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March 08, 2015, 08:32:52 AM
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is it right that in order the mine via the wallet GUI, the wallet must be unlocked? this represents a security risk doesnt it?

No, it is unlocked just for minting. If you try transferring money you will be asked to provide password.
Regarding security risk - it is important to have good password. But also to make sure you remember it or have stored somewhere else in case you forget.
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March 08, 2015, 08:34:27 AM
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may I ask, what pools are available to mine this coin and or how is it mined?

No pools. Mining CPU only for first 3 weeks. You can mine using client or check this thread for other people's instructions how to use minerd.
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March 08, 2015, 08:35:15 AM
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How many total coins in the wild. Is this coin Pos now. If so what is the POS rate. Do they still have mining or has that stopped?

2,4 bln. This includes premine which will be burnt in coming days.
PoS + PoW for first 3 weeks
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March 08, 2015, 08:40:55 AM
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Any one can help me please.
I send my nobles coin to poloniex.
Just at this time they change wallet to upgrade coin mode.

Status: 3211 confirmaciones
Date: 05/03/2015 19:18
To: Poloniex 9WxW4Rsrp3h2YvXo7x6azCWCsVNTXcgWFX
Debit: -4956387.60059992 NOBLE
Net amount: -4956387.60059992 NOBLE
Transaction ID: cea6f3d34eb3d8c17ef45d729b7999e7e662c9612902006fdf46f131452602c5

Poloniex says I HAVENT COINS

Where are?


You need to check block explorer to see what happened.

1. PoS block explorer
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/address.dws?9WxW4Rsrp3h2YvXo7x6azCWCsVNTXcgWFX.htm

There are two transactions at this address. Incoming and outgoing. Now it is empty

2. PoW block explorer - important to check address balance before time of switch
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/noblold/address.dws?9WxW4Rsrp3h2YvXo7x6azCWCsVNTXcgWFX.htm

Balance before time of switch (block #534500): 24,180,000.0 NOBLOLD

There is one incoming transaction after switch but it does not matter since switch happened already. Person/company who sent you 5 mil in this transaction controls private key associated with it.


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I also transferred some coins to Poloinex and see them on the old chain, are they lost now? Also unable to transfer mined balance from my old wallet to the POS wallet. Tried all three methods and not one worked for getting my balance transferred over. Can't import addresses manually from the old wallet because they just show as "mined" with no address? Are all these coins gone forever now? script method only gets to "757" transactions and hangs without showing addresses think it also stems from my balance being mined and not showing an address. Is there any way to get my coins transferred over or what?
Also wallets were never encrypted

Could you PM me with output generated by script?


Edit: This is resolved now. superawesomeusername was mining on old blockchain since coinwarz lists Noblecoin POW as most profitable coin now. I have contacted them to remove us from list of POW coins.


Please do not mine on old/POW blockchain. Anything you mine is worthless!

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March 08, 2015, 11:07:10 AM
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Started wallet after switch. Why am I on the old blockchain? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/noblold/address.dws?9kbG2Vwpf9Dq4RoX7aFcdbg45QcA2BVwTj.htm
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March 08, 2015, 11:09:11 AM
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Any one can help me please.
I send my nobles coin to poloniex.
Just at this time they change wallet to upgrade coin mode.

Status: 3211 confirmaciones
Date: 05/03/2015 19:18
To: Poloniex 9WxW4Rsrp3h2YvXo7x6azCWCsVNTXcgWFX
Debit: -4956387.60059992 NOBLE
Net amount: -4956387.60059992 NOBLE
Transaction ID: cea6f3d34eb3d8c17ef45d729b7999e7e662c9612902006fdf46f131452602c5

Poloniex says I HAVENT COINS

Where are?


You need to check block explorer to see what happened.

1. PoS block explorer
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/address.dws?9WxW4Rsrp3h2YvXo7x6azCWCsVNTXcgWFX.htm

There are two transactions at this address. Incoming and outgoing. Now it is empty

2. PoW block explorer - important to check address balance before time of switch
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/noblold/address.dws?9WxW4Rsrp3h2YvXo7x6azCWCsVNTXcgWFX.htm

Balance before time of switch (block #534500): 24,180,000.0 NOBLOLD

There is one incoming transaction after switch but it does not matter since switch happened already. Person/company who sent you 5 mil in this transaction controls private key associated with it.


I've noticed something similar.



The pending deposit was the last payment I received from the pool I was mining NOBL. The switch happened as this deposit had around 90 of 120 confirmations (was stated in the overview). A few hours later it changed to the view like you can see on the screenshot. What do I need to do in order to get those pending coins?

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March 08, 2015, 12:54:12 PM
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Hello,

I've been reading this: " https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Importing-private-keys-from-old-wallet.dat-using---salvagewallet-option " over and over again and I just don't understand the part 5. ... So to begin with, I had a PoW wallet ENCRYPTED on my PC#1 so I downloaded a new PoW wallet without encryption to my PC#2 and sent all my Nobles from my PC#1 to my new wallet on my PC#2 which is not encrypted and everything went fine. Then I back-upped my wallet.dat from the PC#2 PoW wallet and copied that wallet.dat to my PoS wallet roaming folder.

But what I need to do next? Where do I put that "-salvagewallet" command? I tried to start my PoS wallet just by clicking the PoS noblecoin-qt and the program just crashed like I thought and then I added the -salvagewallet command after the noblecoin-qt.exe like this "noblecoin-qt -salvagewallet" and started it but it gave me an error report and crashed.

So where do I put that -salvagewallet command or is there somewhere some salvagewallet.exe which I need to run? Thanks.

The important question is have you sent the money before the switch? IF afterwards it does not matter and money is still in encrypted wallet. Documentation was written before the switch and presented option of transferring money to unencrypted wallet. But now this option does not exist anymore. I have updated docs to present current options.

So in this situation, our coins are lost?  My old wallet was encrypted, i sent the coins to unencrypted wallet, and then used the -salvage function..things worked fine, except my coin balance is 0 instead of what it should be.  So I think what you just said indicates that for us with previously encrypted wallets, who haven't moved the coins BEFORE now have in effect lost them.  Correct?   Thank you in advance for this clarification.


Coins are still controlled by encrypted wallet. Because we did swap by ourselves there is no time limit. So do not worry. Just make sure to keep backup of encrypted wallet somewhere.

Please continue with manual method https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keys

Okay, I sent my coins back from my new unencrypted PoW wallet to the original encrypted PoW wallet (which contained all my coins BEFORE the switch) and tried to dumpprivkey [address] just like in the manual. Now I get error message: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address "my_address" is not known"}

Just what the feck is going on, how can this be so hard. What should I do next?

Yes, I think the instructions on the github are valid IF and ONLY IF the original POW wallet was NOT encrypted.  Once we followed the instructions to send the POW coins to a new unencrypted wallet, I think the coins got hung in limbo and we are screwed.


Really hope that you are wrong...

Fortunately this is incorrect. Money is still controlled by private key which is in the encrypted wallet. So whatever you do just make sure to keep its backup somewhere.

Longer explanation:

1. Switch (migration of coins from old to new blockchain) happened at block #534500 at old blockchain
2. All addresses and all balances at this exact moment were copied over new blockchain
3. After this moment any changes (transactions, mining etc) on old blockchain does not matter.
4. In your specific case transferring coins after the switch just makes this all more confusing. What is important is private key from your PoW wallet which controls an address where coins were stored at the time of switch

Things to do:

1. I have added 'Slightly modified manual procedure' to docs. Please follow it https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keys
2. Could you paste here or PM me with original address where your coins were stored?

I tried the modified manual procedure and it gave me all the addresses where I've received coins in the past (exchanges and mining pools). But all of them indicated 0.0000 received, except my own wallet address which showed all the transactions combined together (since I sent my whole balance to new wallet and then sent it back after the switch). And when I tried to dumpprivkey all the addresses, every address gave me the same error report. My original POW wallet with all the coins is 9ePBC3gkAEWqcHUyLidDJtsdt98targJEw

So at this point I'm 100% sure what is going on. I understand what I should have done and I understand what I did wrong.

edit. And I understand that the POW private key from the original POW wallet which contained all my coins before the switch is the most important thing now, which might be unable to reveal after all this mess.

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March 08, 2015, 02:56:47 PM
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Started wallet after switch. Why am I on the old blockchain? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/noblold/address.dws?9kbG2Vwpf9Dq4RoX7aFcdbg45QcA2BVwTj.htm

Have you downloaded new wallet? http://noble.ilikebtc.com/NobleCoin-Qt-v2.0.0.zip
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March 08, 2015, 02:59:13 PM
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Hello,

I've been reading this: " https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Importing-private-keys-from-old-wallet.dat-using---salvagewallet-option " over and over again and I just don't understand the part 5. ... So to begin with, I had a PoW wallet ENCRYPTED on my PC#1 so I downloaded a new PoW wallet without encryption to my PC#2 and sent all my Nobles from my PC#1 to my new wallet on my PC#2 which is not encrypted and everything went fine. Then I back-upped my wallet.dat from the PC#2 PoW wallet and copied that wallet.dat to my PoS wallet roaming folder.

But what I need to do next? Where do I put that "-salvagewallet" command? I tried to start my PoS wallet just by clicking the PoS noblecoin-qt and the program just crashed like I thought and then I added the -salvagewallet command after the noblecoin-qt.exe like this "noblecoin-qt -salvagewallet" and started it but it gave me an error report and crashed.

So where do I put that -salvagewallet command or is there somewhere some salvagewallet.exe which I need to run? Thanks.

The important question is have you sent the money before the switch? IF afterwards it does not matter and money is still in encrypted wallet. Documentation was written before the switch and presented option of transferring money to unencrypted wallet. But now this option does not exist anymore. I have updated docs to present current options.

So in this situation, our coins are lost?  My old wallet was encrypted, i sent the coins to unencrypted wallet, and then used the -salvage function..things worked fine, except my coin balance is 0 instead of what it should be.  So I think what you just said indicates that for us with previously encrypted wallets, who haven't moved the coins BEFORE now have in effect lost them.  Correct?   Thank you in advance for this clarification.


Coins are still controlled by encrypted wallet. Because we did swap by ourselves there is no time limit. So do not worry. Just make sure to keep backup of encrypted wallet somewhere.

Please continue with manual method https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keys

Okay, I sent my coins back from my new unencrypted PoW wallet to the original encrypted PoW wallet (which contained all my coins BEFORE the switch) and tried to dumpprivkey [address] just like in the manual. Now I get error message: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address "my_address" is not known"}

Just what the feck is going on, how can this be so hard. What should I do next?

Yes, I think the instructions on the github are valid IF and ONLY IF the original POW wallet was NOT encrypted.  Once we followed the instructions to send the POW coins to a new unencrypted wallet, I think the coins got hung in limbo and we are screwed.


Really hope that you are wrong...

Fortunately this is incorrect. Money is still controlled by private key which is in the encrypted wallet. So whatever you do just make sure to keep its backup somewhere.

Longer explanation:

1. Switch (migration of coins from old to new blockchain) happened at block #534500 at old blockchain
2. All addresses and all balances at this exact moment were copied over new blockchain
3. After this moment any changes (transactions, mining etc) on old blockchain does not matter.
4. In your specific case transferring coins after the switch just makes this all more confusing. What is important is private key from your PoW wallet which controls an address where coins were stored at the time of switch

Things to do:

1. I have added 'Slightly modified manual procedure' to docs. Please follow it https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keys
2. Could you paste here or PM me with original address where your coins were stored?

I tried the modified manual procedure and it gave me all the addresses where I've received coins in the past (exchanges and mining pools). But all of them indicated 0.0000 received, except my own wallet address which showed all the transactions combined together (since I sent my whole balance to new wallet and then sent it back after the switch). And when I tried to dumpprivkey all the addresses, every address gave me the same error report. My original POW wallet with all the coins is 9ePBC3gkAEWqcHUyLidDJtsdt98targJEw

So at this point I'm 100% sure what is going on. I understand what I should have done and I understand what I did wrong.

edit. And I understand that the POW private key from the original POW wallet which contained all my coins before the switch is the most important thing now, which might be unable to reveal after all this mess.

Questions:

1. Have you unlocked your wallet before trying to dump priv key?
2. It is also possible your encrypted wallet get corrupted somehow in effect of efforts to get priv keys. Please copy (not move!) it from backup location and try again
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March 08, 2015, 03:02:34 PM
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Any one can help me please.
I send my nobles coin to poloniex.
Just at this time they change wallet to upgrade coin mode.

Status: 3211 confirmaciones
Date: 05/03/2015 19:18
To: Poloniex 9WxW4Rsrp3h2YvXo7x6azCWCsVNTXcgWFX
Debit: -4956387.60059992 NOBLE
Net amount: -4956387.60059992 NOBLE
Transaction ID: cea6f3d34eb3d8c17ef45d729b7999e7e662c9612902006fdf46f131452602c5

Poloniex says I HAVENT COINS

Where are?


You need to check block explorer to see what happened.

1. PoS block explorer
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/address.dws?9WxW4Rsrp3h2YvXo7x6azCWCsVNTXcgWFX.htm

There are two transactions at this address. Incoming and outgoing. Now it is empty

2. PoW block explorer - important to check address balance before time of switch
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/noblold/address.dws?9WxW4Rsrp3h2YvXo7x6azCWCsVNTXcgWFX.htm

Balance before time of switch (block #534500): 24,180,000.0 NOBLOLD

There is one incoming transaction after switch but it does not matter since switch happened already. Person/company who sent you 5 mil in this transaction controls private key associated with it.


I've noticed something similar.



The pending deposit was the last payment I received from the pool I was mining NOBL. The switch happened as this deposit had around 90 of 120 confirmations (was stated in the overview). A few hours later it changed to the view like you can see on the screenshot. What do I need to do in order to get those pending coins?

So you have not received those coins before the switch? Could you enter your address into old block explorer and check if/when it shows this last amount for your address?
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March 08, 2015, 03:58:50 PM
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Hello,

I've been reading this: " https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Importing-private-keys-from-old-wallet.dat-using---salvagewallet-option " over and over again and I just don't understand the part 5. ... So to begin with, I had a PoW wallet ENCRYPTED on my PC#1 so I downloaded a new PoW wallet without encryption to my PC#2 and sent all my Nobles from my PC#1 to my new wallet on my PC#2 which is not encrypted and everything went fine. Then I back-upped my wallet.dat from the PC#2 PoW wallet and copied that wallet.dat to my PoS wallet roaming folder.

But what I need to do next? Where do I put that "-salvagewallet" command? I tried to start my PoS wallet just by clicking the PoS noblecoin-qt and the program just crashed like I thought and then I added the -salvagewallet command after the noblecoin-qt.exe like this "noblecoin-qt -salvagewallet" and started it but it gave me an error report and crashed.

So where do I put that -salvagewallet command or is there somewhere some salvagewallet.exe which I need to run? Thanks.

The important question is have you sent the money before the switch? IF afterwards it does not matter and money is still in encrypted wallet. Documentation was written before the switch and presented option of transferring money to unencrypted wallet. But now this option does not exist anymore. I have updated docs to present current options.

So in this situation, our coins are lost?  My old wallet was encrypted, i sent the coins to unencrypted wallet, and then used the -salvage function..things worked fine, except my coin balance is 0 instead of what it should be.  So I think what you just said indicates that for us with previously encrypted wallets, who haven't moved the coins BEFORE now have in effect lost them.  Correct?   Thank you in advance for this clarification.


Coins are still controlled by encrypted wallet. Because we did swap by ourselves there is no time limit. So do not worry. Just make sure to keep backup of encrypted wallet somewhere.

Please continue with manual method https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keys

Okay, I sent my coins back from my new unencrypted PoW wallet to the original encrypted PoW wallet (which contained all my coins BEFORE the switch) and tried to dumpprivkey [address] just like in the manual. Now I get error message: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address "my_address" is not known"}

Just what the feck is going on, how can this be so hard. What should I do next?

Yes, I think the instructions on the github are valid IF and ONLY IF the original POW wallet was NOT encrypted.  Once we followed the instructions to send the POW coins to a new unencrypted wallet, I think the coins got hung in limbo and we are screwed.


Really hope that you are wrong...

Fortunately this is incorrect. Money is still controlled by private key which is in the encrypted wallet. So whatever you do just make sure to keep its backup somewhere.

Longer explanation:

1. Switch (migration of coins from old to new blockchain) happened at block #534500 at old blockchain
2. All addresses and all balances at this exact moment were copied over new blockchain
3. After this moment any changes (transactions, mining etc) on old blockchain does not matter.
4. In your specific case transferring coins after the switch just makes this all more confusing. What is important is private key from your PoW wallet which controls an address where coins were stored at the time of switch

Things to do:

1. I have added 'Slightly modified manual procedure' to docs. Please follow it https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keys
2. Could you paste here or PM me with original address where your coins were stored?

I tried the modified manual procedure and it gave me all the addresses where I've received coins in the past (exchanges and mining pools). But all of them indicated 0.0000 received, except my own wallet address which showed all the transactions combined together (since I sent my whole balance to new wallet and then sent it back after the switch). And when I tried to dumpprivkey all the addresses, every address gave me the same error report. My original POW wallet with all the coins is 9ePBC3gkAEWqcHUyLidDJtsdt98targJEw

So at this point I'm 100% sure what is going on. I understand what I should have done and I understand what I did wrong.

edit. And I understand that the POW private key from the original POW wallet which contained all my coins before the switch is the most important thing now, which might be unable to reveal after all this mess.

Questions:

1. Have you unlocked your wallet before trying to dump priv key?
2. It is also possible your encrypted wallet get corrupted somehow in effect of efforts to get priv keys. Please copy (not move!) it from backup location and try again

Doesn't the un-encrypting require complete new wallet? I thought you can only change the password.

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March 08, 2015, 05:51:58 PM
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VNL and new NOBL wallets has issues and require it's devs job. We will activate them and serve all tickets of them once it will be fixed

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March 08, 2015, 06:50:08 PM
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Hello,

I've been reading this: " https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Importing-private-keys-from-old-wallet.dat-using---salvagewallet-option " over and over again and I just don't understand the part 5. ... So to begin with, I had a PoW wallet ENCRYPTED on my PC#1 so I downloaded a new PoW wallet without encryption to my PC#2 and sent all my Nobles from my PC#1 to my new wallet on my PC#2 which is not encrypted and everything went fine. Then I back-upped my wallet.dat from the PC#2 PoW wallet and copied that wallet.dat to my PoS wallet roaming folder.

But what I need to do next? Where do I put that "-salvagewallet" command? I tried to start my PoS wallet just by clicking the PoS noblecoin-qt and the program just crashed like I thought and then I added the -salvagewallet command after the noblecoin-qt.exe like this "noblecoin-qt -salvagewallet" and started it but it gave me an error report and crashed.

So where do I put that -salvagewallet command or is there somewhere some salvagewallet.exe which I need to run? Thanks.

The important question is have you sent the money before the switch? IF afterwards it does not matter and money is still in encrypted wallet. Documentation was written before the switch and presented option of transferring money to unencrypted wallet. But now this option does not exist anymore. I have updated docs to present current options.

So in this situation, our coins are lost?  My old wallet was encrypted, i sent the coins to unencrypted wallet, and then used the -salvage function..things worked fine, except my coin balance is 0 instead of what it should be.  So I think what you just said indicates that for us with previously encrypted wallets, who haven't moved the coins BEFORE now have in effect lost them.  Correct?   Thank you in advance for this clarification.


Coins are still controlled by encrypted wallet. Because we did swap by ourselves there is no time limit. So do not worry. Just make sure to keep backup of encrypted wallet somewhere.

Please continue with manual method https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keys

Okay, I sent my coins back from my new unencrypted PoW wallet to the original encrypted PoW wallet (which contained all my coins BEFORE the switch) and tried to dumpprivkey [address] just like in the manual. Now I get error message: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address "my_address" is not known"}

Just what the feck is going on, how can this be so hard. What should I do next?

Yes, I think the instructions on the github are valid IF and ONLY IF the original POW wallet was NOT encrypted.  Once we followed the instructions to send the POW coins to a new unencrypted wallet, I think the coins got hung in limbo and we are screwed.


Really hope that you are wrong...

Fortunately this is incorrect. Money is still controlled by private key which is in the encrypted wallet. So whatever you do just make sure to keep its backup somewhere.

Longer explanation:

1. Switch (migration of coins from old to new blockchain) happened at block #534500 at old blockchain
2. All addresses and all balances at this exact moment were copied over new blockchain
3. After this moment any changes (transactions, mining etc) on old blockchain does not matter.
4. In your specific case transferring coins after the switch just makes this all more confusing. What is important is private key from your PoW wallet which controls an address where coins were stored at the time of switch

Things to do:

1. I have added 'Slightly modified manual procedure' to docs. Please follow it https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keys
2. Could you paste here or PM me with original address where your coins were stored?

I tried the modified manual procedure and it gave me all the addresses where I've received coins in the past (exchanges and mining pools). But all of them indicated 0.0000 received, except my own wallet address which showed all the transactions combined together (since I sent my whole balance to new wallet and then sent it back after the switch). And when I tried to dumpprivkey all the addresses, every address gave me the same error report. My original POW wallet with all the coins is 9ePBC3gkAEWqcHUyLidDJtsdt98targJEw

So at this point I'm 100% sure what is going on. I understand what I should have done and I understand what I did wrong.

edit. And I understand that the POW private key from the original POW wallet which contained all my coins before the switch is the most important thing now, which might be unable to reveal after all this mess.

Questions:

1. Have you unlocked your wallet before trying to dump priv key?
2. It is also possible your encrypted wallet get corrupted somehow in effect of efforts to get priv keys. Please copy (not move!) it from backup location and try again

Doesn't the un-encrypting require complete new wallet? I thought you can only change the password.

Mind you, we are discussion 'unlocking' not 'unencrypting'. Please check three last methods from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_calls_list

You need to unlock your wallet using 'walletpassphrase' method and only then you will be able to dump private keys belonging to your addresses.

An example on my old wallet:

Code:
./noblecoind listreceivedbyaddress 1 true
[
    {
        "address" : "9Zi27cKsoKNFNc1QqTtQeNrLYjLSKH9Gto",
        "account" : "",
        "amount" : 0.00000000,
        "confirmations" : 0
    }
]

./noblecoind dumpprivkey 9Zi27cKsoKNFNc1QqTtQeNrLYjLSKH9Gto
error: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address 9Zi27cKsoKNFNc1QqTtQeNrLYjLSKH9Gto is not known"}

./noblecoind walletpassphrase 123 900

./noblecoind dumpprivkey 9Zi27cKsoKNFNc1QqTtQeNrLYjLSKH9Gto
P4wpXXbC4871qsd8VCDzN7cZ3L2pbVtnPLLdqBGXPijfzA6SgpX8
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March 08, 2015, 07:09:00 PM
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Hello,

I've been reading this: " https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Importing-private-keys-from-old-wallet.dat-using---salvagewallet-option " over and over again and I just don't understand the part 5. ... So to begin with, I had a PoW wallet ENCRYPTED on my PC#1 so I downloaded a new PoW wallet without encryption to my PC#2 and sent all my Nobles from my PC#1 to my new wallet on my PC#2 which is not encrypted and everything went fine. Then I back-upped my wallet.dat from the PC#2 PoW wallet and copied that wallet.dat to my PoS wallet roaming folder.

But what I need to do next? Where do I put that "-salvagewallet" command? I tried to start my PoS wallet just by clicking the PoS noblecoin-qt and the program just crashed like I thought and then I added the -salvagewallet command after the noblecoin-qt.exe like this "noblecoin-qt -salvagewallet" and started it but it gave me an error report and crashed.

So where do I put that -salvagewallet command or is there somewhere some salvagewallet.exe which I need to run? Thanks.

The important question is have you sent the money before the switch? IF afterwards it does not matter and money is still in encrypted wallet. Documentation was written before the switch and presented option of transferring money to unencrypted wallet. But now this option does not exist anymore. I have updated docs to present current options.

So in this situation, our coins are lost?  My old wallet was encrypted, i sent the coins to unencrypted wallet, and then used the -salvage function..things worked fine, except my coin balance is 0 instead of what it should be.  So I think what you just said indicates that for us with previously encrypted wallets, who haven't moved the coins BEFORE now have in effect lost them.  Correct?   Thank you in advance for this clarification.


Coins are still controlled by encrypted wallet. Because we did swap by ourselves there is no time limit. So do not worry. Just make sure to keep backup of encrypted wallet somewhere.

Please continue with manual method https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keys

Okay, I sent my coins back from my new unencrypted PoW wallet to the original encrypted PoW wallet (which contained all my coins BEFORE the switch) and tried to dumpprivkey [address] just like in the manual. Now I get error message: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address "my_address" is not known"}

Just what the feck is going on, how can this be so hard. What should I do next?

Yes, I think the instructions on the github are valid IF and ONLY IF the original POW wallet was NOT encrypted.  Once we followed the instructions to send the POW coins to a new unencrypted wallet, I think the coins got hung in limbo and we are screwed.


Really hope that you are wrong...

Fortunately this is incorrect. Money is still controlled by private key which is in the encrypted wallet. So whatever you do just make sure to keep its backup somewhere.

Longer explanation:

1. Switch (migration of coins from old to new blockchain) happened at block #534500 at old blockchain
2. All addresses and all balances at this exact moment were copied over new blockchain
3. After this moment any changes (transactions, mining etc) on old blockchain does not matter.
4. In your specific case transferring coins after the switch just makes this all more confusing. What is important is private key from your PoW wallet which controls an address where coins were stored at the time of switch

Things to do:

1. I have added 'Slightly modified manual procedure' to docs. Please follow it https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keys
2. Could you paste here or PM me with original address where your coins were stored?

I tried the modified manual procedure and it gave me all the addresses where I've received coins in the past (exchanges and mining pools). But all of them indicated 0.0000 received, except my own wallet address which showed all the transactions combined together (since I sent my whole balance to new wallet and then sent it back after the switch). And when I tried to dumpprivkey all the addresses, every address gave me the same error report. My original POW wallet with all the coins is 9ePBC3gkAEWqcHUyLidDJtsdt98targJEw

So at this point I'm 100% sure what is going on. I understand what I should have done and I understand what I did wrong.

edit. And I understand that the POW private key from the original POW wallet which contained all my coins before the switch is the most important thing now, which might be unable to reveal after all this mess.

Questions:

1. Have you unlocked your wallet before trying to dump priv key?
2. It is also possible your encrypted wallet get corrupted somehow in effect of efforts to get priv keys. Please copy (not move!) it from backup location and try again

Doesn't the un-encrypting require complete new wallet? I thought you can only change the password.

Mind you, we are discussion 'unlocking' not 'unencrypting'. Please check three last methods from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_calls_list

You need to unlock your wallet using 'walletpassphrase' method and only then you will be able to dump private keys belonging to your addresses.

An example on my old wallet:

Code:
./noblecoind listreceivedbyaddress 1 true
[
    {
        "address" : "9Zi27cKsoKNFNc1QqTtQeNrLYjLSKH9Gto",
        "account" : "",
        "amount" : 0.00000000,
        "confirmations" : 0
    }
]

./noblecoind dumpprivkey 9Zi27cKsoKNFNc1QqTtQeNrLYjLSKH9Gto
error: {"code":-4,"message":"Private key for address 9Zi27cKsoKNFNc1QqTtQeNrLYjLSKH9Gto is not known"}

./noblecoind walletpassphrase 123 900

./noblecoind dumpprivkey 9Zi27cKsoKNFNc1QqTtQeNrLYjLSKH9Gto
P4wpXXbC4871qsd8VCDzN7cZ3L2pbVtnPLLdqBGXPijfzA6SgpX8

Thank you! That was it! I opened my original POW wallet and typed in console: walletpassphrase (mypassword) 900
Then dumpprivkey (myaddress) and it gave me the goddamn private key finally Smiley

Then importprivkey to my new POS wallet and there it is, all my nobles safely on my POS wallet.

Gotta tell you that I would never believed that I can get my Nobles back, so thank you very much Smiley


edit. And I'm pretty sure everything is working because it says "Minting. Your weight is 227818. Network weight is 418959937. Expected time to earn reward is 1 day(s)."

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March 08, 2015, 07:47:08 PM
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Holy Cow - I am a nOOb in every sense of the word. I believe I am mining and I admit it is on a slow laptop but I wanted to get my feet wet on this.

Can anyone direct me to some nOOBish info in Noblecoin?

Few questions: If I am indeed mining, will I only receive any coin when I find a block? How do I know? Will my wallet automatically indicate that? Will I have to wait weeks for any chance to find one? Oh lordy, I'm in over my head

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March 08, 2015, 07:50:09 PM
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Holy Cow - I am a nOOb in every sense of the word. I believe I am mining and I admit it is on a slow laptop but I wanted to get my feet wet on this.

Can anyone direct me to some nOOBish info in Noblecoin?

Few questions: If I am indeed mining, will I only receive any coin when I find a block? How do I know? Will my wallet automatically indicate that? Will I have to wait weeks for any chance to find one? Oh lordy, I'm in over my head

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A popup will appear on the right bottom, above the windows clock, saying that you've found a block with reward 1000 NOBL.
If you are not sure if you're mining or not, type getmininginfo in the debug console. You should find something like hashespersec: number. That means you are mining with that number h/s.

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blocks" : 6482,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 0.09296127,
"proof-of-stake" : 10.53022181,
"search-interval" : 1
},
"netmhashps" : 0.87179098,
"netstakeweight" : 420457854.18243283,
"errors" : "",
"pooledtx" : 0,
"stakeweight" : {
"minimum" : 0,
"maximum" : 0,
"combined" : 0
},
"Expected PoS (seconds)" : 0,
"stakeinterest" : 0.08000000,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : 1,
"hashespersec" : 2912,
"networkhashps" : 871790,
"testnet" : false
}


Looks like I am indeed mining, I doubt I will have much success anytime soon but I am house sitting at my dad's, not really concerned about electricity  Wink

Thanks for the help
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March 08, 2015, 07:59:35 PM
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blocks" : 6482,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 0.09296127,
"proof-of-stake" : 10.53022181,
"search-interval" : 1
},
"netmhashps" : 0.87179098,
"netstakeweight" : 420457854.18243283,
"errors" : "",
"pooledtx" : 0,
"stakeweight" : {
"minimum" : 0,
"maximum" : 0,
"combined" : 0
},
"Expected PoS (seconds)" : 0,
"stakeinterest" : 0.08000000,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : 1,
"hashespersec" : 2912,
"networkhashps" : 871790,
"testnet" : false
}


Looks like I am indeed mining, I doubt I will have much success anytime soon but I am house sitting at my dad's, not really concerned about electricity  Wink

Thanks for the help

My hashrate is only twice as much as yours and I found 1-3 blocks per day on average. Not much but ok for that low hashrate. Like always: Buying a coin is cheaper than mining it.

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Last edit: March 08, 2015, 09:11:24 PM by ImissATARI
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blocks" : 6482,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 0.09296127,
"proof-of-stake" : 10.53022181,
"search-interval" : 1
},
"netmhashps" : 0.87179098,
"netstakeweight" : 420457854.18243283,
"errors" : "",
"pooledtx" : 0,
"stakeweight" : {
"minimum" : 0,
"maximum" : 0,
"combined" : 0
},
"Expected PoS (seconds)" : 0,
"stakeinterest" : 0.08000000,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : 1,
"hashespersec" : 2912,
"networkhashps" : 871790,
"testnet" : false
}


Looks like I am indeed mining, I doubt I will have much success anytime soon but I am house sitting at my dad's, not really concerned about electricity  Wink

Thanks for the help

My hashrate is only twice as much as yours and I found 1-3 blocks per day on average. Not much but ok for that low hashrate. Like always: Buying a coin is cheaper than mining it.

Not when pops is paying the electricity. He is in Cozumul..... he can afford it Wink
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