NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[instacalm]

Keep getting -bash: ./nodeminer: Permission denied

chmod +x nodeminer

[salsacz]

Which brings me to some important questions about where are we heading with charity marketing:
Is SoL going to be the "official" NXT charity?
Are we going to make an ongoing commitment to them, or move on to another good cause after we hit the target?
Are multiple charity projects a good idea?
Does any one have any suggestions for another charity to support?

I think it would be better to support 10 charities by 10.000 than 1 by 100.000. 1 would be nice if it was some famous or viral charity. Tons of Nxters already suggested to donate for Wikileaks foundation. If Nxt is going to become the whole platform for all decentralized applications and internet, it would be nice to support those who fight for decentralized internet and get their attention. + Wikileaks provides huge media attention and contacts.

Some people mentioned Electronic Frontier Foundation  https://www.eff.org/ and it is about the rights on the internet. So it is followed by 200.000 people from crypto and digital medias. EFF already accepts Bitcoin (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/05/thank-you-bitcoin-community) and has got 3xmore followers on Facebook and 400x more followers on Twitter (180.000) than songsoflove.org. We have the same goal here - to have internet without censorship of the governments. Nxt will provide it.

Other charities we might focus on are the green ones, since Nxt is not only about fight against controll of the governments, but also fight for lower electricity spent in crypto world.

[Come-from-Beyond]

I'm preparing a new test version. The testnet will be reset in ~8 hours.

reset? so we loose all assets / balances again?

Yes. If it's necessary to keep them then I could do a full reset later (in several days) but we still need to do final testing with reset blockchain.

[Come-from-Beyond]

any detailed info of test on WIN?

What is WIN?

[allwelder]

Whoever has testnet acct 8045498363545361273, I am seeing the pings on my server. You are probably running ubuntu?
It seems there are some problems with Windows and maybe even Mac.

OK, it was a server side problem. I got it working on Mac, but I cant test on windows. I was seeing the same error on the Mac, so maybe it works on Windows now. I am not sure how many requests the server side can handle, it was designed for LAN, not for large number of simultaneous connections. If it dies while I am sleeping, as long as the nodeminer is running, you wont lose the nodecoins.

James

Edit: I am seeing 13997163105778396158 and 8045498363545361273 now. Can either of you test to see if you get the nodecoin Asset after sending in 1 NXT to the nodecoin server acct 18232225178877143084. Please report if you get the coins. It will happen on the next block after the block with the payment

any detailed info or instruction for test nodecoin on Win?

[allwelder]

any detailed info of test on WIN?

What is WIN?

Sorry for my mistake,I mean how to test nodecoin on windows system?

[swartzfeger]

Keep getting -bash: ./nodeminer: Permission denied

chmod +x nodeminer

You're a rockstar. Don't know much about OS X *nix... I tried sudo but that didn't work. chmod did the trick! Thanks!

[MyZhre]

any detailed info of test on WIN?

What is WIN?

Sorry for my mistake,I mean how to test nodecoin on windows system?

You need compile yourself, I guess

[swartzfeger]

Funny how everyone types nodeminder :-)

Yeah, that was my *first* mistake

[abctc]

...
If your node refuses to accept it, this means you are on a fork. Your base target is probably very high too, another indication of being on the wrong fork.

If it doesn't recover by itself, you will need to delete the nxt_db folder and redownload the blockchain.

What is wrong with the consensus mechanism?

- yes, it would be nice to hear the answer. How can it happens, that node "doesn't recover by itself" ?  If so, that it is definitely something wrong with the consensus mechanism ...

[fmiboy]

guys, testnet is down for reset... I suppose, nodeminer won't work!!!

[abctc]

I think it would be better to support 10 charities by 10.000 than 1 by 100.000. 1 would be nice if it was some famous or viral charity.

+100.       Who knows SoL ?..  

[bitcoinpaul]

BCNext's plan for nxt is not to be a currency but instead the coins ON TOP of nxt should be. .. I want opinions.

-

The 2nd part of BCNext's plan - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=458036.0

... I like these ideas but most of the community don't, IMO.

Edit: Well, we have an option not to follow his plan...

BCNext's plan for nxt is not to be a currency but instead the coins ON TOP of nxt should be. I say give Nxt high divisibility (in the future), reduce fees and see what the market will do with it. I want opinions.

[Labteck]

BCNext's plan for nxt is not to be a currency but instead the coins ON TOP of nxt should be. .. I want opinions.

-

The 2nd part of BCNext's plan - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=458036.0

... I like these ideas but most of the community don't, IMO.

Edit: Well, we have an option not to follow his plan...

BCNext's plan for nxt is not to be a currency but instead the coins ON TOP of nxt should be. I say give Nxt high divisibility (in the future), reduce fees and see what the market will do with it. I want opinions.

why to change BCNEXT design plan? just asking..

[pandaisftw]

BCNext's plan for nxt is not to be a currency but instead the coins ON TOP of nxt should be. .. I want opinions.

-

The 2nd part of BCNext's plan - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=458036.0

... I like these ideas but most of the community don't, IMO.

Edit: Well, we have an option not to follow his plan...

BCNext's plan for nxt is not to be a currency but instead the coins ON TOP of nxt should be. I say give Nxt high divisibility (in the future), reduce fees and see what the market will do with it. I want opinions.

why to change BCNEXT design plan? just asking..

Not change, but you don't have to follow it 100%. Everyone has their own opinions, so just everyone contribute what they think is best and see what we end up with

(So far it's looking pretty good)

[bitcoinpaul]

Which brings me to some important questions about where are we heading with charity marketing:
Is SoL going to be the "official" NXT charity?
Are we going to make an ongoing commitment to them, or move on to another good cause after we hit the target?
Are multiple charity projects a good idea?
Does any one have any suggestions for another charity to support?

I think it would be better to support 10 charities by 10.000 than 1 by 100.000. 1 would be nice if it was some famous or viral charity.

+1

[swartzfeger]

I think it would be better to support 10 charities by 10.000 than 1 by 100.000. 1 would be nice if it was some famous or viral charity.

+100.       Who knows SoL ?..  

Wounded Warriors, Make-a-Wish, Locks of Love... lots of charities (at least in N. America) that would generate social media buzz. Not trying to detract from SoL at all.

I was invited to a Wounded Warrior charity event held around Christmas. It was a last minute invite, and my fiancé and I thought it would be fun; I had no idea what to expect. The turnout was staggering; I was floored by the passion and support of the attendees.

Part of me feels like a dirty little monkey trying to find the most 'effective' charity for generating social media buzz... I'll bow out of this part of the conversation. Nxt helping any cause or charity is a good thing, regardless of metrics/outcome.

[Come-from-Beyond]

...
If your node refuses to accept it, this means you are on a fork. Your base target is probably very high too, another indication of being on the wrong fork.

If it doesn't recover by itself, you will need to delete the nxt_db folder and redownload the blockchain.

What is wrong with the consensus mechanism?

- yes, it would be nice to hear the answer. How can it happens, that node "doesn't recover by itself" ?  If so, that it is definitely something wrong with the consensus mechanism ...

Only 720 block depth for autorecovery is allowed.

[Uniqueorn]

In terms of charity getting exposure the sad truth is that you have to "play on tragedy".
Meaning you have to wait for something awful to happen that grabs the news' attention and then donate towards it and hope that some journalists don't have anything better to do than to draw light to the donation being "exotic" and worth writing about because it came from this new thing called "cryptocurrencies" instead of normal fiat.
Sadly this is a fact of marketing...

I'm sure SoL can get some attention and of course donating to charities should above all be about the charity itself and not marketing.
Which makes it a very icky issue because you profit from someone elses bad fortune, obviously it's a win-win, but then you have to find something that captures the attention

[sepehr]

Here are the last pieces of the video interview that my buddy Leon Fu and I did with Anon136 about nxt:

What Is The Difference Between The Bitcoin (BTC) Blockchain Vs. The Nextcoin (NXT) Blockchain?
http://prisonorfreedom.com/what-is-the-difference-between-the-bitcoin-btc-blockchain-vs-the-nextcoin-nxt-blockchain/

Why Were Security Flaws Purposely Put Into The Nextcoin (NXT)'s Source Code By It's Developers?
http://prisonorfreedom.com/why-were-security-flaws-purposely-put-into-the-nextcoin-nxts-source-code-by-its-developers/

Who Are The Key Players & Programmers Of The Nextcoin (NXT) Source Code?
http://prisonorfreedom.com/who-are-the-key-players-programmers-of-the-nextcoin-nxt-source-code/

Should Investors Be Worried About Nextcoin (NXT)'S Price Volatility?
http://prisonorfreedom.com/should-investors-be-worried-about-nextcoin-nxts-price-volatility/

I hope these videos with Anon136 will help to educate new adopters and investors of Nxt.

Tai Zen

Thanks Tai Zen, published in the wiki:

http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/External_Videos