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March 25, 2014, 07:58:26 AM
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Doing my head in with the news on this, feel sorry for the country been forced into the 'Russian Regime' - Its not really had much limelight with the missing plane and all.
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March 25, 2014, 08:12:39 AM
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f69_1393342055
rumor : Alexánder Muzychko (from the video)  was found dead
I was just viewing a parody on that one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmF_YRXQz88

Well, certainly good news if true. He was a bloodthirsty criminal, no matter on which side, he deserved it.


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March 25, 2014, 08:14:39 AM
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He was a bloodthirsty criminal, no matter on which side, he deserved it.
How could you say these things?  Shocked He was a part of truly democratic and independent opposition, you should never forget about that! Smiley
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March 25, 2014, 08:43:54 AM
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He was a bloodthirsty criminal, no matter on which side, he deserved it.
How could you say these things?  Shocked He was a part of truly democratic and independent opposition, you should never forget about that! Smiley


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March 25, 2014, 08:57:34 AM
Last edit: March 25, 2014, 09:18:54 AM by Nemo1024
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Funny that the entire situation is with Ukrainian president stealing $7billion of foreign aid from Ukrainian government, and trying to impose dictatorial rule, for which he was deposed, and Russia decided to stick its nose into the situation, caused a ton of issues, and is now complaining about being victimized  Roll Eyes

 Grin Agree with just a small correction. Russia consistently refrains from sticking its nose into the situation, save for two episodes: 1. saving Yanukovich from having his severed head put into a freezer and displayed to the public (as is the latest fashion), 2. and allowing Crimea to reunite with the mainland. All other nose-sticking was done by non-Russian-seaking interventionists.



While G7 still gleefully tries to find how to cripple Russia (http://www.banki.ru/news/lenta/?id=6371676), Russia responded to Kiev's request and Lavrov had a meeting with Ukraine's acting Minister of Foreign Affairs to discuss future relations of the two countries and the state of Ukraine's constitution.

http://www.bfm.ru/news/251940?doctype=news

And by the way, general consensus in the Russian population is that sanctions (especially in the banking and foods sector) would be good for Russia, forcing the government to finally build up domestic production and generally become more centred on domestic needs.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 25, 2014, 09:32:19 AM
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And by the way, general consensus in the Russian population is that sanctions (especially in the banking and foods sector) would be good for Russia, forcing the government to finally build up domestic production and generally become more centred on domestic needs.
And unfortunately, this is the reason why no real sanctions will be applied. I hope that some real sanctions will be applied but I don't believe what this will really happen, because the west has no balls.Roll Eyes
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March 25, 2014, 10:19:37 AM
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G7 countries snub Putin and refuse to attend planned G8 summit in Russia

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/24/g7-countries-snub-putin-refuse-attend-g8-summit-russia

"Amid fears of further Russian military moves in Ukraine, G7 meets in The Hague without Russia for the first time since 1998."
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March 25, 2014, 10:23:39 AM
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http://rt.com/news/sashko-bily-dead-reports-013/

I like the comments...
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March 25, 2014, 10:35:26 AM
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G7 countries snub Putin and refuse to attend planned G8 summit in Russia

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/24/g7-countries-snub-putin-refuse-attend-g8-summit-russia

"Amid fears of further Russian military moves in Ukraine, G7 meets in The Hague without Russia for the first time since 1998."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18016106

RF never thought anything serious about G8, they were always focused on G20. Roll Eyes

http://rt.com/news/lavrov-g8-crimea-kerry-933/

G20 format seems much more interesting.
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March 25, 2014, 12:27:55 PM
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...And Right Sector announced vendetta and intends to revenge acting interior minister of Ukraine for the death of their thug.

If that was a revolution in Ukraine, it sure started eating its bastard children.

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 25, 2014, 12:37:56 PM
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...And Right Sector announced vendetta and intends to revenge acting interior minister of Ukraine for the death of their thug.

If that was a revolution in Ukraine, it sure started eating its bastard children.

All the so called revolutions are the same, starting with the first french revolution. Its all bastards that gives the illusion of a democracy.
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March 25, 2014, 12:41:27 PM
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It seems that nazis are planning to start a mutual destruction. So, they'll forgot about the Crimea soon.
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March 25, 2014, 01:49:01 PM
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The office of "National guard" of Ukraine is searched on the orders of the acting Minister of Internal affairs:

http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1073541?utm_medium=rss20
http://news.rambler.ru/24105226/

In the meantime a parliamentarian from the Russian communist party asked Investigations Committee to check Timoshenko's statements about the necessaty to use nuclear weapons against ethnic Russians living in Ukraine for extremism.
http://news.rambler.ru/24266916/

Oh, and apropos of nothing, Ukraines reserve of bensin will last for approximately another month.

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The petition for Alaska's joining Russia, that was published on the pages of White House has gathered about 22000 votes. It needs to have 100000 votes until the 20th of April before it can receive an official reaction from the US government.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN

EDIT: almost 23000 votes already and counting, and it's only been going for a few days.
EDIT 2: 24000 a couple of hours later...
 Grin Grin Grin

It seems that nazis are planning to start a mutual destruction. So, they'll forgot about the Crimea soon.

Your estimate is correct
Like spiders in a can:
http://rt.com/news/yarosh-nationalist-resign-killing-157/

First Yarosh and his cohorts shot at, disbanded and humiliated Berkut (golden eagle) and now he's attacking another bird, demanding arrest of the commander of Sokol (falcon).

“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.”
“We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.”
“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 25, 2014, 06:00:10 PM
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...And Right Sector announced vendetta and intends to revenge acting interior minister of Ukraine for the death of their thug.

If that was a revolution in Ukraine, it sure started eating its bastard children.

All the so called revolutions are the same, starting with the first french revolution. Its all bastards that gives the illusion of a democracy.

^ this

The problem with revolutions is the people revolting never actually change themselves. They get angry and overthrow the authority, and then just implement new leadership that is just as corrupt and incompetent as what came before.

It's the same with the top-down approaches. Foreign imperial powers paint themselves as liberators, and then put into power castrated puppets.

The only true way to change the people at the top, is to change the people at the bottom.
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March 25, 2014, 06:03:27 PM
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so if they gonna be war with russia, they dont want to fight = Nato worth nothing  Huh

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The only true way to change the people at the top, is to change the people at the bottom.
Yep, but even if all the people are idealists, an ideology could be flawed. Ideological flaw will maintain a slow disruption of the political system. A conception of liberal democracy simply doesn't work as it proposed, because it leads to corporate monopoly and corruption. This way means that ordinary people have no right to participate in any decisions, only cheap illusion is available (Obama, McCain, Bush ==> same shit, nothing more than capital puppets). And it won't work in any other way...

Possible solution is to use an adaptation of democratic centralism conception for a mixed (both public and private owned) economy. Such system would be much more sustainable, if comparison will be performed in the identical conditions.

P.S. Something like this approach already tried in the RSFSR (New Economic Policy by Lenin) after the end of WW and Civil War. This policy allowed to archieve certain goals, a totally ruined economy very quickly recovered to pre-WW levels. China and Vietnam are trying to develop the similar systems now.
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March 25, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
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Speaking at a brief news conference in the Hague, President Obama said he's more worried about a loose nuke being detonated in Manhattan than he is about Russia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5DV228cj80

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-im-concerned-about-loose-nuke-being-detonated-manhattan_786009.html

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Grin Grin Grin
The petition for Alaska's joining Russia, that was published on the pages of White House has gathered about 22000 votes. It needs to have 100000 votes until the 20th of April before it can receive an official reaction from the US government.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN

EDIT: almost 23000 votes already and counting, and it's only been going for a few days.
EDIT 2: 24000 a couple of hours later...
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rofl thats way too funny. Cheesy
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The petition for Alaska's joining Russia, that was published on the pages of White House has gathered about 22000 votes. It needs to have 100000 votes until the 20th of April before it can receive an official reaction from the US government.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/alaska-back-russia/SFG1ppfN

EDIT: almost 23000 votes already and counting, and it's only been going for a few days.
EDIT 2: 24000 a couple of hours later...
 Grin Grin Grin

25K+ now. Looks like the Alaskans are pretty p****d off with Obama.
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