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March 05, 2015, 07:36:34 PM |
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Why is better to split coins into smaller wallets ?
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eagleflies
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March 05, 2015, 07:56:41 PM |
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I am in a similar situation - I have 100,000 NOBL from a while ago, and I just saw on Twitter yesterday that everything moved to POS (I've been out of the loop!). My existing POW wallet is encrypted, so I tried the method of sending the balance to a new (unencrypted) wallet address, using the old POW client. This seemed to work - here is the receiving address in the block explorer: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/nobl/address.dws?9Y8c7jZWyYgzKbnV94KmMDVErobyGphuKh.htmHowever, when I start up the new wallet - either in the old client, or in the new client using -salvagewallet after copying the unencrypted POW wallet to Appdata\Roaming\NoblecoinPOS - I don't see the 100K balance. Does anyone have any ideas for me? Thanks! Myeagleflies will hopefully clarify, but to me this would not work as what happened was there was a snapshot taken and all of the coins distributed onto the new bockchain as they were in the old one. So you transferred them after the copy back, the coins won't be there. Will it not work with the unlockwallet command? I can't remember what it was offhand. Thanks for the reply james! The OP states that there isn't a way to unencrypt a wallet once it's encrypted: If your wallet is encrypted things become more complex as there is no way to remove encryption AFAIK. You have two options:
create new un-encrypted PoW wallet and transfer your funds there. then you will be able to follow -salvagewallet method to move the keys into PoS wallet send money to an exchange - 2.1. method
At this point, it doesn't matter, since I sent my coins from the encrypted one, and I can't get them back unless I can see them in my new address (in my unencrypted wallet). What you explained about the timing of the snapshot makes sense, but I was just being hopeful based on eagleflies's comment: 2. It is too late to convert coins via exchange. But you can do it by yourself too without any time limit.
Is it true that there isn't a time limit? I also tried importing the receiving address private key into the POS wallet, but that didn't give me my balance either. Thanks again! Confirming - no time limit.Let me know if my understanding is correct: 1. you had encrypted wallet with balance of 100 000 in it 2. after switch you generated new receival address on PoW network (or PoS network?) and sent there money from old wallet 3. you can see this transaction on blockchain but you do not see it in your unencrypted wallet Is your original encrypted wallet empty at this point? I would suggest you to take a look at manual method. https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keysHowever since your encrypted wallet is empty now, is it? command used in this method 'listunspent' is not going to help since you spent money already. What you need to run is: listreceivedbyaddress 1 true
This will produce list of all addresses you used on this wallet. For each address you need to run Then you need to import those private keys into PoS wallet as described there https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keysWhatever you do: Backup old wallet. It stores keys to your money. No time limit. As far as your original wallet is backed up somewhere you can try and fail 100 times and still be able to suceed when you try later
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james6546
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March 05, 2015, 07:57:25 PM |
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Why is better to split coins into smaller wallets ?
Because as part of POS II you get rewarded less coins with a bigger group of coins than 2m. You don't need separate wallets, they just have to be sent to the wallet in separate transactions, so if you had 10m you would send 2m to the wallet 5 times. Hope this makes sense
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eagleflies
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March 05, 2015, 08:00:11 PM |
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Why is better to split coins into smaller wallets ?
Not wallets. Each staking happens per transaction. And after staking you have two new transactions instead of one old one. The more competing transactions there are across whole network the better for network security as there is more competition. Of course after some time (to be discovered) you can decide "I have too many transactions at this point" and merge them into one or several bigger transactions.
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catotune
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March 05, 2015, 09:16:03 PM |
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Thank you for being so helpful, I really appreciate it! Confirming - no time limit.
Let me know if my understanding is correct: 1. you had encrypted wallet with balance of 100 000 in it 2. after switch you generated new receival address on PoW network (or PoS network?) and sent there money from old wallet 3. you can see this transaction on blockchain but you do not see it in your unencrypted wallet
Yes, and for #2, it was on the PoW network. Is your original encrypted wallet empty at this point? I would suggest you to take a look at manual method. https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keysHowever since your encrypted wallet is empty now, is it? command used in this method 'listunspent' is not going to help since you spent money already. What you need to run is: listreceivedbyaddress 1 true
This will produce list of all addresses you used on this wallet. For each address you need to run Then you need to import those private keys into PoS wallet as described there https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keysWhatever you do: Backup old wallet. It stores keys to your money. No time limit. As far as your original wallet is backed up somewhere you can try and fail 100 times and still be able to suceed when you try later Yes, my encrypted wallet is empty now. To be clear, should I do: listreceivedbyaddress 1 true
On my unencrypted POW wallet (with the receiving address)? I will try this when I get home from work. I did try to import my private key for the receiving address (from my unencrypted POW wallet) into my new POS wallet, but it gave an error - I think because my new POS wallet already has my private key, since it was created from my unencrypted POW wallet using -salvagewallet. It still did not reflect the balance that the address should have, unfortunately. Thanks again!
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eagleflies
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March 05, 2015, 09:33:17 PM |
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Thank you for being so helpful, I really appreciate it! Confirming - no time limit.
Let me know if my understanding is correct: 1. you had encrypted wallet with balance of 100 000 in it 2. after switch you generated new receival address on PoW network (or PoS network?) and sent there money from old wallet 3. you can see this transaction on blockchain but you do not see it in your unencrypted wallet
Yes, and for #2, it was on the PoW network. Is your original encrypted wallet empty at this point? I would suggest you to take a look at manual method. https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keysHowever since your encrypted wallet is empty now, is it? command used in this method 'listunspent' is not going to help since you spent money already. What you need to run is: listreceivedbyaddress 1 true
This will produce list of all addresses you used on this wallet. For each address you need to run Then you need to import those private keys into PoS wallet as described there https://github.com/eagleflies/noblecoin/wiki/Manual-way-of-importing-private-keysWhatever you do: Backup old wallet. It stores keys to your money. No time limit. As far as your original wallet is backed up somewhere you can try and fail 100 times and still be able to suceed when you try later Yes, my encrypted wallet is empty now. To be clear, should I do: listreceivedbyaddress 1 true
On my unencrypted POW wallet (with the receiving address)? I will try this when I get home from work. I did try to import my private key for the receiving address (from my unencrypted POW wallet) into my new POS wallet, but it gave an error - I think because my new POS wallet already has my private key, since it was created from my unencrypted POW wallet using -salvagewallet. It still did not reflect the balance that the address should have, unfortunately. Thanks again! Please do exactly what you described.
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dac10
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March 05, 2015, 10:08:06 PM |
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I am left with the coins on behalf of Crypsty maintenance. However after I send them on to POS wallet, I put immediatly begin staking!?
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james6546
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March 05, 2015, 10:09:45 PM |
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I am left with the coins on behalf of Crypsty maintenance. However after I send them on to POS wallet, I put immediatly begin staking!?
No, staking usually happens after 7 hours in the wallet. I have lots of coins stuck in cryptsy too
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cryptonit
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March 06, 2015, 12:27:11 AM |
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good job eagleflies
i wonder why u did choose against merge mining with magi u could even use same reduce rewards when to much hashrate system as u use at magi and only tiny mining rewards at noble as aux hashcoin anyway (so the pow would create additional inflation is not correct)
this way strengh noble network with magi pools and create a m7m mining family
would all have been good promotion for magi which i see as a underrated coin with great active community
but just my opinion hybrid POW/POS in my opinion is superior to pure POS if done right
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thefix
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March 06, 2015, 01:12:34 AM |
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good job eagleflies
i wonder why u did choose against merge mining with magi u could even use same reduce rewards when to much hashrate system as u use at magi and only tiny mining rewards at noble as aux hashcoin anyway (so the pow would create additional inflation is not correct)
this way strengh noble network with magi pools and create a m7m mining family
would all have been good promotion for magi which i see as a underrated coin with great active community
but just my opinion hybrid POW/POS in my opinion is superior to pure POS if done right
I agree, Magi is a sleeper.
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Lovethecoins
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March 06, 2015, 01:37:46 AM |
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I am glad this was smooth... Everytime we get a run we run into fud... now this is complete it should be smooth sailing forward... What is the next project we have in mind? Has anyone contacted shapeshift.io and see if they would add noblecoin
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March 06, 2015, 02:09:12 AM |
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Hello, brand new to noble coin and I'm only lightly familiar with cryptomining in general. I've downloaded NobleCoin and I've attempted mining, but I haven't noticed any deposits so far.
A few questions:
1) I was wondering how best I can mine NOBLs? 2) Should I join a pool, and if so, what are some good pools that still work? I see a lot of dead links. 3) What is scantime? 4) How do I know when I've earned NOBLs thru mining? 5) Does anyone have any cheesecake here?
And if it helps any, my system is an i5-2500K @ 4.2 GHz with a GTX 650Ti BOOST 2GB graphics card.
Thank you all!
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Rumhurius
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Here we go again
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March 06, 2015, 03:43:33 AM |
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real smooth and well done so far. Pow Mining Rewards are just a bit low imo and you need to update the Opener with some Pools. Are there some working Pools now at all ? Solo Mining never was my cup of tea cause i always turn my rig off over night. Good job anyway.
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Wh1teKn1ght
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March 06, 2015, 04:32:00 AM |
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eagleflies, can you post a standalone m7m miner that works with NOBL? I can't get the mining to work other than through the GUI. Would like to run the miner externally with a m7m miner.
Thanks!
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Wesiematic
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March 06, 2015, 08:03:59 AM |
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Yes i was ready, but choosed the easy way. Luckily i did one transaction before the exchange wallets were in maintenance, so i'm minting and mining since last night. Really great job , you have no noble donation adress for a small tip ? I'm happy that you're happy Here's my address: 9acVmwMxq8nKfpvvfwtKu7Vp6xE5dhHx7o Thank you! That's nice , little tip should be there. Thank you !
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there is always a light at the end of the tunnel...
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james6546
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March 06, 2015, 08:29:18 AM |
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Hello, brand new to noble coin and I'm only lightly familiar with cryptomining in general. I've downloaded NobleCoin and I've attempted mining, but I haven't noticed any deposits so far.
A few questions:
1) I was wondering how best I can mine NOBLs? 2) Should I join a pool, and if so, what are some good pools that still work? I see a lot of dead links. 3) What is scantime? 4) How do I know when I've earned NOBLs thru mining? 5) Does anyone have any cheesecake here?
And if it helps any, my system is an i5-2500K @ 4.2 GHz with a GTX 650Ti BOOST 2GB graphics card.
Thank you all!
Well seeing as Noble has just moved to PoS you can't mine it on any pools. For the first 3ish weeks you will be able to PoW mine it using your CPU, the diff is still pretty low. To do this download the wallet from the initial post, sync it, go to the debug window and type "setgenerate true". If you then type "getmininginfo" it will give you your mining speed. There is no cheesecake here, but if you know the location of any it would be greatly appreciated
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james6546
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March 06, 2015, 09:54:43 AM |
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Sorry I didn't get around to paying out last night. Latest round of payouts have been done. Total paid out: 355000 Total entrants: 52 Remaining funds: 895062.83320647 NOBLToday is the last day, so get your free PoS flavoured NobleCoin http://promoplugs.com/Campaign.aspx?CID=147Addresses that have not worked, pm me if these are yours: X4NPbmfMUm7MC9ZKsSBTEMucXeCHaf 1E8GyrMRMPGLktvAEBL1FqmMeTcd877FX6 1FnsWXNadQWcYEt2LWELch8LCcntgUyGi6 SR9XDBAKWtYd8NddyBK4VaK2roa2VBsmmQ 9nZKZxHsJuh5nHM1AcmEhpSa7WEMNuBFj
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March 06, 2015, 09:59:12 AM |
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Getting pretty frustrated here. C'ant get solo mining to work, makes me feel like a n00b again my config %appdata%/noblecoinpos/noblecoinpos.conf with following content daemon=1 server=1 rpcport=55882 rpcallowip=192.168.*.* rpcuser= rpcpassword= I'm using Wolfs optimized cpu miner https://sourceforge.net/projects/coinmagi/files/m-miner/Wolf-m7m-cpuminer-V2/ content from startup.bat minerd-x64-generic.exe -u -p --url http://127.0.0.1:55882always getting rpc call failed.
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pikuchato
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March 06, 2015, 10:23:34 AM |
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Try this: daemon=1 server=1 rpcport=55882 rpcallowip=127.0.0.1 rpcuser=x rpcpassword=y minerd-x64-generic.exe -u x -p y --url http://127.0.0.1:55882
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eagleflies
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March 06, 2015, 11:53:38 AM |
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I am glad this was smooth... Everytime we get a run we run into fud... now this is complete it should be smooth sailing forward... What is the next project we have in mind? Has anyone contacted shapeshift.io and see if they would add noblecoin
The thing is we need more people to help: - Re-design our OP. ideally someone who has experience with graphic design, but if you do not have such experience feel free to volunteer and we will do it - Marketing specialist - someone to talk with other websites like shapeshift.io etc Myself I prefer to focus on technical side and to some extent with educating people about PoS etc.
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