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Dev/infra/porn-committee should *ensure* that CIYAM *stays* with Nxt (not only as a consultant) and get some *help* by capable programmers. Phaser includes Account Control.
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Come-from-Beyond
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March 20, 2014, 05:12:25 PM |
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Dev/infra/porn-committee should *ensure* that CIYAM *stays* with Nxt (not only as a consultant) and get some *help* by capable programmers. Phaser includes Account Control.
Either CfB doesn't understand the english language or Phaser includes Account Control Both |
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landomata
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March 20, 2014, 05:14:45 PM |
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As long as we keep the Klingons off the starboard bow.
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joefox
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March 20, 2014, 05:29:16 PM |
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I would like for us to try and come up with a "NXT Mission Statement".
I actually think this is a fruitless exercise. A mission statement is only as good as the community/group that buys into it and lives by it. I'm a very pragmatic fella (and one hell of a socialist) but I don't think "mission statements" and "decentralized communities" mix very well. You may very well be able to arrive at the most fantastic mission statement for Nxt imaginable, but you can never force anyone to adhere to it. |
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brooklynbtc
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March 20, 2014, 05:35:13 PM |
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I got 151 yesterday, and 147 this morning. keep it up! |
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bitcoinpaul
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March 20, 2014, 05:37:57 PM |
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I would like for us to try and come up with a "NXT Mission Statement".
I actually think this is a fruitless exercise. A mission statement is only as good as the community/group that buys into it and lives by it. I'm a very pragmatic fella (and one hell of a socialist) but I don't think "mission statements" and "decentralized communities" mix very well. You may very well be able to arrive at the most fantastic mission statement for Nxt imaginable, but you can never force anyone to adhere to it. I think it is a nice exercise. And who know's what the results will be... |
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joefox
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March 20, 2014, 05:38:05 PM |
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I'm all for promotion, but let's focus on facts, shall we? The PoS forging mechanism is lightweight, but issues of bandwidth and disk space must also be considered. Running a node means having a copy of the blockchain. Many devices do not have enough local storage to allow this. What this guy recently learned is wrong; Nxt is not Turing-complete. Nxt AT is planned to be Turing-complete, but it is a layer on top of Nxt. |
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bitcoinpaul
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March 20, 2014, 05:42:54 PM |
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but it is a layer on top of Nxt.
Didn't know that. Thought it would get implemented once it works. |
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joefox
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March 20, 2014, 05:44:28 PM |
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but it is a layer on top of Nxt.
Didn't know that. Thought it would get implemented once it works. No. This is contrary to the whole architecture of Nxt. |
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bitcoinpaul
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March 20, 2014, 05:45:47 PM |
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I thought there was magic involved. Like with Phasers.
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Come-from-Beyond
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March 20, 2014, 05:48:34 PM |
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but it is a layer on top of Nxt.
Didn't know that. Thought it would get implemented once it works. No. This is contrary to the whole architecture of Nxt. It's planned to be implemented as an integral part of the core. |
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Conurtrol
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March 20, 2014, 05:50:55 PM |
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For your leisure time- A book called "Computing with Quantum Cats" by John Gribbin. Starts with Turing and goes all the way to the latest developments in Quantum Computing. Written with the lay person in mind. Interesting and enjoyable read.
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joefox
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March 20, 2014, 05:51:35 PM |
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but it is a layer on top of Nxt.
Didn't know that. Thought it would get implemented once it works. No. This is contrary to the whole architecture of Nxt. It's planned to be implemented as an integral part of the core. You are KIDDING me. BCNext intentionally designed Nxt without scripts and predicates, and now we're adding Turing-completeness to the Nxt core? |
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rickyjames
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March 20, 2014, 05:51:50 PM |
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I got 151 yesterday, and 147 this morning. keep it up! I am very curious about the results that are going to come from this. When somebody states "I got X NXT", could you please also state the Mhash/sec of the rig you used and how long you ran it to get the NXT? |
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bitcoinpaul
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March 20, 2014, 05:52:34 PM |
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but it is a layer on top of Nxt.
Didn't know that. Thought it would get implemented once it works. No. This is contrary to the whole architecture of Nxt. It's planned to be implemented as an integral part of the core. You are KIDDING me. BCNext intentionally designed Nxt without scripts and predicates, and now we're adding Turing-completeness to the Nxt core? afaik it is not turing-complete. |
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salsacz
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March 20, 2014, 05:53:26 PM |
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Many devices do not have enough local storage to allow this.
with multiple paralel blockchains and blockchain shrinking you can |
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Come-from-Beyond
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March 20, 2014, 05:54:48 PM |
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You are KIDDING me. BCNext intentionally designed Nxt without scripts and predicates, and now we're adding Turing-completeness to the Nxt core?
AT don't require scripts nor predicates, they r optional. So we lose none of the advantages of Nxt simplified processing approach. |
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salsacz
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March 20, 2014, 05:55:49 PM |
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Pls, build one-click Nxt app maker - a lego and build one-click altcoins-maker for Nxt  |
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joefox
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March 20, 2014, 05:56:29 PM |
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Many devices do not have enough local storage to allow this.
with multiple paralel blockchains and blockchain shrinking you can Yes. And these things exist NOW? No they don't. Promote things that ARE. Not things that WILL BE. This is the source of the "bait and switch" complaint that BrianNowhere expressed yesterday and was lambasted for. Please: let's not turn Nxt marketing into the same kind of dream-land wish-list hyping that traditional marketing is. Re: the Turing complete thing: is this true or not? Because I think not:EDIT: clarified by CfB (thanks!!): AT don't require scripts nor predicates, they r optional. So we lose none of the advantages of Nxt simplified processing approach.
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