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Where's the problem? I'm just asking why masternode blinding hasn't been implemented by your lying scam dev who refuses to answer the question.

 Ohhh .. uugg .. . ...why do I even bother... It's been explained before. Evan is not available to answer trolls, nor waste his time continuously explaining the same old stuff over and over. But for the sake of those people reading a new, and trying to make sense of this lunatic infected thread, here goes.

 I'll do my best, in a nutshell, ALL info can be found, or asked, over at www.dashtalk.org

 At the time of writing... there were 2 phone wallets being developed. One for iOS and another for Android. Both projects intended on including IX, which in turn need the 2nd tier Masternode quorum systems implemented.

 By introdroducing MN blinding at the time, it would radically change the way these coders for these wallets would need to address this issue. Remember both of these are SPV clients, not full nodes, so it's an entire new world of hurt just to implement IX on an SPV client. SO it was postponed as having mobiles wallets seemed way more important, for obvious reasons.

 But, after that time of writing, Evan found solution and new ideas to "problems", and quite frankly, Masternode IP obfuscation is not a priority. It's not a imminent security problem for anyone, it's just a fancy way so no-one know where the servers actually are. IF you're that paranoid, the Core is TOR ready, go for it.

 And no, neither wallet actually managed to implement IX, FYI. It seems to be quite tricky business without a full client, as far as I know.

 More important things needed to be done, and they were done, and the blinding was postponed. And now, with Evolution maybe not even wanted, Idk, I'm not a coder.

 So I hope this answers your question and you go on into looking for new reasons to pick on Dash and Evan as the good socket-troll you are.
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Where's the problem? I'm just asking why masternode blinding hasn't been implemented by your lying scam dev who refuses to answer the question.

 Ohhh .. uugg .. . ...why do I even bother... It's been explained before. Evan is not available to answer trolls, nor waste his time continuously explaining the same old stuff over and over. But for the sake of those people reading a new, and trying to make sense of this lunatic infected thread, here goes.

 I'll do my best, in a nutshell, ALL info can be found, or asked, over at www.dashtalk.org

 At the time of writing... there were 2 phone wallets being developed. One for iOS and another for Android. Both projects intended on including IX, which in turn need the 2nd tier Masternode quorum systems implemented.

 By introdroducing MN blinding at the time, it would radically change the way these coders for these wallets would need to address this issue. Remember both of these are SPV clients, not full nodes, so it's an entire new world of hurt just to implement IX on an SPV client. SO it was postponed as having a mobiles wallets seemed more important at the time.

 But, after that time of writing, Evan found solution and new ideas to "problems", and quite frankly, Masternode IP obfuscation is not a priority. It's not a imminent security problem for anyone, it's just a fancy way so no-one know where the servers actually are.

 More important things needed to be done, and they were done, and the blinding was postponed. And now, with Evolution maybe not even wanted, Idk, I'm not a coder.

 So I hope this answers your question and you go on into looking for new reasons to pick on Dash and Evan as the good socket-troll you are.


As usual, it doesn't answer anything. The mobile wallets have long since been developed, and the masternode blinding was confirmed by your lying dev to be working already. So why isn't it being implemented now since EVOLUSCAM will only be ready in 5 years?
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December 06, 2015, 05:51:31 PM

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Are you concerned? I think we, who are invested should be concerned.
What's your problem? Your comedy is getting boring.


Where's the problem? I'm just asking why masternode blinding hasn't been implemented by your lying instamine scamming dev who refuses to answer the question.

So in one sentence you want answers to your questions from the DASH lead dev and also call him a 'lying instamine scamming dev'. Nice!

This behaviour stems from a severe case of XMR-bagholditis.

Poor old Adam.


Whatever you say Evan. Keep trying to distract away from all of your lies and failures with offtopic comments. You're a proven instaminer and you've been caught lying countless times, most recently about the supposed Evolution Demo in Miami, which you've now pushed back 1 year. You knew that would never happen.  The statement is accurate.

I don't care where the answers come from. You keep ignoring masternode blinding and Ghostplayer has nothing but fluff to offer. So who can answer why the "working" masternode blinding hasn't been implemented?
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December 06, 2015, 05:55:12 PM

As far as I can tell its by using deterministic wallets so you use a relatively easy to recall key to generate the private key rather than the private key directly. Could be anything, a passage from a book or line from a song

That is exactly how you'll lose your coins.  Don't choose any phrase that already exists.

https://masternode.me/smart_passwords.html


Very true, I'd used it as an example rather than the usual "horse battery stapler" one and added the bit about methods of creating secure seeds as I was reading something on it recently and was surprised how far things have come since "horse battery stapler" was doing the rounds, impressive stuff but I can't find a link to it :/ That post didn't even touch on the other stuff deterministic wallets offer but turning all that into something that just works automagically for the user is the important bit.

I discovered bip32 ( https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0032.mediawiki#master-key-generation )  and pycoin ( https://github.com/richardkiss/pycoin ) from richard Kiss' blog ( http://blog.richardkiss.com/?p=313 ) and wrote this intro walkthrough for curious/intermediate-advanced users: http://en.wiki.dashninja.pl/wiki/DIY_Deterministic_Addresses

I secure most of my coins using this method. And, if you learn how the chains/seeds work, a lot more options for securely managing coins open up.

For instance, each masternode.me masternode has a payment address deterministically derived (after some math) from the submitted masternode address. But, because only the public bip32 seed lives on the server I don't need to be concerned about the funds if the server is compromised. Managing the service funds now only requires the masternode's address and my secret passphrase. One more thing I don't have to keep track of. Smiley

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 I love trolls, seriously. I've never hidden that fact. They're great for post count and sub-forum bumping. It one of the best marketing tools we have, as more often than not, people with sense and sensibility will see right through it, and these are the people that actually matter. Not 15 year olds.

 Yes, it did certainly answer the question. Read over it again.

 It isn't being implemented because there are more important things to do that to waste time coding unnecessary things. Blinding was something being asked for by some few community members. Evan was pondering developing I2P but never got to it, or changed his mind about it. So what? Where is the big deal here?

 Priorities change. We have TOR in Core. Why do you care to pick on such an insignificant thing and blow it out of proportion like some grand earth shattering thing?

 It's something a few pro-darknet guys, law-enforcement-worried guys lobbied for, some worried about concerted DDOS attacks ... and Evan said, "sure, I could do that" - But since then it became totally de-prioritized.

 Deal with it. though you're perfectly welcomed to use the TOR integration within the code.
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 I love trolls, seriously. I've never hidden that fact. They're great for post count and sub-forum bumping. It one of the best marketing tools we have, as more often than not, people with sense and sensibility will see right through it, and these are the people that actually matter. Not 15 year olds.

 Yes, it did certainly answer the question. Read over it again.

 It isn't being implemented because there are more important things to do that to waste time coding unnecessary things. Blinding was something being asked for by some few community members. Evan was pondering developing I2P but never got to it, or changed his mind about it. So what? Where is the big deal here?

 Priorities change. We have TOR in Core. Why do you care to pick on such an insignificant thing and blow it out of proportion like some grand earth shattering thing?

 It's something a few pro-darknet guys, law-enforcement-worried guys lobbied for, some worried about concerted DDOS attacks ... and Evan said, "sure, I could do that" - But since then it became totally de-prioritized.

 Deal with it. though you're perfectly welcomed to use the TOR integration within the code.


I know you answered for interested and sane people but I am drklvr and ask again: But why? you didn't answer my question

edit: man, this is ridiculous. Time to ignore it and not click on that damn 'show' when I'm bored  Cheesy

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December 06, 2015, 06:11:03 PM

Great work Dash team, amazing how this coin keeps delivering new things all the time.

Haters gonna hate since they have a dead ANN thread with nothing new coming out from their low grade developers
"cry*p*to about it into forum type of developers". Go create a new website since that's all u've been doing since copying of Bytecoin 2 years ago!

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December 06, 2015, 06:19:49 PM

Great work Dash team, amazing how this coin keeps delivering new things all the time.

Haters gonna hate since they have a dead ANN thread with nothing new coming out from their low grade developers
"cry*p*to about it into forum type of developers". Go create a new website since that's all u've been doing since copying of Bytecoin 2 years ago!

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Hey. They just wanted to reinvent the wheel.
They don't understand a network effect and that exploring ideas and what you can do with bitcoin protocol would be a better choice.
Lesson not yet learned. They don't move anywhere.

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Is there a (properly moderated) technical discussion forum where we can contribute opinions on the new roadmap stuff ?


Don't know if anyone answered, but right now they're talking here: https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-evolution-discussion-thread.7231/#post-75841

But I'm pretty sure there will eventually be, possibly, a few threads that will focus on specific areas.  I definitely would like to see you in the discussions (I don't remember if I've seen you at Dashtalk.org yet?)  If not, it may be time to make an account Cheesy  We need you!  Sometimes when I try to understand the hints given, I worry if it passes the Toknormal test Wink

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Uh huh, keep trying to spin your massive disappointment Cheesy

What happened to the Evolution demo Evan promised in Miami? Pushing it back 1 year sounds good to you?

Yeah so disappointing to hear all this DASH news. Such a terrible shame to see all these whitepapers and devs hard at work. So depressing to see my masternodes making coins every day.

Meanwhile, what joy to listen to Adam White's incisive commentary. The boy is a legend. Go Adam. Go XMR!


Where do people get the idea that things are being "pushed back a year"?  Evolution will roll out in stages.  I don't know what stage was a year from now, but the DAPI should be in place for testnet by the Miami conference.

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Uh huh, keep trying to spin your massive disappointment Cheesy

What happened to the Evolution demo Evan promised in Miami? Pushing it back 1 year sounds good to you?

Yeah so disappointing to hear all this DASH news. Such a terrible shame to see all these whitepapers and devs hard at work. So depressing to see my masternodes making coins every day.

Meanwhile, what joy to listen to Adam White's incisive commentary. The boy is a legend. Go Adam. Go XMR!


Where do people get the idea that things are being "pushed back a year"?  Evolution will roll out in stages.  I don't know what stage was a year from now, but the DAPI should be in place for testnet by the Miami conference.

Adam will jump on any old thing he can find to discredit DASH, no matter how incredulous or ridiculous.

His MO is so painfully, transparently obvious that he is now the number one laughing stock of this thread (closely followed by LiceShaker).

I'm sorry, I'm so far behind, and I keep forgetting!  I have to resist posting before I've read everything better Tongue

We will be writing the software for this project in stages, the first stage will take about 2 months to have a very early prototype for Dash Evolution that includes a basic implementation of DashDrive, Primitives, DAPI and a simple T3 wallet. In six to eight months, we should be entering testnet phase with most basic functionality. In 12-18 months, we plan for the first release version (a stable prototype).

Keep in mind, we're going to start revising the design tomorrow to try and figure out the best possible design to create. I think I've found a way to simplify this project by about 75%, which means we can have something much sooner. I'll start working on a proposal.

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Uh huh, keep trying to spin your massive disappointment Cheesy

What happened to the Evolution demo Evan promised in Miami? Pushing it back 1 year sounds good to you?

Yeah so disappointing to hear all this DASH news. Such a terrible shame to see all these whitepapers and devs hard at work. So depressing to see my masternodes making coins every day.

Meanwhile, what joy to listen to Adam White's incisive commentary. The boy is a legend. Go Adam. Go XMR!


Where do people get the idea that things are being "pushed back a year"?  Evolution will roll out in stages.  I don't know what stage was a year from now, but the DAPI should be in place for testnet by the Miami conference.
Yes, this correct. It would be ludicrous to go to the North American Bitcoin Conference two months after the unveiling empty-handed. Trolls just like to over-dramaticize everything.

The papers and what's being planned temporarily made me speechless (and for me that's saying a lot).  Grin

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Uh huh, keep trying to spin your massive disappointment Cheesy

What happened to the Evolution demo Evan promised in Miami? Pushing it back 1 year sounds good to you?

Yeah so disappointing to hear all this DASH news. Such a terrible shame to see all these whitepapers and devs hard at work. So depressing to see my masternodes making coins every day.

Meanwhile, what joy to listen to Adam White's incisive commentary. The boy is a legend. Go Adam. Go XMR!


Where do people get the idea that things are being "pushed back a year"?  Evolution will roll out in stages.  I don't know what stage was a year from now, but the DAPI should be in place for testnet by the Miami conference.

Adam will jump on any old thing he can find to discredit DASH, no matter how incredulous or ridiculous.

His MO is so painfully, transparently obvious that he is now the number one laughing stock of this thread (closely followed by LiceShaker).



Meanwhile, still no one knows what happened to masternode blinding  Cheesy

You will post all manner of insults and accusations, but still nothing about the supposedly working Masternode blinding. Seems like a pretty simple question to answer

Not eduffield/reaktion, not GhostPlayer.. no one knows

Instead, DASH is stuck with 20+ hours of mixing for the next 5 years to send a simple anon tx  Cheesy

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Masternode blinding is working   Grin

It's super fast, secure and should reduce mixing time by 80%+

https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/commits/masternode-blinding



There is NO issue with Darksend, in fact the new masternode blinding system is quite impressive.


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- DS Speed Improvements : Darksend should be lightning fast now on mainnet. We're going to delay the implementation of masternode blinding because there's two separate mobile wallets that are in the process of implementing Darksend and the reference implementation needs to be super stable during this period of time. Once we have the mobile wallets done (which should have Darksend and InstantX support) we can move back to improving Darksend.



 
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Is DASH more anonymous than bytecoin or other cryptonote coins?
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Is DASH more anonymous than bytecoin or other cryptonote coins?


define 'more anonymous'


sounds like a pretty simple question Evan. you're only trying to complicate matters since the answer is 'No.'

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Is DASH more anonymous than bytecoin or other cryptonote coins?

Dash takes more effort.  You have to choose to be anonymous, by mixing.  Mixing takes time but it's done while your wallet is idle (just leave it on to mix when you're not using it)  If you do at least 3 rounds of mixing, you'll be unbreakable.  But nothing is 100%.  They've done calculations on how hard it would be to break the anonymity by having malicious Masternodes, and to have any chance at breaking an 8 round mixed amount, with 90% control of all masternodes, they would still only have less that 1% chance of deanonymizing an amount.

Still, Dash does the job, without bloating the blockchain and offers so much more than privacy now.  If you need to really hide information, I suggest using several coins.  But if you want to store your wealth, honestly, I would stay away from anything that smells of trolling and scamming.  If you honestly think Dash smells of those two things, I would suggest you not trust your senses and stay away from crypto all together (or stick with Bitcoin, as that's pretty safe).

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Chris is popular on Twitter, and today he indicated his interest in the Dash project, specifically a DashPi Project.

Good luck to Chris, and let's welcome him to Dash!

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/673586490371371008

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DASH mixing takes a very long time Sad






Months before, Evan had made a big deal out of Masternode blinding


Masternode blinding is working   Grin

It's super fast, secure and should reduce mixing time by 80%+

https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/commits/masternode-blinding



There is NO issue with Darksend, in fact the new masternode blinding system is quite impressive.

...

Wow so if we use the reduction of 80% then it originally took 100 hours to mix dash using dark send?

Either that or Evan spoke too soon because his behind the scenes developer wasnt done yet or...


Evan straight up lied.

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December 06, 2015, 08:28:02 PM

Is DASH more anonymous than bytecoin or other cryptonote coins?


define 'more anonymous'


sounds like a pretty simple question Evan. you're only trying to complicate matters since the answer is 'No.'

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The complexity of a question is subjective. Adam here has interpreted a reasonably complex question to be simple, due to his own simplicity, rather than that of the subject matter.


OK Evan. Thanks for confirming Bytecoin/CryptoNote is more anonymous than DASH. it's also instant anonymity and privacy instead of waiting 20+ hours to mix your coins with DASH
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Wow so if we use the reduction of 80% then it originally took 100 hours to mix dash using dark send?

Either that or Evan spoke too soon because he behind the scenes developer wasnt done yet or...


Evan straight up lied.

Keep grabbing straws smoothie. Then you can serve smoothies to all your shit-drinking buddies.

Oh hai newbie account whose first post was in DARKCOIN thread....

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