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Thank Joel....great article. It encapsulates everything I've thought...and the reason why I've backed DASH this whole time. OG crypto ecosystem just doesn't get it. That is why Bitcoin adoption has stopped growing and is in fact shrinking. It is why all these other "crypto" projects wont succeed either. They are built and run by fringe members of society like cyber punks and crypto anarchists that don't value the rest of society. And thus will always fail in mass adoption because they can't relate. It would be sad if dash gave up on anonymity and would allow mass surveilance on its users. But that is what it has to do if it wants to get positive reviews from the western fake news media in the future. However we already have such a coin its called "Ripple" thus theres no need for another one. There are plenty coins with transparent blockchain, mainly bitcoin clones that get absolutely no attention at all. Dash would not privacy would be Dash without fungibility, I am sure no one in the community can seriously consider that as a viable option. Have I missed anything important or what is this discussion about? DASH isn't considering giving up on anonymity, is it? That is an old thread you are quoting, and if you read the initial post and the replies that followed carefully then you know this is not about a consideration on giving up on anonymity. It's about an opinion raised in the first post that Dash will never get any real love from the Bitcoin community even if there was no instamine, or even if Dash did not develop the anonymity / privacy part. The first post goes into the why of that opinion (providing social and cultural reasons). Personally I believe Dash perception and image has been improved this year, after it kept integrating, expanding and following through on its long road towards Dash Evolution and thereby making Dash both more easy to use and more easy to obtain. I guess we changed from the black sheep of the crypto scene to the somewhat more greyish sheep of the crypto scene  Do you really think DASH has ever been the black sheep of the scene? I mean there have been massive scams out there and DASH can neither count into that category nor be a category of its own in that regard. What i do know is that Dash for a time was under constant attacks by trolls, had (and still has) difficulty getting any references (positive or negative) on Coindesk and was constantly hammered on its instamine history. This by itself could give people the impression that Dash was viewed as the black sheep of the market. That impression does not necessarily mean it should be viewed as fact, and the article that started this all was an opinion article so far i can tell. Personally i rather view Dash as a crypto project in an underdog position (especially in the early years) fighting for regnonition of its achievements, rather then viewing it as a black sheep. True although the instamine story wasn't wrong was it? Then again you could argue that the distribution of most of the coins is questionable. No, the instamine story was not wrong. Trolls just tried really hard to falsely tie it all to a premine and a scam. Also a lot of other crypto projects had questionable distribution / startup problems. instamine = mining instantly after launch to grab tremendous amount of coins by the founder and his friends to be later on placed as collateral to dictate the future of dash. yup the instamine story was not wrong  Yes, the problem is that also master nodes are involved so there is an issue with a perhaps unfair distribution in the beginning. they wanted it, here is a statement on the instamine by one of the foundation member/insider of dash team....it was meant to be unfair since day 1, they didn't admit it at first  instamine was brilliant. In fact...its now my belief that any successful coin must either premine or instamine to actually fuel a full dev team and a full blown project. We are creating a system to compete with fiat...not a crypto nerd token. Gone are the days when Bitcoin started when no one really knew what or where this was all going.
To create a system that will compete with any real money system will take 10's of millions of dollars in development and foundation building. It will take millions of dollars to actually fuel properly. You don't attempt what DASH is trying to do with childish dice games on shady gambling sites, donations or what ever charity one can cook up.
Instamined or Ninja Mined and even Premined...is a must.
https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OC/pages/19759164/Dash+Instamine+Issue+ClarificationFacts about the instamine 1. There was no pre-mine in Dash 2. ~1.86MM first 24h, ~2.02MM first 48h according to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/#@inflation3. That represents approximately 10-15% of the total money supply that will ever be issued 4. This coin issue rate exceeded the published emission schedule by a wide margin looking at number 3, that amount of coins in masternodes, how many coins those (~1.86MM first 24h, ~2.02MM first 48h) earned through 2019?? that's the new golden question. ...and you just forget part when Evan found error and wanted to start all from zero ( come on, your acc is old enough )... So don't hide that part, it is here early pages. And part when he offered bounty for someone make Windows miner ( as he know Linux only )... And also part later when he was buying much Dash ( that was public too )... Add that to your numbers so we can see be productive, not malign... sry Sellman  |
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June 16, 2019, 06:04:19 AM
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If trolls only have the instamine history from 5 years ago left these days to attack Dash with, then Dash has really nothing to worry about. Strength of Dash : Strong network of full nodes (4700+) which are online 24H/7D, also known as masternodes Strong mining hashpower to secure the network (3.779P, which is an ATH currently) Strong community, which is often mentioned when Dash gets integrated (which has been happening a lot during the bear market and continues to happen a lot these days) Strong protection against 51% attacks through ChainLocks, which should be active within a week or so InstantSend technology that allows Dash to send and confirm transactions within a few seconds, have those locked against double spending and instantly spendable (this last part will be more available once spork 20 activates) Decentralized budget and governance system, which allows Dash to fund its developers and its community-driven projects Relatively small circulating supply of Dash (8,8 Million Dash - Masternodes combined collateral of 4,7 Milion Dash = 4,1 Million Dash) Clear roadmap towards Dash Evolution ( https://www.dash.org/roadmap/), which will bring more user-friendly wallets, better on-chain scalability and advanced features* * Ability to store metadata on Dash full nodes (masternodes) through DashDrive, using a decentralized API (DAPI), using blockchain usernames instead of long Dash addresses, using decentralized apps that can hook into the network directly (Dapps). To summarize and to conclude :  |
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June 16, 2019, 07:56:28 AM |
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Whenever trollers appear and actively do their works, it is beginning of new growth because trollers tend to appear when price falls too closely to its bottom. I meant, whenever trollers actively troll, we should hold our coins tightly because main purpose of trollers is forcing weak hands to shake out. Be determinantly and strongly hold our coins with free earky signals of growth from trollers, whom fear of missing out. Are there chances to see DASH drops to 0.01 BTC? I believe No.
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Today tried to use my Keepkey to send some dash and received the following error "Encountered invalid prevhash”
I've contacted support but no response yet. Running OSX Mojave, Keepkey firmware 6.1, KeepKey Client 6.1.0.5
Any amount doesn't seem to work but after trying dozens of times I finally got a 5 Dash transaction to go, unable to repeat that though. Tried various address, can't seem to get the coins off there.
Thoughts? Did the normal stuff, uninstall, reinstall, update firmware, reboot, VPN on vs Off...
This looks similar to your problem, see last post for possible fix https://github.com/Bertrand256/dash-masternode-tool/issues/29Also check the issue that Bertrand has with KeepKey : https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/gui-tool-for-running-masternode-with-trezor.13748/page-12#post-212658He is preparing a test version to see if that fixes things, maybe you can test that test version to see if that fixes your own problem. All of this is me assuming you are using Dash Masternode Tool to get transactions out... if you are not currently using Dash Masternode Tool, then maybe you can give that a try as it also support normal KeepKey wallet activities (DMT is not just for masternodes). |
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June 16, 2019, 01:24:09 PM
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Thank Joel....great article. It encapsulates everything I've thought...and the reason why I've backed DASH this whole time. OG crypto ecosystem just doesn't get it. That is why Bitcoin adoption has stopped growing and is in fact shrinking. It is why all these other "crypto" projects wont succeed either. They are built and run by fringe members of society like cyber punks and crypto anarchists that don't value the rest of society. And thus will always fail in mass adoption because they can't relate. It would be sad if dash gave up on anonymity and would allow mass surveilance on its users. But that is what it has to do if it wants to get positive reviews from the western fake news media in the future. However we already have such a coin its called "Ripple" thus theres no need for another one. There are plenty coins with transparent blockchain, mainly bitcoin clones that get absolutely no attention at all. Dash would not privacy would be Dash without fungibility, I am sure no one in the community can seriously consider that as a viable option. Have I missed anything important or what is this discussion about? DASH isn't considering giving up on anonymity, is it? That is an old thread you are quoting, and if you read the initial post and the replies that followed carefully then you know this is not about a consideration on giving up on anonymity. It's about an opinion raised in the first post that Dash will never get any real love from the Bitcoin community even if there was no instamine, or even if Dash did not develop the anonymity / privacy part. The first post goes into the why of that opinion (providing social and cultural reasons). Personally I believe Dash perception and image has been improved this year, after it kept integrating, expanding and following through on its long road towards Dash Evolution and thereby making Dash both more easy to use and more easy to obtain. I guess we changed from the black sheep of the crypto scene to the somewhat more greyish sheep of the crypto scene Do you really think DASH has ever been the black sheep of the scene? I mean there have been massive scams out there and DASH can neither count into that category nor be a category of its own in that regard. What i do know is that Dash for a time was under constant attacks by trolls, had (and still has) difficulty getting any references (positive or negative) on Coindesk and was constantly hammered on its instamine history. This by itself could give people the impression that Dash was viewed as the black sheep of the market. That impression does not necessarily mean it should be viewed as fact, and the article that started this all was an opinion article so far i can tell. Personally i rather view Dash as a crypto project in an underdog position (especially in the early years) fighting for regnonition of its achievements, rather then viewing it as a black sheep. True although the instamine story wasn't wrong was it? Then again you could argue that the distribution of most of the coins is questionable. No, the instamine story was not wrong. Trolls just tried really hard to falsely tie it all to a premine and a scam. Also a lot of other crypto projects had questionable distribution / startup problems. instamine = mining instantly after launch to grab tremendous amount of coins by the founder and his friends to be later on placed as collateral to dictate the future of dash. yup the instamine story was not wrong Yes, the problem is that also master nodes are involved so there is an issue with a perhaps unfair distribution in the beginning. they wanted it, here is a statement on the instamine by one of the foundation member/insider of dash team....it was meant to be unfair since day 1, they didn't admit it at first instamine was brilliant. In fact...its now my belief that any successful coin must either premine or instamine to actually fuel a full dev team and a full blown project. We are creating a system to compete with fiat...not a crypto nerd token. Gone are the days when Bitcoin started when no one really knew what or where this was all going.
To create a system that will compete with any real money system will take 10's of millions of dollars in development and foundation building. It will take millions of dollars to actually fuel properly. You don't attempt what DASH is trying to do with childish dice games on shady gambling sites, donations or what ever charity one can cook up.
Instamined or Ninja Mined and even Premined...is a must.
https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OC/pages/19759164/Dash+Instamine+Issue+ClarificationFacts about the instamine 1. There was no pre-mine in Dash 2. ~1.86MM first 24h, ~2.02MM first 48h according to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/#@inflation3. That represents approximately 10-15% of the total money supply that will ever be issued 4. This coin issue rate exceeded the published emission schedule by a wide margin looking at number 3, that amount of coins in masternodes, how many coins those (~1.86MM first 24h, ~2.02MM first 48h) earned through 2019?? that's the new golden question. ...and you just forget part when Evan found error and wanted to start all from zero ( come on, your acc is old enough )... So don't hide that part, it is here early pages. And part when he offered bounty for someone make Windows miner ( as he know Linux only )... And also part later when he was buying much Dash ( that was public too )... Add that to your numbers so we can see be productive, not malign... sry Sellman so you are implying the founder is mining in his computer? just like anyone? and buying because he owns little hehe--you buying that shit?...yeah you bought and you support because you are in the club... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282836.msg13200467#msg13200467, your sugar coat is not thick enough  how many is he and his friends are running this kind of shit during the first 24-48 hours (instamine phase)?? ---snip---
How to launch EC2 instances to mine Darkcoin
I made an EC2-AMI with roughly my settings for mining DarkCoin. This is the cheapest and easiest way I've found to mine, and it's pretty easy. Here's a short walkthrough of how to get up and running:
1.) Open an EC2 account
2.) Go to aws.amazon.com, click EC2, then "Spot Requests", click "Request Spot Instance"
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windows/linux miner argument is irrelevant buddy. he wanted to start again but did not and he also lied about the launch time hehe actions indeed speak louder than voice  |
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Why “Facebook Coin” Is Needed in the Cryptospace Everyone’s talking about Facebook’s foray into cryptocurrency, and what it could mean for the rest of the space. Is it another failed hype project that will soon be forgotten? Is it the deathblow to the nascent industry as a major player “eats their lunch” with ease? Is it the first part of this mythical mass adoption? Or is it good for the space because it challenges us to deliver on promises we implicitly have made since the beginning? |
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June 16, 2019, 08:29:57 PM |
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Why “Facebook Coin” Is Needed in the Cryptospace Everyone’s talking about Facebook’s foray into cryptocurrency, and what it could mean for the rest of the space. Is it another failed hype project that will soon be forgotten? Is it the deathblow to the nascent industry as a major player “eats their lunch” with ease? Is it the first part of this mythical mass adoption? Or is it good for the space because it challenges us to deliver on promises we implicitly have made since the beginning?The problem is all the data they can collect about their users. Payments in the hands of one company like Facebook is frightening. Whatever, nobody can stop them from doing it anyway. |
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June 16, 2019, 09:23:40 PM |
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Today tried to use my Keepkey to send some dash and received the following error "Encountered invalid prevhash”
I've contacted support but no response yet. Running OSX Mojave, Keepkey firmware 6.1, KeepKey Client 6.1.0.5
Any amount doesn't seem to work but after trying dozens of times I finally got a 5 Dash transaction to go, unable to repeat that though. Tried various address, can't seem to get the coins off there.
Thoughts? Did the normal stuff, uninstall, reinstall, update firmware, reboot, VPN on vs Off...
This looks similar to your problem, see last post for possible fix https://github.com/Bertrand256/dash-masternode-tool/issues/29Also check the issue that Bertrand has with KeepKey : https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/gui-tool-for-running-masternode-with-trezor.13748/page-12#post-212658He is preparing a test version to see if that fixes things, maybe you can test that test version to see if that fixes your own problem. All of this is me assuming you are using Dash Masternode Tool to get transactions out... if you are not currently using Dash Masternode Tool, then maybe you can give that a try as it also support normal KeepKey wallet activities (DMT is not just for masternodes). Not currently using DMT, just using the keepkey to store a bit of Dash and it also receives my MN payments. Keepkey support emailed back asking me to downgrade my keepkey to previous version which I'll try next. |
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June 17, 2019, 06:06:49 AM |
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Crush The Street :DEFINING SOUND MONEY WITH BITCOIN: Joel Valenzuela’s Expert Analysis Of The Cryptocurrency Sector https://youtu.be/3MqVd1QN22U
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June 17, 2019, 12:57:55 PM |
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Dash Wallet Expands Payment Options with Apple Watch Integration The Dash wallet is now available for the Apple Watch series 4 and OS5 advancing cryptocurrency spending and acceptance on-the-go. |
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NibiruHybrid
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June 17, 2019, 07:28:14 PM |
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Zcoin to Copy Dash’s ChainLocks 51% Attack-Proofing Zcoin has announced plans to implement long-living masternode quorums (LLMQs), deterministic masternode lists, and ChainLocks, three of Dash’s key innovations released this year. |
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June 18, 2019, 09:29:48 AM |
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Where to fly further 0.015 btc? And then remove from the exchanges? What a pity I spent btc on dash!!!
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solowhizkid
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June 18, 2019, 01:25:20 PM |
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NibiruHybrid
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June 18, 2019, 01:28:02 PM |
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Dash Latam Tracker In Alpha Release and Shows over 1,000 Real Dash Transactions in the Past Month The DashRetail-powered tracker funded by the Dash DAO Treasury is showing significant adoption statistics in merchants that are currently using their POS services. |
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NibiruHybrid
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June 18, 2019, 05:04:35 PM |
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Collaborate Banking App and Debit Card 2gether Adds Dash 2gether, a collaborative banking app and cryptocurrency debit card solution, has added Dash to the platform. |
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NibiruHybrid
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June 19, 2019, 01:20:33 PM |
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Facebook's Libra Already Has Government Officials Nervous, but History Shows a High Risk of Failure Facebook’s Libra was officially revealed the other day and government officials have already announced that they want Facebook’s venture into cryptocurrency investigated, regulated, or a little bit of both, but its potential success does not have historical precedent. |
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