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February 19, 2014, 04:10:22 PM
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Quiet, pin.



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February 19, 2014, 04:10:29 PM
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I checked this signature, it says "Signature made Sat 15 Feb 2014 12:30:29 AM CST"
but the post is made before that. did I miss something?

Something wrong with his time machine, imho.

Jean-Luc, can you confirm this? I am always afraid of getting the wrong software.


mmmmm communication with DEV apparently will not be like with CfB when he is gone, we have to fix this. I imagin people start panicing, wall tumblibng down earthquakes, sellllll sellllllll doomsday scenarios when no answer within 3 minutes Cheesy

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February 19, 2014, 04:10:38 PM
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you left out: I just hope that TF can be proven to have no attack vector (beyond a 90% one). Grin

An important qualification - and I hope we are going to employ someone with the appropriate ability and reputation to audit this (I have already said I would contribute 5 BTC towards this).

With CIYAM anyone can create 100% generated C++ web applications in literally minutes.

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February 19, 2014, 04:15:27 PM
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you left out: I just hope that TF can be proven to have no attack vector (beyond a 90% one). Grin

An important qualification - and I hope we are going to employ someone with the appropriate ability and reputation to audit this (I have already said I would contribute 5 BTC towards this).


speaking of, are we still searching?

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February 19, 2014, 04:19:20 PM
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NXT-E.COM is the best NXT exchange web site.

[NXT]<---> BTC[LTC][Doge][Flappy]

auto deposit/withdraw all coin ~~~~  fast ~~~~  and free !!!
Low Fee: Only as low as 0.15%;
we are promoting our exchange to every famous community in china!


Nxt-e.com has the following features:     

1. Excellent UI. Fast response and great user experience.
2. Strong extension ability. We are able to add many types of coins in the future easily.
3. Low Fee: Only as low as 0.15%;
4. Auto deposit/withdraw.  Deposit/withdraw are automatically processed and got confirmed as quickly as networks. We do not change fee for deposit or withdraw. But networks do.
5. Mobile supported. Full responsive pages get you monitor/trade coins anywhere anytime.
6. Security. We use SSL for the whole site, and have employ Amazon servers to run our web site. Web site, database and password protected wallets are separated on different server to make sure that any server that is hacked will not breach the whole security and steal the coins.


We have 10+ years full-time developers to develop and maintain the web site as well as 2+ years cryptocoins managers to run the web site.

more: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=453580.0     Grin Smiley


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February 19, 2014, 04:20:39 PM
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Promotion in China
allwelder pretty dry
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February 19, 2014, 04:21:35 PM
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you left out: I just hope that TF can be proven to have no attack vector (beyond a 90% one). Grin

An important qualification - and I hope we are going to employ someone with the appropriate ability and reputation to audit this (I have already said I would contribute 5 BTC towards this).


speaking of, are we still searching?

Still searching auditor for

1. Curve+Sign implementaion
2. crypto class
?. what is it ciyam wants again?
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February 19, 2014, 04:28:01 PM
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Hash: SHA1

Release 0.7.6

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.7.6.zip

sha256: c219d6a13c870ea7f454fe1e91efe6c6098bed767156aa8921aad0bebe9fe79a


Change log:

Compact the database at every shutdown. This should help reduce the size
of the nxt_db directory after the first run, check the before and after
disk usage.

Prevent duplicate peer listings in the known peers and blacklisted peers
frames.

Prevent a potential duplicate account key attack, of the type described
here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397183.msg4569817#msg4569817

Added Voting System, not yet enabled.

Some refactoring of the Block and Transaction classes.

Asset exchange bugfixes from the test network and more API requests.

Improved validation of transactions to prevent wrong blacklisting of
peers, and to better enforce transaction validity.


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February 19, 2014, 04:31:03 PM
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News about TaPoS: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RLcjSXWuU9vBJzzqLEXVACSCdn8zXKTTJRN_LfoCjNY/edit?pli=1

The author suggests a real penalty for accounts not mining within a year or so: they pay a fee.

Somehow, I like that.

Would be great if we could get this guy to help us with Nxt DAC.

I fear he has his own plan with BitShares.

Penalizing people for not forging with their accounts is detrimental.  There are many reasons people don't forge with their accounts.

If you want to drive people away from Nxt, implement this.

Well, if implemented correctly, the client/node of the person can do it automatically, because of TF.

Conceptually, I like the idea because I keeps the system distributed over time.

How an correct implementation would look like is another question. One could also increase the fees for that account. Either, you pay more for a transaction because you are not helping to stabilize the system or you stabilize the system yourself.

Don't see what's wrong with that if implemented correctly. It's more like an incentive.
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February 19, 2014, 04:34:10 PM
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I checked this signature, it says "Signature made Sat 15 Feb 2014 12:30:29 AM CST"
but the post is made before that. did I miss something?
Something is wrong in your time or timezone settings. I checked the signature of the post you quoted again, and it is from Fri 14 Feb, same as my original post. All EU and US timezones were still in Friday at that time, the hour and minute match so it is a timezone issue.


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February 19, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
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Come-from-Beyond, how difficult would it be to add a feature to the asset exchange allowing accounts to trust other accounts for a certain asset up to a specific amount?  The system would have to be able to handle shifting debt balances.

Why not trusting the person himself?

If you want to help a person, lend him some money. If he is trustworthy, he will give it back to you.

If you trust someone's account, you are trusting him.  The reason why this should be implemented via code in the AE is so the debt transference is automatic which allows for real-time accounting.

Why not implementing a smart contract for that?

In more tangible words: a specialized decentralized notary as I described it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=458036.msg5211090#msg5211090

That notary handles the low-level transaction stuff whereas the people can loan NXTs and other assets to somebody. As far as I can see, it's not a part of the core but a use-case implemented on top of AE and AT.
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February 19, 2014, 04:36:16 PM
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Release 0.7.6

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.7.6.zip

sha256: c219d6a13c870ea7f454fe1e91efe6c6098bed767156aa8921aad0bebe9fe79a


Change log:

Compact the database at every shutdown. This should help reduce the size
of the nxt_db directory after the first run, check the before and after
disk usage.

Prevent duplicate peer listings in the known peers and blacklisted peers
frames.

Prevent a potential duplicate account key attack, of the type described
here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397183.msg4569817#msg4569817

Added Voting System, not yet enabled.

Some refactoring of the Block and Transaction classes.

Asset exchange bugfixes from the test network and more API requests.

Improved validation of transactions to prevent wrong blacklisting of
peers, and to better enforce transaction validity.


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Big thank you for that one.

Waiting for nxtcrypto to update accordingly.
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February 19, 2014, 04:37:30 PM
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Technical question:

When a node gets somebody's private key, it starts forging. That's for sure.

What happens if somebody else sends his private key to that very node? Will it start forging for that account, too? Will it stop forging for the first account? And last but not least, how many accounts can a node forge for?

bump for @JL
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February 19, 2014, 04:38:25 PM
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@JL

How come that disconnected peers (red flag icon) appear in the list of active peers?
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February 19, 2014, 04:42:34 PM
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Code:
[2014-02-19 17:34:46.143] Genesis block not in database, starting from scratch
[2014-02-19 17:34:46.185] Scanning blockchain...
[2014-02-19 17:34:46.235] DEBUG: block 0
[2014-02-19 17:34:46.235] ...Done
[2014-02-19 17:34:46.241] NRS 0.7.6 started successfully.
[2014-02-19 17:38:05.945] DEBUG: Generate block failed: Previous block id doesn'
t match
[2014-02-19 17:38:06.811] DEBUG: Account 12088507821025750338 generated an incor
rect block.
[2014-02-19 17:38:08.592] DEBUG: Account 12088507821025750338 generated block 18
179236451186264783
[2014-02-19 17:38:49.529] DEBUG: Invalid transaction attachment:
{"message":""}
[2014-02-19 17:39:05.914] DEBUG: Invalid transaction attachment:
{"message":""}
[2014-02-19 17:40:16.537] DEBUG: Invalid transaction attachment:
{"message":""}
[2014-02-19 17:41:01.844] DEBUG: Invalid transaction attachment:
{"message":""}

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February 19, 2014, 04:46:22 PM
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For those not following the AT topic that might still be interested:

http://ciyam.org/nxt/

It is still a work in progress but at least you can see that progress is being made (I know that in Nxt land progress is generally measured in days rather than weeks or months).

We have already come up with some interesting ideas beyond the two current use cases such as a "Term Deposit" AT that would earn you NXT by leasing your forging power for x blocks then return the initial balance + forging interest to you and I think James will probably blow everyone's mind with some of his ideas.

The more I look at the flexibility of the Nxt design the more I think it really is the "next" thing. I just hope that TF can be proven to have no attack vector (beyond a 90% stake ownership one).


Fantastic!

I'll reiterate my lawyer's-view request to think about other attributes of ownership that can be separated from an asset and dealt with independently in addition to forging rights. For example: the ability to separate and transfer voting rights in the event a voting system is implemented, the ability to give a third party a blocking right over your disposition of an asset, such that you can't transfer it without the third party's consent, or the ability to permit and control copies of digital assets (i.e. copyright principles).

Much of IP and real property law is taught and practiced by reference to the concept of a "bundle of rights," whereby ownership of an asset is actually an amalgamation of distinct rights in and to the asset, each of which can be separated and used independently in more sophisticated economic and contractual relationships. And the vast majority of pure contractual relationships in modern finance involve contracting parties agreeing to treat non-IP and real property assets similarly (securitizations and other structured finance transactions rely on a bewildering variety of fine-grained divisions of rights and obligations vis-a-vis financial assets).

Enabling even a small subset of these concepts at the protocol level (or in clever AT and/or multi-signature approaches) would likely open a floodgate of innovative reallocation of trust to the blockchain among real-world economic actors.
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February 19, 2014, 04:47:51 PM
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Can someone send me links to any secure online Nxt wallets available?  Working with a couple exchanges to add Nxt and want to make it easy for their end users.  Thanks.
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February 19, 2014, 04:48:11 PM
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What happens if somebody else sends his private key to that very node? Will it start forging for that account, too? Will is stop forging for the first account? And last but not least, how many accounts can a node forge for?
There is no limit, it will forge for all those accounts. To prevent overloading the node with random bogus secret phrases, those have to match existing accounts, which have had at least one incoming or outgoing transaction.

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I checked this signature, it says "Signature made Sat 15 Feb 2014 12:30:29 AM CST"
but the post is made before that. did I miss something?
Something is wrong in your time or timezone settings. I checked the signature of the post you quoted again, and it is from Fri 14 Feb, same as my original post. All EU and US timezones were still in Friday at that time, the hour and minute match so it is a timezone issue.




Hello JL -

is there an api call that returns all api calls, or is it possible to access the javadoc @ https://nxt.airdns.org:7875/doc/ to get a list of all api calls? I am a bit panicky on missing out on important things, e.g. as with the vote thingy, which I only just picked up en passant


Thanks for the good work!

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                            http://holms.cloudapp.net:6874/nxt?requestType=getPollIds
                            http://holms.cloudapp.net:6874/nxt?requestType=getPoll&poll=9012989318636877714
                            
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February 19, 2014, 04:49:34 PM
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For those not following the AT topic that might still be interested:

http://ciyam.org/nxt/

It is still a work in progress but at least you can see that progress is being made (I know that in Nxt land progress is generally measured in days rather than weeks or months).

We have already come up with some interesting ideas beyond the two current use cases such as a "Term Deposit" AT that would earn you NXT by leasing your forging power for x blocks then return the initial balance + forging interest to you and I think James will probably blow everyone's mind with some of his ideas.

The more I look at the flexibility of the Nxt design the more I think it really is the "next" thing. I just hope that TF can be proven to have no attack vector (beyond a 90% stake ownership one).


Fantastic!

I'll reiterate my lawyer's-view request to think about other attributes of ownership that can be separated from an asset and dealt with independently in addition to forging rights. For example: the ability to separate and transfer voting rights in the event a voting system is implemented, the ability to give a third party a blocking right over your disposition of an asset, such that you can't transfer it without the third party's consent, or the ability to permit and control copies of digital assets (i.e. copyright principles).

Much of IP and real property law is taught and practiced by reference to the concept of a "bundle of rights," whereby ownership of an asset is actually an amalgamation of distinct rights in and to the asset, each of which can be separated and used independently in more sophisticated economic and contractual relationships. And the vast majority of pure contractual relationships in modern finance involve contracting parties agreeing to treat non-IP and real property assets similarly (securitizations and other structured finance transactions rely on a bewildering variety of fine-grained divisions of rights and obligations vis-a-vis financial assets).

Enabling even a small subset of these concepts at the protocol level (or in clever AT and/or multi-signature approaches) would likely open a floodgate of innovative reallocation of trust to the blockchain among real-world economic actors.

Great ideas. Smiley

It should not be considered core functionality but it's easily implemented by AE and AT.

I like that and would even contribute as a developer if you are interested.
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