NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[okaynow]

Yeah, you may have seen this before.  I'll be putting it up every ten pages or so.  It's one of those "legitimate, transparent process" things.

[nxtsky]

Shit, that is bad!  
Solutions? Maybe a DAC???
Awaken man's switch??  

Dunno. Time to invest 1M NXT into development of technology that protects in such cases...  

Are you listening 50M NXT hoarders?

What are you doing 50M-Nxt-hoarders ?? We need money for projects.

It is stupid to hold such big amount. The value of Nxt will not increase if you don't help.

For fucks sake I don't want them to spend in any way they don't want but at least DO SOMETHING WITH THEM, WHATEVER!!!

Start your business, buy staff, donate, dump, help the community...

WTF???

They are so pathetic they split their funds!

+1

[lophie]

Shit, that is bad!  
Solutions? Maybe a DAC???
Awaken man's switch??  

Dunno. Time to invest 1M NXT into development of technology that protects in such cases...  

Are you listening 50M NXT hoarders?

What are you doing 50M-Nxt-hoarders ?? We need money for projects.

It is stupid to hold such big amount. The value of Nxt will not increase if you don't help.

For fucks sake I don't want them to spend in any way they don't want but at least DO SOMETHING WITH THEM, WHATEVER!!!

Start your business, buy staff, donate, dump, help the community...

WTF???

They are so pathetic they split their funds!

Now I feel better holding just two millions and planning to do this for yesrs to come.

[igmaca]

Guys before deciding we need to "go and change" the behaviour of forging we need to properly understand how it currently works so although it's nice that lots of people have creative ideas what would be more helpful is statistical analysis and modelling.

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on Today at 12:20:42 PM
Quote from: igmaca on Today at 12:11:23 PM

Confusing words. Do you propose something like this?

Quote from: bitcoinpaul on Today at 10:20:07 AM
Instead of leasing forge power, you commit with your account to share fees among others in the same "share fee group" if you forge a node. You still have to try to forge a block on your own, but you commit to share the incentive with others if you are successful. ... Could this be done with AT and would that make sense?

right (I'm sorry but I'm not a native speaker of English)

I do not know how you can implement technically but that's the idea

this means;

Extremely decentralized network (in the exemple 30.000 Nodes)
Small accounts motivated to participate in forging (In the exemple 100 Nxt account is forging every day)

You just have to solve for the fees to be sufficiently attractive.
An interesting idea is to pay for other things like leased computing power

I'm not a programmer
someone can model this idea?

[Eadeqa]

Shit, that is bad!  

Solutions? Maybe a DAC???

Awaken man's switch??  

Dunno. Time to invest 1M NXT into development of technology that protects in such cases...  

Are you listening 50M NXT hoarders?

Why they hoard so many coins? They can't sell all of this coins anyway. From the block chain, these account(2159498187382012684,4747512364439223888,9433259657262176905,14571285356259793594) have more than 45M NXT(some of them split they account). Please sell it, donate it, anyway. The price will be never going up too far if they hoard so many coins.

why should i?

You aren't early adapter. Shut up. You are a nobody

[ZeroTheGreat]

I've nothing against harcoding how many power pool can take. But it isn't solution also: 2 10% pools easily can be actually 1 20% pool, more important - can become. No leasing at all? Well, I'm thinking profit of decreased dispersion >> risk of malicious and powerful pool.

[martismartis]

I seem to have a bit of a hard time getting access to 0.8.2e on my raspi.

It seems to running ok, but I don't know how to access the browser interface.

Neither http nor https on any of the ports gets me access.


[2014-02-26 13:02:23.747] Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:7874
[2014-02-26 13:02:23.820] Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7876
[2014-02-26 13:02:23.861] Started user interface server at 127.0.0.1:7875
[2014-02-26 13:02:23.901] Nxt server 0.8.2e started successfully.


Maybe I have to modify the ncxt/conf/nxt-default.properties ? I have tried a few possible entries, but apart from the obvious ones, I have no idea:


nxt.allowedBotHosts=127.0.0.1; localhost; 192.168.178.25; 192.168.178.26; 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1;

nxt.allowedUserHosts=127.0.0.1; localhost; 192.168.178.25; 192.168.178.26; 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1;
 
As the start script is:
java -Xmx128M -Xmx450M -cp nxt.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt

Do I maybe have to give an extra reference to the nxt-default.properties?

In properties ### PEER NETWORKING" try:

nxt.peerServerHost=0.0.0.0

### API SERVER###

nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0
nxt.allowedBotHosts=*

### NRS USER INTERFACE ###

nxt.allowedUserHosts=*
nxt.uiServerHost=0.0.0.0

Not sure about PEER NETWORKING settings, but API and NRS should work.

[pinarello]

Greed could be the fatal flaw, if that 50M accounts persist to hoard we are all doomed, simply because that accounts don’t need a higher price to sell, they get rich anyway, no matter what the price is.

I wish we could shot them accounts down coz they only make us look bad and people who own them are from the greediest people ever seen, they hurt nxt and will destroy it.

How rich do you want to be 1M, 10M, 50M, it’s just disgusting when you think of it.

Honestly: I couldn’t care less if NXT was worth 0, just for the fun them accounts have also 0.

Who knows, maybe a good clone will outlive NXT and them 50M accounts if they don’t start spreading the wealth.

[ZeroTheGreat]

Therer's no possibility of rollback in PoW: malicious 51%, game over.

Well, I'm mostly wrong with this one. Hashrate could change destination. But with "cloud mining" I'm more and more close to right.

[abuelau]

Greed could be the fatal flaw, if that 50M accounts persist to hoard we are all doomed, simply because that accounts don’t need a higher price to sell, they get rich anyway, no matter what the price is.

I wish we could shot them accounts down coz they only make us look bad and people who own them are from the greediest people ever seen, they hurt nxt and will destroy it.

How rich do you want to be 1M, 10M, 50M, it’s just disgusting when you think of it.

Honestly: I couldn’t care less if NXT was worth 0, just for the fun them accounts have also 0.

Who knows, maybe a good clone will outlive NXT and them 50M accounts if they don’t start spreading the wealth.

Let's send some arbitrary messages to those accounts asking them to help out!

[pinarello]

Greed could be the fatal flaw, if that 50M accounts persist to hoard we are all doomed, simply because that accounts don’t need a higher price to sell, they get rich anyway, no matter what the price is.

I wish we could shot them accounts down coz they only make us look bad and people who own them are from the greediest people ever seen, they hurt nxt and will destroy it.

How rich do you want to be 1M, 10M, 50M, it’s just disgusting when you think of it.

Honestly: I couldn’t care less if NXT was worth 0, just for the fun them accounts have also 0.

Who knows, maybe a good clone will outlive NXT and them 50M accounts if they don’t start spreading the wealth.

Let's send some arbitrary messages to those accounts asking them to help out!

We already did. I think they dont even know how it works and they don't even give a damn how it works to.

[abuelau]

Greed could be the fatal flaw, if that 50M accounts persist to hoard we are all doomed, simply because that accounts don’t need a higher price to sell, they get rich anyway, no matter what the price is.

I wish we could shot them accounts down coz they only make us look bad and people who own them are from the greediest people ever seen, they hurt nxt and will destroy it.

How rich do you want to be 1M, 10M, 50M, it’s just disgusting when you think of it.

Honestly: I couldn’t care less if NXT was worth 0, just for the fun them accounts have also 0.

Who knows, maybe a good clone will outlive NXT and them 50M accounts if they don’t start spreading the wealth.

Let's send some arbitrary messages to those accounts asking them to help out!

We already did. I think they dont even know how it works and they don't even give a damn how it works to.

Do we have a list of the whales that help? Klee, msim, pouncer... who else?

[BitcoinForumator]

They (the big stakeholders) need to be aware of the fact that their inaction has consequences. If they count only on the other big players that do the work (for instance klee, plus others, there have been quite a few), it's a risky business. Everything donated and purchased to further the cause of NXT is helpful in the long run.

No one can say the exact numbers of how much value some action brings, but it's very possible that 10M out of 50M spent for marketing would make the 40M left worth a lot more than by doing nothing and having the whole 50M worth peanuts.

Surely this is in their thinking? Sorry to get riled up, but I don't know WTH you're doing if you're not thinking like this - you're the ones that should care the most and not piggyback on others.

[allwelder]

how to command start.bat on MAC with 0.8.2e,the same with Windows?
Thanks.

[pinarello]

Greed could be the fatal flaw, if that 50M accounts persist to hoard we are all doomed, simply because that accounts don’t need a higher price to sell, they get rich anyway, no matter what the price is.

I wish we could shot them accounts down coz they only make us look bad and people who own them are from the greediest people ever seen, they hurt nxt and will destroy it.

How rich do you want to be 1M, 10M, 50M, it’s just disgusting when you think of it.

Honestly: I couldn’t care less if NXT was worth 0, just for the fun them accounts have also 0.

Who knows, maybe a good clone will outlive NXT and them 50M accounts if they don’t start spreading the wealth.

Let's send some arbitrary messages to those accounts asking them to help out!

We already did. I think they dont even know how it works and they don't even give a damn how it works to.

Do we have a list of the whales that help? Klee, msim, pouncer... who else?

bybitcoin, bybitcoincanada, neer g, ....

[Eadeqa]

Greed could be the fatal flaw, if that 50M accounts persist to hoard we are all doomed, simply because that accounts don’t need a higher price to sell, they get rich anyway, no matter what the price is.

I really don't see it as a problem. Even if 500 million NXT don't move, the other 500 million would still be in circulation. That's more than enough. Bitcoin only has 12 million so far  and how many are in circulation? Very low number.

Hoarders can't "kill" nxt. If anything, hoarding pump prices up as less coins are in circulation.

[CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime]

** Cryptsy Update **

I just heard back from Paul (met him at the Miami Bitcoin Conference), they are looking to implement Nxt in the next few weeks.

[klee]

Opportunity

Can someone develop an Nxt equivalent of Proof of Existence so that NMAC (and other Virtual Corporations) can register itself like this company did on the Bitcoin blockchain? This well written prospectus can also be registered and published using the same method, making it official and "legal”. It gives a greater sense of legitimacy and serves as a show case of how the Nxt ecosystem can provide similar or better safeguards for investors normally enforced through government or centralized means.

ANNOUNCEMENT

https://i.imgur.com/OPXxu1r.png

Best regards,
Landomata
Secretary
Nxt Mobile Applications Company

PUMP!

[bitcoinpaul]

buybuybuy

[klee]

** Cryptsy Update **

I just heard back from Paul (met him at the Miami Bitcoin Conference), they are looking to implement Nxt in the next few weeks.

I talked with Big Vern @Skype and I introduced CfB to him - he said he will talk to Paul about it (to get help from CfB if needed).