NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[Uniqueorn]

Will we be given some kind of heads up regarding when the asset exchange is opening?  It'd be nice to let everyone know so we all can plan to be sitting at the computer and try to reserve our favor assets instead of these assets being taken lottery like based upon the first people to realize it's been released.  It'd probably also distribute them a little bit more fairly between people trying to pick off the good names.  Because I can think of a couple asset names that everyone would love to own.

The plan is to have a marketing campaign about it, yes.
But right now we are still undecided about some parts of it's technical design, but this'll get resorted in a couple of days (I hope), then we need to workout any bugs and then we can set a date and build up hype

[salsacz]

I am really glad that the first Nxt financial and economic analysis was finished,
so I can present you a 15-pages paper from one very smart guy:

What are the economic parameters of Nxt?

his Nxt ID for donations is:

1820734801611231561

Comments will be post to: https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,4433.0.html

Good afternoon USA, maybe there is someone who could understand this text and left some feedback much appreciated

[rdanneskjoldr]

Will we be given some kind of heads up regarding when the asset exchange is opening?  It'd be nice to let everyone know so we all can plan to be sitting at the computer and try to reserve our favor assets instead of these assets being taken lottery like based upon the first people to realize it's been released.  It'd probably also distribute them a little bit more fairly between people trying to pick off the good names.  Because I can think of a couple asset names that everyone would love to own.

Anyway, owning assets names to never use them sucks.I bought many aliases ,which could be speculation, but i find assets a more serious thing that should only be taken if you are really issuing the asset. What do you want,to have 10.000 assets which are really nothing??That would kill asset exchange,if you have to dive into thousands of assets to find something is worth > 0.

In fact, i would try to give jl777 preference to create first all the assets with a gateway, so people could knew all assets with coin name in account XXXXXXXX are safe.This exchange letting trade all the main coins is what NXT needs!!!! If you get hundreds of people trolling asset names,it will be a mess no one will want to touch.

Well, im glad its 1000 nxt  to issue an asset,it solves a part of this problem.But still, i think we need to focus to have all the main coins gateways ready with their assets,and let people know how to get to them fast and easy when we launch the AE!

So when they first use the AE,they see they can do something useful with it, instead of logging in and just click buttons and see how colourful it is.(no offense wesleyh,we all love it  )

[CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime]

Doing my own thing... we'll have a section in yBitcoin. Check out their demographic:

http://ybitcoin.net/about/


This is what I did for Peercoin for quite awhile, I'm about reaching out and making the phone calls.

[CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime]

Just heard back from the ATM guys:

http://www.coindesk.com/mexicos-first-bitcoin-atms-will-also-deal-altcoins/

"Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. Its bookmarked and noted. Right now we have other priority, but my first look at your landing page looks interesting.
I would like to discuss things further with you to a later moment. Please write me in a couple of weeks again.

Best,
Alec"

On vacation for a few weeks in Thailand, will work on some other initiatives (including meetups) when I get back in early April. Again, not looking for any type of bounty, just protecting my investment.

[xyzzyx]

Rather than beginning your sermons with a quote from Sun Tzu, begin them with nifty little tricks which the laity can investigate later. For example, did you know that `strings -n 20 /.bitcoin/blk0001.dat` dumps ASCII art portraits of both Saint Sassaman and Ben Bernanke? This art was encoded as fake public keys used in real transactions, and it can't be removed without undoing all Bitcoin transactions since it was inserted into the chain. The entire Bitcoin economy depends upon the face of the chairman of the Fed not being removed from its ledger! Isn't that clever?

-- International Journal of PoC || GTFO, Issue 0x00, a CFP with PoC (http://openwall.info/wiki/_media/people/solar/pocorgtfo00.pdf)

Actually, this is the code to dump ASCII Sassaman and ASCII Bernanke from my copy of the blockchain:

Code:

strings -n 20 blk00003.dat

[mczarnek]

Will we be given some kind of heads up regarding when the asset exchange is opening?  It'd be nice to let everyone know so we all can plan to be sitting at the computer and try to reserve our favor assets instead of these assets being taken lottery like based upon the first people to realize it's been released.  It'd probably also distribute them a little bit more fairly between people trying to pick off the good names.  Because I can think of a couple asset names that everyone would love to own.

Anyway, owning assets names to never use them sucks.I bought many aliases ,which could be speculation, but i find assets a more serious thing that should only be taken if you are really issuing the asset. What do you want, to have 10.000 assets which are really nothing??That would kill asset exchange, if you have to dive into thousands of assets to find something is worth > 0.

In fact, i would try to give jl777 preference to create first all the assets with a gateway, so people could knew all assets with coin name in account XXXXXXXX are safe.This exchange letting trade all the main coins is what NXT needs!!!! If you get hundreds of people trolling asset names,it will be a mess no one will want to touch.

I'd be fine with that too.. maybe something where if you want a specific highly wanted asset name you must submit a plan for using that, they will wait for 30 days to allow competing plans to come in, then assign it to the person they deem has the best plan?

But I have a big and very good for Nxt plan in mind, it just involves snagging up a specific asset name (or something very close to it).

In fact maybe the first week could be run like this for all assets?  Give a deadline, people say they want this asset, prove they have Nxt they are willing to pay with, and submit a proposal for how they intend to use it.  I really dislike the way all the aliases were snapped up for what 0.1 cents each or whatever Nxt was going for at the time?

[Gaman]

Regarding Asset Exchange:

1. Is there a way to give out dividends?
2. I am envisioning that there would be tons of people creating whatsoever assets, I believe a way to manage it is necessary.  Like categories? favorites?
3. I also think there should be a moderator who could flag assets that are fraudulent.

[rdanneskjoldr]

Will we be given some kind of heads up regarding when the asset exchange is opening?  It'd be nice to let everyone know so we all can plan to be sitting at the computer and try to reserve our favor assets instead of these assets being taken lottery like based upon the first people to realize it's been released.  It'd probably also distribute them a little bit more fairly between people trying to pick off the good names.  Because I can think of a couple asset names that everyone would love to own.

Anyway, owning assets names to never use them sucks.I bought many aliases ,which could be speculation, but i find assets a more serious thing that should only be taken if you are really issuing the asset. What do you want, to have 10.000 assets which are really nothing??That would kill asset exchange, if you have to dive into thousands of assets to find something is worth > 0.

In fact, i would try to give jl777 preference to create first all the assets with a gateway, so people could knew all assets with coin name in account XXXXXXXX are safe.This exchange letting trade all the main coins is what NXT needs!!!! If you get hundreds of people trolling asset names,it will be a mess no one will want to touch.

I'd be fine with that too.. maybe something where if you want a specific highly wanted asset name you must submit a plan for using that, they will wait for 30 days to allow competing plans to come in, then assign it to the person they deem has the best plan?

But I have a big and very good for Nxt plan in mind, it just involves snagging up a specific asset name (or something very close to it).

In fact maybe the first week could be run like this for all assets?  Give a deadline, people say they want this asset, prove they have Nxt they are willing to pay with, and submit a proposal for how they intend to use it.  I really dislike the way all the aliases were snapped up for what 0.1 cents each or whatever Nxt was going for at the time?

The problem is all this solutions require centralization.I would just do it with the coins, as it would be very important for all the community(i guess it could have like 90%+ agreement of the community).For the rest of things it should be first to come,first to take.I didnt thought much when i wrote my previous post,but the 1000 nxt fee avoids spam-taking all the asset names.

[Sebastien256]

Will we be given some kind of heads up regarding when the asset exchange is opening?  It'd be nice to let everyone know so we all can plan to be sitting at the computer and try to reserve our favor assets instead of these assets being taken lottery like based upon the first people to realize it's been released.  It'd probably also distribute them a little bit more fairly between people trying to pick off the good names.  Because I can think of a couple asset names that everyone would love to own.

Anyway, owning assets names to never use them sucks.I bought many aliases ,which could be speculation, but i find assets a more serious thing that should only be taken if you are really issuing the asset. What do you want, to have 10.000 assets which are really nothing??That would kill asset exchange, if you have to dive into thousands of assets to find something is worth > 0.

In fact, i would try to give jl777 preference to create first all the assets with a gateway, so people could knew all assets with coin name in account XXXXXXXX are safe.This exchange letting trade all the main coins is what NXT needs!!!! If you get hundreds of people trolling asset names,it will be a mess no one will want to touch.

I'd be fine with that too.. maybe something where if you want a specific highly wanted asset name you must submit a plan for using that, they will wait for 30 days to allow competing plans to come in, then assign it to the person they deem has the best plan?

But I have a big and very good for Nxt plan in mind, it just involves snagging up a specific asset name (or something very close to it).

In fact maybe the first week could be run like this for all assets?  Give a deadline, people say they want this asset, prove they have Nxt they are willing to pay with, and submit a proposal for how they intend to use it.  I really dislike the way all the aliases were snapped up for what 0.1 cents each or whatever Nxt was going for at the time?

Personnaly, here what I think about to register an asset in Nxt.
I like the idea to submit a proposal to register an asset. I think that to register an asset, a vote with nxt voting feature should be require. Proposal could be submitted on a forum page prior to the vote.
I think that this could avoid a total mess with registering many not usefull asset.

A 1000nxt currently is not very high. Im not sure that this will avoid spamming.

Can this idea may be brainstorm?

[EvilDave]

Just heard back from the ATM guys:

http://www.coindesk.com/mexicos-first-bitcoin-atms-will-also-deal-altcoins/

"Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. Its bookmarked and noted. Right now we have other priority, but my first look at your landing page looks interesting.
I would like to discuss things further with you to a later moment. Please write me in a couple of weeks again.

Best,
Alec"

On vacation for a few weeks in Thailand, will work on some other initiatives (including meetups) when I get back in early April. Again, not looking for any type of bounty, just protecting my investment.

Have fun, thanks for all your work so far. If you're lucky, u might come back to a very nice NXT surprise......

In the meantime, is Nifty_Nikel still keeping Cointropolis running ?
Because I have one very easy idea for NXT adoption/promotion:
Get NXT accepted, as a simple first gen currency, by major online games.
Payment module from Damelons guy is almost ready to go, and getting "NXT accepted here" on the log-in screens for WoW, EVE, WoT, etc.,  would be major publicity if nothing else. I've got no time to run with this, so maybe u guys (or anyone else) would like to pick it up and take it further.

[CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime]

Just heard back from the ATM guys:

http://www.coindesk.com/mexicos-first-bitcoin-atms-will-also-deal-altcoins/

"Hi,

Thanks for your suggestion. Its bookmarked and noted. Right now we have other priority, but my first look at your landing page looks interesting.
I would like to discuss things further with you to a later moment. Please write me in a couple of weeks again.

Best,
Alec"

On vacation for a few weeks in Thailand, will work on some other initiatives (including meetups) when I get back in early April. Again, not looking for any type of bounty, just protecting my investment.

Have fun, thanks for all your work so far. If you're lucky, u might come back to a very nice NXT surprise......

In the meantime, is Nifty_Nikel still keeping Cointropolis running ?
Because I have one very easy idea for NXT adoption/promotion:
Get NXT accepted, as a simple first gen currency, by major online games.
Payment module from Damelons guy is almost ready to go, and getting "NXT accepted here" on the log-in screens for WoW, EVE, WoT, etc.,  would be major publicity if nothing else. I've got no time to run with this, so maybe u guys (or anyone else) would like to pick it up and take it further.

Good hearing from you EvilDave. CoinTropolis has moved on to other projects, however, I'm still doing a few things to help protect my investment on the side. The payment module mixed in with gaming is fantastic, that's the type of outreach that needs to happen for market penetration.

This sounds like project the marketing committee could run with fairly quickly.

[mczarnek]

Regarding Asset Exchange:

1. Is there a way to give out dividends?
2. I am envisioning that there would be tons of people creating whatsoever assets, I believe a way to manage it is necessary.  Like categories? favorites?
3. I also think there should be a moderator who could flag assets that are fraudulent.

1) I know BCNext at some point was coming up with a way that you could indeed give out dividends.
2) Great idea!  Should be currencies, stocks, assets, and I'm probably missing a couple. Not sure if that's being worked on.
3) Agreed, needs to be some kind of system for flagging assets as fraudulent and giving people a trust meter.

[EvilDave]

@Justabit:

No worries, mate, go have some fun in the sun. Thanks again for what u guys achieved, btw.
I may not have agreed with some aspects of your work (SoL....hmmmm   ) but on the whole Cointropolis did some good work.
Hows the Trek convention coming on?

I'll just 'volunteer' the next guy who opens his mouth about NXT mainstream acceptance to run the game payments idea.

[Uniqueorn]

@Justabit:

No worries, mate, go have some fun in the sun. Thanks again for what u guys achieved, btw.
I may not have agreed with some aspects of your work (SoL....hmmmm   ) but on the whole Cointropolis did some good work.
Hows the Trek convention coming on?

I'll just 'volunteer' the next guy who opens his mouth about NXT mainstream acceptance to run the game payments idea.

I understand the cointroplois crew very well.
Dirty tactics was used by people who in the marketing committee to be elected (and the community didn't mind it, called it politics) and now NXT pay the consequences. We have a elected marketing committee but the price is the lowest it has been in 2 months. Last time me contacting BTER lead to them adding us which saved us, what will save us this time?
AE? It'll be after Mastercoin, Invictus, Counterparty.. so I doubt it'll be enough.


I think I was the first guy to propose to use NXT as ingame currency, feel free to approach any of the big game devs. Got nothing to lose

[mczarnek]

Anyone know if someone giving out assets would be able to change the number of assets?  Anyone know?

I'd like to issue assets and destroy them on the fly so that the block chain can record exactly how many assets have been issued.

[joefox]

I don't think the understanding of the purpose of the Nxt committees is clear.

The committees administer funds.  They do not provide strategic direction for Nxt.  Anyone with a proposal that requires funding can put one forward, and the committee will assess it.  That is what the committees were elected to do.   They do not "run" anything, and do not own the direction of Nxt.  

There is nothing stopping anyone from doing any work outside of the elected committees.  The committees provide FUNDING for work that people want to do.  So: keep on trucking, y'all, and submit a proposal for funding when you think funding will help.

[Blocktree]

OMG we are doomed...

vs.

here they are  

(postimg.org/bi42gwk03/doomed.jpg vs postimg.org/fk4zwl2qp/nxtdead.jpg + using black circles)

You are a fucking stupid idiotic retarded moron and thief.

me emule

welcome on my ignore list, congratz you are in company of emule there.

No matter who is emule,what he said is the fact:NXT IS BEING DEAD.

[MadCow]

OMG we are doomed...

vs.

here they are  

(postimg.org/bi42gwk03/doomed.jpg vs postimg.org/fk4zwl2qp/nxtdead.jpg + using black circles)

You are a fucking stupid idiotic retarded moron and thief.

me emule

welcome on my ignore list, congratz you are in company of emule there.

No matter who is emule,what he said is the fact:NXT IS BEING DEAD.

Great first post Blocktree - any contribution with the 'grey fox' sucking back the beer gets a +1 from me!!

edit: please stick around, NXT needs more clowns

[Pouncer]

Will we be given some kind of heads up regarding when the asset exchange is opening?  It'd be nice to let everyone know so we all can plan to be sitting at the computer and try to reserve our favor assets instead of these assets being taken lottery like based upon the first people to realize it's been released.  It'd probably also distribute them a little bit more fairly between people trying to pick off the good names.  Because I can think of a couple asset names that everyone would love to own.

Anyway, owning assets names to never use them sucks.I bought many aliases ,which could be speculation, but i find assets a more serious thing that should only be taken if you are really issuing the asset. What do you want,to have 10.000 assets which are really nothing??That would kill asset exchange,if you have to dive into thousands of assets to find something is worth > 0.

In fact, i would try to give jl777 preference to create first all the assets with a gateway, so people could knew all assets with coin name in account XXXXXXXX are safe.This exchange letting trade all the main coins is what NXT needs!!!! If you get hundreds of people trolling asset names,it will be a mess no one will want to touch.

Well, im glad its 1000 nxt  to issue an asset,it solves a part of this problem.But still, i think we need to focus to have all the main coins gateways ready with their assets,and let people know how to get to them fast and easy when we launch the AE!

So when they first use the AE,they see they can do something useful with it, instead of logging in and just click buttons and see how colourful it is.(no offense wesleyh,we all love it  )

Allowing a first come first served method for asset name registration will result in squatting & non-meaningful/potentially misleading names. I suggest we use a system generated incrementing number starting from 101 as the unique asset ID. Asset Issuer can append any tag to the numerical ID.
eg:
115:BTC [ Asset description]
116:BTC [ Asset description]
117:ABC [ Asset description]

Asset ID 1-100 could be reserved for special assets.