user, which is (as pointed out above) unreasonable because they can't tell the difference between a good and bad update.
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One nasty issue with auto-update is the unknown, but worrying, legal environment around court-ordered seizures. We've already seen one from of auto-update being used to seize funds when OzCoin was hacked and had 923BTC stolen and deposited in a StrongCoin wallet. The StrongCoin architecture is such that the operators of the service have no access to your private keys, however they were still able to seize the stolen funds themselves because the thief's webbrowser fetched a new copy of the JavaScript sourcecode, in effect auto-updating the software on demand. This modified code recognized the addresses the thief had placed the Bitcoins in, and the next time the thief used their wallet, thus decrypting the secret keys, a transaction was created by the modified code to return the funds to their original owners.
It is believed that StrongCoin did this freely, but we can't be sure - remember that in the the US and other countries courts have the ability to order you to take actions such as the above against your will, and you can be forced to stay remain silent about the fact that you have done so. (e.g. Lavabit)
By adding auto-update features to the their software wallet authors should recognize that they make it more likely for themselves to be forced into these very undesirable situations. You might be forced to lie to your users, even your family members and lawyers. (in the US a NSL court order can prevent you from discussing the fact that you've received such a court order or its contents with your lawyer)
Of course, not having an auto-update feature isn't a perfect solution either: it's easy to imagine being forced to add one so that a later version of your software can use the auto-update feature to recover funds or transaction history.
I wouldn't want to put myself in this situation, so I wouldn't include auto-update functionality at all. But if you do choose to do so anyway, you can mitigate the risk with threshhold signatures requiring the co-operation of multiple developers. You can also make sure that such deception will be at least noticed, especially deception where the modified client is only distributed to a subset of users, by having your software only accept updates if the fact that an update has occurred has been published in the Bitcoin blockchain. Also use deterministic builds, so that an update without corresponding source code is suspicious.
Finally you should take measures to ensure that users of your software can't be identified directly. StrongCoin was found because every StrongCoin transaction includes a small fee paid to the developers, a serious privacy breach. SPV clients however have another problem, which is that they reveal a great deal of version info to their peers, information that encourages entities to sybil the network to collect that information, for instance what was the version string of the SPV node that distributed a transaction. Given this risk wallets should always use a fixed version with the minimum possible information. If this practice does not catch on, use the version strings of other wallet software.
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That's the point of threshold signing. If the developers are spread across multiple jurisdictions, then the number of people who need to be court-ordered goes up, so a single rogue court or country can't start arbitrarily stealing money.
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That's the point of threshold signing. If the developers are spread across multiple jurisdictions, then the number of people who need to be court-ordered goes up, so a single rogue court or country can't start arbitrarily stealing money.
1) Requires multiple developers in different jurisdictions. 2) Do you want to get yourself in a situation where your European counter-parts might find themselves unable to ever visit the US again? (or vice-versa) Myself I have family in two jurisdictions, and it's very expensive to avoid passing through the US to visit one of those jurisdictions. It's better for everyone in this community if can honestly tell courts that any deceptive code snuck into the software we right is almost certainly going to be detected before it reaches the target, or at least after the fact. Not having auto-updates at all is a very effective way of achieving that, and if you must, use all the other measures I suggested. Speaking of, in addition to my three suggestions, here's a fourth: Have updates happen by downloading the actual source-code to the client and either compiling it locally, or running it directly. (interpreted languages like Python make this really easy) This works particularly well with my suggestion of forcing the fact that an update has happened be made public by publishing that fact in the blockchain - for instance updates could be triggered by publishing a URL and SHA256 hash, making it likely that someone unrelated to the target will get that source-code, notice the court-mandated code, and tell the world. Meanwhile removing this feature will be suspicious in of itself.
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Yes, it requires people in multiple jurisdictions. As it happens we have developers spread around the world - one of the benefits of the open source model.
The assumption that no auto updates means better chance of detection is poor. Users run binaries, end of story. If they're having to manually download new versions themselves then a court can easily order you to adjust your server such that the correct binary is served to all users except for people connecting from the IP address known to be used by the guy they want to whack. The user will never even realise because users also don't check signatures themselves.
A good auto update scheme is if anything more robust, because it automates work users SHOULD do but in reality don't. If you have developers in jurisdictions that don't like each other (e.g. Russia and America) then it means if all parties co-operate, the chances that there's a legitimately good reason for it goes up a lot.
Anyway, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that obsolete and buggy versions are a much greater risk to 99.9% of all users than court-ordered software back doors.
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A good auto update scheme is if anything more robust, because it automates work users SHOULD do but in reality don't. If you have developers in jurisdictions that don't like each other (e.g. Russia and America) then it means if all parties co-operate, the chances that there's a legitimately good reason for it goes up a lot.
So, for the record, for a "legitimately good reason" would you add code to, say, bitcoinj to take stolen Bitcoins and return them to their original owner? Anyway, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that obsolete and buggy versions are a much greater risk to 99.9% of all users than court-ordered software back doors.
I agree. That's why my advice is intended to reduce the risk not for users, but to reduce the risk for the people maintaining wallet software. That's why I gave a whole bunch of suggestions for how to better manage that legal risk, above and beyond simple threshold signing, if you do choose to take on that personal risk and make auto-updates possible. Anyway, government aside, I'd definitely not want to make it possible for some gang to take myself and however many other developers hostage in a co-ordinated attack just to force us to release an update to steal users' coins and quickly make those criminals tens of thousands of dollars if not more. There just isn't much other software out there that makes that kind of criminal act so directly profitable.
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Changing a library isn't really a great way to seize coins, is it? Even if it were possible to implement that, which it's not, the answer is "only if forced to by a court order" which I assume is true for all software developers. I think the developer gets hacked scenario is much more likely than physical kidnap or whatever, but as the stakes rise, so does the need for security. In the long run I'd like to see update keys be sent to fully anonymous developers who can't be found by anyone, but still have an established reputation for doing coding and review work. Such people are rare, though. We need Satoshi back
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Changing a library isn't really a great way to seize coins, is it? Even if it were possible to implement that, which it's not, the answer is "only if forced to by a court order" which I assume is true for all software developers.
Good to hear. I'd be interested to hear other wallet developers respond; Andreas Schildbach's Bitcoin Wallet for Android has auto-update capability. I think the developer gets hacked scenario is much more likely than physical kidnap or whatever, but as the stakes rise, so does the need for security. In the long run I'd like to see update keys be sent to fully anonymous developers who can't be found by anyone, but still have an established reputation for doing coding and review work. Such people are rare, though. We need Satoshi back Yes indeed. It suggests that creating pseudonyms to act as plausibly deniable co-developers has some merit. In the meantime I'd suggest non-anonymous developers take my advise seriously for their own legal and physical safety.
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I've talked about it with Andreas before, he knows I'll revisit this topic at some point. I never got a chance to play with the threshold RSA library I got hold of, unfortunately.
Basically the work for Android means:
1) Find a way to reproduce the build. As APKs are just zips, and the contents are just produced by javac which is a very simple and mostly static program, this should not be very hard. Rather than the gitian approach I'd think just locating the parts which vary for some legitimate reason, like timestamps, zeroing them out and then checking the file hashes match would be OK.
2) Test if the RSA threshold library I have really works as advertised (makes ordinary RSA signatures), and if so, check that it's possible to shard an existing key and signing works. I believe it should be possible, but there's no replacement for trying it.
3) If the technology works, get Andreas to shard the key into say 50 pieces with a threshold of, say, 30, and then start the process of making ordinary builds use threshold signing. I imagine Andreas would keep the original key for a while and eventually get rid of it. Probably there'd need to be a new beta app so he can push out new releases to testers without anyone else being involved (currently the Play Store beta system is used).
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Release 2013110501 codename "The Fifth of November" is now available:- added Arabic, Chinese Simplified, Czech, Hindi, Korean, Russian, Spanish, Tagalog and Urdu translations
- added LocalBitcoins and Patten applications
- Hive can now handle bitcoin: links on websites
- improved error handling - popup window should now show up if an error occurs while processing blockchain data
- fixed JS API breaking after app page is reloaded
As usual, you can get it from http://grabhive.com or through the Sparkle auto-update system. The latest release can always be downloaded here: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/releases.
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Help us sponsor the first Thanksgiving dinner in Satoshi Forest!https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329396.0Jason has committed to the idea of having the first ever Thanksgiving in Satoshi Forrest so that the homeless nearby will be able to enjoy probably the best Thanksgiving they've even eaten, for we're goin' all out and doing it a al kālua with myself at the helm. The tad support we're seeking to raise is ~$500 USD via Bitcoin via this thread. Once again, use the Sean's Outpost Bitcoin wallet address 1M72Sfpbz1BPpXFHz9m3CdqATR44Jvaydd for all donations, but please post here if you're supporting this specific cause so that the dollars raised to date can be tracked and tallied accordingly. Here's the QR-Code for the above address:
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Vote for Hive as your favorite Bitcoin Project of Autumn 2013
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hi hive #bitcoinsingapore2013
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hi hive #bitcoinsingapore2013 Hey!
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Dark Wallet Certification proposal:Ref: Let There Be Dark!Greetings from Bitcoin Singapore! Hive will be attending unSYSTEM's DarkWallet meeting in Milan on the week of the 24th. We propose that the outcome of this meeting be, at minimum, the establishment of a v1 "Dark Wallet Certification", a set of best-practice guidelines for wallets focused on decentralization and anonymity. This topic is has been opened in order to get the community thinking about what exactly a "Dark Wallet" should be: We assume the use of Tor, CoinJoin, CoinSwap and other such developments. We assume the lack of centralized services wherever possible. We presume that we can evolve ideas about authentication (see the work of John Light, Joe Casico etc)... Still, our ignorance is vast and we would like to come armed at this meeting, with your feedback. What ideas or thoughts do you all have? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334241
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We are extremely pleased to announce the acquisition of Jan Vornberger's Bridgewalker wallet for Android. We are also extremely pleased to announce that Jan will be joining the Hive team. Hive for Android will be available in late spring, 2014.Wendell: Jan is an absolute legend in the community. Many will recall his early successes, including InstaWallet and Bitcoin Monitor. We could not be more excited to have him on board. Together we will build an extremely user-friendly Android wallet and extend our app platform into the mobile space. Jan: I am excited about the acquisition of Bridgewalker by Hive and am looking very much forward to joining the Hive team. I will be focusing foremost on bringing the Hive experience to the Android platform. Nevertheless, Bridgewalker will continue operating and I am excited about exploring this approach further with the help of the Hive team! Hive for Android's public repo will open in early January. Discussion thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334383
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I've submitted a pull request to update the Sean's Outpost app, adding live rate conversion between BTC and # of people fed. This addresses open issues #3 and #4. The update look like below:
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Hot on the heels of our acquisition of Jan Vornberger's Bridgewalker wallet for Android, we are today pleased to announce today the acquisition of Taylor Gerring's PAYTHRU.to, a service that allows users to easily send Bitcoin via SMS, Twitter, and Facebook. Taylor has also joined the Hive team and will be furthering our social network and services integrations for all platforms. As with all of our products, PAYTHRU.to will be open-sourced and made available for community collaboration. Taylor: I'm thrilled to be joining the Hive team and integrating PAYTHRU notifications with the Hive experience. In the near future, the code behind PAYTHRU will be open-sourced, allowing other developers to extend the platform to even more services, reaching more users. Looking forward, I'm exciting to work on making Hive the absolute best Bitcoin wallet in the world. Wendell: When we first met Taylor and saw what he was doing with PAYTHRU, we knew it was a match sanctioned by unspeakable entities in heavens both above and below. As such we could not be happier to have him join our team, and we look forward to rabbles being roused in some grand old style. PAYTHRU.to's public repo will open in early January. Discussion thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341787.0
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Acquiring a lot of things in this community, do you guys have funding? Can you point us to the VC firm that gave you this funding? Or are you just giving stock in your company in which case where is your LLC registered out of?
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Acquiring a lot of things in this community, do you guys have funding? Can you point us to the VC firm that gave you this funding? Or are you just giving stock in your company in which case where is your LLC registered out of?
Hi gweedo, Right now we are self-funded, but we hope to make some related announcements soon. As for the other details, those will be trumpeted out along with such news. Apologies for any vagueness, but there's a little sensitivity around the subject until it's all signed, sealed and delivered. Hope you understand.
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Acquiring a lot of things in this community, do you guys have funding? Can you point us to the VC firm that gave you this funding? Or are you just giving stock in your company in which case where is your LLC registered out of?
Hi gweedo, Right now we are self-funded, but we hope to make some related announcements soon. As for the other details, those will be trumpeted out along with such news. Apologies for any vagueness, but there's a little sensitivity around the subject until it's all signed, sealed and delivered. Hope you understand. Yeah I wasn't expecting a straight answer, but sounds good, of course I be on the look out.
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We have another release for you today, version 2013112501: - added Finnish, Greek, Portuguese (European and Brazilian), Romanian and Turkish translations
- switched to a more robust SQLite format for the database file instead of the old XML one
- the balance field on the profile page will now show pending balance if some of the funds are blocked
- error handling improvements - more errors should be caught, and you have an option of submitting error reports to us (uses HockeyApp API)
- fixed issues with disappearing transactions (missing transactions should be restored now)
- fixed a problem with BTC amount precision
Because of the database file change, it's recommended to back up your Hive directory before updating. Just make a copy of the ~/Library/Application Support/Hive directory in some other place.Also, we've got another Cocoa developer on board (hi Nikolaj!), so you can expect the releases to speed up a bit now Nikolaj currently works on currency conversion feature that will show you the amount you're sending converted to a chosen fiat currency.
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November 26, 2013, 07:25:54 AM |
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We had reset this poll a couple of times, but it seems that everyone unanimously wants an iOS version. It's the one thing that we unfortunately cannot promise due to Apple's shakiness re: Bitcoin, as mentioned in the first post. But, we will see. :-)
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November 26, 2013, 07:31:40 AM |
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Voted for Windows
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We've implemented the currency conversion feature I've mentioned above - this is how it looks (you can enter the amount in any of the fields, and the other will be updated automatically): You can also see your total wallet balance converted to a fiat currency on the profile page.
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Thanks to Wendell for making it down here & taking the time out to spend time with us. Interview with Wendell, creator of Hive wallet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn3m_K5AJec
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I dont fully understand what Dark Wallet is. Its a fully anonymous wallet service for chrome?
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December 03, 2013, 12:42:48 AM |
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I dont fully understand what Dark Wallet is. Its a fully anonymous wallet service for chrome? It's way more than that and (soon?) available for both Chrome and Firefox, but you have the general idea.
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I dont fully understand what Dark Wallet is. Its a fully anonymous wallet service for chrome? It's way more than that and (soon?) available for both Chrome and Firefox, but you have the general idea. Thanks. Also I just got a mac and will be testing out Hive soon!
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We've got a new version available for you today! Here's a list of changes: - currency conversion - you can now see the amount in your chosen fiat currency in the send dialog and on the balance page
- fixed issue with incorrect decimal symbol when entering sent amount
- transaction fee is now displayed in the send window (and the fee is added to instead of subtracted from the amount)
- added Japanese and Serbian (Cyrillic and Latin) translations
- UI updates in Sean's Outpost app
- improved error handling during startup
And here's how the send dialog looks now with currency conversion and the fee amount:
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Why , instead of .?
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Why , instead of .?
It's a localization setting. Many countries use a comma instead of a period as the separator
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Why , instead of .?
It's a localization setting. Many countries use a comma instead of a period as the separator In america we use . instead of ,'s. Any way we can change it?
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In america we use . instead of ,'s. Any way we can change it?
The language/locale is set in System Preferences, Language & Text. The language chosen in the Language tab determines the translation used, and the setting in the Region tab determines things like dot/period for number formatting. (That's for 10.8, in 10.9 the section looks a bit different.)
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December 05, 2013, 12:33:18 AM |
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In america we use . instead of ,'s. Any way we can change it?
The language/locale is set in System Preferences, Language & Text. The language chosen in the Language tab determines the translation used, and the setting in the Region tab determines things like dot/period for number formatting. (That's for 10.8, in 10.9 the section looks a bit different.) Language is set to english. I cant find the region tab (I use 10.7.5.) Where can I find it?
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Language is set to english. I cant find the region tab (I use 10.7.5.) Where can I find it?
I think this tab is named Formats in 10.7.
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Language is set to english. I cant find the region tab (I use 10.7.5.) Where can I find it?
I think this tab is named Formats in 10.7. These are my settings: But in hive it shows up as ,'s
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Ok, that's funny... I definitely see periods, not commas, if I switch my region to United States. I'll have to check if this API somehow works differently on 10.7 (I'm on 10.8 now).
Are you running the latest version (2013120402)?
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Im not sure. This is my build number. If thats old how do i upgrade? Its a old mac that was given to me to play with...
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No, I mean the latest Hive version.
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No, I mean the latest Hive version.
Here is what I am running:
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That's not the latest version, we've released a new one today - try on that one (update with Hive > Check for Updates).
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That's not the latest version, we've released a new one today - try on that one (update with Hive > Check for Updates).
It works! Do you guys have an ios app (for version 6.0)?
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It works! Do you guys have an ios app (for version 6.0)? Nope, we haven't even started working on one, and I'm not sure if we will. We'll have to be sure Apple is ok with Bitcoin wallets on iOS, and right now we aren't (there were only 3 so far that I know of, and only one of them is still in the App Store). And we're too busy with the Mac wallet at the moment anyway...
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It works! Do you guys have an ios app (for version 6.0)? Nope, we haven't even started working on one, and I'm not sure if we will. We'll have to be sure Apple is ok with Bitcoin wallets on iOS, and right now we aren't (there were only 3 so far that I know of, and only one of them is still in the App Store). And we're too busy with the Mac wallet at the moment anyway... Oh, ok. I read ios in your sig, but didnt realize that you were talking about the frameworks...
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It works! Do you guys have an ios app (for version 6.0)? Nope, we haven't even started working on one, and I'm not sure if we will. We'll have to be sure Apple is ok with Bitcoin wallets on iOS, and right now we aren't (there were only 3 so far that I know of, and only one of them is still in the App Store). And we're too busy with the Mac wallet at the moment anyway... There is jailbroken users
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December 05, 2013, 04:59:16 PM |
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There is jailbroken users As far as we understand, iOS7 is not jailbroken yet. To top it off, I think the jailbreak scene is a bit exhausted by Apple's constant patching. It's just too easy/compelling/seemingly mandatory to update now. Doesn't seem worth it...
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I just voted in the poll and quickly want to say why I chose chrome app. You should make a stand alone chrome app because of the fact that chrome is supported on all os's so this would make it quickly compatible with all of the os's. Of course you could make desktop versions for each os later on but this will make it so that one price of code is available everywhere...
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Hive for OS X is now available in Portuguese! ( discussion thread here) Changeset here. Special thanks to Ygor Ribeiro and Rafael Caricio!
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Quick question. The contacts are from the contacts app on my computer right?
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December 07, 2013, 01:57:58 AM |
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Ok, so its a custom address book. On a side note: I recommend JIRA since it is only $10 per year...
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Hive for OS X is now available in Serbian - both Cyrillic and Latin! ( discussion thread here) Changeset here. Special thanks to Marko Mitrovic!
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Paweł is working on something interesting...Hello! My name is Paweł and I'm working on few stuff for Hive Wallet. Basic functionality has been implemented. What else would you like to see here? Greetings from Kraków, Poland! O_o I <3 Coinbase!
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December 11, 2013, 09:58:15 PM |
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Attention:
If Hive mysteriously crashes for you upon startup, please re-download it. We have fixed the bug that caused this problem but you may not be able to auto-update to the fixed version.
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December 19, 2013, 03:09:53 PM |
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Shes a beauty, can't wait to try the finished version. Looks almost like the twitter bootstrap, which I find attractve. Will you keep it in beta indefinitely? Or will it come out of beta.
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Shes a beauty, can't wait to try the finished version. Looks almost like the twitter bootstrap, which I find attractve. Will you keep it in beta indefinitely? Or will it come out of beta.
Hey thanks so much! Will definitely come out of beta. The perpetual beta tag is pretty much a mid-2000s cliche by now, right? ;-)
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Shes a beauty, can't wait to try the finished version. Looks almost like the twitter bootstrap, which I find attractve. Will you keep it in beta indefinitely? Or will it come out of beta.
Hey thanks so much! Will definitely come out of beta. The perpetual beta tag is pretty much a mid-2000s cliche by now, right? ;-) Love the look. The only thing that would make it better is if the button were a little less rounded. <- That is a personal preference and is different for everyone.
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Hi, no new Hive releases this time - we have a few things in progress and we don't want to release anything unfinished now, especially before the holidays. Here are some teasers though to show you what's coming:
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Hi,
no new Hive releases this time - we have a few things in progress and we don't want to release anything unfinished now, especially before the holidays. Here are some teasers though to show you what's coming:
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Cant wait till the dropbox update!!!
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The updated Bitstamp app for Hive is done and available at https://github.com/tgerring/hiveapp-bitstamptrader/releases. All the standard trading/transfer functionality works (no more copy/pasting deposit addresses!), though it could still use a little polish here and there. If you're interested in developing an app for Hive Wallet, the code behind this is simple HTML/jQuery and makes use of several parts of the Hive API. This will (eventually) be bundled with the app in subsequent builds. Here's a screenshot preview:
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December 28, 2013, 06:38:36 PM |
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Wow, really nice. The next release is going to be great.
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December 29, 2013, 11:45:36 PM |
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This looks sweet, getting beta for some playing around, looking forward to next release.
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January 01, 2014, 07:14:03 AM |
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As usual, amazing job guys. Happy New Year!!!
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Cant wait till the dropbox update!!!
Your wait is over A big new release (2014010201) is out: - wallet’s private key can now be encrypted with a password (see “Wallet” menu)
- Backup Center - check Time Machine backup status and automatically back up Hive data to your Dropbox folder
- you can now choose Bitcoin unit (BTC, mBTC, µBTC) - default is mBTC
- pending transactions are marked as such on the list
- added “share” button on Transactions list (10.8+)
- Hive offers to move itself to Applications if started e.g. from Downloads
- fixed contact autocomplete in Send dialog
- UI fixes for some translations
- improved German translation
- updated bitcoinj to latest version
- various bug fixes and UI improvements
As usual, get it from hivewallet.com or the in-app update system.
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Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information: abort() called
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff8d938866 __pthread_kill + 10 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8a88435c pthread_kill + 92 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff8d030bba abort + 125 3 net.hockeyapp.sdk.mac 0x000000010d44594a uncaught_exception_handler + 27 4 net.hockeyapp.sdk.mac 0x000000010d43d5e7 -[BITCrashExceptionApplication sendEvent:] + 215 5 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8b776a29 -[NSApplication run] + 646 6 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8b761803 NSApplicationMain + 940 7 com.grabhive.Hive 0x000000010cf4e0e4 0x10cf4c000 + 8420
When I try to enable dropbox it spits this out.
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January 03, 2014, 09:00:19 PM |
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When I try to enable dropbox it spits this out.
Can you send the crash report from the exception popup if it shows up (if you haven't already), and send me the logs from ~/Library/Logs/Hive and anything from Console.app that appears at the moment when this happens? (kuba (at) hivewallet.com)
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January 03, 2014, 09:01:10 PM |
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Also, which OSX version are you on?
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January 03, 2014, 09:37:59 PM |
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Nice. I'll be watching this.
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January 04, 2014, 02:14:46 AM |
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When I try to enable dropbox it spits this out.
Can you send the crash report from the exception popup if it shows up (if you haven't already), and send me the logs from ~/Library/Logs/Hive and anything from Console.app that appears at the moment when this happens? (kuba (at) hivewallet.com) I just send the report thru the app's crash reporter, I didn't see anything in the logs that showed this. The log is mostly java bitcoinj stuff.
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January 04, 2014, 02:15:14 AM |
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Also, which OSX version are you on?
10.9.1
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January 04, 2014, 08:28:51 AM |
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That worked for me thanks!
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January 04, 2014, 09:36:23 AM |
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If you don't mind me asking, how would the chrome app work?
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January 04, 2014, 09:47:35 AM |
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If you don't mind me asking, how would the chrome app work?
Lots and lots of javascript and html5, it is really hard, but you can use already made apis to bitcoin servers to get balances and to talk to the network. Bitcoin is really powerful in that way, that you can just build certain parts and have centralized parts. So the application would basically just sign transactions and then a centralized server can broadcast them to the network.
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January 04, 2014, 09:50:36 AM |
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If you don't mind me asking, how would the chrome app work?
Lots and lots of javascript and html5, it is really hard, but you can use already made apis to bitcoin servers to get balances and to talk to the network. Bitcoin is really powerful in that way, that you can just build certain parts and have centralized parts. So the application would basically just sign transactions and then a centralized server can broadcast them to the network. But hive aims to be decentralized. Would it still be possible? What about how multivitamin works? They don't download the entire blockchain. Would that be possible to do with JS?
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If you don't mind me asking, how would the chrome app work?
Lots and lots of javascript and html5, it is really hard, but you can use already made apis to bitcoin servers to get balances and to talk to the network. Bitcoin is really powerful in that way, that you can just build certain parts and have centralized parts. So the application would basically just sign transactions and then a centralized server can broadcast them to the network. But hive aims to be decentralized. Would it still be possible? What about how multivitamin works? They don't download the entire blockchain. Would that be possible to do with JS? It would be really really really hard task to download the entire blockchain with JS. Remember JS is a scripting language and to make it take bits and shift bits is really hard. That isn't built into the language so you would need a library or to built that yourself. Plus hive isn't decentralized they use bitcoinj as the backend, it is a SPV client. That is second lowest form of trust on the network. Also I said certain parts can be centralized, like sending an already signed transaction to the network because no one can tamper with that. Also getting balances can be centralized, cause no one is using a chrome app to send $100K and if they are then they are dumb. If you want to see something cool look at the KryptoKit and get the chrome app package, add .zip and you can see the source code.
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Great! Some UI feedback: - When I open an app, there are is a visual glitches. There is a rightward arrow mark in the title bar, looks like it's trying to be a button bar but the button edge overlaps with the middle of the label. This is with Mavericks.
- I tried to use the localbitcoins app to find sell offers and it didn't work, the app just stayed on the progress bar after clicking "find offers" forever.
- Could Hive not pick up my name from the operating system?
- Why do the buttons have a custom style instead of being regular Aqua buttons? On the profile page, the "Edit" button is not aligned with the "send" button in the left hand tray, so it looks a bit odd and unpolished. Also, on the "change password" screen, the button always looks the same regardless of whether it's enabled or disabled. If you make a mistake typing in your password a second time, there's no visual feedback you've got it wrong: the button simply acts dead when you try to push it.
- In the transactions page, it seems like there is an issue with the PENDING label? I had some money in my hive wallet already, and it showed up as PENDING even though it was confirmed for a long time. Upgrade specific issue?
- A transaction lights up if I push it, but nothing happens. That is odd - it looks and acts like a button, yet, pressing it doesn't do anything.
- Hive doesn't seem to register to handle bitcoin URIs yet?
- I had two transactions in my wallet. I sent some money out to my phone, so I expected that transaction to appear at either the top or bottom of my tx list. In fact it appeared in the middle. How are transactions sorted? Could you also include the time so transactions that occur on the same day can be seen in more detail?
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January 04, 2014, 03:24:20 PM |
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Hi Mike, thanks for the feedback! When I open an app, there are is a visual glitches. There is a rightward arrow mark in the title bar, looks like it's trying to be a button bar but the button edge overlaps with the middle of the label. This is with Mavericks. Yeah, I've noticed that too recently... I tried to use the localbitcoins app to find sell offers and it didn't work, the app just stayed on the progress bar after clicking "find offers" forever. To be honest we haven't looked at the existing apps recently - I'll tell someone from the team to take a look at this. Could Hive not pick up my name from the operating system? It probably could, good idea. Why do the buttons have a custom style instead of being regular Aqua buttons? Because that's how our designer designed it Now that you say that, we might actually be better off using standard ones, we'll have to rethink that... On the profile page, the "Edit" button is not aligned with the "send" button in the left hand tray, so it looks a bit odd and unpolished. Yeah, we have some tickets for that, we're just too busy now trying to get the most important stuff done before the Miami conference... Also, on the "change password" screen, the button always looks the same regardless of whether it's enabled or disabled. If you make a mistake typing in your password a second time, there's no visual feedback you've got it wrong: the button simply acts dead when you try to push it. Good point, there is actually a visual feedback (red background) but only when you press enter. In the transactions page, it seems like there is an issue with the PENDING label? I had some money in my hive wallet already, and it showed up as PENDING even though it was confirmed for a long time. Upgrade specific issue? That's possible. Can you check in the Debugging Info window, on "Data store transactions" list, what is the status value for those? I suspect it's really 0=unknown, not 1=pending. Also, if you go to Debugging Tools and run "Rebuild transactions list", that should fix it too. (This only rebuilds the Core Data table.) Hive doesn't seem to register to handle bitcoin URIs yet? It should, we added this some time ago. Does it not work with the one here https://electrum.org/bitcoin_URIs.html for example? Even if Hive is already started? Maybe try in a different browser? I had two transactions in my wallet. I sent some money out to my phone, so I expected that transaction to appear at either the top or bottom of my tx list. In fact it appeared in the middle. How are transactions sorted? They should be sorted by newest first. I suspect this is a data migration problem, I saw that too, but it should rebuild the list on first run to prevent this... Check the dates on the list in Debugging Info mentioned above - the ones that appear above the newest one probably have dates from 2044 or something like that. Could you also include the time so transactions that occur on the same day can be seen in more detail? Yeah, we probably should.
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January 04, 2014, 05:29:35 PM |
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Cant wait till the dropbox update!!!
Your wait is over A big new release (2014010201) is out: - wallet’s private key can now be encrypted with a password (see “Wallet” menu)
- Backup Center - check Time Machine backup status and automatically back up Hive data to your Dropbox folder
- you can now choose Bitcoin unit (BTC, mBTC, µBTC) - default is mBTC
- pending transactions are marked as such on the list
- added “share” button on Transactions list (10.8+)
- Hive offers to move itself to Applications if started e.g. from Downloads
- fixed contact autocomplete in Send dialog
- UI fixes for some translations
- improved German translation
- updated bitcoinj to latest version
- various bug fixes and UI improvements
As usual, get it from hivewallet.com or the in-app update system. In what format does it store the backup on Dropbox?
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January 04, 2014, 05:32:25 PM |
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In what format does it store the backup on Dropbox?
It copies two files from the Hive directory in Application Support to the selected directory - one is the Core Data database (which keeps a list of transactions, contacts with addresses etc.) and the other is the bitcoinj wallet file with all the keys and whatever other data bitcoinj needs.
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January 04, 2014, 06:30:19 PM |
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In what format does it store the backup on Dropbox?
It copies two files from the Hive directory in Application Support to the selected directory - one is the Core Data database (which keeps a list of transactions, contacts with addresses etc.) and the other is the bitcoinj wallet file with all the keys and whatever other data bitcoinj needs. Thanks for the response. Is the wallet encrypted or otherwise protected if Dropbox was accessed by someone else besides the user?
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January 04, 2014, 06:33:20 PM |
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Thanks for the response. Is the wallet encrypted or otherwise protected if Dropbox was accessed by someone else besides the user?
Only if you set a password, which is a feature that we've also added in this release - see the Wallet menu. (We'll make a change next week so that it's not possible to use the Dropbox backup until you do that, for your own safety...)
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Hi there. Thanks for the amazing looking app. Unfortunately I am having trouble sending out bitcoin from the app. I am on OSX 10.7.5. Each time I click send, the app would crash before prompting me to enter the password for my wallet. I am also currently not using the backup utility.
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I did not receive any private messages or instruction from anyone before, and when I first created those graphics, not even from SN.
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Hi there. Thanks for the amazing looking app. Unfortunately I am having trouble sending out bitcoin from the app. I am on OSX 10.7.5. Each time I click send, the app would crash before prompting me to enter the password for my wallet. I am also currently not using the backup utility.
Please send the report from the exception popup if it appears, and send me the logs from ~/Library/Logs/Hive and anything interesting from Console.app from the moment of the crash (kuba at hivewallet.com).
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January 05, 2014, 01:24:43 PM |
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Hey,
status=1 and date=2044 so yeah, some kind of migration issue. Doing "rebuild transaction list" indeed fixed it.
Bitcoin URIs open Hive for me, but the app doesn't pre-fill the send screen as I would expect. It just sits on my personal profile page.
Thanks!
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January 05, 2014, 01:50:14 PM |
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Nice wallet. But when will hive be released for windows.
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January 05, 2014, 07:04:47 PM |
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Bitcoin URIs open Hive for me, but the app doesn't pre-fill the send screen as I would expect. It just sits on my personal profile page.
I tried it now and it does open the send window but only if you already have the app open, is this how it works for you too?
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January 06, 2014, 06:31:09 PM |
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I tried both and couldn't make it open the send screen
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January 07, 2014, 10:15:25 AM |
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status=1 and date=2044 so yeah, some kind of migration issue. Doing "rebuild transaction list" indeed fixed it.
Did you see the "pending" label on just one of your old transactions, or on all of them (or the only one)?
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January 07, 2014, 10:25:49 AM |
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The pending label was stuck there for the old transaction, it worked as I expected for the others. Now the db was rebuilt it's OK.
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January 07, 2014, 10:27:01 AM |
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But you only had one old transaction or did you also have other old ones that weren't marked as pending?
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January 08, 2014, 01:14:33 AM |
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same for me, just fresh installed it, transferred some btc from another wallet to hive, and even though it shows transaction completed in multi bit, hive shows pending even though its confirmed. Resetting the transaction list, fixes it and the pending label goes away...perhaps this is a bug?
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January 08, 2014, 08:55:34 AM |
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same for me, just fresh installed it, transferred some btc from another wallet to hive, and even though it shows transaction completed in multi bit, hive shows pending even though its confirmed. Resetting the transaction list, fixes it and the pending label goes away...perhaps this is a bug?
I think this is different, you're talking about a new transaction - this is indeed a known issue, the pending label also goes away if you just restart Hive (it's updated in the database but not in the UI). Mike's problem (as I understand) was about an older transaction that would never update by itself.
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Hello, new release is out - we've fixed a lot of bugs this week and we've done a lot of small changes. Here's the full list: - Dropbox backup is disabled until you set a wallet password
- backup is also run after waking up from sleep (previously only on Hive start)
- you will get a warning if you try to send much more BTC than usually
- transaction date is now localized and shows also time and (for older transactions) year
- removed "from" addresses from the transactions list, to discourage users from sending money back to the same address
- balance on the profile page will now include Bitcoin from unconfirmed transactions (no separate "pending" balance)
- Hive should now automatically figure out user's full name on first start
- fixed several bugs related to backups, encryption and other things
- added Swedish translation
- new API methods for handling currency and Bitcoin formats
All of the crashing bugs you found should be (hopefully) fixed now. Let us know if something else doesn't work. Link: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/releases/download/2014011001/Hive-2014011001.zip
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What is "much more than usual"? Do you take the averages of all our transaction and then warn us we send more than that?
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What is "much more than usual"? Do you take the averages of all our transaction and then warn us we send more than that?
Right now we show the warning if the amount is more than one standard deviation higher than the average. So for transactions [100, 200, 300, 400] it would warn above ~380, and for [100, 200, 300, 1000] it would warn above ~800. We'll tweak it if it turns out that there are too many false positives - the idea is to try to protect the user from accidentally sending much more than they wanted to.
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What is "much more than usual"? Do you take the averages of all our transaction and then warn us we send more than that?
Right now we show the warning if the amount is more than one standard deviation higher than the average. So for transactions [100, 200, 300, 400] it would warn above ~380, and for [100, 200, 300, 1000] it would warn above ~800. We'll tweak it if it turns out that there are too many false positives - the idea is to try to protect the user from accidentally sending much more than they wanted to. Very nice idea.
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Unfortunately even after deleting the prefs and restarting, I still don't see any apps. I did successfully receive a transation though, so it's working. Mt Gox is currently skewed significantly from every other rate. There is a library called Xchange which is what MultiBit uses. Alternatively BitPay export their blended rates: https://bitpay.com/api/ratesIt'd be great to have some support for exchange rates in bitcoinj if anyone wants to contribute. Regarding the rates, I can't see if this was discussed further. However I second the suggestion of using a different source for this information. I had a quick glance over the rates on the Bitpay page and they seem closer to the true market rates. Certainly for my local currency, NZD, the rate is much more accurate
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One interface issue that I haven't seen in any other app is that I am unable to drag the window if I grab it over the title text. Any other area on the title bar works fine. Had me stumped the first time I noticed it
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Regarding the rates, I can't see if this was discussed further. However I second the suggestion of using a different source for this information. I had a quick glance over the rates on the Bitpay page and they seem closer to the true market rates. Certainly for my local currency, NZD, the rate is much more accurate
We've switched the provider to BitcoinAverage about a month ago. It takes a weighted average from all exchanges dealing with given currency, depending on the volume of transactions on each one, so it seems to be the most accurate source. BitPay calculates everything from BTC/USD rate somehow, which in some cases comes out completely wrong. One interface issue that I haven't seen in any other app is that I am unable to drag the window if I grab it over the title text. Any other area on the title bar works fine. Had me stumped the first time I noticed it Yeah, I think I've noticed this too, must be something caused by the library we're using to make the window title bar wider than usually. I'll add a ticket for this.
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Regarding the rates, I can't see if this was discussed further. However I second the suggestion of using a different source for this information. I had a quick glance over the rates on the Bitpay page and they seem closer to the true market rates. Certainly for my local currency, NZD, the rate is much more accurate
We've switched the provider to BitcoinAverage about a month ago. It takes a weighted average from all exchanges dealing with given currency, depending on the volume of transactions on each one, so it seems to be the most accurate source. BitPay calculates everything from BTC/USD rate somehow, which in some cases comes out completely wrong. One interface issue that I haven't seen in any other app is that I am unable to drag the window if I grab it over the title text. Any other area on the title bar works fine. Had me stumped the first time I noticed it Yeah, I think I've noticed this too, must be something caused by the library we're using to make the window title bar wider than usually. I'll add a ticket for this. Thanks for the info. One thing I can't find is a way to create new receiving addresses. Is this implemented? It seems that it could be because the receiving address is labeled "main" which implies it might be possible to add others with different names but I can't find a button or menu entry for this function anywhere.
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Thanks for the info. One thing I can't find is a way to create new receiving addresses. Is this implemented? It seems that it could be because the receiving address is labeled "main" which implies it might be possible to add others with different names but I can't find a button or menu entry for this function anywhere.
Yeah, there's no way to generate more addresses now... I know address reuse is not recommended, but it's by design to make things simpler to understand for people new to Bitcoin. In the next month or two we're going to switch to a BIP32 HD wallet (once it's implemented in bitcoinj), so new addresses will be generated from the seed every time, and then we'll rethink how to handle this in the UI.
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Thanks for the info. One thing I can't find is a way to create new receiving addresses. Is this implemented? It seems that it could be because the receiving address is labeled "main" which implies it might be possible to add others with different names but I can't find a button or menu entry for this function anywhere.
Yeah, there's no way to generate more addresses now... I know address reuse is not recommended, but it's by design to make things simpler to understand for people new to Bitcoin. In the next month or two we're going to switch to a BIP32 HD wallet (once it's implemented in bitcoinj), so new addresses will be generated from the seed every time, and then we'll rethink how to handle this in the UI. As a Hive team member, what I hope to see a move away form addresses altogether. Mike Hearn's bitcoinj will facilitate address uniqueness and Payment Protocol will further reduce the exposure of the user to PubKeys
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Yup, that's the plan! Working on it ...
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OMG this wallet is so beautiful. Can anyone pm me or post here about your expierences with it/ I want to use it for my go-to wallet but the warning frightens me
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OMG this wallet is so beautiful. Can anyone pm me or post here about your expierences with it/ I want to use it for my go-to wallet but the warning frightens me It does work O.K on my mac and I would use it but DONT PUT ALL OF YOUR COINS ON THERE. Sometimes the new releases tend to make the app crash and your btc is inaccessible for a day or two. You could use it as your primary wallet but have some on coinbase or an online wallet just in case. Also some of the apps dont work or look good...
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OMG this wallet is so beautiful. Can anyone pm me or post here about your expierences with it/ I want to use it for my go-to wallet but the warning frightens me I've been using Hive Wallet to make purchases since the start of the new year (including my flight to Bitcoin Miami this weekend), and it's worked pretty dandy for me so far. With the encryption and backup system in place (currently leveraging Time Machine and Dropbox), you have much less to fear in terms of losing your coins should the software do something unexpected. We appreciate everyone's help using and testing the software and hope to really make this the best looking, most secure, most stable, easiest-to-use Bitcoin software on the planet There are so many exciting things to come that I keep shouting "HURRY UP FUTURE"!
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I agree, with the time machine backup and dropbox functionality I am now using this full time, and loving it!
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In several years of bitcoinj development, I don't believe anyone has ever lost money due to bugs in the software. It's actually very hard to lose bitcoins as long as you have copies of the private keys. So don't worry about that.
What has occasionally happened is your wallet loses sync with the network or becomes internally inconsistent due to bugs in various parts of the stack, but you can always get things fix things with a "replay". Hive recently got support for this checked in so in the worst case where something does go south, it will be able to repair itself. Also, the Hive wallet format is compatible with MultiBit so you can simply open your wallet up with MultiBit if you need to (e.g. if Hive won't start at all).
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In several years of bitcoinj development, I don't believe anyone has ever lost money due to bugs in the software. It's actually very hard to lose bitcoins as long as you have copies of the private keys. So don't worry about that.
Well, shit happens - we had this bug at some point where Hive would overwrite the wallet with a new one if it couldn't read the old one for some reason... that was long ago though. But if you have backups of the wallet on your Time Machine drive and/or Dropbox account (Dropbox keeps old versions at least a month back if I remember correctly), then even if something destroys your whole Hive data directory, you can still get your bitcoins back by restoring the backed up copy and rebuilding the wallet.
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Right .... backups are important MultiBit writes rolling backups into its own directory in order to resolve cases we had where people's RAM has started to go bad and corrupted private keys. Once we go to fully HD wallets this will cease to be an issue of course.
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Right .... backups are important MultiBit writes rolling backups into its own directory in order to resolve cases we had where people's RAM has started to go bad and corrupted private keys. Once we go to fully HD wallets this will cease to be an issue of course. Yeah, Multibit has the additional problem that the backups go outdated pretty quickly if you're adding new addresses. We're planning to avoid this by switching directly from single address to an HD wallet. For now, any Hive backup you make stays up to date until you change your wallet password.
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January 28, 2014, 03:57:38 PM |
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Awesome meeting everyone at the North American Bitcoin Conference!
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Cool! BTW, what's up with the release - if I go to hivewallet.com I see a v1.0, but grabhive.com still runs and says it's a beta and serves <1.0
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Cool! BTW, what's up with the release - if I go to hivewallet.com I see a v1.0, but grabhive.com still runs and says it's a beta and serves <1.0
We're going to push 1.0 to Sparkle very soon, probably tomorrow; sorry for the confusion.
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Nice. I hope you make a splash with it.
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Hi, 1.0 is now live! Here's what we've changed in the last couple of weeks: - there's now a "first run wizard" (only appears if you don't have a wallet yet) - leads you through setting up a password and wallet backups
- if your wallet is unencrypted, you will now see a warning on every start - please encrypt your wallets soon!
- updated apps to latest versions
- added new Bitstamp app, BitPremier, Coinbase, and Prepaid Mobile Recharge apps
- "Get more apps" link on apps page (leads here for now: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/wiki/App-Registry)
- sent amount on the transactions list will not include the fee
- fixed some problems with processing new transactions and transaction status changes
- Dropbox backup now uses ~/Dropbox/Hive-* folder for backups (unless you've already configured it) - we'll add a way to change this later (by holding Alt when clicking "Enable")
- fixed some problems with backups
- UI improvements in send dialog (first result in autocomplete is auto-selected, enter moves to amount field)
- fixed a few minor UI issues
- updated Finnish, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Polish, Russian, Serbian, Spanish, Swedish and Tagalog translations (the rest is in progress)
- updated bitcoinj library to pre-release 0.11 (version from 4 Jan)
- we now have a pretty well tested way to rebuild your wallet from the blockchain data, so if you only have at least one fairly recent backup, you should be safe even if something goes seriously wrong in the wallet
Direct link: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/releases/download/2014012801/Hive-1.0.zipAlso, check out our new site design: http://www.hivewallet.com. Thanks for all the nice words and the encouragement we had from you from the beginning. I'm really excited with this release and I hope you'll start using Hive now if you were afraid of the "beta" label before (just remember, set a password and make a backup!) Please report any errors through the built-in dialog if it appears, otherwise you can mail us at macsupport{at}hivewallet.com with any problems or suggestions. You can also use GitHub Issues: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/issues.
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I really like the idea of a simple wallet with a less "techy" UI in it. Hopefully this will further adoption of bitcoin and other crypto.
I just don't use a mac anymore... lol
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Great. You could try asking an admin to create a Hive subforum here, to avoid collapsing everything into this single thread.
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I'm hoping for an android app, an android app with this sort of functionality would be great.
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January 31, 2014, 12:43:15 AM |
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That's awesome Just what i'm looking for... Congrat
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January 31, 2014, 01:13:12 AM |
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Awesome client! Thank you and nice work
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February 01, 2014, 06:24:52 AM |
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Great. You could try asking an admin to create a Hive subforum here, to avoid collapsing everything into this single thread.
That's not a bad idea. Hopefully the admin in question is not Theymos though, because he took almost 2 months to change our username to "hivewallet" with quite a number of reminders.
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February 01, 2014, 06:59:09 AM |
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Great. You could try asking an admin to create a Hive subforum here, to avoid collapsing everything into this single thread.
That's not a bad idea. Hopefully the admin in question is not Theymos though, because he took almost 2 months to change our username to "hivewallet" with quite a number of reminders. Yes only theymos can add subforums Global moderators should be able to aswell, I think. Unfortunately I dont think that he is going to create a sub-forum for a piece of software. Maybe for an altcoin or country, but not for a software. :/
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February 01, 2014, 11:58:21 AM |
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Global moderators should be able to aswell, I think. Unfortunately I dont think that he is going to create a sub-forum for a piece of software. Maybe for an altcoin or country, but not for a software. :/
There are already subforums for most major wallets.
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Global moderators should be able to aswell, I think. Unfortunately I dont think that he is going to create a sub-forum for a piece of software. Maybe for an altcoin or country, but not for a software. :/
There are already subforums for most major wallets. Really? I have never seen it. Where are they located?
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February 01, 2014, 06:37:39 PM |
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Global moderators should be able to aswell, I think. Unfortunately I dont think that he is going to create a sub-forum for a piece of software. Maybe for an altcoin or country, but not for a software. :/
There are already subforums for most major wallets. Really? I have never seen it. Where are they located? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=37.0KK thanks. I didnt even know that existed. Maybe you should wait until your out of BETA?
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February 03, 2014, 01:27:24 AM |
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Global moderators should be able to aswell, I think. Unfortunately I dont think that he is going to create a sub-forum for a piece of software. Maybe for an altcoin or country, but not for a software. :/
There are already subforums for most major wallets. Really? I have never seen it. Where are they located? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=37.0KK thanks. I didnt even know that existed. Maybe you should wait until your out of BETA? Beta no more: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/releases/tag/2014012801
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February 03, 2014, 01:29:20 AM |
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Wow congrats! Good luck getting theymos's attention!
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Website servers are slow!
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February 11, 2014, 01:49:29 PM |
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Website servers are slow!
Yeah, we had reports that it sometimes doesn't work... we're working on getting it moved to a better hosting.
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Hive 1.1 is out! If you had any problems with 1.0, there's a pretty good chance we've fixed them. Also, check out the QR code scanner/generator. Full release notes: - scanning QR codes - in send window, add contact form and in the top menu
- added button to display QR code for your own address
- added “Send feedback” option in menu (see “Help” menu)
- added info about source of exchange rates data (BitcoinAverage)
- added cancel button to contact form
- added warning notification if no backups are configured
- added App Store app - discover and install more apps
- updated Bitpremier, Bitstamp and Minefield apps
- Dropbox backup folder can be changed by holding Alt when clicking “Enable”
- additional local backups in the same directory, just in case everything else fails
- added Hungarian translation
- updated French, German, Greek, Polish, Romanian, Tagalog translations
- various minor UI improvements
- fixed crash on startup during Dropbox backup
- API: added a method do install other apps
- API: apps can specify which API version they require
- API: list of available currencies
- API: disabled WebKit same-origin policy hack
Link to zip: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/releases/download/1.1/Hive-1.1.zip ("Check for Updates" is broken at the moment, hopefully we'll fix it soon but download the zip manually if you don't want to wait).
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February 18, 2014, 09:46:10 PM |
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Website servers are slow!
Yeah, we had reports that it sometimes doesn't work... we're working on getting it moved to a better hosting. I suggest http://openshift.com because they provide a free vps (3 to be exact) and are somewhat easy to setup. If you want, I could set it up for you! Just send me a pm!
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February 23, 2014, 12:33:43 AM |
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An error occurred in retrieving update information. Please try again later.
Been getting that for a few days now when i try to update it via the update option, any input?
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February 24, 2014, 05:12:36 AM |
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An error occurred in retrieving update information. Please try again later.
Been getting that for a few days now when i try to update it via the update option, any input?
We switched servers and haven't yet been able to point the old one again. It will eventually fix itself, but if you want to upgrade in the meantime, just re-download it from the website and you will be on the new update channel.
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February 24, 2014, 06:59:02 PM |
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already did it just wanted to inform you, in the event u missed it.
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Oh well! That's so cool! That's exactly what I was looking for! Thanks !!!
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February 25, 2014, 01:59:01 PM |
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We switched servers and haven't yet been able to point the old one again. It will eventually fix itself, but if you want to upgrade in the meantime, just re-download it from the website and you will be on the new update channel.
What do you mean by this exactly? DNS repropagation delays should not last several days unless you were using a huge TTL.
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February 25, 2014, 10:32:12 PM |
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another question - been playing around with the wallet and was wondering how i would do a restore from time machine. I can't find a restore option. If its manually done, how do i do it?
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What do you mean by this exactly? DNS repropagation delays should not last several days unless you were using a huge TTL.
It's not a technical issue, it's a human issue another question - been playing around with the wallet and was wondering how i would do a restore from time machine. I can't find a restore option. If its manually done, how do i do it?
There's no restore option at the moment. If you needed to restore from a backup, you'd have to manually copy the two files from the backup to the right folder. The point wasn't to make it easy to do that automatically, the point was to make it possible to get back your coins in case something horrible happens. The bitcoinkit.wallet file (+ the password, obviously) is the only thing you absolutely need in order to do that, most of the other data can be restored somehow.
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I'm having trouble installing the bitcoin store app from the app market, I get this error - Expected status code in (200-299), got 404 any ideas?
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I'm having trouble installing the bitcoin store app from the app market, I get this error - Expected status code in (200-299), got 404 any ideas?
It's been reported. Watch: https://github.com/hivewallet/app-store/issues/16
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Fixed. You should be able to download the app now
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March 03, 2014, 05:48:24 AM |
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What would it cost for you guys to build this for windows?
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What would it cost for you guys to build this for windows?
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Maybe start a little fundraiser thread. Wendell
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March 03, 2014, 06:05:38 AM |
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What would it cost for you guys to build this for windows?
Maybe start a little fundraiser thread. Wendell It might not be a bad idea, but honestly the first thing to do is find an interested Windows programmer. We have not had much success in our quest to find someone. Quite a few mediocre people have stepped up and offered help, but no one who seemed to really know what they were doing. Perhaps though, a pool of active money could help. A public fundraising campaign certainly might get the appropriate developers' attention. What do you guys think?
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What would it cost for you guys to build this for windows?
Maybe start a little fundraiser thread. Wendell It might not be a bad idea, but honestly the first thing to do is find an interested Windows programmer. We have not had much success in our quest to find someone. Quite a few mediocre people have stepped up and offered help, but no one who seemed to really know what they were doing. Perhaps though, a pool of active money could help. A public fundraising campaign certainly might get the appropriate developers' attention. What do you guys think? Yep, a public fundraiser would get the attention of a lot of devs. Just a matter of time before a "pro" would notice it.
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Hi, love the Hive wallet! Just wondering being all protective and safe about my hard earned coins... How exactly do you get your private key from Hive? With the bitcoin-qt client you can easily extract your private key. Haven't found a way for Hive. Isn't it so that when your laptop crashes, and you don't have your wallet backed up, the private key is the only way to salvage your bitcoins? Therefore looking for a way to extract the private key from my Hive wallet. Would be great to incorporate a "print paper wallet" feature in Hive which prints you private key. No?
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Hi, love the Hive wallet! Just wondering being all protective and safe about my hard earned coins... How exactly do you get your private key from Hive? With the bitcoin-qt client you can easily extract your private key. Haven't found a way for Hive. Isn't it so that when your laptop crashes, and you don't have your wallet backed up, the private key is the only way to salvage your bitcoins? Therefore looking for a way to extract the private key from my Hive wallet. Would be great to incorporate a "print paper wallet" feature in Hive which prints you private key. No?
That's why Hive insists from the beginning that you back up the wallet If your laptop crashes and you have a copy e.g. on an external Time Machine drive or in your Dropbox, you can restore the wallet from the backup. (There's no option in the app to do this yet, but you can just copy the files manually in the right place.) Extracting the private key itself is also theoretically possible, but as above, there's no way to do that from inside the app yet. You could try to do that with Mike Hearn's bitcoinj wallet tool if you're really determined, but if it's only for backup purposes then there isn't much point as you can just back up the whole wallet.
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Hi, love the Hive wallet! Just wondering being all protective and safe about my hard earned coins... How exactly do you get your private key from Hive? With the bitcoin-qt client you can easily extract your private key. Haven't found a way for Hive. Isn't it so that when your laptop crashes, and you don't have your wallet backed up, the private key is the only way to salvage your bitcoins? Therefore looking for a way to extract the private key from my Hive wallet. Would be great to incorporate a "print paper wallet" feature in Hive which prints you private key. No?
That's why Hive insists from the beginning that you back up the wallet If your laptop crashes and you have a copy e.g. on an external Time Machine drive or in your Dropbox, you can restore the wallet from the backup. (There's no option in the app to do this yet, but you can just copy the files manually in the right place.) Extracting the private key itself is also theoretically possible, but as above, there's no way to do that from inside the app yet. You could try to do that with Mike Hearn's bitcoinj wallet tool if you're really determined, but if it's only for backup purposes then there isn't much point as you can just back up the whole wallet. Maybe add the ability to export private keys or print a paper wallet for the next version?
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March 13, 2014, 10:48:32 PM |
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sry but must upload it here! Seen last weekend on highway
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March 20, 2014, 08:04:37 AM |
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How cool! :-)
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Looks amazing. Hope to see version for Windows) Aren't you thinking about doing it?
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Q: Is it really safe for novices to use, right now? A: Almost certainly not, it may even be dangerous! Besides still having many bugs, Hive at present lacks many basic features. This release should be considered an early version, for testing and development purposes only.
How is this going? any major progress? I'm dying to give this a go but I want to make sure my coins are safe. Currently with Armoury. Thanks for pointing that out. We just modified the post to reflect the current state of things: No product is perfect, but we are indeed using it every day now, with our own coin. We believe it to be safe. Looks amazing. Hope to see version for Windows) Aren't you thinking about doing it? We're not able to do it ourselves, but if an excellent Windows developer wants to step up to the challenge, he or she should contact us!
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Hi there. Hope someone can help as I am a bit stumped. I have installed Hive on my Mac and it all works wonderfully well. I have back up running to Dropbox and TimeMachine. However I have trying to find where the wallet files are actually located on my Mac, but to no avail. I have looked for the Hive folder in the Library>ApplicationSupport, but its not there. (have unhidden all files and folders) Any idea where Hive could have installed itself? When I search for it using spotlight, absolutely nothing comes up. Befuddled.... :-)
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Hi there. Hope someone can help as I am a bit stumped. I have installed Hive on my Mac and it all works wonderfully well. I have back up running to Dropbox and TimeMachine. However I have trying to find where the wallet files are actually located on my Mac, but to no avail. I have looked for the Hive folder in the Library>ApplicationSupport, but its not there. (have unhidden all files and folders) Any idea where Hive could have installed itself? When I search for it using spotlight, absolutely nothing comes up. Befuddled.... :-) ~/Library/Application Support/Hive/BitcoinJ.network
That is where your wallet is store.
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April 13, 2014, 03:14:58 PM |
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Thank you for replying, but its not in that folder.
What could I search for to find it via Spotlight?
Many thanks
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April 15, 2014, 11:51:50 AM |
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Thank you for replying, but its not in that folder.
It has to be in that folder. Are you perhaps looking in the wrong Library? It's not in the main Library at the root, it's in the user-specific Library (Finder -> Go menu, hold Alt -> Library).
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April 15, 2014, 05:42:25 PM |
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Hi, guess what we are working on now... (Note: this is a very early version, the UI will change a bit and there's a lot of features missing like various verifications and all the memo fields.)
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April 17, 2014, 07:55:21 PM |
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Hello Hive team, I would like to discuss with you about adding support of BitID into Hive. BitId is a "connect with Bitcoin" open protocol allowing smooth one click authentication based on a cryptographic challenge. Benefits for the communauty are huge, as it facilitates greatly signups/signins as well as "pay as guest" e-commerce. A full presentation of BitID is available here : http://bit.ly/bitid-slidesBitID GitHub : https://github.com/bitid/bitidA working demonstration of BitID can be seen here : http://bitid-demo.herokuapp.com/This demo is also useful to test BitID integration into the wallet. There have been already some support of the community to integrate BitID into wallets and services. What would be your opinion about making Hive one of the first wallets to integrate BitID ? Eric
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April 22, 2014, 05:49:18 PM |
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Hi guys, I don't know if someone can help me... I've just installed Hive on my OSX and then I sent some bitcoins to my newly created address, as soon as I did that, Hive crashed, now I can't get in anymore, what are my options ? Thanks in advance for your help ! )
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April 22, 2014, 06:16:00 PM |
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Hi guys, I don't know if someone can help me... I've just installed Hive on my OSX and then I sent some bitcoins to my newly created address, as soon as I did that, Hive crashed, now I can't get in anymore, what are my options ? Thanks in advance for your help ! ) Ok, finally I fixed it, it was as simple as deleting Hive from the Application folder, then, reinstalling... Quite annoying bug tho...
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April 23, 2014, 08:29:48 PM |
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Hive 1.2 is now available. Changes: - preferences window - for now you can set global shortcuts (e.g. Hive send window accessible with a single shortcut, regardless what app you're currently in)
- message signing - for services that require you to verify ownership of a Bitcoin address
- super fast initial sync
- lock screen can be disabled
Payment Protocol support is under development, but for now it's on a branch - it should be available in 1.3.
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April 24, 2014, 06:42:58 PM |
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Is there any way to export my private key with this wallet?
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April 24, 2014, 06:57:48 PM |
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Is there any way to export my private key with this wallet?
Not directly from Hive. You should be able to import the wallet into Multibit and export the key from there if you want to do that.
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April 24, 2014, 07:24:24 PM |
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Hello Hive team, I would like to discuss with you about adding support of BitID into Hive. BitId is a "connect with Bitcoin" open protocol allowing smooth one click authentication based on a cryptographic challenge. Benefits for the communauty are huge, as it facilitates greatly signups/signins as well as "pay as guest" e-commerce. A full presentation of BitID is available here : http://bit.ly/bitid-slidesHi, this looks interesting. I've added a ticket to track this: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/issues/367. I'll look into it later when I have some time (right now I'm busy fixing bugs and adding Payment Protocol support).
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April 28, 2014, 06:03:15 AM |
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Is there any way to export my private key with this wallet?
Not directly from Hive. You should be able to import the wallet into Multibit and export the key from there if you want to do that. Which Hive file contains the Private Key that Multibit can import? Multibit can import a key from .key, .json and .aes.json Thanks
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April 28, 2014, 06:39:44 AM |
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Is there any way to export my private key with this wallet?
Not directly from Hive. You should be able to import the wallet into Multibit and export the key from there if you want to do that. Which Hive file contains the Private Key that Multibit can import? Multibit can import a key from .key, .json and .aes.json Thanks Hive wallets, and multi-bit wallets are basically the same, so if you swap them out for each other it will load that wallet.
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April 28, 2014, 10:31:22 AM |
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Which Hive file contains the Private Key that Multibit can import?
Multibit can import a key from .key, .json and .aes.json
bitcoinkit.wallet, you open it via "open wallet", not "import".
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May 07, 2014, 12:17:15 PM |
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I wonder if Hive or similar wallet can support multiple coins?
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May 07, 2014, 06:31:05 PM |
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I wonder if Hive or similar wallet can support multiple coins?
Perhaps in future, but we don't have any timeline for that yet.
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May 13, 2014, 08:55:10 PM |
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Hi, just a small update on Payment Protocol support - it's almost ready, just a few small changes and some internal testing, and we should be able to release a 1.3 with that before the end of the month.
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May 14, 2014, 02:05:28 AM |
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What language is hive made in?
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May 14, 2014, 11:33:50 AM |
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What language is hive made in?
The UI is written in ObjC like in almost all Mac apps, the backend mostly in Java (bitcoinj + our code that interacts with it), and the "apps" (Bitstamp etc.) in JavaScript.
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May 17, 2014, 06:51:36 PM |
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Hey, dudes, I'd like to see my userpic in Hive from Gravatar. Any plans?
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May 17, 2014, 11:12:39 PM |
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What about adding offline transactions?
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May 21, 2014, 12:01:14 AM |
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It wouldn't be that useful unless it for phones but, lets say I make a transaction but don't have an Internet connection. It would just wait until you got a good Internet connection and then would send the transaction.
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May 24, 2014, 10:59:22 AM |
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Functional and it looks good. The hive should be developing for ios as well.
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May 25, 2014, 01:06:29 PM |
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I am wondering what exactly the activation of TimeMachine Backup in Hive does? I have already a TimeMachine Backup in place that of course includes my users Library Folder (which seems to contain all the important Hive data - is that right???). What more should be happening by pressing the TimeMachine button in Hive? Thanks for clarification. I would really like to be sure about all this backup things before storing bigger amounts of BTC in that wallet. Hope, you understand
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May 27, 2014, 05:38:00 AM |
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Functional and it looks good. The hive should be developing for ios as well.
And what would we be doing with an iOS version exactly? Waiting for Apple to deny it and/or ban it? :-) Keep your eyes on this, it's probably about the closest thing we'll get: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-js
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May 27, 2014, 12:02:31 PM |
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I am wondering what exactly the activation of TimeMachine Backup in Hive does? I have already a TimeMachine Backup in place that of course includes my users Library Folder (which seems to contain all the important Hive data - is that right???). What more should be happening by pressing the TimeMachine button in Hive? Thanks for clarification. I would really like to be sure about all this backup things before storing bigger amounts of BTC in that wallet. Hope, you understand Basically it just monitors Time Machine status and makes sure the backup is being done. If you turn it on in Hive but TM is switched off in the System Preferences, or if you never actually connect the drive to which it should be backed up, then it will start complaining at some point.
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June 03, 2014, 10:13:30 AM |
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And what would we be doing with an iOS version exactly? Waiting for Apple to deny it and/or ban it? :-) Keep your eyes on this, it's probably about the closest thing we'll get: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-jsApparantly Apple have now changed their policies. Go go go, would love me the hive wallet on iPhone.
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June 03, 2014, 01:07:45 PM |
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Oh, Apple...
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June 04, 2014, 04:54:34 AM |
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Oh, Apple...
They denied it? I was really looking forward to it Lol, I wouldnt expect any bitcoin wallet apps on the apple market anytime soon, even if they did change policies.
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June 04, 2014, 08:34:32 AM |
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Oh, Apple...
They denied it? I was really looking forward to it Lol, I wouldnt expect any bitcoin wallet apps on the apple market anytime soon, even if they did change policies. there is one, but doesn't allow you to send per apple guidelines You can watch everything happen but you can't spend...interesting it is. blockchain.info and coinbase had functional wallet apps before they were deleted. should be a matter of time until they're available for download again, unless apple's "approved virtual currencies" don't include bitcoin
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June 04, 2014, 08:57:05 AM |
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Lol, I wouldnt expect any bitcoin wallet apps on the apple market anytime soon, even if they did change policies. CoinJar is already back online, and coinbase's and blockchain.info's wallets are going through re-approval procedure as we speak. Hive, please do an iOS version! It would be great for all Apple users, and the Bitcoin ecosystem!
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June 04, 2014, 12:08:08 PM |
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THIS is the most amazing thing I have ever seen DOGE and BTC? You're going to hit the big time with these, they look beautiful.
Thank you!
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June 04, 2014, 01:04:48 PM |
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No problem... Is this a working version or a preview? Is it in development or anything?
Just a preview, but it is in development.
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June 05, 2014, 12:54:55 AM |
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Brilliant!!! Is this the JS version you are working on? Does it work this well on mobile?
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June 05, 2014, 01:10:50 AM |
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Brilliant!!! Is this the JS version you are working on? Does it work this well on mobile? If it is this good, they'll definitely be the most preferred choice on ios Yep! One thing though. Will there be a login/registration system for hive js?
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June 05, 2014, 02:48:41 AM |
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Brilliant!!! Is this the JS version you are working on? Does it work this well on mobile? If it is this good, they'll definitely be the most preferred choice on ios Yep! One thing though. Will there be a login/registration system for hive js? You would thinks so Maybe an identifier number like blockchain or something? I guess so. An alias option would be good as well!
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June 06, 2014, 08:14:19 PM |
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how was this video shot? Is it android or apple supported?
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June 06, 2014, 10:30:56 PM |
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how was this video shot? Is it android or apple supported? It should be both, since this is the JS version. I think its done VIA the browser. On another note, this might come in use: http://cordova.apache.org/
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June 07, 2014, 03:18:11 PM |
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Brilliant!!! Is this the JS version you are working on? Does it work this well on mobile? If it is this good, they'll definitely be the most preferred choice on ios Yep! One thing though. Will there be a login/registration system for hive js? You would thinks so Maybe an identifier number like blockchain or something? I guess so. An alias option would be good as well! That would most likely be the way it would work alias: pass:
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Reputation first.
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June 12, 2014, 09:11:44 AM |
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Very nice, compliments ! But, this wallet can contain other types of currency, or only Bitcoin? Graphic look seems good
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June 12, 2014, 09:33:24 PM |
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Is there a set launch date?
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June 13, 2014, 05:13:57 PM |
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Very nice, compliments ! But, this wallet can contain other types of currency, or only Bitcoin? Graphic look seems good Is there a set launch date?
Soon.
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June 13, 2014, 09:29:28 PM |
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simply beautiful!! waiting for it!!
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June 20, 2014, 04:40:27 AM |
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Very nice, compliments ! But, this wallet can contain other types of currency, or only Bitcoin? Graphic look seems good Is there a set launch date?
Soon. Litecoin !!?!?!? sweet!!
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June 20, 2014, 04:41:05 AM |
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Very nice, compliments ! But, this wallet can contain other types of currency, or only Bitcoin? Graphic look seems good Is there a set launch date?
Soon. Litecoin !!?!?!? sweet!! There is also Dogecoin.
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June 21, 2014, 10:54:03 PM |
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simply beautiful!! waiting for it!!
Also excited.... Anytime now ! Hive, was doge an example in the image or will that also be in the wallet? I dont think it is. Im not really sure. https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-js/search?q=dogecoin&ref=cmdform^^^ This returns empty so im not really sure!
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June 24, 2014, 04:31:21 PM |
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Does Hive have an iOS app in development, or is this browser based interface the only way for iphone users to use a Hive wallet?
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June 24, 2014, 04:35:02 PM |
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Does Hive have an iOS app in development, or is this browser based interface the only way for iphone users to use a Hive wallet?
We aren't currently planning a fully native iOS app, that would be a lot of work and we just don't have enough people for that... There will probably be a Phonegap-based version though. Until a few weeks ago there was no point building a native app anyway, because Apple was rejecting them, this has only changed after the WWDC.
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June 24, 2014, 06:33:56 PM |
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Does Hive have an iOS app in development, or is this browser based interface the only way for iphone users to use a Hive wallet?
We aren't currently planning a fully native iOS app, that would be a lot of work and we just don't have enough people for that... There will probably be a Phonegap-based version though. Until a few weeks ago there was no point building a native app anyway, because Apple was rejecting them, this has only changed after the WWDC. Cant you just port hive-js for iphone as a native app? It should work. (or you could just have an iframe).
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June 24, 2014, 06:55:08 PM |
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Cant you just port hive-js for iphone as a native app? It should work.
(or you could just have an iframe).
Yeah, that's what Phonegap does, it wraps a web application into a native app by displaying it in an embedded webkit view. I'm not sure if it will be Phonegap specifically, but something of this kind.
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June 26, 2014, 02:21:38 AM |
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June 30, 2014, 03:03:53 AM |
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You can run JS natively in a JavascriptCore context without the web view, which has been greatly improved upon in iOS 8 with full debugging. I've done some work on porting a "web-gl" app to iOS.
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June 30, 2014, 03:36:45 AM |
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You can run JS natively in a JavascriptCore context without the web view, which has been greatly improved upon in iOS 8 with full debugging. I've done some work on porting a "web-gl" app to iOS.
Why not fork and do it for hive? After all, Hive is open source.
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June 30, 2014, 04:15:16 AM |
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Right now I'm working on a Mac OS X / iOS app to help tax prep. etc. I'm going to look at the hive/BitcoinKit and make my library comparable as much as possible..then hopefully I can get a build of Hive that doesn't use Java and can also work on iOS...but I might be fun to poke around with the JS code as well...
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July 01, 2014, 10:11:34 PM |
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How can you not have enough time or money to work on creating a native iOS app? This is the defining point in your company's history, and the entire reason SeedCoin gave you ~300BTC a few months ago.
You're betraying your users and investors by failing to meet the market's expectations.
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How can you not have enough time or money to work on creating a native iOS app? This is the defining point in your company's history, and the entire reason SeedCoin gave you ~300BTC a few months ago.
You're betraying your users and investors by failing to meet the market's expectations.
Hi there, First of all, we received 150 BTC from Seedcoin, most of which was delivered long before Apple made their apparent "reversal" (which is still unclear as far as I'm concerned). Second of all, you can fuck right off with that attitude. We are doing our best to make quality software for everyone. 100+ years of propaganda has blurred the line with respect to reasonable investor etiquette, but being rude doesn't fly with us. If you don't agree with some of our decisions, maybe try a more constructive approach. We are as open as it is possible to be.
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July 02, 2014, 04:46:47 PM |
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How can you not have enough time or money to work on creating a native iOS app? This is the defining point in your company's history, and the entire reason SeedCoin gave you ~300BTC a few months ago.
You're betraying your users and investors by failing to meet the market's expectations.
Hi there, First of all, we received 150 BTC from Seedcoin, most of which was delivered long before Apple made their apparent "reversal" (which is still unclear as far as I'm concerned). Second of all, you can fuck right off with that attitude. We are doing our best to make quality software for everyone. 100+ years of propaganda has blurred the line with respect to reasonable investor etiquette, but being rude doesn't fly with us. If you don't agree with some of our decisions, maybe try a more constructive approach. We are as open as it is possible to be. While I agree with the general content of what you're saying wendell, your response is unprofessional to the point that I doubt you work for Hive. Can someone confirm/deny wendell's association with Hive? Without a response I will assume he/she does work for Hive (which would be disappointing) and stay away from a company that would behave this way in public (even when someone deserves it).
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(even when someone deserves it).
I deserve to be told to fuck off because I'm questioning why they can't write a native iOS app? They sell themselves as a 'beautiful bitcoin wallet for Mac', but the one place a 'Mac' bitcoin wallet makes sense is on the iPhone. Not to mention this is the one part of their business they can monetise. The ONE part they can monetise. So wendell - fuck you. You can take the 2 BTC I put into your company and stick it straight up your entitled asshole. You're living off my money and that of your other investors right now. So damned straight you should be kissing our asses. You want 'constructive criticism'? OK - focus on the one part of your business that you can actually monetise. You're not going to make shit from your web service or your desktop software. Jack shit. Realise that, and work on the bit that's going to make me my money back. When you start living off the profits of your sales and not off my investment, then you can get off telling me about my attitude. Not one second before. Prick.
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How can you not have enough time or money to work on creating a native iOS app? This is the defining point in your company's history, and the entire reason SeedCoin gave you ~300BTC a few months ago.
You're betraying your users and investors by failing to meet the market's expectations.
Hi there, First of all, we received 150 BTC from Seedcoin, most of which was delivered long before Apple made their apparent "reversal" (which is still unclear as far as I'm concerned). Second of all, you can fuck right off with that attitude. We are doing our best to make quality software for everyone. 100+ years of propaganda has blurred the line with respect to reasonable investor etiquette, but being rude doesn't fly with us. If you don't agree with some of our decisions, maybe try a more constructive approach. We are as open as it is possible to be. While I agree with the general content of what you're saying wendell, your response is unprofessional to the point that I doubt you work for Hive. Can someone confirm/deny wendell's association with Hive? Without a response I will assume he/she does work for Hive (which would be disappointing) and stay away from a company that would behave this way in public (even when someone deserves it). Owner of Hive.
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Can someone confirm/deny wendell's association with Hive? Without a response I will assume he/she does work for Hive (which would be disappointing) and stay away from a company that would behave this way in public (even when someone deserves it).
I can confirm, this is our founder. He might have overreacted, but seriously, telling us we "betray our users" because we didn't make an app that we have never told we would do (or rather: we said many times we weren't planning to do) is not cool... What's more, at the moment when Apple has rejected the last wallet from the App Store we almost immediately started working on the next best thing that was possible at that time for iPhone users, which is an HTML5 wallet (which we've released a couple of weeks ago). Before WWDC, there was absolutely no point wasting time and money developing a native wallet app. (*That* could be called betraying the investors...) They sell themselves as a 'beautiful bitcoin wallet for Mac', but the one place a 'Mac' bitcoin wallet makes sense is on the iPhone.
This sentence doesn't make any sense. We made a Mac wallet to run it on the Mac, if we wanted to make an iPhone wallet we would have said we're making an iPhone wallet. So wendell - fuck you. You can take the 2 BTC I put into your company and stick it straight up your entitled asshole. You're living off my money and that of your other investors right now. So damned straight you should be kissing our asses.
And that 2 BTC makes you the owner of how much of Hive, 50%? Because you sound as if it did.
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How can you not have enough time or money to work on creating a native iOS app? This is the defining point in your company's history, and the entire reason SeedCoin gave you ~300BTC a few months ago.
You're betraying your users and investors by failing to meet the market's expectations.
Hi there, First of all, we received 150 BTC from Seedcoin, most of which was delivered long before Apple made their apparent "reversal" (which is still unclear as far as I'm concerned). Second of all, you can fuck right off with that attitude. We are doing our best to make quality software for everyone. 100+ years of propaganda has blurred the line with respect to reasonable investor etiquette, but being rude doesn't fly with us. If you don't agree with some of our decisions, maybe try a more constructive approach. We are as open as it is possible to be. First off 150 BTC for a nice looking wallet... I will say that you are very overvalued like so many bitcoin companies, and seedcoin is people that know nothing about investing in companies investing in a fund, to help startups. Now you see the problem with this right here. Second and more importantly, I would never want to work with hive if you can't answer a person's question like a human. He asked a simple question, how do you see iOS fitting into you into your roadmap/ why are you completely ignoring that position? Being in business is sometimes being the coolest head in the room, but when the leader starts jumping off the gun like that, then I would say the leader is not fit to lead a company. This is only going to get harder, and not easier. I have had to deal with investors that come at very hostile. They given you their money and they want to see it grow, and sometimes they think they know best. You need to as the leader of the company listen to them out, and calmly defuse the situation and explain why your path is correct one.
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Thank you gweedo. I was hoping calmer heads would prevail, but instead we get another angry attack.
Jsuder - my 2BTC does not give me 50% of Hive. But our collective 150BTC through seed coin SURE AS FUCK does. Get off your high horse and realise that without investors like myself you'd be working on your next little project instead of having a shot at the big time.
A big time which you're choosing to ignore. Tell us, how do you plan to monetise anything you've produced so far and return any value to your investors?
I stand by my original assessment that a native iPhone app is your only way to monetise what you've produced, and ignoring that is to betray your investors.
Now let me think...do I want to use a product designed by petulant children who have no business plan?
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(even when someone deserves it).
I deserve to be told to fuck off because I'm questioning why they can't write a native iOS app? Sorry NanoAkron, I definitely was NOT trying to imply you deserved that! I thought his comment was completely unprofessional and unwarranted. I only mentioned the 'even when someone deserves it' because I've worked in business and know that even if someone deserves to be told to fuck off, the professional/respectable thing to do is keep calm and give a measured response. Hive failed in this respect.
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I'll just jump in at this point and say:
We are going to release an iOS version of Hive Web soon. It is already in testing and runs beautifully. Regardless of the exact way it has been coded, it runs fast, takes advantage of native hardware & users will love it. It will be the best simple crypto wallet available on iOS, bar none.
While we'd love to be able to do everything our users (and investors) would like, the reality is, we are resource constrained, and do have to focus our efforts in order to be able to make a great product. You'll notice the Waggle feature in Hive Web. Seems like a small thing, but it's the first step in bringing a lot of great usability to Hive from here on out, and it took a lot of effort to get it into the app. Likewise the first steps to full multi-token support.
We think we can do some pretty amazing things with Hive, now and in the future, and we have a good plan to get there. Sorry if Wendell got a bit heated there. Of course we need and appreciate everyone's support, whether as a user or as an investor, no matter what amount that financially represents. So thanks for investing in Hive, whether it's your time as a user or your money as an investor. We're pretty confident that users & investors alike will be pretty happy with what we release for iOS, so please wait a little bit & we'll get it out to you all soon.
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Jsuder - my 2BTC does not give me 50% of Hive. But our collective 150BTC through seed coin SURE AS FUCK does. Get off your high horse and realise that without investors like myself you'd be working on your next little project instead of having a shot at the big time. A big time which you're choosing to ignore. Tell us, how do you plan to monetise anything you've produced so far and return any value to your investors?
NanoAkron, you are truly an expert troll, but let me clarify things: Your investment gives you a percentage of dividends from Seedcoin's SF1, which has purchased not even close to 50% of Hive. If you've been led to believe otherwise, you'd better go read the prospectus again. As for monetization, I will tell you what we've already said a few times in this very thread: We believe that we can monetize the app platform based on additional transaction fees (and we've recently had a few more ideas). All of this requires growth, so please do keep trolling! It just brings attention to our good work! I stand by my original assessment that a native iPhone app is your only way to monetise what you've produced, and ignoring that is to betray your investors.
It's great that you have an opinion, but we won't be charging for our Cordova-wrapped iOS Wallet. Now let me think...do I want to use a product designed by petulant children who have no business plan?
Sounds like it's definitely better that you don't. First off 150 BTC for a nice looking wallet... I will say that you are very overvalued like so many bitcoin companies, and seedcoin is people that know nothing about investing in companies investing in a fund, to help startups. Now you see the problem with this right here.
Second and more importantly, I would never want to work with hive if you can't answer a person's question like a human. He asked a simple question, how do you see iOS fitting into you into your roadmap/ why are you completely ignoring that position?
Being in business is sometimes being the coolest head in the room, but when the leader starts jumping off the gun like that, then I would say the leader is not fit to lead a company. This is only going to get harder, and not easier. I have had to deal with investors that come at very hostile. They given you their money and they want to see it grow, and sometimes they think they know best. You need to as the leader of the company listen to them out, and calmly defuse the situation and explain why your path is correct one.
Hi Gweedo, He didn't really ask a question. He made various inaccurate accusations, misrepresented facts and generally behaved like a tool. He deserved exactly what he got. Just because someone has (ostensibly) thrown a little money our way doesn't give them the right to be rude with impunity. We do this as a service to the community first and foremost, and would rather clean toilets than pander to such "investors".
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Quick question. Do you guys have a future plan of making money? If so, how?
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Quick question. Do you guys have a future plan of making money? If so, how?
As Wendell said above, we think we can monetize based on additional transaction fees levied within the context of the app platform/app store. This requires some scale, so it will take time.
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In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. Asking why you're not spending time to write a native app, and getting angry when you can't even be civil to one of your investors is not trolling.
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In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. Asking why you're not spending time to write a native app, and getting angry when you can't even be civil to one of your investors is not trolling. Well NanoAkron, that sounds exactly right. Try for a moment to understand: you literally popped up out of nowhere not only being extremely rude, but telling us our business while bandying about the claim that you are an SF1 investor... All the while getting most of the facts about SF1's investment wrong. It's highly fishy to me, and unfortunately one of the disadvantages of SF1 is that I have no way to verify who you say you are (not that it would really have changed my attitude about your approach). As for the answer to your question, it has largely been given by jsuder already: We spent time addressing the iOS problem in a different way, having begun that work long before there was any sign of Apple changing their policy. Now that they may have changed course, our direction is to Cordova-wrap the fruit of the last 4 months' labor -- Hive Web -- for App Store consumption. That ongoing work can be found here: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-iosThere are no plans for a native app at this time. If you have any further questions or thoughts -- that goes for you NanoAkron, or anyone else, truly -- email me directly at w@hivewallet.com . I'm fully on for debate, discussions, or even flat-out arguments about what we are doing. But I won't tolerate the presumptive money-over-decency approach for even one second. The people who make Hive happen all work very hard, and given their considerable talents certainly make far less money for far greater risk than they would elsewhere. Are we clear on that? If yes then let me be the first to extend an olive branch and apologize for flying off the handle at you.
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As an app developer myself I don't see what is wrong with a Cordova HTML app as a Bitcoin wallet leveraging on work done when a native app might have been rejected.
As far as Apple's position, from my reading and discussing with fellow developers, it has always been the burden of the app publisher to verify that the app meets all legal requirements for each market that app is released in. A general wallet app released to all markets would run afoul in more than one country. The wallets that have been recently accepted have apparently taken this in to account and are now inline with that requirement.
I also think the work I see in the Hive wallet is very good... my only issue is with Java, and you've stated you want to move away from it anyway so that's all good.
Just my 2-cents, YMMV...
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I also think the work I see in the Hive wallet is very good... my only issue is with Java, and you've stated you want to move away from it anyway so that's all good.
For OS X, indeed. And for the record, there is no Java in Hive Web.
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In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. Asking why you're not spending time to write a native app, and getting angry when you can't even be civil to one of your investors is not trolling. About your investment. Pics or it didn't happen. Where's your proof?
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About your investment.
Pics or it didn't happen. Where's your proof?
The dramatic arc of this thread was interesting, but if you don't mind, let's let sleeping dogs lie.
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July 06, 2014, 05:20:53 PM |
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About your investment.
Pics or it didn't happen. Where's your proof?
Really? Of all the far-fetched claims in the bitcoin world, your main contention is that I didn't really put 2 BTC into SF1? Why the hell would I lie about that? I lost far more than that in NeoBee. I just want to see the most likely success from SF1 actually succeed.
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Really? Of all the far-fetched claims in the bitcoin world, your main contention is that I didn't really put 2 BTC into SF1? Why the hell would I lie about that? I lost far more than that in NeoBee.
I just want to see the most likely success from SF1 actually succeed.
NanoAkron, let's please drop this topic. If you want to help us succeed, please spread the word about our work.
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Are you guys planning to make a chrome app for hivejs? By a chrome app, I mean a desktop one using chromes WebKit (if you don't know what I mean, check authy's chrome app).
Also, would it be possible for hive JS to have offline transaction on mobile?
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Are you guys planning to make a chrome app for hivejs? By a chrome app, I mean a desktop one using chromes WebKit (if you don't know what I mean, check authy's chrome app).
Also, would it be possible for hive JS to have offline transaction on mobile?
Oh wow, I didn't know that was possible, this looks interesting. Actually, I'm reading about building Chrome extensions at this very moment, but I was thinking about a classic Chrome extension with a popup, like e.g. Ghostery. Do you think an extension that launches from the dock is a better idea? Do you know if the process of building it is much different than a normal extension?
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Are you guys planning to make a chrome app for hivejs? By a chrome app, I mean a desktop one using chromes WebKit (if you don't know what I mean, check authy's chrome app).
Also, would it be possible for hive JS to have offline transaction on mobile?
Oh wow, I didn't know that was possible, this looks interesting. Actually, I'm reading about building Chrome extensions at this very moment, but I was thinking about a classic Chrome extension with a popup, like e.g. Ghostery. Do you think an extension that launches from the dock is a better idea? Do you know if the process of building it is much different than a normal extension? Personally, I think that an app that can be launched off of the dock (desktop packaged app) would be better than an extension. It shouldn't be too hard to do. Here is a link to a lifehacker post that goes in detail. http://lifehacker.com/new-chrome-apps-run-on-your-desktop-offline-and-outsid-1258080268. I'm not that skilled of a programmer, but if you want, you can PM me and we can work together.
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Will hiveJS ever have something like a username and password, or will it always be the 12 word phrase and pin?
I like the PIN, but not the 12 word phrase.
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Will hiveJS ever have something like a username and password, or will it always be the 12 word phrase and pin?
I like the PIN, but not the 12 word phrase.
AFAIK there aren't plans for any user/pass kind of authentication. That would actually be a significantly less secure solution - if you could log in with a username/password to your wallet anywhere, that would mean we'd have to keep your master private key on our server, encrypted ony with that password. If something happens to our server... poof, all money gone from all wallets. Right now we don't keep the private key on the server, it's only kept in the browser storage and (in the form of the passphrase) wherever you decide to write it down. The passphrase doesn't give access to the key that's stored somewhere else, the passphrase *is* the key. And it's implemented according to common BIP standards, so you should theoretically be able to use the same 12-word passphrase in other wallets (which obviously wouldn't work with a username/password pair).
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July 20, 2014, 10:47:12 AM |
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Will hiveJS ever have something like a username and password, or will it always be the 12 word phrase and pin?
I like the PIN, but not the 12 word phrase.
Just to add to the 12 word phrase. FYI this is known as BIP0039, and is used for generating seeds with over 128 bits - 256 bits of entropy. (You could utilize it for larger amounts, but 256 bits of entropy is a 24 word phrase, any longer would be hard to remember) So the hive-js 12 word phrase is 128bits of entropy to create the seed. Plus it uses a key derivation algorithm to prevent (aka slow down) brute forcing. User-name and password schemes require trust with the server of the service. the 12 word phrase you have is nearly impossible to brute force, and you can use it on any device with hive-js. In fact, the Android app Wallet32 uses the same algorithms, so you can input your 12 word phrase into it and use the exact same addresses as your hive-js wallet. No server will ever store your private keys, they will only exist wherever you have placed the 12 word phrase. The 4-digit PIN is used to encrypt those words and save them on your device.
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July 20, 2014, 10:51:49 AM |
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Any plans/eta of porting bip 32/39 to android?
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July 20, 2014, 10:54:09 AM |
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Any plans/eta of porting bip 32/39 to android?
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Any plans/eta of porting bip 32/39 to android?
I'm not sure about Android, but we definitely plan to bring BIP32 to Hive OSX in the summer/autumn - we're waiting for this to be included in a stable bitcoinj release, and then we'll have to spend some time adapting the UI to that.
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HD support (BIP 32 and 39) in bitcoinj is practically ready to enter beta and get real testing from real users: we're just waiting for the Bouncy Castle folks to release a much faster version of their library (because HDW means calculating far more keys than before).
For Hive, I think preparing a preview/beta of HD wallets would be quite easy at this point.
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Hive now has a public chat room on Skype. Come by and talk with us! http://is.gd/Vf0hcW (yes, that opens the room in Skype)
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Hive now has a public chat room on Skype. Come by and talk with us! http://is.gd/Vf0hcW (yes, that opens the room in Skype) I don't think I have permission to talk!
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I don't think I have permission to talk!
Try again please?
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I don't think I have permission to talk!
Try again please? Nope. Whenever I type a message and hit enter, nothing happens.
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HD support (BIP 32 and 39) in bitcoinj is practically ready to enter beta and get real testing from real users: we're just waiting for the Bouncy Castle folks to release a much faster version of their library (because HDW means calculating far more keys than before).
For Hive, I think preparing a preview/beta of HD wallets would be quite easy at this point.
hivewallet do you have any update on this? I am trying to help a hivewallet user and spent quite a bit of time talking about change addresses and using a new address each time (for privacy reasons) only to find out afterwards that Hive does not support even generating new addresses!? Anyway, once I had got over my disbelief I decided to try and find out what is going on with that and as best as I understand it, this was taked about back in 2013 as being "upcoming", now Mike Hearn is saying that it will be "quite easy at this point", and looking at your github it seems that there has been recent discussion on this. So, I am just wondering where you guys are with this? And if, as I guess you are, you have it in the pipeline soon, when might that be do you think? Anyway, thanks for making a nice user-friendly wallet P.s I could not find any test/testing/dev branches on you github, as I thought it might have been implemented in there already, but I am quite a github amateur....
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hivewallet do you have any update on this? I am trying to help a hivewallet user and spent quite a bit of time talking about change addresses and using a new address each time (for privacy reasons) only to find out afterwards that Hive does not support even generating new addresses!?
Anyway, once I had got over my disbelief I decided to try and find out what is going on with that and as best as I understand it, this was taked about back in 2013 as being "upcoming", now Mike Hearn is saying that it will be "quite easy at this point", and looking at your github it seems that there has been recent discussion on this. So, I am just wondering where you guys are with this?
And if, as I guess you are, you have it in the pipeline soon, when might that be do you think?
Sorry, I didn't have time for this yet. It's coming in the next couple of months definitely, but hard to say when exactly. Mike has been working on support for BIP32 wallets in bitcoinj for months, but it only recently got to a usable state, and there still was no stable official release with BIP32 support. In the meantime, you can use Hive Web (or soon Hive iOS) which supports BIP32 from day one.
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hivewallet do you have any update on this? I am trying to help a hivewallet user and spent quite a bit of time talking about change addresses and using a new address each time (for privacy reasons) only to find out afterwards that Hive does not support even generating new addresses!?
Anyway, once I had got over my disbelief I decided to try and find out what is going on with that and as best as I understand it, this was taked about back in 2013 as being "upcoming", now Mike Hearn is saying that it will be "quite easy at this point", and looking at your github it seems that there has been recent discussion on this. So, I am just wondering where you guys are with this?
And if, as I guess you are, you have it in the pipeline soon, when might that be do you think?
Sorry, I didn't have time for this yet. It's coming in the next couple of months definitely, but hard to say when exactly. Mike has been working on support for BIP32 wallets in bitcoinj for months, but it only recently got to a usable state, and there still was no stable official release with BIP32 support. In the meantime, you can use Hive Web (or soon Hive iOS) which supports BIP32 from day one. OK cool that is very interesting. Thanks for the update and again thanks for your work on this. Perhaps I will suggest that the user I am helping with this wallet donate a (small) amount of BTC to you guys to help with the project and to act as a test send for him, do you have a public donate address?
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really nice design ! modern looks ! interested this will really save ?
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OK cool that is very interesting. Thanks for the update and again thanks for your work on this. Perhaps I will suggest that the user I am helping with this wallet donate a (small) amount of BTC to you guys to help with the project and to act as a test send for him, do you have a public donate address?
The donation address for Hive for OS X (Hive for Mac) specifically is 1wdERgJVZhqeUVTWGmZqdorLGtFVzF1xy
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really nice design ! modern looks ! interested this will really save ?
All we can really say is, we use it every day!
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really nice design ! modern looks ! interested this will really save ?
All we can really say is, we use it every day! i try them and work good . i love looks . great work !
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Now that the Trezor hardware has officially been released, do you plan on adding support for it in Hive in the near future?
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Now that the Trezor hardware has officially been released, do you plan on adding support for it in Hive in the near future?
Definitely at some point in the future, but probably not soon...
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Very beautiful app! you can develop the same app for other cryptocurrency?
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Very beautiful app! you can develop the same app for other cryptocurrency?
Hive Web is built to support *any* cryptocurrencies. Right now it supports Bitcoin and Litecoin, but more are coming soon. You can suggest new ones here: https://github.com/hivewallet/discussions/issues/22
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Thank you! Mooncoin for exempla?
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August 20, 2014, 07:38:56 AM |
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Thank you! Mooncoin for exempla?
oh yes, Mooncoin would be cool, enough coins for everyone and very fast transaction speed, cool name and logo.
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August 20, 2014, 09:07:14 AM |
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Definitely a good thing to add Mooncoin. Stable, almost done with the larger part of the issue process and ideal for microtransactions. And a good name too.
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Hi, I am on Windows and use the web version. I know my pin, my single address given and my 12 word seed. How can I access my bitcoins in the rare case you Hive folks are all kidnapped, an atoimic bomb is thrown on you or shut down? Or something like this; you get the idea. Quote: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Private_key"In contrast, bitcoind provides a facility to import a private key without creating a sweep transaction. This is considered very dangerous, and not intended to be used even by power users or experts except in very specific cases. Bitcoins can be easily stolen at any time, from a wallet which has imported an untrusted or otherwise insecure private key - this can include private keys generated offline and never seen by someone else." Please explain in a newbie friendly way!
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August 22, 2014, 03:04:48 AM |
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If I understand things correctly: Do I only need my wallet seed (12 words) to recover my funds (and addresses; there is currently one address in the Hive wallet but I guess more will be added) from 3rd party sources, or do I need the actual address or addresses as well?
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If I understand things correctly:
Do I only need my wallet seed (12 words) to recover my funds (and addresses; there is currently one address in the Hive wallet but I guess more will be added) from 3rd party sources, or do I need the actual address or addresses as well?
I think you're confusing two versions of Hive, which are really completely independent and incompatible. Hive Mac (which this thread is about) has (for now) no 12-word seed and has only one address, and to restore the funds later you need at least one backup, e.g. in Dropbox or Time Machine (technically it doesn't have to be recent, though with an old backup you'll lose some transaction metadata). Hive Web/iOS has a 12-word seed phrase and auto-generates a new address automatically from the seed for every transaction. To back it up you only need the phrase and that is enough to restore the funds and all previously used addresses.
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August 22, 2014, 09:42:41 PM |
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Hive Mac (which this thread is about) That is true. Which is the specific thread I am supposed to post my questions, relating the web app, as a Windows user? I can't find. By the way, your 12-word seed uses the same dictionary as Electrum? Is your iOS/Web app based in any way, shape or form on Electrum?
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How much add mooncoin to Hive wallet ?
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That is true. Which is the specific thread I am supposed to post my questions, relating the web app, as a Windows user? I can't find.
I think this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663832By the way, your 12-word seed uses the same dictionary as Electrum? Is your iOS/Web app based in any way, shape or form on Electrum?
To be honest I have no idea, I haven't worked on the web wallet... And no, it's not based on Electrum, it uses a JavaScript library bitcoinjs. (Electrum doesn't even use BIP32, it uses a different, older format that I think was the inspiration for writing BIP32.)
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How much add mooncoin to Hive wallet ?
What are you asking about?
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August 24, 2014, 04:59:41 AM |
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How much add mooncoin to Hive wallet ?
What are you asking about? I think he'd like to know, what it would cost to add Mooncoin to Hive ...
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August 24, 2014, 05:50:42 AM |
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I would like to know the price to add mooncoin to web wallet Hive. Grazie
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I would like to know the price to add mooncoin to web wallet Hive. Grazie
I'm not involved in the web wallet, so I don't know what are specific plans for which coins will be supported next. I think it's rather a question of the coin's popularity, not price. The main thread for requesting support for new altcoins is https://github.com/hivewallet/discussions/issues/22, but I see you've already commented here, so to be honest I don't know if there's anything more you can do about it.
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August 25, 2014, 12:28:22 PM |
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Please Hive team developed for mooncoin web wallet i will donate to you i able to know how much is develop a web wallet
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August 25, 2014, 12:30:38 PM |
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Please Hive team developed for mooncoin web wallet i will donate to you i able to know how much is develop a web wallet
Please stop asking here, this thread is about Hive Mac, which will not have support for altcoins in the foreseeable future. Ask in the GitHub thread I've mentioned, or here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663832. Or on Twitter.
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Ok Thank you
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Hive Mac 1.4 is now available!Direct link: https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/releases/download/1.4/Hive-1.4.zipThe biggest change in this release is the transaction details popup that appears when you click a transaction on the list: As you can see it includes: transaction ID (with a link to blockchain.info), some status info, metadata from a bitcoin: URI or payment request, and also the selected fiat currency and its exchange rate at the moment of sending. The share button was moved there too. Transaction list entries (and contact list entries, since it's handled by the same code) also had a minor redesign and they look a bit more modern now without the gradient. Other changes: - payment transactions are now also broadcasted locally in case the receiving server fails to do that
- fixed matching of incoming transactions to contacts
- updated Chinese, Danish and Greek translations
And some selected changes from the 1.3.x releases if you missed those: - added a warning that support for apps will be removed in v. 1.5
- added Norwegian, Persian, Thai and Ukrainian translations
- added Google Drive backup option
- µBTC is now called “bits”
- fixed compatibility with latest Dropbox
- you can now clear data saved by Hive apps
Also, the Arabic, Hindi, Korean and Urdu translations are still badly in need of updating. And Hebrew, Indonesian, Lithuanian, Sinhala, Slovak and Slovenian translations were started, but the translators seem to have given up pretty quickly...
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October 10, 2014, 06:15:00 PM |
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I think that topic is dead; unfortunately. (See my last posts there; without a reply) No chance to learn more about Hive for Web, then? Pity
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What are the chances that the Mac version will gain support for multiple addresses? I'm currently running core, but am considering using a second wallet that syncronizes across all my devices nicely (I'd like to use something that I have a bit more control over than blockchain.info's wallet, although that one is nice to). Is there a future plan to make all the different hive versions compatible?
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What are the chances that the Mac version will gain support for multiple addresses? I'm currently running core, but am considering using a second wallet that syncronizes across all my devices nicely (I'd like to use something that I have a bit more control over than blockchain.info's wallet, although that one is nice to). Is there a future plan to make all the different hive versions compatible?
The chances are very high I'd say. I'm planning a few small 1.4.x releases, then a 1.5 that adds support for Waggle from Hive Web, and then a 2.0 release that adds support for BIP32, same way as in Hive Web, with a 12-word passphrase, address changing after every transaction, etc. There probably won't be multiple addresses as in multiple labeled subaccounts with separate balances at the beginning, but it's something that I definitely want to think about.
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October 12, 2014, 07:56:22 PM |
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Do you have plan to support Coinapult like Electrum https://github.com/coinapult/electrum ? thx edit: I think mobile app with Lock/unLock functionality will be cool and useful.
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Hmm, no, I haven't thought about that at all. I haven't even used Coinapult before. Is it something a lot of people use? That repo you linked to, is that a fork of Electrum? So the official Electrum doesn't support it?
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October 18, 2014, 03:18:21 AM |
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Hmm, no, I haven't thought about that at all. I haven't even used Coinapult before. Is it something a lot of people use? That repo you linked to, is that a fork of Electrum? So the official Electrum doesn't support it? Yeah, OP is a little mixed up. Coinapult copy&pasted electrum and added their own functionality. Electrum has not done anything to implement Coinapult.
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October 23, 2014, 08:33:48 AM |
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Is Trezor support planned in version 1.5 or near future versions?
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Is Trezor support planned in version 1.5 or near future versions?
Not anytime soon, sorry. 2.0 needs to happen first with BIP32 support, and then we'll see...
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Is Trezor support planned in version 1.5 or near future versions?
Not anytime soon, sorry. 2.0 needs to happen first with BIP32 support, and then we'll see... You also need BIP 44 support, which is an extension of BIP 32 to use trezors.
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What's going on with Hive Web?? More than +/- 48 hours had passed since the post in your Twitter that you are changing the hosting provider. Are there any updates regarding this?
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What's going on with Hive Web?? More than +/- 48 hours had passed since the post in your Twitter that you are changing the hosting provider. Are there any updates regarding this?
Its working fine right now.
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What's going on with Hive Web?? More than +/- 48 hours had passed since the post in your Twitter that you are changing the hosting provider. Are there any updates regarding this?
Only this at the moment: https://twitter.com/hivewallet/status/527859696523550720
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November 02, 2014, 05:45:23 PM |
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Do you guys use cloudflare? You can turn up the security settings and see if that helps.
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November 03, 2014, 04:45:31 PM |
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Scammers' thoughts: hmm... bitcoin related? DDOS with ransom note for bitcoin.
Reply: umm, we don't have any money... and our server is covered with DOS protection... soooooo....
Scammers: *Doesn't understand English*
I think they just translate their ransom notes in English and any other correspondence is ignored.
Scum bags.
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Hi, I've released Hive Mac 1.4.1 today. Not much has happened, but there's one thing a lot of people have asked about for a long time: private key export! (It uses the unencrypted WIF format, compatible with most other wallet apps.)
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Hi, we've created a new Twitter account specifically for Hive Mac, follow it if you're interested in any updates about the Mac app: http://twitter.com/hive_mac
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And now Hive Mac also has its own website http://mac.hivewallet.com
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Electrum 2.0 BETA is out. Can we use the seed interchangeably with Hive Web?
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Electrum 2.0 BETA is out. Can we use the seed interchangeably with Hive Web?
Hmm, I haven't played with it yet, so I don't know - I'm assuming it uses BIP32 now? If so, then probably, but it depends on what specific configuration it uses. I'll ask on our Slack.
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Electrum 2.0 BETA is out. Can we use the seed interchangeably with Hive Web?
Hmm, I haven't played with it yet, so I don't know - I'm assuming it uses BIP32 now? If so, then probably, but it depends on what specific configuration it uses. I'll ask on our Slack. Kk. It would be really useful if we could switch around between them.
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Electrum 2.0 BETA is out. Can we use the seed interchangeably with Hive Web?
Hmm, I haven't played with it yet, so I don't know - I'm assuming it uses BIP32 now? If so, then probably, but it depends on what specific configuration it uses. I'll ask on our Slack. see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=939337.msg10366268#msg10366268
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Hi Hive'rs,
Since december I have been using your service, the web service and the ipad app. Recently I have been getting "internal translation error" on each device and on each os. I have tried android and iOS app's, as well as web service on multiple platforms. On my MacBook Pro i am able to log onto the wallet but only sporadicly. When succesful and i try to get all my bitcoins out to another account I get the same "internal translation error". Any thing you guys can do to help? I have tried sending messages to the hive Facebook page, the Skype chat and the optional mail after an error in sending. I am also open for tips on different ways to get my bitcoins out.
Thank you in advance!
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Hi Hive'rs,
Since december I have been using your service, the web service and the ipad app. Recently I have been getting "internal translation error" on each device and on each os. I have tried android and iOS app's, as well as web service on multiple platforms. On my MacBook Pro i am able to log onto the wallet but only sporadicly. When succesful and i try to get all my bitcoins out to another account I get the same "internal translation error". Any thing you guys can do to help? I have tried sending messages to the hive Facebook page, the Skype chat and the optional mail after an error in sending. I am also open for tips on different ways to get my bitcoins out.
Thank you in advance!
Hi, I don't work on Hive Web so I don't know what to tell you, but I mentioned this on out internal Slack now, hopefully someone will get back to you about this.
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March 04, 2015, 12:46:28 AM |
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Hi Hive'rs,
Since december I have been using your service, the web service and the ipad app. Recently I have been getting "internal translation error" on each device and on each os. I have tried android and iOS app's, as well as web service on multiple platforms. On my MacBook Pro i am able to log onto the wallet but only sporadicly. When succesful and i try to get all my bitcoins out to another account I get the same "internal translation error". Any thing you guys can do to help? I have tried sending messages to the hive Facebook page, the Skype chat and the optional mail after an error in sending. I am also open for tips on different ways to get my bitcoins out.
Thank you in advance!
Sorry for the delay, quite a few of us have been inconveniently on vacation at the same time. To answer your query: Wei is working on a fix right now. Ca you drop your passphrase into https://hive-js.herokuapp.com/ and let us know if it works? Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience!
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October 12, 2015, 02:37:20 AM |
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80% done with hive iOS work. I want to re-adjust the tabbed bar back to the bottom and also enable scan QR. Don't know why they were removed...
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October 12, 2015, 02:48:29 AM |
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Sorry, I really didn't feel like looking through the whole thread.. but does this wallet connect to the blockchain network itself like lite-hd wallets and can perform signatures and verifications of other signatures?
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Sorry, I really didn't feel like looking through the whole thread.. but does this wallet connect to the blockchain network itself like lite-hd wallets and can perform signatures and verifications of other signatures?
Hive Mac app connects to the blockchain directly (SPV), and can sign messages. There's no verify message feature though. Hive iOS/Web is JS/browser based, so it connects to the blockchain through an external web service, and it has no sign or verify features.
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Will it have BIP44 support?
Unfortunately Hive isn't really being developed anymore. The web version might still be developed in the future, but as far as I know it's not compatible with BIP44 and it would be hard to change this without affecting existing users who have existing BIP32 wallets, so I don't think this will ever happen.
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October 18, 2015, 08:28:51 AM |
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Will it have BIP44 support?
Unfortunately Hive isn't really being developed anymore. The web version might still be developed in the future, but as far as I know it's not compatible with BIP44 and it would be hard to change this without affecting existing users who have existing BIP32 wallets, so I don't think this will ever happen. Thanks
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