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May 23, 2014, 04:03:31 PM
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Russian journalists from LifeNews are still missing in Ukraine. The lawyer got a response from detention centres that the journalists are not held in any of them. SBU remains silent.
http://ria.ru/world/20140523/1009052050.html



Russia prepares classified document with retaliatory measures to Western sanctions

Russia has prepared a classified document with retaliatory measures to Western sanctions against Moscow over Ukraine, a senior Kremlin economic aide said Friday. There are tactics developed in response to these sanctions, Andrey Belousov told Rossiya 24 TV during the St. Petersburg Economic Forum. Certain activities will concern different levels – it depends on whether the sanctions are imposed against individuals or sectors, if they are systemic or not, he said. If any new sanctions are imposed against Russia, “we know exactly how to react,” the official said.
http://rt.com/news/line/2014-05-23/#62348

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May 23, 2014, 04:25:08 PM
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Russian general says will take around 20 days to completely pull troops back from the Ukrainian border, as per Interfax. Defense Ministry had said earlier that the pull back would be completed by June 1.

Meanwhile, cracks are appearing in the EU camp.

Walesa Says Ukraine's Maidan Gave Russia Pretext To Intervene

http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-walesa-critical-euromaidan/25395933.html
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May 23, 2014, 07:04:15 PM
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American Ticonderoga-class rocket cruiser Vella Gulf  has entered Black Sea carrying Aegis anti-rocket system:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1211422?utm_medium=rss20
Washington said that the ships entry into Black Sea is connected with the (p)residential elections in Ukraine.



Russian journalists being banned entry to Ukraine to cover presidential election
http://rt.com/news/161024-rt-denied-entry-ukraine/

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RT Spanish cameraman Aleksandr Serichenko and his assistant, Andrey Peleshok, were refused entry at Odessa Airport, southern Ukraine. The journalists have accreditation from Ukraine’s Central Election Commission.

“Without explaining the reason for refusal, the members of [Ukrainian] border service forced the RT crew to buy return tickets at their own expense," said the statement from RT’s press service.

This is not the first time RT journalists have been denied entry to Ukraine. On May 20, journalists from RT Arabic were also refused entry by Ukrainian border police after arriving in Kiev to cover the election. Like the Spanish news crew, journalists from RT Arabic were also accredited by the Ukrainian Central Election Commission.

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Journalists from two more Russian TV channels were denied entry to Ukraine on Wednesday. Ren-TV crew and two crews of the All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company (VGTRK), were banned from entering the country in Kiev’s Borisopol airport.

Ukraine bans entry to RT crew sent to cover presidential election
http://rt.com/news/160264-rt-banned-entry-ukraine/



Also, has anyone paid close attention to Putin's formulations today?
1. Russia will not be sending observers to the elections.
2. Russia works with whatever sits in Kiev now, and will work with whatever will sit in Kiev after the elections.
3. All attacks on civilian population in the South-East (the Civil War) must be stopped after the election.

What Putin basically said with those three statements, is that Russia does not care who gets installed in Kiev as long as the Civil War stops.

Now, I wonder what would be the "or else..." clause.

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May 24, 2014, 04:22:32 AM
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lol.. this is what revolution is all about. Right Sector extremists storming courts and police stations.

District Court of Kiev seized by pro-Maidan

http://russian.rt.com/article/33298
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May 24, 2014, 05:48:44 AM
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A range of Russian news journalists from different outlets, including RT’s Spanish and Arabic news crews, accredited to cover the upcoming presidential election in Ukraine on May 25, were denied to entry to the country without explanation.

http://rt.com/news/161024-rt-denied-entry-ukraine/
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May 24, 2014, 07:10:43 AM
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Mothers and wives of newly enlisted Ukrainian soldiers protest their deployment without better training:



Meanwhile, the pro-Kiev mercenaries are getting hammered in Eastern Ukraine.

Ukraine Faces Struggle to Gain Control of Militias, Including Those on Its Side

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/24/world/europe/ukraine-faces-struggle-to-gain-control-of-militias-including-those-on-its-side.html?_r=1
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May 24, 2014, 09:55:57 AM
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From midnight, all political rallying and activities in Ukraine must stop, prior to the (p)residential elections tomorrow.
http://www.bfm.ru/news/259010

I wonder if this applies to artillery shelling of civilians in the cities of the South-Eastern republics.

Meanwhile, the pro-Kiev mercenaries are getting hammered in Eastern Ukraine.

Ukraine Faces Struggle to Gain Control of Militias, Including Those on Its Side

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/24/world/europe/ukraine-faces-struggle-to-gain-control-of-militias-including-those-on-its-side.html?_r=1

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“We sacrificed Crimea without a shot fired,” said Andrey Gobzhelyan, 45, a military veteran and former machine tools maker. “This time we just have to fire.”

To interpret the quote: "Not a single civilian died and people did what they always wanted to do by reuniting with Russia. Now blood must be spilt and slauter must commence just for the hell of it, just to show that we care.

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“It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 24, 2014, 11:39:24 AM
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Yesterday the Neo-Nazis supporting Oleg Lyashko stormed the administration building in the city if Topaz in Donetsk oblast. No one there had weapons. One civilian killed.

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May 24, 2014, 11:33:11 PM
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Flag of Novorosiya federative state:



The bottom ribbon says "liberty and labor!".
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May 25, 2014, 01:36:14 AM
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Parliament speaker does not concede that Russian army could be used in Ukraine’s southeast

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/733034

This could complicate the prevailing situation....

Tymoshenko suggests holding referendum on Ukraine’s accession to NATO June 15

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/732974
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May 25, 2014, 02:59:24 AM
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 the only way to stop this situation  is to let people decide, whether they want to be Ukranians or they want to build another country, my grandpa is a Ukranian I know what I am talking about, people there are very different there, mentality, culture, everyting, it s just a historical accident that made them living in one country called "Ukraine" the east part is 99% russians also as the Crimea, so I don't see any problems in deviding into two parts!!!

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May 25, 2014, 04:41:59 AM
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I know what I am talking about, people there are very different there, mentality, culture, everyting, it s just a historical accident that made them living in one country called "Ukraine" the east part is 99% russians also as the Crimea, so I don't see any problems in deviding into two parts!!!

Yes. Eastern Ukrainians and Western Ukrainians are poles apart. Everything is different, religion, politics and even cuisine. During the Soviet times, the country was kept united through the Communist suppression. It is no longer possible now.
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May 25, 2014, 09:30:37 AM
Last edit: May 25, 2014, 10:53:02 AM by Nemo1024
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Flag of Novorosiya federative state:



The bottom ribbon says "liberty and labor!".

Nice flag!



Ukrainian (p)residential elections have started:

Ukraine presidential election LIVE UPDATES
http://rt.com/news/161360-ukraine-presidential-election-timeline/

http://www.interfax.ru/world/377848

Ballots "could not be delivered" to Novorossia:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/25/n_6179025.shtml

Only 6 election stations are open in the Donetsk area:
http://www.fontanka.ru/2014/05/25/014/



Italian MFA confirmed the death of Italian journalist near Slavjansk:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/25/italia/



Public network "Pillar" has registered 360 cases of violations during teh firsthours of voting:
http://ria.ru/world/20140525/1009249965.html



Journalists of LifeNews told about cruelties they were subject to during imprisonment:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/25/story/



There are no OSCE observers in Donetsk and Luhansk:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1214099?utm_medium=rss20

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May 25, 2014, 10:57:20 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYu5Pu-I47U

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May 25, 2014, 11:01:40 AM
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Press-conference of the Life-News journalists, release from the National Guard terrorist captivity.

See also:
http://ria.ru/society/20140525/1009245319.html

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May 25, 2014, 11:35:06 AM
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Heavy presence of Right Sector extremists outside most of the polling stations in Western and Central Ukraine. They are intimidating people who want to vote for opposition candidates.


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May 25, 2014, 03:02:35 PM
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/05/24/While-America-Tweets-The-World-Moves-Quickly-Stake-Its-Claims-in-the-Post-American-World


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May 25, 2014, 04:10:56 PM
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Andrei Mironov, the journalist killed by Right Sector yesterday was well known all over the world, for his unbiased coverage of the Chechen War. May his soul rest in peace.

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May 25, 2014, 04:45:43 PM
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Members of the election committee near Lugansk (Novoajdar) were executed by National guard ((p)residential candidate Yarosh's personal punitive battalion "Dnepr") for refusing to open the election point:
http://ria.ru/world/20140525/1009292969.html



In Makeevka, all ballots from Donetsk were burnt:
http://ria.ru/world/20140525/1009266828.html



Poroshenko (also known as Valtsman) just announced about his victory in the (s)elections, based on data from the exit polls:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/25/n_6180341.shtml

According to him 85% of people of Ukraine supported the "European choice of Ukraine".

85% of the Western and Central Ukraine, that is...

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May 26, 2014, 02:19:09 AM
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CyberBerkut claims responsibility for crippling Ukraine’s electronic election system ahead of presidential vote:

http://rt.com/news/161332-ukraine-president-election-virus/

Elections in Ukraine will make things worse, not better - expert

http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_05_25/Elections-in-Ukraine-will-make-things-worse-not-better-expert-0152/
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